Toddler finds mother shot dead in Umm al-Fahm

[Lipush]

Don't you love to say "you reap what you sow"?

When killing their friends, you expect the settlers not to react?

How does your own reason work for you?

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

Hold your horses, did I see it right? Did Sherri just compared the boston bombers to the Fogels???

So Sherri does believe that a butchered 3 months old baby is the same as guilty as the ones who bombed innocent American civilians?

Are you kidding me?!?!?!?!

The parents are most responsible for their deaths, putting their lives in danger the way they did.

By that way of thinking, if (HaShem yerachem) your children die in a car crash, it's your fault for giving them a drivers license.

People do not issue drivers license to their children where I live. And driving a car is not the same as taking your family to live as illegal settlers on land that belongs to another people. I think the proper word for the settlers is terrorists, looking at their egregious violations of intl law. Settlements in the OPT are a terrorist enterprise.

 

[Coyote]

You make a very interesting observation Coyote---which reminds
me of something a quite intelligent and reasonable Pakistani
educated surgeon told me long ago-----besides the fact that
Maimonides was a muslim who had been born a jew---and
jews were never oppressed in muslim lands----etc etc----the
bits and pieces of pogroms coming to lite back then in
islamic lands against jews-----was justified by the fact that
have an ambition to take over the entire middle east and
force all muslims to convert to judaism. ---and even BETTER--
all prior problems jews had in muslim lands were related to
the fact that the AGENDA of zionism was known to muslims---
even muhummad knew

In fact the hebron pogrom of 1929 -----as you know---
was enacted because muslims knew that there would
someday BE A GOLDSTEIN-----so they enacted a justified
pre-emptive infant throat slitting

The genocide of a hundred million hindus was justified
for the same reasons

The real basis for islamic violence is the fact that all
truth is revealed in the koran which clearly states
what is going to happen-----and clearly states that
the PLAN already exists and is DIVINE----the road
to Jannah is via PARTICIPATION which is why slitting
an infants throat is a good idea

Hebron was almost a century ago. I fail to see it's relevance in excusing or justifying a modern massacre that is inexcusable.

 

[Lipush]

Should I sue my family for raising me in southern Israel? because of the rockets?

Yeah, that makes sense!

By the way, from whom was America taken, Sherri?

 

[Coyote]

As I explained, the Fogels were no different than the Boston bomber, when war criminals are killed some shall celebrate! But the fact some do, does not mean all do.

The Fogels were " War Criminals?" You previously stated she taught terrorism to young girls. Link please, you fake , phoney " christian". I asked you to provide the link when you stated " she deserved it" and of course you didn't.

By your own admission there was celebration yet Israelis and Jews are supposed to feel SORROW, COMPASSION, AND EMPATHY towards Arabs? I will... When Hell freezes over

She never backed up this claim, which is offensive to me as an Israeli.

The Fogels were a civilian family. 3 of them were children under the age of 12.

I have yet to hear any condemning from Sherri's part regarding them. She basically said they deserved it.

Yet she asks me why I do not have more sympathy with her twisted views.

The heart of Israel cries every single day for our precious Tamar.

God bless her

Sherri's no worse than other twisted views who justify rather than condemn Baruch Goldstein's massacre.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

As I explained, the Fogels were no different than the Boston bomber, when war criminals are killed some shall celebrate! But the fact some do, does not mean all do.

The Fogels were " War Criminals?" You previously stated she taught terrorism to young girls. Link please, you fake , phoney " christian". I asked you to provide the link when you stated " she deserved it" and of course you didn't.

By your own admission there was celebration yet Israelis and Jews are supposed to feel SORROW, COMPASSION, AND EMPATHY towards Arabs? I will... When Hell freezes over

She never backed up this claim, which is offensive to me as an Israeli.

The Fogels were a civilian family. 3 of them were children under the age of 12.
I have yet to hear any condemning from Sherri's part regarding them. She basically said they deserved it.

Yet she asks me why I do not have more sympathy with her twisted views.

The heart of Israel cries every single day for our precious Tamar.

God bless her

Girls At War, I provided that link to that article many times. To think about what they are teaching those girls every day in those schools. God only knows what monsters they shall grow into. Then we shall see one day Israel really reaping what she has sown with her terrorists war criminal illegal settler enterprise in Occupied Palestine. I cannot wait to see it.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

The Fogels were " War Criminals?" You previously stated she taught terrorism to young girls. Link please, you fake , phoney " christian". I asked you to provide the link when you stated " she deserved it" and of course you didn't.

By your own admission there was celebration yet Israelis and Jews are supposed to feel SORROW, COMPASSION, AND EMPATHY towards Arabs? I will... When Hell freezes over

She never backed up this claim, which is offensive to me as an Israeli.

The Fogels were a civilian family. 3 of them were children under the age of 12.

I have yet to hear any condemning from Sherri's part regarding them. She basically said they deserved it.

Yet she asks me why I do not have more sympathy with her twisted views.

The heart of Israel cries every single day for our precious Tamar.

God bless her

Sherri's no worse than other twisted views who justify rather than condemn Baruch Goldstein's massacre.

Well, of course you are entitled to your opinion, as we all are.

 

[Lipush]

The Fogels were " War Criminals?" You previously stated she taught terrorism to young girls. Link please, you fake , phoney " christian". I asked you to provide the link when you stated " she deserved it" and of course you didn't.

By your own admission there was celebration yet Israelis and Jews are supposed to feel SORROW, COMPASSION, AND EMPATHY towards Arabs? I will... When Hell freezes over

She never backed up this claim, which is offensive to me as an Israeli.

The Fogels were a civilian family. 3 of them were children under the age of 12.

