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Now you're just showing how ignorant you are. If they had guns, they'd have been able to shoot him from a distance. Without said guns, they were just either trying to escape or being shot... or both. Or do you not think that holding a gun significantly increases your chances of survival? If that's the case, feel free to try protecting your house and family from an armed burglar with your bare hands. I'm sure it'll work out great.It wasn't a No Ninja Zone, or a No Good Guy With Boss Throwing Skills zone. It was a No Gun Zone, and if the people in there were armed, they'd have stopped it.A good guy Ninja couldve stopped it. A good guy with boss throwing skills couldve stopped it. A good guy with a black belt in Wing Chun couldve stopped it.
Anyone with anything COULDVE stopped it
Right and because they werent armed they all decided trying to live isnt worth it? Guns make people brave!
Best way to protect yourself from the rabid violent Liberal Extremist terrorists that have been physically attacking Trump supporters, bloodying them and sending them to the hospital. It would serve one right if he attacked a Trump supporter at the next rally and a concealed carry permit carrying citizen pulled out his weapon in self-defense and shot the thug!It should be mandatory that everyone who attends the Republican National Convention be armed.
Donald Trump Wishes There Had Been More Armed Orlando Clubgoers Shooting Blindly In The Crowded Room
There actually was a security guard with a gun. That didn’t stop the massacre.
Donald Trump, the Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee, believes that if there’d been more people with guns at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, Saturday night, the horrific massacre that resulted in at least 50 people dead wouldn’t have been as bad.
“If you had some guns in that club the night that this took place, if you had guns on the other side, you wouldn’t have had the tragedy that you had,” Trump said in a CNN interview Monday morning.
Trump is pushing the “good guy with a gun” theory, a favorite of groups like the National Rifle Association that want to stop any gun control measures. The argument is that mass shootings can be stopped more quickly if other people have guns and are able to fire back at the shooter.
But as CNN pointed out to Trump, there actually was a good guy with a gun at the Orlando nightclub. As the Los Angeles Times reported:
Orlando Police Chief John Mina said an off-duty police officer working security at the club in uniform traded gunfire with the attacker.
Officials said that after police responded to reports of the violence, the attacker retreated to a bathroom with hostages. Police held back because the attacker made statements about having explosives, they said.
Trump, however, insisted that the answer was simply more people firing guns in dark, crowded nightclubs.
“If you had guns in that room, if you had — even if you had a number of people having them strapped to their ankle or strapped to their waist where bullets could have flown in the other direction right at him, you wouldn’t have had that tragedy,” Trump said.
Attempts by armed civilians to stop mass shooters are incredibly rare — and they often end up being deadly for the well-meaning civilians. It’s also hard in those chaotic, fast-moving situations for untrained civilians to sort out the good guys from the bad guys.
More: Trump: A Good Guy With A Gun Could Have Helped Stop Orlando Massacre
Trump failed to realize, or acknowledge, that there WAS a good guy with a gun there who traded gunfire with the attacker - an off-duty police officer in uniform.
There is no doubt in the mind of reasonable people of average and above intelligence that Donald Trump is both a charlatan and a demagogue. His comments over the past few days have proved this.
Sorry, but 'because you say so' is not good enough. Have a nice day.
I didn't say so, The Donald's own words are sufficient proof those of us of average and above intelligence that he is a demagogue and a charlatan. That you don't understand is likely because you lack the brain power to do so and probably don't know the meaning of demagogue and charlatan.
There wasn't adequate armed security for a gun free zone. It's really that simple.
Only to the simple
Stop with the lamo insults.
It really is not complicated. A gun free zone is of course a soft target. An establishment like Pulse must certainly now look at their security preparedness and review the lack thereof and take measured steps to protect their patrons.
It's a fucking no brainer.
Why won't Republicans allow guns at the Republican National Convention?
Donald Trump Wishes There Had Been More Armed Orlando Clubgoers Shooting Blindly In The Crowded Room
There actually was a security guard with a gun. That didn’t stop the massacre.
Donald Trump, the Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee, believes that if there’d been more people with guns at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, Saturday night, the horrific massacre that resulted in at least 50 people dead wouldn’t have been as bad.
