Trucking companies complain no truckers

[Wolfstrike]

Trucking companies complain no truckers

I guess they'll have to start paying money.

sure, if you find a half way reputable company you can start at $36K your fist year, but the truth is you work for an over-the-road company 24/7.

if you divide 10 to 14 hours per day driving, it's like 6.50 per hour.

For some strange reason we use the Karl Marx plan of per mile, so if a driver is stuck in traffic he gets nothing. More Socialist poison in America.

companies start at .17 cents, .18 cents per mile now.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Trucking companies complain no truckers

I guess they'll have to start paying money.

sure, if you find a half way reputable company you can start at $36K your fist year, but the truth is you work for an over-the-road company 24/7.

if you divide 10 to 14 hours per day driving, it's like 6.50 per hour.

For some strange reason we use the Karl Marx plan of per mile, so if a driver is stuck in traffic he gets nothing. More Socialist poison in America.

companies start at .17 cents, .18 cents per mile now.

LLMMAAOOOOO

 

[JimBowie1958]

Trucking companies complain no truckers

I guess they'll have to start paying money.

sure, if you find a half way reputable company you can start at $36K your fist year, but the truth is you work for an over-the-road company 24/7.

if you divide 10 to 14 hours per day driving, it's like 6.50 per hour.

For some strange reason we use the Karl Marx plan of per mile, so if a driver is stuck in traffic he gets nothing. More Socialist poison in America.

companies start at .17 cents, .18 cents per mile now.

LLMMAAOOOOO

Why do you laugh?

You think that they arent making people drive for way too long according to the law? That they arent paying crap as there are so many desperate people trying to find work?

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Trucking companies complain no truckers

I guess they'll have to start paying money.

sure, if you find a half way reputable company you can start at $36K your fist year, but the truth is you work for an over-the-road company 24/7.

if you divide 10 to 14 hours per day driving, it's like 6.50 per hour.

For some strange reason we use the Karl Marx plan of per mile, so if a driver is stuck in traffic he gets nothing. More Socialist poison in America.

companies start at .17 cents, .18 cents per mile now.

Drove a Semi for a short period, and never again would I do that!

It is not a job but a way of life, and it is like the old cowboy life on the wagon trails...

 

[Timmy]

Why are the socialists to blame ?

Are u mad that there are regs against 1/2 asleep drivers barreling down the highway in semi trucks !?

 

[CowboyTed]

Why are the socialists to blame ?

Are u mad that there are regs against 1/2 asleep drivers barreling down the highway in semi trucks !?

I pretty sure it is the RW and GOP that object to a minimum wage...

They also want Government out of business so why are they complaining?

 

[Manonthestreet]

Trucking companies complain no truckers

I guess they'll have to start paying money.

sure, if you find a half way reputable company you can start at $36K your fist year, but the truth is you work for an over-the-road company 24/7.

if you divide 10 to 14 hours per day driving, it's like 6.50 per hour.

For some strange reason we use the Karl Marx plan of per mile, so if a driver is stuck in traffic he gets nothing. More Socialist poison in America.

companies start at .17 cents, .18 cents per mile now.

LLMMAAOOOOO

Why do you laugh?

You think that they arent making people drive for way too long according to the law? That they arent paying crap as there are so many desperate people trying to find work?

I laugh because those wages quoted havent been paid in decades............

 

[tyroneweaver]

My son drives for Dot. I think he's at like at 40-50 cents a mile

 

[Timmy]

Another right winger bullshit lie thread . Just like the other dozen on the front page .

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Trucking companies complain no truckers

I guess they'll have to start paying money.

sure, if you find a half way reputable company you can start at $36K your fist year, but the truth is you work for an over-the-road company 24/7.

if you divide 10 to 14 hours per day driving, it's like 6.50 per hour.

For some strange reason we use the Karl Marx plan of per mile, so if a driver is stuck in traffic he gets nothing. More Socialist poison in America.

companies start at .17 cents, .18 cents per mile now.

Really? What companies are those?

For over-the-road drivers, there is heavy competition. In fact, this year, we need over 60,000 new drivers that industry can't find.

As for pay, if you spend one year on the road and have a good record, you can easily get into one of the major companies and do 60K per year if not better. UPS and FedEx have all kinds of local jobs so you can go home every night if you wish. I have a friend at CCX that says they are doing all they can to find new employees.

