Today...Smashing The Lie That JFK Was or Would Be a Conservative Today

[Russ Alllah Gehry]

People get into trouble using the terms liberal and conservative.

These words change meanings over time.

Going back and reclassifying the POTI (plural of PUTUS) I would label them as follows based on a modern construal:

Trump -- a RINO so far -- talks like a liberal but walks like a conservative -- more tax cuts for the rich -- Trumpcare is No-care -- etc.

Obama -- ACA makes him clearly liberal.

Dubya -- record breaking tax cuts for the rich in the process of which he skyrocketed the deficit -- so he was a chameleon -- hard to label such an inept POTUS as anything but inept.

Clinton -- was anti gun -- originally "liberal" meant pro-gun.

GHW -- raised taxes on the working poor and middle class so this qualifies as "conservative"

Reagan -- due to his legacy of destroying the middle class you can only call this tax cuts for the rich / but he was also a communist in terms of being anti gun while a governor in California -- google "mulford act".

Carter -- very liberal in terms of raising taxes on the rich which his Alt Min Tax which has been the most successful tax on the rich in history (this is why Trump wants to get rid of it).

Ford -- hard to say.

Nixon -- hard to say -- he employed "price controls" which is not conservative but other than Watergate he is not known for much except negotiating the US out of Viet Nam.

LBJ -- very liberal and tried to help black's a lot too

JFK -- somewhat liberal but with conservative traits too like cutting taxes

Ike -- very conservative -- did not do much just a caretaker as are most conservatives.

Truman -- hard to say either way.

FDR -- very liberal including helping the elderly with OASDI and the unemployed with a New Deal

Hoover -- very conservative including ignoring the poor and unemployed completely.

My history is hazy before Hoover. I remember GHW being compared to Hoover so that's the only reason I went back that far in history.

Cutting taxes is NOT a conservative thing. Sorry. Facts are facts.

Conservative traits? exactly what I have been saying. JFK was a liberal with some conservative views on some issues. Most true liberals would differ and then work out a compromise.

some people are delusional and of course how partisans use labels and meanings change, but ideological views do not. JFK held some seriously liberal views.

LMFAO..so now you're admitting JFK was a conservative..



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Okay Troll boy

Says the stupid fuck who thinks JFK would be a liberal today..


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Okay Troll Queen

 

[Wyatt earp]

You morons think this sounds like the modern far right republican party? The party of fucking Trump? LMFAO!

You're a child and would kick JFK ideology out in a heartbeat..

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You are brainwashed bud. It's actually making me sad.

Indoctrination would be you an the OP..

Children..


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[Russ Alllah Gehry]

You morons think this sounds like the modern far right republican party? The party of fucking Trump? LMFAO!

You're a child and would kick JFK ideology out in a heartbeat..

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You are brainwashed bud. It's actually making me sad.

He's a long time troll on USMB . Research the Archies

 

[Russ Alllah Gehry]

Yet you stole it from him

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I bet you believe a few emails actually swung a state election

name the state elections the liberals stole from the left

bear513 ???

 

[Wyatt earp]

People get into trouble using the terms liberal and conservative.

These words change meanings over time.

Going back and reclassifying the POTI (plural of PUTUS) I would label them as follows based on a modern construal:

Trump -- a RINO so far -- talks like a liberal but walks like a conservative -- more tax cuts for the rich -- Trumpcare is No-care -- etc.

Obama -- ACA makes him clearly liberal.

Dubya -- record breaking tax cuts for the rich in the process of which he skyrocketed the deficit -- so he was a chameleon -- hard to label such an inept POTUS as anything but inept.

Clinton -- was anti gun -- originally "liberal" meant pro-gun.

GHW -- raised taxes on the working poor and middle class so this qualifies as "conservative"

Reagan -- due to his legacy of destroying the middle class you can only call this tax cuts for the rich / but he was also a communist in terms of being anti gun while a governor in California -- google "mulford act".

Carter -- very liberal in terms of raising taxes on the rich which his Alt Min Tax which has been the most successful tax on the rich in history (this is why Trump wants to get rid of it).

Ford -- hard to say.

Nixon -- hard to say -- he employed "price controls" which is not conservative but other than Watergate he is not known for much except negotiating the US out of Viet Nam.

LBJ -- very liberal and tried to help black's a lot too

JFK -- somewhat liberal but with conservative traits too like cutting taxes

Ike -- very conservative -- did not do much just a caretaker as are most conservatives.

Truman -- hard to say either way.

FDR -- very liberal including helping the elderly with OASDI and the unemployed with a New Deal

Hoover -- very conservative including ignoring the poor and unemployed completely.

My history is hazy before Hoover. I remember GHW being compared to Hoover so that's the only reason I went back that far in history.

Cutting taxes is NOT a conservative thing. Sorry. Facts are facts.

Conservative traits? exactly what I have been saying. JFK was a liberal with some conservative views on some issues. Most true liberals would differ and then work out a compromise.

some people are delusional and of course how partisans use labels and meanings change, but ideological views do not. JFK held some seriously liberal views.

LMFAO..so now you're admitting JFK was a conservative..



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Okay Troll boy

Says the stupid fuck who thinks JFK would be a liberal today..


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Okay Troll Queen

That's all you have left?

 

[flacaltenn]

"There is something to be said for a nation run by elites" -- do you fear agreeing with that statement?