“If you had some guns in that club the night that this took place, if you had guns on the other side, you wouldn’t have had the tragedy that you had,” Trump said in a CNN interview Monday morning.
Trump is pushing the “good guy with a gun” theory, a favorite of groups like the National Rifle Association that want to stop any gun control measures. The argument is that mass shootings can be stopped more quickly if other people have guns and are able to fire back at the shooter.
But as CNN pointed out to Trump, there actually was a good guy with a gun at the Orlando nightclub. As the Los Angeles Times reported:
Orlando Police Chief John Mina said an off-duty police officer working security at the club in uniform traded gunfire with the attacker.
Officials said that after police responded to reports of the violence, the attacker retreated to a bathroom with hostages. Police held back because the attacker made statements about having explosives, they said.
Trump, however, insisted that the answer was simply more people firing guns in dark, crowded nightclubs.
“If you had guns in that room, if you had — even if you had a number of people having them strapped to their ankle or strapped to their waist where bullets could have flown in the other direction right at him, you wouldn’t have had that tragedy,” Trump said.
Attempts by armed civilians to stop mass shooters are incredibly rare — and they often end up being deadly for the well-meaning civilians. It’s also hard in those chaotic, fast-moving situations for untrained civilians to sort out the good guys from the bad guys.
More: Trump: A Good Guy With A Gun Could Have Helped Stop Orlando Massacre
Trump failed to realize, or acknowledge, that there WAS a good guy with a gun there who traded gunfire with the attacker - an off-duty police officer in uniform.
Mr Trump is correct on this issue.
But Florida officials like Angela "the ugly witch" Corey like to scare the bejesus out of Floridians who choose to stand their ground.
.
And there you have it! Someone COULD'VE stopped him with their bare hands unfortunatly this "good guy with a gun" myth pretends that human nature isnt to run away from the trouble. 300 people there couldve mobbed him, they didnt. Having a gun had nothing to do with it
It takes extreme courage to run empty-handed and leap over dead and wounded bodies to take on the terrorist who caused such death and is about to cause more.
on 9/11/01 a group of men knew they would probably die but had an opportunity to save lives by storming a cockpit empty-handed. Despite knowing they could all die they chose to face that threat anyhow.
I am not going to judge anyone else for their decision, but had they chose to take on the terrorist I am sure that SOME could have taken him down. Hard decision to make, though when you have no weapon.
Anyone who says that had someone had a gun in the club they had the opportunity to stop the terrorist that they would not have been able to do it, that it was just a myth is ignorant as hell. Someone with a gun has at least a fighting chance, more so than a bunch of unarmed people.
You don't think someone would have made a difference. Great, that's your opinion....a dumb one, but it's your opinion. Got it.
Saul Alinsky would be proud of you....WRY said 'their is no doubt in MY mind', an obvious OPINION, and then tried to claim 'it wasn't him who said that'. FAIL! And since you have an obvious reading comprehension level problem you should probably just but out and mind your own business.There is no doubt in the mind of reasonable people of average and above intelligence that Donald Trump is both a charlatan and a demagogue. His comments over the past few days have proved this.
Sorry, but 'because you say so' is not good enough. Have a nice day.
I didn't say so, The Donald's own words are sufficient proof those of us of average and above intelligence that he is a demagogue and a charlatan. That you don't understand is likely because you lack the brain power to do so and probably don't know the meaning of demagogue and charlatan.
So, when called on a lack of support for your claim, you double down on by stating your point more strongly and insulting some people.
I stand in awe of your deductive reasoning.
Donald Trump Wishes There Had Been More Armed Orlando Clubgoers Shooting Blindly In The Crowded Room
There actually was a security guard with a gun. That didn’t stop the massacre.
Donald Trump, the Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee, believes that if there’d been more people with guns at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, Saturday night, the horrific massacre that resulted in at least 50 people dead wouldn’t have been as bad.
“If you had some guns in that club the night that this took place, if you had guns on the other side, you wouldn’t have had the tragedy that you had,” Trump said in a CNN interview Monday morning.
