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“Unfortunately, experienced professionals throughout the Department are afraid to voice their opinions because dissent is being punished,” she said. “Decisions are being made based on relationships and loyalty, not based on facts or expertise or sound analysis, which is very alarming given that what is at stake is our public safety.”

Fired U.S. pardon attorney complains of intimidation tactics ahead of testimony in 'shadow hearing'​

WASHINGTON — A lawyer representing the former U.S. pardon attorney complained in a letter to the Justice Department that it was using "security resources to intimidate" Liz Oyer ahead of her planned participation in a "shadow" hearing held Monday by congressional Democrats.

The letter said the Justice Department dispatched special deputy U.S. marshals to the home of Oyer, who said she was fired after she opposed adding actor Mel Gibson to a list of people having their gun rights restored. (A Justice Department official disputed that the Gibson case drove her dismissal.) The special deputy U.S. marshals had been told to deliver a letter warning Oyer to obey her obligation not to reveal information protected by executive privilege at the event Monday. Ultimately, they did not deliver the letter, after Oyer confirmed receipt of the message to a secondary email.


In a nutshell, Oyer voiced her objection to trump fan Mel Gibson having his gun rights restored. Not only was she fired, the regime tried to prevent her congressional testimony (watch the YouTube video and you'll see why) by way of intimidation. They failed. But only due to Oyer's courage.

This thread will be forgotten by trump supporters within days if not hours. (trump fans insert snark here) Not only because a story like this encapsulates so many things that are wrong about how it is destroying America's most vital institutions, but because there are so many stories like it.

Like this one.

Justice Dept. Lawyers Are Struggling to Defend Trump’s Policies in Court​

The Trump administration’s aggressive efforts to enact major elements of its agenda have led to a series of courtroom clashes between increasingly skeptical judges and the beleaguered lawyers responsible for defending the government’s positions, which some have come to see as indefensible.

The Justice Department’s thinned-out civil division has borne the brunt of the growing conflict. Inside the division, the strains of pushing the legal limits on topics as varied as mass deportations, spending power and punishing law firms are taking a major toll. Government litigators, their ranks increasingly depleted, often find themselves in court with few facts to defend policies they cannot explain, according to current and former officials.

Career lawyers representing the government have a long tradition of arguing for the goals of Republican or Democratic administrations, regardless of their personal views. What is different now, they say, is that they increasingly feel trapped between President Trump’s partisan political appointees, who insist on a maximalist approach, and judges who demand comprehensible answers to basic questions.
The most vivid example of this squeeze came on Saturday when one of the department’s senior immigration lawyers, Erez Reuveni, was suspended indefinitely after speaking candidly about the administration’s mistaken deportation of a Maryland man to a notorious megaprison in El Salvador.


A senior Justice Department immigration lawyer was put on indefinite leave Saturday after questioning the Trump administration’s decision to deport a Maryland man to El Salvador — one day after representing the government in court.

Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche suspended Erez Reuveni, the acting deputy director of the department’s immigration litigation division, for failing to “follow a directive from your superiors,” according to a letter sent to Mr. Reuveni and obtained by The New York Times.

Mr. Reuveni — who was praised as a “top-notched” prosecutor by his superiors in an email announcing his promotion two weeks ago — is the latest career official to be suspended, demoted, transferred or fired for refusing to comply with a directive from President Trump’s appointees to take actions they deem improper or unethical.


Personally, I don't have any sympathy for a lawyer who voluntarily went to work for the regime since they knew, or should have known, what they were getting involved in. Putting put in a position to violate their oath as an attorney by doing what they are told by people like Todd Blanche was inevitable. Their client, the government, is corrupt. Duh.
 
This video clip is very short. Please watch it.



“Unfortunately, experienced professionals throughout the Department are afraid to voice their opinions because dissent is being punished,” she said. “Decisions are being made based on relationships and loyalty, not based on facts or expertise or sound analysis, which is very alarming given that what is at stake is our public safety.”

Fired U.S. pardon attorney complains of intimidation tactics ahead of testimony in 'shadow hearing'​

WASHINGTON — A lawyer representing the former U.S. pardon attorney complained in a letter to the Justice Department that it was using "security resources to intimidate" Liz Oyer ahead of her planned participation in a "shadow" hearing held Monday by congressional Democrats.

