these people are DUMB

[Olde Europe]

They are doing nothing more than pandering to their base. Same as impeachment and their radical agenda.
Just like what they say trump does

You know, Harley, there's the buzz word "radical" flying around, that usually serves to cut off thinking beyond the thinker's nose.

When, actually, there is nothing remotely radical about making the promise of One (wo)man, one vote, a reality. Neither is there anything radical about placing the executive, the president and his high-level henchmen in particular, firmly under the law, making the promise of A country governed by laws, not men, a reality.

But then, declaring folks who would kick-start a debate about these very worthy issues "DUMB" without a solid argument demonstrating same, seemingly before even having taken the time and making the effort to think about it, is really dumb. Squared. I find, you are doing yourself a disservice here.

Oh, BTW, since you are gladly throwing the "pandering to the base" charge around: How about you take a second look at different ways and modes of pandering, like, whether or not the country would be better (or worse) off, in case the "pandering" proved to be successful. Finally, the claim that Democrats don't have the votes for impeachment is factually incorrect, which further demonstrates you rather seem to be not at the top of your game.

 

[OldLady]

Well, I was raised in conservative New York country. There are plenty of them. And they are as reasonable as anyone else. Those of you who think in nothing but meaningless stereotypes wouldn't know anything about reality.
Can't tell ya anything about California, but I'm guessing it is no different.

It's common knowledge OL. Look it up.

What is common knowledge? No, I'm not researching anything. You have something to prove, it's your move to bring it here.

That you dont know this fact is rather disturbing.
I hope you dont vote.

I can make statements pulled out of my ass, too, and then tell everyone who doesn't agree with me that they're ignorant. Doesn't make me right.

Care to answer my question ??

What question? I don't see that you posed one.

 

[OldLady]

They are doing nothing more than pandering to their base. Same as impeachment and their radical agenda.
Just like what they say trump does

You know, Harley, there's the buzz word "radical" flying around, that usually serves to cut off thinking beyond the thinker's nose.

When, actually, there is nothing remotely radical about making the promise of One (wo)man, one vote, a reality. Neither is there anything radical about placing the executive, the president and his high-level henchmen in particular, firmly under the law, making the promise of A country governed by laws, not men, a reality.

But then, declaring folks who would kick-start a debate about these very worthy issues "DUMB" without a solid argument demonstrating same, seemingly before even having taken the time and making the effort to think about it, is really dumb. Squared. I find, you are doing yourself a disservice here.

Oh, BTW, since you are gladly throwing the "pandering to the base" charge around: How about you take a second look at different ways and modes of pandering, like, whether or not the country would be better (or worse) off, in case the "pandering" proved to be successful. Finally, the claim that Democrats don't have the votes for impeachment is factually incorrect, which further demonstrates you rather seem to be not at the top of your game.

TN's a little rusty, but he always poses his arguments this way. 9/10ths of what he's thinking stays inside his head until page 2 or 3.

 

[beagle9]

So you want to give all the power to a couple of states?
While not the weirdest idea it sure is the stupidest.

I didn't actually say if I like the idea or not, but this argument that a couple of states would get all the power seems crazy to me. If the vote were simple majority, like everything else, it would be individual voters, not states, making the decisions. Do you think everyone in certain states votes the same way? Because a state is "red" or "blue" doesn't mean everyone feels that way. Just the majority of those who vote. Maybe if the individual's choice mattered more, more people would vote.
But I don't really care one way or the other. Until the parties start giving us better candidates, it doesn't really matter how the vote is counted.

California is !/3 illegals! Ewe want them to vote. That’s why you want open borders and to eliminate the EC.

Illegals aren't allowed to vote. Another stupid argument. Give me a good one.

Didn't we have a problem of thousands of SS numbers stolen or being used by illegals in the past ??

Link? That they were used for voting, not employment?

Really ????? So you are in denial of the alledged reports we had in the past concerning SS numbers being given to illegals either by employers or individuals so they could operate here under the radar as illegals for cheap labor etc ?? If they were able to secure through such SS numbers or identities stolen in order to be here illegally, then could they not take those identities and numbers and vote with them, and would they vote in favor of the party that keeps it all going ??? I'm just asking questions here.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

You'd be giving all the power to a couple of states and thats a fact.
Do you really want the people of Calipornia and New Dork deciding who runs our country?