Trump is pushing the “good guy with a gun” theory, a favorite of groups like the National Rifle Association that want to stop any gun control measures. The argument is that mass shootings can be stopped more quickly if other people have guns and are able to fire back at the shooter.
But as CNN pointed out to Trump, there actually was a good guy with a gun at the Orlando nightclub. As the Los Angeles Times reported:
Orlando Police Chief John Mina said an off-duty police officer working security at the club in uniform traded gunfire with the attacker.
Officials said that after police responded to reports of the violence, the attacker retreated to a bathroom with hostages. Police held back because the attacker made statements about having explosives, they said.
Trump, however, insisted that the answer was simply more people firing guns in dark, crowded nightclubs.
“If you had guns in that room, if you had — even if you had a number of people having them strapped to their ankle or strapped to their waist where bullets could have flown in the other direction right at him, you wouldn’t have had that tragedy,” Trump said.
Attempts by armed civilians to stop mass shooters are incredibly rare — and they often end up being deadly for the well-meaning civilians. It’s also hard in those chaotic, fast-moving situations for untrained civilians to sort out the good guys from the bad guys.
More: Trump: A Good Guy With A Gun Could Have Helped Stop Orlando Massacre
Trump failed to realize, or acknowledge, that there WAS a good guy with a gun there who traded gunfire with the attacker - an off-duty police officer in uniform.
Mr Trump is correct on this issue.
But Florida officials like Angela "the ugly witch" Corey like to scare the bejesus out of Floridians who choose to stand their ground.
.
Yeah, the club should have been packed with NRA patriots like George Zimmerman.
Donald Trump Wishes There Had Been More Armed Orlando Clubgoers Shooting Blindly In The Crowded Room
There actually was a security guard with a gun. That didn’t stop the massacre.
Donald Trump, the Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee, believes that if there’d been more people with guns at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, Saturday night, the horrific massacre that resulted in at least 50 people dead wouldn’t have been as bad.
“If you had some guns in that club the night that this took place, if you had guns on the other side, you wouldn’t have had the tragedy that you had,” Trump said in a CNN interview Monday morning.
Trump is pushing the “good guy with a gun” theory, a favorite of groups like the National Rifle Association that want to stop any gun control measures. The argument is that mass shootings can be stopped more quickly if other people have guns and are able to fire back at the shooter.
But as CNN pointed out to Trump, there actually was a good guy with a gun at the Orlando nightclub. As the Los Angeles Times reported:
Orlando Police Chief John Mina said an off-duty police officer working security at the club in uniform traded gunfire with the attacker.
Officials said that after police responded to reports of the violence, the attacker retreated to a bathroom with hostages. Police held back because the attacker made statements about having explosives, they said.
Trump, however, insisted that the answer was simply more people firing guns in dark, crowded nightclubs.
“If you had guns in that room, if you had — even if you had a number of people having them strapped to their ankle or strapped to their waist where bullets could have flown in the other direction right at him, you wouldn’t have had that tragedy,” Trump said.
Attempts by armed civilians to stop mass shooters are incredibly rare — and they often end up being deadly for the well-meaning civilians. It’s also hard in those chaotic, fast-moving situations for untrained civilians to sort out the good guys from the bad guys.
More: Trump: A Good Guy With A Gun Could Have Helped Stop Orlando Massacre
Trump failed to realize, or acknowledge, that there WAS a good guy with a gun there who traded gunfire with the attacker - an off-duty police officer in uniform.
Mr Trump is correct on this issue.
But Florida officials like Angela "the ugly witch" Corey like to scare the bejesus out of Floridians who choose to stand their ground.
.
Yeah, the club should have been packed with NRA patriots like George Zimmerman.
Now you're just showing how ignorant you are. If they had guns, they'd have been able to shoot him from a distance. Without said guns, they were just either trying to escape or being shot... or both. Or do you not think that holding a gun significantly increases your chances of survival? If that's the case, feel free to try protecting your house and family from an armed burglar with your bare hands. I'm sure it'll work out great.It wasn't a No Ninja Zone, or a No Good Guy With Boss Throwing Skills zone. It was a No Gun Zone, and if the people in there were armed, they'd have stopped it.A good guy Ninja couldve stopped it. A good guy with boss throwing skills couldve stopped it. A good guy with a black belt in Wing Chun couldve stopped it.