The letter said the Justice Department dispatched special deputy U.S. marshals to the home of Oyer, who said she was fired after she opposed adding actor Mel Gibson to a list of people having their gun rights restored. (A Justice Department official disputed that the Gibson case drove her dismissal.) The special deputy U.S. marshals had been told to deliver a letter warning Oyer to obey her obligation not to reveal information protected by executive privilege at the event Monday. Ultimately, they did not deliver the letter, after Oyer confirmed receipt of the message to a secondary email.


In a nutshell, Oyer voiced her objection to trump fan Mel Gibson having his gun rights restored. Not only was she fired, the regime tried to prevent her congressional testimony (watch the YouTube video and you'll see why) by way of intimidation. They failed. But only due to Oyer's courage.

This thread will be forgotten by trump supporters within days if not hours. (trump fans insert snark here) Not only because a story like this encapsulates so many things that are wrong about how it is destroying America's most vital institutions, but because there are so many stories like it.

Like this one.

Justice Dept. Lawyers Are Struggling to Defend Trump’s Policies in Court​

The Trump administration’s aggressive efforts to enact major elements of its agenda have led to a series of courtroom clashes between increasingly skeptical judges and the beleaguered lawyers responsible for defending the government’s positions, which some have come to see as indefensible.

The Justice Department’s thinned-out civil division has borne the brunt of the growing conflict. Inside the division, the strains of pushing the legal limits on topics as varied as mass deportations, spending power and punishing law firms are taking a major toll. Government litigators, their ranks increasingly depleted, often find themselves in court with few facts to defend policies they cannot explain, according to current and former officials.

Career lawyers representing the government have a long tradition of arguing for the goals of Republican or Democratic administrations, regardless of their personal views. What is different now, they say, is that they increasingly feel trapped between President Trump’s partisan political appointees, who insist on a maximalist approach, and judges who demand comprehensible answers to basic questions.
The most vivid example of this squeeze came on Saturday when one of the department’s senior immigration lawyers, Erez Reuveni, was suspended indefinitely after speaking candidly about the administration’s mistaken deportation of a Maryland man to a notorious megaprison in El Salvador.


A senior Justice Department immigration lawyer was put on indefinite leave Saturday after questioning the Trump administration’s decision to deport a Maryland man to El Salvador — one day after representing the government in court.

Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche suspended Erez Reuveni, the acting deputy director of the department’s immigration litigation division, for failing to “follow a directive from your superiors,” according to a letter sent to Mr. Reuveni and obtained by The New York Times.

Mr. Reuveni — who was praised as a “top-notched” prosecutor by his superiors in an email announcing his promotion two weeks ago — is the latest career official to be suspended, demoted, transferred or fired for refusing to comply with a directive from President Trump’s appointees to take actions they deem improper or unethical.


Personally, I don't have any sympathy for a lawyer who voluntarily went to work for the regime since they knew, or should have known, what they were getting involved in. Putting put in a position to violate their oath as an attorney by doing what they are told by people like Todd Blanche was inevitable. Their client, the government, is corrupt. Duh.

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Bug's usual wall of text does not deserve attention.




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Another book by berg, wrap it up dummy.

I will wrap it up for you berg.

Berg says dissent is being punished. No Berg, it is insubordination towards your boss that is being punished
So, Trump is actually eliminating corruption by firing this lawyer. It's not surprising that the OP got it wrong.
 
So, Trump is actually eliminating corruption by firing this lawyer.
That is the opposite of the truth. But how would you know? You've been getting gaslit by trump and RWM for so long you don't know fact from fiction any longer.
 
This video clip is very short. Please watch it.



“Unfortunately, experienced professionals throughout the Department are afraid to voice their opinions because dissent is being punished,” she said. “Decisions are being made based on relationships and loyalty, not based on facts or expertise or sound analysis, which is very alarming given that what is at stake is our public safety.”

Fired U.S. pardon attorney complains of intimidation tactics ahead of testimony in 'shadow hearing'​

WASHINGTON — A lawyer representing the former U.S. pardon attorney complained in a letter to the Justice Department that it was using "security resources to intimidate" Liz Oyer ahead of her planned participation in a "shadow" hearing held Monday by congressional Democrats.

The letter said the Justice Department dispatched special deputy U.S. marshals to the home of Oyer, who said she was fired after she opposed adding actor Mel Gibson to a list of people having their gun rights restored. (A Justice Department official disputed that the Gibson case drove her dismissal.) The special deputy U.S. marshals had been told to deliver a letter warning Oyer to obey her obligation not to reveal information protected by executive privilege at the event Monday. Ultimately, they did not deliver the letter, after Oyer confirmed receipt of the message to a secondary email.