The problem isn't the trucking companies, the problem is our government.

Nearly every year, the government adds more and more DOT cops. They can pull you over for any reason at any time. Since truck drivers have no Constitutional rights, they can pull you over, invade your trailer, look in your cab, and even under the hood of your vehicle. And if they don't like the way you look, they can even order you to take a drug test.

If you do drive a truck for a living, you get a pretty good idea of how the Germans lived during WWII. When you pass one of those DOT cops, or in my state that certifies the state troopers to do the same, you always look in your mirror to see if one is going to hunt you down.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Trucking companies complain no truckers

I guess they'll have to start paying money.

sure, if you find a half way reputable company you can start at $36K your fist year, but the truth is you work for an over-the-road company 24/7.

if you divide 10 to 14 hours per day driving, it's like 6.50 per hour.

For some strange reason we use the Karl Marx plan of per mile, so if a driver is stuck in traffic he gets nothing. More Socialist poison in America.

companies start at .17 cents, .18 cents per mile now.

The max you can drive per day is 11 hours.

 

[WinterBorn]

Trucking companies complain no truckers

I guess they'll have to start paying money.

sure, if you find a half way reputable company you can start at $36K your fist year, but the truth is you work for an over-the-road company 24/7.

if you divide 10 to 14 hours per day driving, it's like 6.50 per hour.

For some strange reason we use the Karl Marx plan of per mile, so if a driver is stuck in traffic he gets nothing. More Socialist poison in America.

companies start at .17 cents, .18 cents per mile now.

The max you can drive per day is 11 hours.

I was wondering if anyone would point out that flaw in his whine.

 

[Wolfstrike]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Piecework Pay is an economic theory that actually has its roots in Karl Marx (yes, the father of communism). Marx’s idea of “surplus labor” was basically that anytime a worker earns his “keep” - enough money to sustain his family, then any extra work that is done is solely for the profit of the company. The result (according to Marx) was that companies would work people 24/7 if they could for profit. By paying people by the “piece” you would maximize surplus labor, and the company would have a greater profit without shelling out too much money to workers.

Today’s economic ideas of Surplus Labor are a little different, though still rooted in Marx. Surplus Labor today is that anytime someone is standing around doing nothing in the workplace, Labor is “surplus” - cutting into profits, because people are being paid to not produce. All industry has Surplus labor - it’s unavoidable as factory machines break down, power outages still happen, etc. However, companies today seek to minimize surplus labor. This is why there are sometimes “unexplained” layoffs.

Trucking does this perfectly: it eliminates all surplus labor by only paying people when they are producing - when the wheels are moving. It’s Piecework pay.
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Why Drivers Are Paid By The Mile | TruckingTruth Blog

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Piecework Pay is an economic theory that actually has its roots in Karl Marx (yes, the father of communism). Marx’s idea of “surplus labor” was basically that anytime a worker earns his “keep” - enough money to sustain his family, then any extra work that is done is solely for the profit of the company. The result (according to Marx) was that companies would work people 24/7 if they could for profit. By paying people by the “piece” you would maximize surplus labor, and the company would have a greater profit without shelling out too much money to workers.

Today’s economic ideas of Surplus Labor are a little different, though still rooted in Marx. Surplus Labor today is that anytime someone is standing around doing nothing in the workplace, Labor is “surplus” - cutting into profits, because people are being paid to not produce. All industry has Surplus labor - it’s unavoidable as factory machines break down, power outages still happen, etc. However, companies today seek to minimize surplus labor. This is why there are sometimes “unexplained” layoffs.

Trucking does this perfectly: it eliminates all surplus labor by only paying people when they are producing - when the wheels are moving. It’s Piecework pay.
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Why Drivers Are Paid By The Mile | TruckingTruth Blog

That may be true, but because they want to make as much money per week as they can, watch how some of these assholes drive. They are dangerous to the public and they expect everybody to get out of their way when they come down the road. This is particularly true for those who get paid by the weight instead of miles. You see this with flatbed drivers and covered wagon drivers. These MF's think they own the highway.

 

[RandallFlagg]

Trucking companies complain no truckers

I guess they'll have to start paying money.

sure, if you find a half way reputable company you can start at $36K your fist year, but the truth is you work for an over-the-road company 24/7.

if you divide 10 to 14 hours per day driving, it's like 6.50 per hour.