Well, I was raised in conservative New York country. There are plenty of them. And they are as reasonable as anyone else. Those of you who think in nothing but meaningless stereotypes wouldn't know anything about reality.
Can't tell ya anything about California, but I'm guessing it is no different.

It's common knowledge OL. Look it up.

What is common knowledge? No, I'm not researching anything. You have something to prove, it's your move to bring it here.

That you dont know this fact is rather disturbing.
I hope you dont vote.

I can make statements pulled out of my ass, too, and then tell everyone who doesn't agree with me that they're ignorant. Doesn't make me right.

You are ignorant in this case.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The house doesnt have votes for their radical agenda, nor impeachment.
The electoral college process is in the 12th amendment. You cant just vote it away in congress you fucking morons!
Its funny because all trump does is "talk shit to get his base riled up" while they do the same thing!
Both sides need to chill out. Thats with their fear of the future and disingenuous outrage. STFU already!

I read that EC thing....and rolled my eyes.

 

[joaquinmiller]

Congress may propose amendments to the constitution. That's one you actually can look up.

 

[OldLady]

I didn't actually say if I like the idea or not, but this argument that a couple of states would get all the power seems crazy to me. If the vote were simple majority, like everything else, it would be individual voters, not states, making the decisions. Do you think everyone in certain states votes the same way? Because a state is "red" or "blue" doesn't mean everyone feels that way. Just the majority of those who vote. Maybe if the individual's choice mattered more, more people would vote.
But I don't really care one way or the other. Until the parties start giving us better candidates, it doesn't really matter how the vote is counted.

California is !/3 illegals! Ewe want them to vote. That’s why you want open borders and to eliminate the EC.

Illegals aren't allowed to vote. Another stupid argument. Give me a good one.

Didn't we have a problem of thousands of SS numbers stolen or being used by illegals in the past ??

Link? That they were used for voting, not employment?

Really ????? So you are in denial of the alledged reports we had in the past concerning SS numbers being given to illegals either by employers or individuals so they could operate here under the radar as illegals for cheap labor etc ?? If they were able to secure through such SS numbers or identities stolen in order to be here illegally, then could they not take those identities and numbers and vote with them, and would they vote in favor of the party that keeps it all going ??? I'm just asking questions here.

I'd just like some proof, please. There have been voter fraud investigations before, and I would just like to see where your accusations are shown to be true.

 

[OldLady]

Well, I was raised in conservative New York country. There are plenty of them. And they are as reasonable as anyone else. Those of you who think in nothing but meaningless stereotypes wouldn't know anything about reality.
Can't tell ya anything about California, but I'm guessing it is no different.

It's common knowledge OL. Look it up.

What is common knowledge? No, I'm not researching anything. You have something to prove, it's your move to bring it here.

That you dont know this fact is rather disturbing.
I hope you dont vote.

I can make statements pulled out of my ass, too, and then tell everyone who doesn't agree with me that they're ignorant. Doesn't make me right.

You are ignorant in this case.

I don't see you rushing to enlighten me, so I'll take that with a big grain of salt.

 

[jc456]

They really think the states are going to give up the EC

Probably they won't, but a lot of people would welcome it, I think, based on what I've heard here. It's not the weirdest idea in the world, TN.

So you want to give all the power to a couple of states?
While not the weirdest idea it sure is the stupidest.

I didn't actually say if I like the idea or not, but this argument that a couple of states would get all the power seems crazy to me. If the vote were simple majority, like everything else, it would be individual voters, not states, making the decisions. Do you think everyone in certain states votes the same way? Because a state is "red" or "blue" doesn't mean everyone feels that way. Just the majority of those who vote. Maybe if the individual's choice mattered more, more people would vote.
But I don't really care one way or the other. Until the parties start giving us better candidates, it doesn't really matter how the vote is counted.

wow, the stupid doesn't fall far from you eh?

 

[beagle9]

California is !/3 illegals! Ewe want them to vote. That’s why you want open borders and to eliminate the EC.

Illegals aren't allowed to vote. Another stupid argument. Give me a good one.

Didn't we have a problem of thousands of SS numbers stolen or being used by illegals in the past ??