In a nutshell, Oyer voiced her objection to trump fan Mel Gibson having his gun rights restored. Not only was she fired, the regime tried to prevent her congressional testimony (watch the YouTube video and you'll see why) by way of intimidation. They failed. But only due to Oyer's courage.

This thread will be forgotten by trump supporters within days if not hours. (trump fans insert snark here) Not only because a story like this encapsulates so many things that are wrong about how it is destroying America's most vital institutions, but because there are so many stories like it.

Like this one.

Justice Dept. Lawyers Are Struggling to Defend Trump’s Policies in Court​

The Trump administration’s aggressive efforts to enact major elements of its agenda have led to a series of courtroom clashes between increasingly skeptical judges and the beleaguered lawyers responsible for defending the government’s positions, which some have come to see as indefensible.

The Justice Department’s thinned-out civil division has borne the brunt of the growing conflict. Inside the division, the strains of pushing the legal limits on topics as varied as mass deportations, spending power and punishing law firms are taking a major toll. Government litigators, their ranks increasingly depleted, often find themselves in court with few facts to defend policies they cannot explain, according to current and former officials.

Career lawyers representing the government have a long tradition of arguing for the goals of Republican or Democratic administrations, regardless of their personal views. What is different now, they say, is that they increasingly feel trapped between President Trump’s partisan political appointees, who insist on a maximalist approach, and judges who demand comprehensible answers to basic questions.
The most vivid example of this squeeze came on Saturday when one of the department’s senior immigration lawyers, Erez Reuveni, was suspended indefinitely after speaking candidly about the administration’s mistaken deportation of a Maryland man to a notorious megaprison in El Salvador.


A senior Justice Department immigration lawyer was put on indefinite leave Saturday after questioning the Trump administration’s decision to deport a Maryland man to El Salvador — one day after representing the government in court.

Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche suspended Erez Reuveni, the acting deputy director of the department’s immigration litigation division, for failing to “follow a directive from your superiors,” according to a letter sent to Mr. Reuveni and obtained by The New York Times.

Mr. Reuveni — who was praised as a “top-notched” prosecutor by his superiors in an email announcing his promotion two weeks ago — is the latest career official to be suspended, demoted, transferred or fired for refusing to comply with a directive from President Trump’s appointees to take actions they deem improper or unethical.


Personally, I don't have any sympathy for a lawyer who voluntarily went to work for the regime since they knew, or should have known, what they were getting involved in. Putting put in a position to violate their oath as an attorney by doing what they are told by people like Todd Blanche was inevitable. Their client, the government, is corrupt. Duh.

Yeah, we saw this coming a mile away.

The plan is to gain control of Justice, State, the Press, the Courts and the Court system.

Template stuff. They're well on their way. The world has seen it before.

Europe is screaming now, trying to warn us.
 
That is the opposite of the truth. But how would you know? You've been getting gaslit by trump and RWM for so long you don't know fact from fiction any longer.
You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you. You have nothing but hate. Pure, unadulterated hate for anyone who sees the world in a different light than you do.

As for gaslighting. That has been the hallmark of the media for the past 40 years.
 
Yeah, we saw this coming a mile away.

The plan is to gain control of Justice, State, the Press, the Courts and the Court system.

Template stuff. They're well on their way. The world has seen it before.

Europe is screaming now, trying to warn us.
Not really, but wresting control of Justice from the Democrats WOULD be a good plan.
 
I guess in politics this has always been the rule. In the working world thr brightest employees challenge their employers constantly. Loyalty has no place in an employees characteristics.
 
Yeah, we saw this coming a mile away.

The plan is to gain control of Justice, State, the Press, the Courts and the Court system.

Template stuff. They're well on their way. The world has seen it before.

Europe is screaming now, trying to warn us.
Any lawyer working for this DoJ who complains about being sent in front of a judge to be confrontational and or dishonest on behalf of the regime is being disingenuous. It's what they signed up for.
 
This video clip is very short. Please watch it.



“Unfortunately, experienced professionals throughout the Department are afraid to voice their opinions because dissent is being punished,” she said. “Decisions are being made based on relationships and loyalty, not based on facts or expertise or sound analysis, which is very alarming given that what is at stake is our public safety.”