For some strange reason we use the Karl Marx plan of per mile, so if a driver is stuck in traffic he gets nothing. More Socialist poison in America.

companies start at .17 cents, .18 cents per mile now.

Hmm, interesting. I was in the trucking business for the last 20 years of my working life. Dealt with our company drivers (Teamsters) as well as OTR company and OO drivers. I dealt with incoming and outgoing freight for our company.

Our company drivers started out at nearly $25 per hour (most had dedicated runs) and most Owner Operators (who brought freight into our warehouse made well over $90,000 - 100,000 per year. Most over the road drivers were (when I retired) making between .25 and .47 cents per mile.

Our drivers made (on average) $80,000 per year and up - depending on how hard they wanted to work. Most worked 5 day/night weeks averaging around 2,000+ miler per week.

I don't know what company is paying their drivers (maybe rookies?) .17-.18 per mile - but there is little wonder they can't find drivers. Only a rookie or a damned fool would work for that.

 

[WinterBorn]

It sounds like somebody got a CDL after hearing about good money, and is pissed because it isn't starting pay.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Trucking companies complain no truckers

I guess they'll have to start paying money.

sure, if you find a half way reputable company you can start at $36K your fist year, but the truth is you work for an over-the-road company 24/7.

if you divide 10 to 14 hours per day driving, it's like 6.50 per hour.

For some strange reason we use the Karl Marx plan of per mile, so if a driver is stuck in traffic he gets nothing. More Socialist poison in America.

companies start at .17 cents, .18 cents per mile now.

The max you can drive per day is 11 hours.

I was wondering if anyone would point out that flaw in his whine.

And you can't fudge anymore because a lot of logs are electronic

 

[RandallFlagg]

It sounds like somebody got a CDL after hearing about good money, and is pissed because it isn't starting pay.

Believe me - I have heard every horror story that can be told. When I first retired from the Army and went to work for the Wholesale distributor in the MidWest (in like 1989) some of these companies were working their guys nearly to death, running two, three and sometimes four logbooks. Being out on the road for 6-8 weeks at a time, never getting any home time - on and on. Then I became familiar with the "company drivers". Our guys had a damn fine deal. 5 days or nights on - two days off. They made great money, had a great health and welfare program, great vacation time. For the life of me, I could never figure out why the hell ANYONE would want to be an OTR driver. I used to see those guys come into the warehouse barely able to stand - they had to drive for two days straight to get to Kansas City - had to hire a lumper, unload and immediately call dispatch to get another load - all before getting any sleep.

No damned way to live, if you ask me....

 

[RandallFlagg]

Trucking companies complain no truckers

I guess they'll have to start paying money.

sure, if you find a half way reputable company you can start at $36K your fist year, but the truth is you work for an over-the-road company 24/7.

if you divide 10 to 14 hours per day driving, it's like 6.50 per hour.

For some strange reason we use the Karl Marx plan of per mile, so if a driver is stuck in traffic he gets nothing. More Socialist poison in America.

companies start at .17 cents, .18 cents per mile now.

The max you can drive per day is 11 hours.

I was wondering if anyone would point out that flaw in his whine.

And you can't fudge anymore because a lot of logs are electronic

Indeed. We went to on-board computer log books in 1995 (I believe it was). Funny thing? Our drivers LOVED them.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Trucking companies complain no truckers

I guess they'll have to start paying money.

sure, if you find a half way reputable company you can start at $36K your fist year, but the truth is you work for an over-the-road company 24/7.

if you divide 10 to 14 hours per day driving, it's like 6.50 per hour.

For some strange reason we use the Karl Marx plan of per mile, so if a driver is stuck in traffic he gets nothing. More Socialist poison in America.

companies start at .17 cents, .18 cents per mile now.

The max you can drive per day is 11 hours.

I was wondering if anyone would point out that flaw in his whine.

And you can't fudge anymore because a lot of logs are electronic

Indeed. We went to on-board computer log books in 1995 (I believe it was). Funny thing? Our drivers LOVED them.

Im an old fart and don't know that much how they worked. One day a highway patrolman pulled me over and said he couldn't understand my log and was getting all pissy. I told him I really didn't know how they worked either.
Anyway he gave me a ticket for, "inadequate training."
He said this won't cost you any money but it will take points off your driving record.
I never heard of such a thing