Anyone with anything COULDVE stopped it
Right and because they werent armed they all decided trying to live isnt worth it? Guns make people brave!
Saul Alinsky would be proud of you....WRY said 'their is no doubt in MY mind', an obvious OPINION, and then tried to claim 'it wasn't him who said that'. FAIL! And since you have an obvious reading comprehension level problem you should probably just but out and mind your own business.There is no doubt in the mind of reasonable people of average and above intelligence that Donald Trump is both a charlatan and a demagogue. His comments over the past few days have proved this.
Sorry, but 'because you say so' is not good enough. Have a nice day.
I didn't say so, The Donald's own words are sufficient proof those of us of average and above intelligence that he is a demagogue and a charlatan. That you don't understand is likely because you lack the brain power to do so and probably don't know the meaning of demagogue and charlatan.
So, when called on a lack of support for your claim, you double down on by stating your point more strongly and insulting some people.
I stand in awe of your deductive reasoning.
Now you're just showing how ignorant you are. If they had guns, they'd have been able to shoot him from a distance. Without said guns, they were just either trying to escape or being shot... or both. Or do you not think that holding a gun significantly increases your chances of survival? If that's the case, feel free to try protecting your house and family from an armed burglar with your bare hands. I'm sure it'll work out great.It wasn't a No Ninja Zone, or a No Good Guy With Boss Throwing Skills zone. It was a No Gun Zone, and if the people in there were armed, they'd have stopped it.A good guy Ninja couldve stopped it. A good guy with boss throwing skills couldve stopped it. A good guy with a black belt in Wing Chun couldve stopped it.
Anyone with anything COULDVE stopped it
Right and because they werent armed they all decided trying to live isnt worth it? Guns make people brave!
"IF" a lot of things but you guys arent even considering the fact that some people were more interested in saving themselves than saving everyone.
I mean, could someone with a gun make a difference? Sure. Will they because they have a gun decide to act? No.
COULD THEY? Yes. I mean, if we're playing the anything is possible game then sure!
Donald Trump Wishes There Had Been More Armed Orlando Clubgoers Shooting Blindly In The Crowded Room
There actually was a security guard with a gun. That didn’t stop the massacre.
Donald Trump, the Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee, believes that if there’d been more people with guns at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, Saturday night, the horrific massacre that resulted in at least 50 people dead wouldn’t have been as bad.
“If you had some guns in that club the night that this took place, if you had guns on the other side, you wouldn’t have had the tragedy that you had,” Trump said in a CNN interview Monday morning.
Trump is pushing the “good guy with a gun” theory, a favorite of groups like the National Rifle Association that want to stop any gun control measures. The argument is that mass shootings can be stopped more quickly if other people have guns and are able to fire back at the shooter.
But as CNN pointed out to Trump, there actually was a good guy with a gun at the Orlando nightclub. As the Los Angeles Times reported:
Orlando Police Chief John Mina said an off-duty police officer working security at the club in uniform traded gunfire with the attacker.
Officials said that after police responded to reports of the violence, the attacker retreated to a bathroom with hostages. Police held back because the attacker made statements about having explosives, they said.
Trump, however, insisted that the answer was simply more people firing guns in dark, crowded nightclubs.
“If you had guns in that room, if you had — even if you had a number of people having them strapped to their ankle or strapped to their waist where bullets could have flown in the other direction right at him, you wouldn’t have had that tragedy,” Trump said.
Attempts by armed civilians to stop mass shooters are incredibly rare — and they often end up being deadly for the well-meaning civilians. It’s also hard in those chaotic, fast-moving situations for untrained civilians to sort out the good guys from the bad guys.
More: Trump: A Good Guy With A Gun Could Have Helped Stop Orlando Massacre
Trump failed to realize, or acknowledge, that there WAS a good guy with a gun there who traded gunfire with the attacker - an off-duty police officer in uniform.
Mr Trump is correct on this issue.
But Florida officials like Angela "the ugly witch" Corey like to scare the bejesus out of Floridians who choose to stand their ground.
.