Fired U.S. pardon attorney complains of intimidation tactics ahead of testimony in 'shadow hearing'​

WASHINGTON — A lawyer representing the former U.S. pardon attorney complained in a letter to the Justice Department that it was using "security resources to intimidate" Liz Oyer ahead of her planned participation in a "shadow" hearing held Monday by congressional Democrats.

The letter said the Justice Department dispatched special deputy U.S. marshals to the home of Oyer, who said she was fired after she opposed adding actor Mel Gibson to a list of people having their gun rights restored. (A Justice Department official disputed that the Gibson case drove her dismissal.) The special deputy U.S. marshals had been told to deliver a letter warning Oyer to obey her obligation not to reveal information protected by executive privilege at the event Monday. Ultimately, they did not deliver the letter, after Oyer confirmed receipt of the message to a secondary email.


In a nutshell, Oyer voiced her objection to trump fan Mel Gibson having his gun rights restored. Not only was she fired, the regime tried to prevent her congressional testimony (watch the YouTube video and you'll see why) by way of intimidation. They failed. But only due to Oyer's courage.

This thread will be forgotten by trump supporters within days if not hours. (trump fans insert snark here) Not only because a story like this encapsulates so many things that are wrong about how it is destroying America's most vital institutions, but because there are so many stories like it.

Like this one.

Justice Dept. Lawyers Are Struggling to Defend Trump’s Policies in Court​

The Trump administration’s aggressive efforts to enact major elements of its agenda have led to a series of courtroom clashes between increasingly skeptical judges and the beleaguered lawyers responsible for defending the government’s positions, which some have come to see as indefensible.

The Justice Department’s thinned-out civil division has borne the brunt of the growing conflict. Inside the division, the strains of pushing the legal limits on topics as varied as mass deportations, spending power and punishing law firms are taking a major toll. Government litigators, their ranks increasingly depleted, often find themselves in court with few facts to defend policies they cannot explain, according to current and former officials.

Career lawyers representing the government have a long tradition of arguing for the goals of Republican or Democratic administrations, regardless of their personal views. What is different now, they say, is that they increasingly feel trapped between President Trump’s partisan political appointees, who insist on a maximalist approach, and judges who demand comprehensible answers to basic questions.
The most vivid example of this squeeze came on Saturday when one of the department’s senior immigration lawyers, Erez Reuveni, was suspended indefinitely after speaking candidly about the administration’s mistaken deportation of a Maryland man to a notorious megaprison in El Salvador.


A senior Justice Department immigration lawyer was put on indefinite leave Saturday after questioning the Trump administration’s decision to deport a Maryland man to El Salvador — one day after representing the government in court.

Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche suspended Erez Reuveni, the acting deputy director of the department’s immigration litigation division, for failing to “follow a directive from your superiors,” according to a letter sent to Mr. Reuveni and obtained by The New York Times.

Mr. Reuveni — who was praised as a “top-notched” prosecutor by his superiors in an email announcing his promotion two weeks ago — is the latest career official to be suspended, demoted, transferred or fired for refusing to comply with a directive from President Trump’s appointees to take actions they deem improper or unethical.


Personally, I don't have any sympathy for a lawyer who voluntarily went to work for the regime since they knew, or should have known, what they were getting involved in. Putting put in a position to violate their oath as an attorney by doing what they are told by people like Todd Blanche was inevitable. Their client, the government, is corrupt. Duh.

YOU discuss daily.
 
Was the 2020 presidential election stolen from trump?
is that all you have? A fall back to a closed-minded belief?

Biden is gone, Trump is in office now and hopefully the world will look out for its own interest and start doing open and fair business with us. If not, they'll going to get mighty cold out in the wild.

I realize you clowns think that is a gotcha question, but it really isn't.
 
I guess in politics this has always been the rule. In the working world thr brightest employees challenge their employers constantly. Loyalty has no place in an employees characteristics.
How does that word salad address DoJ lawyers being sent in to courtrooms with orders to disrespect judges by stonewalling them?
 
After the partisan LAWFARE against Trump, to hear democrats whining is music to my ears.


Exactly! We had people who were fired for being Trump supporters, or denied promotions.

Where was the crying for them?

Trump is cleaning house by getting rid of biased, politically-driven government employees in a position to do harm or otherwise impede the agenda of that which America voted for.
 
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