This is immigration reform?

[TheGreatGatsby]

Obama seeks to offer amnesty for employers who hire illegals:

Immigration bill grants amnesty to employers of illegals; no prosecution for bogus IDs - Washington Times

Oh, and this 844 page bill seems to be something in which we need to pass it before we can find out what's in it.

 

[LilOlLady]

Only fair that we give amnesty to employers since we give amnesty to those working illegally. Enforcement has not been fair for businesses anyway. Business that are raided are usually fined and illegals released to go find another business to work for. That has been the problem. Not enough equal enforcement. 25 years after 1986 amnesty and 12 million illegal later would not be if enforcement and punishment has been equal.

 

[LilOlLady]

We need to finish enforcing the 1986 immigration bill before we pass another immigration bill. Secure the border, enforce our immigration laws against businesses that hire illegal aliens and a temporary farm workers program with no path to citizenship. Period.
Enforcement will bring them out of the shadows and no amnesty. Criminals will not come out of the shadows and they are in the work force and will continue to be in the workforce. Another amnesty is not the solution and 1986 amnesty proved that.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Once upon a time we needed to merely enforce our laws and borders. Now, 'immigration reform' is a euphemism for subverting citizenship.

 

[Socio]

The fact that they are gutting E-verify in the immigration reform would suggest not only will employers get a free pass, they can continue to hire new illegals, (likely replace the ones that get legalized whose salary's will no doubt go up as a result).

 

[antiquity]

The bill as written will cost American taxers about $2.5 trillion according to The Heritage Foundation.

The Heritage report argues that the undocumented will consume $9.4 trillion in government services, particularly Medicare and Social Security, and pay only $3.1 trillion in taxes over next half-century. That’s versus roughly $1 trillion in costs for the same population should no reform occur.

 

[RoadVirus]

Once upon a time we needed to merely enforce our laws and borders. Now, 'immigration reform' is a euphemism for subverting citizenship.

And pandering for votes

 

[Kondor3]

Once upon a time we needed to merely enforce our laws and borders. Now, 'immigration reform' is a euphemism for subverting citizenship.

Agreed. Code-speak for Shamnesty.

 

[waltky]

Amnesty bill gonna put ICE outta business...

Study: Immigration Bill Legalizes 45% of ICE's Criminal Caseload
24 May`13 - Nearly half (45%) of illegal aliens arrested on criminal charges would be eligible for legal status under the immigration bill S. 744, analysis by the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) shows.

Looking at Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) records from its Secure Communities program for the six month period Oct. 1, 2012 to March 31, 2013, the analysis shows that 17,208 of 38,547 (45%) criminal illegal aliens would be eligible for legalization under the bill despite their offenses. The 17,208 criminal illegal aliens are classified as by ICE as "Level 3 offenders in ICE parlance (convicted of fewer than three misdemeanors on separate occasions), fugitives, prior removals and returns, illegal border crossers, and over-stayers and visa violators," the analysis shows.

It cites an illegal alien convicted of negligent vehicular homicide as an example of the type of criminal alien who would qualify for legalization under the bill: "This group would include the likes of Manuel Zaruma, a 24-year old illegal immigrant construction worker from Ecuador, who recently was convicted in Worcester County, Mass., of negligent vehicular homicide (a misdemeanor), driving unlicensed, and two more traffic infractions after a crash that killed Andrea Agosto, age 47, mother of three children." It would take three such fatal crashes to make Zaruma ineligible for legalization, CIS notes.

The remaining 22,339 (55%) were convicted of a felony or at least three misdemeanors and, thus, would be ineligible for legalization - "unless the Homeland Security Secretary waived their ineligibility, which is allowed under the bill," CIS says. As "The Right Views" previously reported, the ICE Council warned Congress in a letter that the S. 744 stipulates that "the (DHS) Secretary is given the 'sole and unreviewable discretion' to waive that ineligibility for large classes of qualifying aliens."

The letter warns that political appointees would have the power to pardon virtually all types of criminal acts: "At least two of these standards appear undefined by S. 744 or current law, providing political appointees with broad authority to establish their own definitions of these terms and pardon criminal acts under almost any circumstance." In a separate analysis of S. 744, CIS warns that the bill creates other threats to public safety, national security and enforcement efforts, as well, since it is "designed to reward and protect lawbreakers" while undermining current immigration law measures.

Source

 

[LilOlLady]

Makes me think that Obama do not really want Immigration Reform Amnesty to pass because as it stands now there is not chance in hell it will pass. Why now anyway and not in his first term?

 

[antiquity]

Makes me think that Obama do not really want Immigration Reform Amnesty to pass because as it stands now there is not chance in hell it will pass. Why now anyway and not in his first term?

You are right...the democrats had a super majority in both house in the first two years Obama was in office and basically he only passed one major bill, Obamacare, and that was in the middle of the night and as Pelosi said 'We have to pass it to know what in it."

 

[racewright]

This is a complete waste of time as 90% of illegals do not want to be legal--what for they get all the goodies for free and do not pay any income tax or medicare or SSI--most do not plan to stay in the USA but to gather dollars and then return to there country (as they say) and never work again......

 

[Kondor3]

Immigration Reform = codespeak for Shamnesty...

 

[Big Black Dog]

This is immigration reform?

Immigration reform is what the government calls allowing all of the illegal aliens to stay in the country and not be run out of the country as they should be because they came here illegally in the first place. They should be returned to their country of origin, along with any and all "anchor babies" and told not to come back unless they do so legally.

 

[Unkotare]

This is immigration reform?

Immigration reform is what the government calls allowing all of the illegal aliens to stay in the country and not be run out of the country as they should be because they came here illegally in the first place. They should be returned to their country of origin, along with any and all "anchor babies" and told not to come back unless they do so legally.

We are not going to deport US citizens, no matter what insulting moniker you try to label them with.