Yeah, the club should have been packed with NRA patriots like George Zimmerman.
George Zimmerman, when attacked was able to shot and kill his attacker.
That would have been a much happier ending to this tragedy.
It would have been HILARIOUS, if George Zimmerman had been there and managed to stop him.
You libs would be claiming that he failed because he didn't save the ones that did die.
You libs would be making homophobic slurs, and being too fucking dim to realize that makes you bigots.
Lord only knows what else stupid and dishonest you lefties would be doing.
Saul Alinsky would be proud of you....WRY said 'their is no doubt in MY mind', an obvious OPINION, and then tried to claim 'it wasn't him who said that'. FAIL! And since you have an obvious reading comprehension level problem you should probably just but out and mind your own business.There is no doubt in the mind of reasonable people of average and above intelligence that Donald Trump is both a charlatan and a demagogue. His comments over the past few days have proved this.
Sorry, but 'because you say so' is not good enough. Have a nice day.
I didn't say so, The Donald's own words are sufficient proof those of us of average and above intelligence that he is a demagogue and a charlatan. That you don't understand is likely because you lack the brain power to do so and probably don't know the meaning of demagogue and charlatan.
So, when called on a lack of support for your claim, you double down on by stating your point more strongly and insulting some people.
I stand in awe of your deductive reasoning.
I think I may have failed my communication attempt.
my ridicule was aimed AT Wry.
My "awe" of his reasoning was meant to be seen as EXTREME SARCASM.
Donald Trump Wishes There Had Been More Armed Orlando Clubgoers Shooting Blindly In The Crowded Room
There actually was a security guard with a gun. That didn’t stop the massacre.
Donald Trump, the Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee, believes that if there’d been more people with guns at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, Saturday night, the horrific massacre that resulted in at least 50 people dead wouldn’t have been as bad.
“If you had some guns in that club the night that this took place, if you had guns on the other side, you wouldn’t have had the tragedy that you had,” Trump said in a CNN interview Monday morning.
Trump is pushing the “good guy with a gun” theory, a favorite of groups like the National Rifle Association that want to stop any gun control measures. The argument is that mass shootings can be stopped more quickly if other people have guns and are able to fire back at the shooter.
But as CNN pointed out to Trump, there actually was a good guy with a gun at the Orlando nightclub. As the Los Angeles Times reported:
Orlando Police Chief John Mina said an off-duty police officer working security at the club in uniform traded gunfire with the attacker.
Officials said that after police responded to reports of the violence, the attacker retreated to a bathroom with hostages. Police held back because the attacker made statements about having explosives, they said.
Trump, however, insisted that the answer was simply more people firing guns in dark, crowded nightclubs.
“If you had guns in that room, if you had — even if you had a number of people having them strapped to their ankle or strapped to their waist where bullets could have flown in the other direction right at him, you wouldn’t have had that tragedy,” Trump said.
Attempts by armed civilians to stop mass shooters are incredibly rare — and they often end up being deadly for the well-meaning civilians. It’s also hard in those chaotic, fast-moving situations for untrained civilians to sort out the good guys from the bad guys.
More: Trump: A Good Guy With A Gun Could Have Helped Stop Orlando Massacre
Trump failed to realize, or acknowledge, that there WAS a good guy with a gun there who traded gunfire with the attacker - an off-duty police officer in uniform.
I wish there had been more "good guys with guns" there too.
Perhaps one of them could have gotten a good shot at the guy before the Death Toll reached 50.
The idea that armed civilians stopping mass shootings being rare, is pretty stupid.
When you consider that mass shootings are rare.
Yeah, it would have been sooo much better with a bunch of NRA gun nuts shooting blindly in the dark.
There is also the high likelihood of a terrorist perpetrating such an act will be wearing full body armor. The "good" citizen would have to be a crack shot on most likely a moving target. Head shots are rare under those circumstances. Unless your "pistol has a laser pointer attached or a scope, going up against the AR15 is stupid. The terrorist was trained with weapons. Your "good" citizen would also need the kind of close in combat training necessary.
Just sayin...