I have yet to hear any condemning from Sherri's part regarding them. She basically said they deserved it.

Yet she asks me why I do not have more sympathy with her twisted views.

The heart of Israel cries every single day for our precious Tamar.

God bless her

Sherri's no worse than other twisted views who justify rather than condemn Baruch Goldstein's massacre.

And not better, either

 

[Coyote]

Hold your horses, did I see it right? Did Sherri just compared the boston bombers to the Fogels???

So Sherri does believe that a butchered 3 months old baby is the same as guilty as the ones who bombed innocent American civilians?

Are you kidding me?!?!?!?!

No kidding.

 

[Lipush]

Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[Coyote]

She never backed up this claim, which is offensive to me as an Israeli.

The Fogels were a civilian family. 3 of them were children under the age of 12.

I have yet to hear any condemning from Sherri's part regarding them. She basically said they deserved it.

Yet she asks me why I do not have more sympathy with her twisted views.

The heart of Israel cries every single day for our precious Tamar.

God bless her

Sherri's no worse than other twisted views who justify rather than condemn Baruch Goldstein's massacre.

And not better, either

Didn't say it was.

But I notice a distinct difference.

A good number of people are, justifiably aghast that the Fogels are being put in the same category as a terrorist who murdered and maimed a lot of innocent people. What ever the Fogel's political and personal views may have been - they did not kill or attack or maim a single person.

Yet, we also have on this thread another poster attempting to justify and excuse an equally horrendous mass murder and not a word of condemnation.

So why is that?

 

[Lipush]

I do not know.

I do know, though, that most Israelis feel disgusted and unconnected to that massacre. In his actions, Goldstein went against everything Judaism is supposed to stand for.

And we all know that.

 

[Coyote]

I do not know.

I do know, though, that most Israelis feel disgusted and unconnected to that massacre. In his actions, Goldstein went against everything Judaism is supposed to stand for.

And we all know that.

Yes - the mainstream Israeli public and government absolutely denounced it. A number of settlers though, commended it and Goldstein as a hero. In many ways, the settles seem more like the Palistinians than Israeli's.

 

[Hossfly]

Settlers regularly carry out acts like this, as well.

Terrorist Israeli colonists of the Illegal colony Havat Ma'on set fire to two dunums of wheat owned by the farmer Ali Awad from south Hebron Hills. Citizens and shepherds who were in the area put out the fire before extending to other fields around

Archive pic shows Palestinian wheat in fire by colonists

It's a rotten shame! Those beautifu amber waves of grain being destroyed and only the weeds and rocks remain. Unforgiveable!

 

[Lipush]

I do not know.

I do know, though, that most Israelis feel disgusted and unconnected to that massacre. In his actions, Goldstein went against everything Judaism is supposed to stand for.

And we all know that.

Yes - the mainstream Israeli public and government absolutely denounced it. A number of settlers though, commended it and Goldstein as a hero. In many ways, the settles seem more like the Palistinians than Israeli's.

I agree, but to a point. a big point that is

 

[Coyote]

Settlers regularly carry out acts like this, as well.

Terrorist Israeli colonists of the Illegal colony Havat Ma'on set fire to two dunums of wheat owned by the farmer Ali Awad from south Hebron Hills. Citizens and shepherds who were in the area put out the fire before extending to other fields around

Archive pic shows Palestinian wheat in fire by colonists

It's a rotten shame! Those beautifu amber waves of grain being destroyed and only the weeds and rocks remain. Unforgiveable!

Olive trees.

 

[Hossfly]

Settlers regularly carry out acts like this, as well.

Terrorist Israeli colonists of the Illegal colony Havat Ma'on set fire to two dunums of wheat owned by the farmer Ali Awad from south Hebron Hills. Citizens and shepherds who were in the area put out the fire before extending to other fields around

Archive pic shows Palestinian wheat in fire by colonists

It's a rotten shame! Those beautifu amber waves of grain being destroyed and only the weeds and rocks remain. Unforgiveable!

Olive trees.

Oh! You mean the teeny,weenie little trees between the Jeeps? I couldn't see them for all the waist high wheet Sherri said were on 2 dunums of field.

 

[SherriMunnerlyn]

The Irony in the Fogel case is it was likely a disgruntled migrant worker who killed them, not even Palestinians. It is like the hate for Palestinians, in particilar the settlers who embrace religious extremism, extends outwards to encompass all nonJews. And I have heard the plight of the migrant worker discussed and it appears to be even worse then that of the Palestinians. Many are raped or killed before they even make it to Israel and there they exist as essentially slaves, forbidden from marrying or having children even, forbidden from changing jobs, so they are slaves of whoever they come to work for. A life so devoid of freedom, it seems obvious some might turn on their masters and respond to the injustices they live with with violence. I do not want to justify it, but understanding why they might do such a thing, I am fully capable of doing.

 

[Coyote]

It's a rotten shame! Those beautifu amber waves of grain being destroyed and only the weeds and rocks remain. Unforgiveable!

Olive trees.

Oh! You mean the teeny,weenie little trees between the Jeeps? I couldn't see them for all the waist high wheet Sherri said were on 2 dunums of field.

Picture may not show much, but settler violence and vandalism of Palestinian agriculture is well documented. It doesn't matter if it doesn't look like much to those use to well irrigated agriculture in good soil - it is to the people who live on it.

 

[irosie91]

what is that picture supposed to show us----
it is OBVIOUSLY not a wheat field and where
are the "olive trees"? I see a field of what
we in my town (usa---kinda suburb rural) called
SCRUB -----some scraggly green weeds. Someone
actually was stupid enough to try to get a plow
over those jutting rocks? I agree an olive tree
could survive somewhere between those rocks----but
where is it?