Yeah I do. Because the concept of WHO is elite is WARPED by politics. What makes Nancy Pelosi elite? Or Lindsey Graham? Elite is not "monied". Or "party loyal".. YOUR party of "elites" believes in SuperDelegates. Capes and all. Those life-long loyalists who took scars for the cause. Who now get a PRIMARY vote equivalent to 70,000 regular Joes. I fear that -- Yes I do...

But most of all, your party looks on America as helpless, clueless and not capable of making a Republic function without those political "elites"... And that sucks. That's why I left Brand Name politics and worked for 3rd party politics for the past couple decades..

 

[Wyatt earp]

Yet you stole it from him

.

I bet you believe a few emails actually swung a state election

name the state elections the liberals stole from the left

bear513 ???

Wearing you out am I sock puppet?


Thought so,

 

[WheelieAddict]

You morons think this sounds like the modern far right republican party? The party of fucking Trump? LMFAO!

You're a child and would kick JFK ideology out in a heartbeat..

.

You are brainwashed bud. It's actually making me sad.

He's a long time troll on USMB . Research the Archies

*Propagandist, aka,trash.

 

[Russ Alllah Gehry]

He's arguing for a Government funded Medical Care Program

It took LBJ to create Medicare. We know.

Pretty young when it passed, but I remember it was only supposed to cover catastrophic illness not pay for a visit to the Doctors office.

And conservatives went loopy. Their principle is the one Ryan pushes today: It's not the federal government's business

Which is why I highlight/bold these words in the OP people say, "Why doesn't the Government mind its own business?" What is the Government's business, is the question.

 

[Russ Alllah Gehry]

Wearing you out am I sock puppet?


Thought so,

You stink. Always have. And I have researched you. You have always stunk

 

[Wyatt earp]

You morons think this sounds like the modern far right republican party? The party of fucking Trump? LMFAO!

You're a child and would kick JFK ideology out in a heartbeat..

.

You are brainwashed bud. It's actually making me sad.

He's a long time troll on USMB . Research the Archies

*Propagandist, aka,trash.

Says the Democrat underground trash.


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[Wyatt earp]

Wearing you out am I sock puppet?


Thought so,

You stink. Always have. And I have researched you. You have always stunk

How can you research me if your a new sock puppet?

 

[Russ Alllah Gehry]

"There is something to be said for a nation run by elites" -- do you fear agreeing with that statement?

Yeah I do. Because the concept of WHO is elite is WARPED by politics. What makes Nancy Pelosi elite? Or Lindsey Graham? Elite is not "monied". Or "party loyal".. YOUR party of "elites" believes in SuperDelegates. Capes and all. Those life-long loyalists who took scars for the cause. Who now get a PRIMARY vote equivalent to 70,000 regular Joes. I fear that -- Yes I do...

Super Delegates are to serve a function. Hillary won without them. Each party is a legal entity that gets to set it's own rules. Don't blame them if people are so dumb they believe party primaries are akin to general elections

Ronald Reagan and President Ford in 1976 -- look it up -- both major parties have battles over rules ... inside/family battles. The public has NO say, because the national parties have their own rules

 

[Wyatt earp]

Wearing you out am I sock puppet?


Thought so,

You stink. Always have. And I have researched you. You have always stunk

How can you research me if your a new sock puppet?

What you don't think I don't know who's socks are these?

Obvious ..

 

[Russ Alllah Gehry]

Wearing you out am I sock puppet?


Thought so,

You stink. Always have. And I have researched you. You have always stunk

How can you research me if your a new sock puppet?

How can you breathe if your such a dead dick

 

[WheelieAddict]

You morons think this sounds like the modern far right republican party? The party of fucking Trump? LMFAO!

You're a child and would kick JFK ideology out in a heartbeat..

.

You are brainwashed bud. It's actually making me sad.

He's a long time troll on USMB . Research the Archies

*Propagandist, aka,trash.

Says the Democrat underground trash.


.

^mentally challenged=republican base

 

[Russ Alllah Gehry]

Wearing you out am I sock puppet?


Thought so,

You stink. Always have. And I have researched you. You have always stunk

How can you research me if your a new sock puppet?

What you don't think I don't know who's socks are these?

Obvious ..

Shh, the land of the banned awaits thee

spreading rumors and such is a violation''you have been warned

 

[Wyatt earp]

"There is something to be said for a nation run by elites" -- do you fear agreeing with that statement?

Yeah I do. Because the concept of WHO is elite is WARPED by politics. What makes Nancy Pelosi elite? Or Lindsey Graham? Elite is not "monied". Or "party loyal".. YOUR party of "elites" believes in SuperDelegates. Capes and all. Those life-long loyalists who took scars for the cause. Who now get a PRIMARY vote equivalent to 70,000 regular Joes. I fear that -- Yes I do...

Super Delegates are to serve a function. Hillary won without them. Each party is a legal entity that gets to set it's own rules. Don't blame them if people are so dumb they believe party primaries are akin to general elections

Ronald Reagan and President Ford in 1976 -- look it up -- both major parties have battles over rules ... inside/family battles. The public has NO say, because the national parties have their own rules

Hillary won without them.


She did?

What alternative universe would that be?

 

[Russ Alllah Gehry]

What you don't think I don't know who's socks are these?

Obvious ..

Cross-Dressing Day at Elementary School has Parents Upset

 

[Wyatt earp]

You're a child and would kick JFK ideology out in a heartbeat..

.

You are brainwashed bud. It's actually making me sad.

He's a long time troll on USMB . Research the Archies

*Propagandist, aka,trash.

Says the Democrat underground trash.


.

^mentally challenged=republican base

Now you sock puppets talking to your self...


Interesting...