Link? That they were used for voting, not employment?

Really ????? So you are in denial of the alledged reports we had in the past concerning SS numbers being given to illegals either by employers or individuals so they could operate here under the radar as illegals for cheap labor etc ?? If they were able to secure through such SS numbers or identities stolen in order to be here illegally, then could they not take those identities and numbers and vote with them, and would they vote in favor of the party that keeps it all going ??? I'm just asking questions here.

I'd just like some proof, please. There have been voter fraud investigations before, and I would just like to see where your accusations are shown to be true.

What accusations ?? Mine is a study, and then an assessment of the possibilities of the very way things could have actually been connected or done, even though the elites won't connect the dots for us because they may have been involved in it all.

 

[jc456]

They are doing nothing more than pandering to their base. Same as impeachment and their radical agenda.
Just like what they say trump does

You know, Harley, there's the buzz word "radical" flying around, that usually serves to cut off thinking beyond the thinker's nose.

When, actually, there is nothing remotely radical about making the promise of One (wo)man, one vote, a reality. Neither is there anything radical about placing the executive, the president and his high-level henchmen in particular, firmly under the law, making the promise of A country governed by laws, not men, a reality.

But then, declaring folks who would kick-start a debate about these very worthy issues "DUMB" without a solid argument demonstrating same, seemingly before even having taken the time and making the effort to think about it, is really dumb. Squared. I find, you are doing yourself a disservice here.

Oh, BTW, since you are gladly throwing the "pandering to the base" charge around: How about you take a second look at different ways and modes of pandering, like, whether or not the country would be better (or worse) off, in case the "pandering" proved to be successful. Finally, the claim that Democrats don't have the votes for impeachment is factually incorrect, which further demonstrates you rather seem to be not at the top of your game.

except for the fact of why the EC was created. perhaps you should read.

 

[joaquinmiller]

Congressman Chris Collins (R-Bail Bond) proposed a constitutional amendment in 2016 to end recess appointments. People lined up all over the country to call him dumb.

 

[jc456]

Illegals aren't allowed to vote. Another stupid argument. Give me a good one.

Didn't we have a problem of thousands of SS numbers stolen or being used by illegals in the past ??

Link? That they were used for voting, not employment?

Really ????? So you are in denial of the alledged reports we had in the past concerning SS numbers being given to illegals either by employers or individuals so they could operate here under the radar as illegals for cheap labor etc ?? If they were able to secure through such SS numbers or identities stolen in order to be here illegally, then could they not take those identities and numbers and vote with them, and would they vote in favor of the party that keeps it all going ??? I'm just asking questions here.

I'd just like some proof, please. There have been voter fraud investigations before, and I would just like to see where your accusations are shown to be true.

What accusations ?? Mine is a study, and then an assessment of the possibilities of the very way things could have actually been connected or done, even though the elites won't connect the dots for us because they may have been involved in it all.

she wants someone to wipe her ass for her.

 

[joaquinmiller]

Illegals aren't allowed to vote. Another stupid argument. Give me a good one.

Didn't we have a problem of thousands of SS numbers stolen or being used by illegals in the past ??

Link? That they were used for voting, not employment?

Really ????? So you are in denial of the alledged reports we had in the past concerning SS numbers being given to illegals either by employers or individuals so they could operate here under the radar as illegals for cheap labor etc ?? If they were able to secure through such SS numbers or identities stolen in order to be here illegally, then could they not take those identities and numbers and vote with them, and would they vote in favor of the party that keeps it all going ??? I'm just asking questions here.

I'd just like some proof, please. There have been voter fraud investigations before, and I would just like to see where your accusations are shown to be true.

What accusations ?? Mine is a study, and then an assessment of the possibilities of the very way things could have actually been connected or done, even though the elites won't connect the dots for us because they may have been involved in it all.

Well, yeah, it's hard to accuse someone of 'what if'.

 

[jknowgood]

They really think the states are going to give up the EC

Probably they won't, but a lot of people would welcome it, I think, based on what I've heard here. It's not the weirdest idea in the world, TN.

So you want to give all the power to a couple of states?
While not the weirdest idea it sure is the stupidest.

I know then the entire United State can be the shit hole called California.