That unarmed teenager, according to his girlfriend who was talking him minutes before the altercation, claimed Martin told her he was 'going to teach this guy a lesson'. In all probability it meant Martin decided to face Zimmerman and 'teach him that lesson'....which didn't work out for him so well.Zimmerman murdered an unarmed teenager walking home with Skittles and iced tea.
Donald Trump Wishes There Had Been More Armed Orlando Clubgoers Shooting Blindly In The Crowded Room
There actually was a security guard with a gun. That didn’t stop the massacre.
Donald Trump, the Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee, believes that if there’d been more people with guns at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, Saturday night, the horrific massacre that resulted in at least 50 people dead wouldn’t have been as bad.
“If you had some guns in that club the night that this took place, if you had guns on the other side, you wouldn’t have had the tragedy that you had,” Trump said in a CNN interview Monday morning.
Trump is pushing the “good guy with a gun” theory, a favorite of groups like the National Rifle Association that want to stop any gun control measures. The argument is that mass shootings can be stopped more quickly if other people have guns and are able to fire back at the shooter.
But as CNN pointed out to Trump, there actually was a good guy with a gun at the Orlando nightclub. As the Los Angeles Times reported:
Orlando Police Chief John Mina said an off-duty police officer working security at the club in uniform traded gunfire with the attacker.
Officials said that after police responded to reports of the violence, the attacker retreated to a bathroom with hostages. Police held back because the attacker made statements about having explosives, they said.
Trump, however, insisted that the answer was simply more people firing guns in dark, crowded nightclubs.
“If you had guns in that room, if you had — even if you had a number of people having them strapped to their ankle or strapped to their waist where bullets could have flown in the other direction right at him, you wouldn’t have had that tragedy,” Trump said.
Attempts by armed civilians to stop mass shooters are incredibly rare — and they often end up being deadly for the well-meaning civilians. It’s also hard in those chaotic, fast-moving situations for untrained civilians to sort out the good guys from the bad guys.
More: Trump: A Good Guy With A Gun Could Have Helped Stop Orlando Massacre
Trump failed to realize, or acknowledge, that there WAS a good guy with a gun there who traded gunfire with the attacker - an off-duty police officer in uniform.
Mr Trump is correct on this issue.
But Florida officials like Angela "the ugly witch" Corey like to scare the bejesus out of Floridians who choose to stand their ground.
.
Yeah, the club should have been packed with NRA patriots like George Zimmerman.
George Zimmerman, when attacked was able to shot and kill his attacker.
That would have been a much happier ending to this tragedy.
It would have been HILARIOUS, if George Zimmerman had been there and managed to stop him.
You libs would be claiming that he failed because he didn't save the ones that did die.
You libs would be making homophobic slurs, and being too fucking dim to realize that makes you bigots.
Lord only knows what else stupid and dishonest you lefties would be doing.
Zimmerman murdered an unarmed teenager walking home with Skittles and iced tea.
Yeah, it would have been sooo much better with a bunch of NRA gun nuts shooting blindly in the dark.
Now you're just showing how ignorant you are. If they had guns, they'd have been able to shoot him from a distance. Without said guns, they were just either trying to escape or being shot... or both. Or do you not think that holding a gun significantly increases your chances of survival? If that's the case, feel free to try protecting your house and family from an armed burglar with your bare hands. I'm sure it'll work out great.It wasn't a No Ninja Zone, or a No Good Guy With Boss Throwing Skills zone. It was a No Gun Zone, and if the people in there were armed, they'd have stopped it.A good guy Ninja couldve stopped it. A good guy with boss throwing skills couldve stopped it. A good guy with a black belt in Wing Chun couldve stopped it.
Anyone with anything COULDVE stopped it
Right and because they werent armed they all decided trying to live isnt worth it? Guns make people brave!
"IF" a lot of things but you guys arent even considering the fact that some people were more interested in saving themselves than saving everyone.
I mean, could someone with a gun make a difference? Sure. Will they because they have a gun decide to act? No.
COULD THEY? Yes. I mean, if we're playing the anything is possible game then sure!
We are playing the anything is possible game.
You lefties are playing WI there was tight gun control.
We righties are playing, WI there was one or more, more guys with guns.
Both are legitimate in discussions of policy.