 

[joaquinmiller]

Didn't we have a problem of thousands of SS numbers stolen or being used by illegals in the past ??

Link? That they were used for voting, not employment?

Really ????? So you are in denial of the alledged reports we had in the past concerning SS numbers being given to illegals either by employers or individuals so they could operate here under the radar as illegals for cheap labor etc ?? If they were able to secure through such SS numbers or identities stolen in order to be here illegally, then could they not take those identities and numbers and vote with them, and would they vote in favor of the party that keeps it all going ??? I'm just asking questions here.

I'd just like some proof, please. There have been voter fraud investigations before, and I would just like to see where your accusations are shown to be true.

What accusations ?? Mine is a study, and then an assessment of the possibilities of the very way things could have actually been connected or done, even though the elites won't connect the dots for us because they may have been involved in it all.

she wants someone to wipe her ass for her.

She wants someone to show evidence of what they claim is common knowledge. How hard can that be?

 

[OldLady]

Illegals aren't allowed to vote. Another stupid argument. Give me a good one.

Didn't we have a problem of thousands of SS numbers stolen or being used by illegals in the past ??

Link? That they were used for voting, not employment?

Really ????? So you are in denial of the alledged reports we had in the past concerning SS numbers being given to illegals either by employers or individuals so they could operate here under the radar as illegals for cheap labor etc ?? If they were able to secure through such SS numbers or identities stolen in order to be here illegally, then could they not take those identities and numbers and vote with them, and would they vote in favor of the party that keeps it all going ??? I'm just asking questions here.

I'd just like some proof, please. There have been voter fraud investigations before, and I would just like to see where your accusations are shown to be true.

What accusations ?? Mine is a study, and then an assessment of the possibilities of the very way things could have actually been connected or done, even though the elites won't connect the dots for us because they may have been involved in it all.

"assessment of the possibilities of the very way things could have actually been done" is a fancy way of saying you used your imagination. You have no proof because there was no evidence of it after being investigated, because IT DOES NOT HAPPEN THAT WAY. There could be a few. There are not thousands or "millions" as Trump would have it.

 

[beagle9]

Didn't we have a problem of thousands of SS numbers stolen or being used by illegals in the past ??

Link? That they were used for voting, not employment?

Really ????? So you are in denial of the alledged reports we had in the past concerning SS numbers being given to illegals either by employers or individuals so they could operate here under the radar as illegals for cheap labor etc ?? If they were able to secure through such SS numbers or identities stolen in order to be here illegally, then could they not take those identities and numbers and vote with them, and would they vote in favor of the party that keeps it all going ??? I'm just asking questions here.

I'd just like some proof, please. There have been voter fraud investigations before, and I would just like to see where your accusations are shown to be true.

What accusations ?? Mine is a study, and then an assessment of the possibilities of the very way things could have actually been connected or done, even though the elites won't connect the dots for us because they may have been involved in it all.

Well, yeah, it's hard to accuse someone of 'what if'.

Happens in court all the time.. It's called circumstantial evidence. Get enough of it, and things begin to turn.

 

[OldLady]

They are doing nothing more than pandering to their base. Same as impeachment and their radical agenda.
Just like what they say trump does

You know, Harley, there's the buzz word "radical" flying around, that usually serves to cut off thinking beyond the thinker's nose.

When, actually, there is nothing remotely radical about making the promise of One (wo)man, one vote, a reality. Neither is there anything radical about placing the executive, the president and his high-level henchmen in particular, firmly under the law, making the promise of A country governed by laws, not men, a reality.

But then, declaring folks who would kick-start a debate about these very worthy issues "DUMB" without a solid argument demonstrating same, seemingly before even having taken the time and making the effort to think about it, is really dumb. Squared. I find, you are doing yourself a disservice here.

Oh, BTW, since you are gladly throwing the "pandering to the base" charge around: How about you take a second look at different ways and modes of pandering, like, whether or not the country would be better (or worse) off, in case the "pandering" proved to be successful. Finally, the claim that Democrats don't have the votes for impeachment is factually incorrect, which further demonstrates you rather seem to be not at the top of your game.

except for the fact of why the EC was created. perhaps you should read.

All posts were elected by EC to begin with, I heard. Senate, too. States insisted on having that power before they would ratify the Constitution.