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300 people packed into a night club, minus the ones who went down 1st, could have stopped him had they charged the SOB while he reloaded. Human nature being what it is, the self-preservation mode kicking in...A good guy Ninja couldve stopped it. A good guy with boss throwing skills couldve stopped it. A good guy with a black belt in Wing Chun couldve stopped it.
Anyone with anything COULDVE stopped it
There wasn't adequate armed security for a gun free zone. It's really that simple.
There is no doubt in the mind of reasonable people of average and above intelligence that Donald Trump is both a charlatan and a demagogue. His comments over the past few days have proved this.
Sorry, but 'because you say so' is not good enough. Have a nice day.
Donald Trump Wishes There Had Been More Armed Orlando Clubgoers Shooting Blindly In The Crowded Room
There actually was a security guard with a gun. That didn’t stop the massacre.
Donald Trump, the Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee, believes that if there’d been more people with guns at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, Saturday night, the horrific massacre that resulted in at least 50 people dead wouldn’t have been as bad.
“If you had some guns in that club the night that this took place, if you had guns on the other side, you wouldn’t have had the tragedy that you had,” Trump said in a CNN interview Monday morning.
Trump is pushing the “good guy with a gun” theory, a favorite of groups like the National Rifle Association that want to stop any gun control measures. The argument is that mass shootings can be stopped more quickly if other people have guns and are able to fire back at the shooter.
But as CNN pointed out to Trump, there actually was a good guy with a gun at the Orlando nightclub. As the Los Angeles Times reported:
Orlando Police Chief John Mina said an off-duty police officer working security at the club in uniform traded gunfire with the attacker.
Officials said that after police responded to reports of the violence, the attacker retreated to a bathroom with hostages. Police held back because the attacker made statements about having explosives, they said.
Trump, however, insisted that the answer was simply more people firing guns in dark, crowded nightclubs.
“If you had guns in that room, if you had — even if you had a number of people having them strapped to their ankle or strapped to their waist where bullets could have flown in the other direction right at him, you wouldn’t have had that tragedy,” Trump said.
Attempts by armed civilians to stop mass shooters are incredibly rare — and they often end up being deadly for the well-meaning civilians. It’s also hard in those chaotic, fast-moving situations for untrained civilians to sort out the good guys from the bad guys.
More: Trump: A Good Guy With A Gun Could Have Helped Stop Orlando Massacre
Trump failed to realize, or acknowledge, that there WAS a good guy with a gun there who traded gunfire with the attacker - an off-duty police officer in uniform.
I wish there had been more "good guys with guns" there too.
Perhaps one of them could have gotten a good shot at the guy before the Death Toll reached 50.
The idea that armed civilians stopping mass shootings being rare, is pretty stupid.
When you consider that mass shootings are rare.
Yeah, it would have been sooo much better with a bunch of NRA gun nuts shooting blindly in the dark.
And there you have it! Someone COULD'VE stopped him with their bare hands unfortunatly this "good guy with a gun" myth pretends that human nature isnt to run away from the trouble. 300 people there couldve mobbed him, they didnt. Having a gun had nothing to do with it
There is no doubt in the mind of reasonable people of average and above intelligence that Donald Trump is both a charlatan and a demagogue. His comments over the past few days have proved this.
Sorry, but 'because you say so' is not good enough. Have a nice day.
I didn't say so,
There is no doubt in the mind of reasonable people of average and above intelligence that Donald Trump is both a charlatan and a demagogue.
It wasn't a No Ninja Zone, or a No Good Guy With Boss Throwing Skills zone. It was a No Gun Zone, and if the people in there were armed, they'd have stopped it.A good guy Ninja couldve stopped it. A good guy with boss throwing skills couldve stopped it. A good guy with a black belt in Wing Chun couldve stopped it.
Anyone with anything COULDVE stopped it
They would have had a better chance than being 'fish in a barrel'...It wasn't a No Ninja Zone, or a No Good Guy With Boss Throwing Skills zone. It was a No Gun Zone, and if the people in there were armed, they'd have stopped it.A good guy Ninja couldve stopped it. A good guy with boss throwing skills couldve stopped it. A good guy with a black belt in Wing Chun couldve stopped it.
Anyone with anything COULDVE stopped it
There wasn't adequate armed security for a gun free zone. It's really that simple.
Only to the simple
There wasn't adequate armed security for a gun free zone. It's really that simple.
Only to the simple
Stop with the lamo insults.
It really is not complicated. A gun free zone is of course a soft target. An establishment like Pulse must certainly now look at their security preparedness and review the lack thereof and take measured steps to protect their patrons.
It's a fucking no brainer.
Donald Trump Wishes There Had Been More Armed Orlando Clubgoers Shooting Blindly In The Crowded Room
There actually was a security guard with a gun. That didn’t stop the massacre.
Donald Trump, the Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee, believes that if there’d been more people with guns at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, Saturday night, the horrific massacre that resulted in at least 50 people dead wouldn’t have been as bad.
“If you had some guns in that club the night that this took place, if you had guns on the other side, you wouldn’t have had the tragedy that you had,” Trump said in a CNN interview Monday morning.
Trump is pushing the “good guy with a gun” theory, a favorite of groups like the National Rifle Association that want to stop any gun control measures. The argument is that mass shootings can be stopped more quickly if other people have guns and are able to fire back at the shooter.
But as CNN pointed out to Trump, there actually was a good guy with a gun at the Orlando nightclub. As the Los Angeles Times reported:
Orlando Police Chief John Mina said an off-duty police officer working security at the club in uniform traded gunfire with the attacker.
Officials said that after police responded to reports of the violence, the attacker retreated to a bathroom with hostages. Police held back because the attacker made statements about having explosives, they said.
Trump, however, insisted that the answer was simply more people firing guns in dark, crowded nightclubs.
“If you had guns in that room, if you had — even if you had a number of people having them strapped to their ankle or strapped to their waist where bullets could have flown in the other direction right at him, you wouldn’t have had that tragedy,” Trump said.
Attempts by armed civilians to stop mass shooters are incredibly rare — and they often end up being deadly for the well-meaning civilians. It’s also hard in those chaotic, fast-moving situations for untrained civilians to sort out the good guys from the bad guys.
More: Trump: A Good Guy With A Gun Could Have Helped Stop Orlando Massacre
Trump failed to realize, or acknowledge, that there WAS a good guy with a gun there who traded gunfire with the attacker - an off-duty police officer in uniform.
I wish there had been more "good guys with guns" there too.
Perhaps one of them could have gotten a good shot at the guy before the Death Toll reached 50.
The idea that armed civilians stopping mass shootings being rare, is pretty stupid.
When you consider that mass shootings are rare.
Yeah, it would have been sooo much better with a bunch of NRA gun nuts shooting blindly in the dark.
Donald Trump Wishes There Had Been More Armed Orlando Clubgoers Shooting Blindly In The Crowded Room
There actually was a security guard with a gun. That didn’t stop the massacre.
Donald Trump, the Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee, believes that if there’d been more people with guns at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, Saturday night, the horrific massacre that resulted in at least 50 people dead wouldn’t have been as bad.
“If you had some guns in that club the night that this took place, if you had guns on the other side, you wouldn’t have had the tragedy that you had,” Trump said in a CNN interview Monday morning.
Trump is pushing the “good guy with a gun” theory, a favorite of groups like the National Rifle Association that want to stop any gun control measures. The argument is that mass shootings can be stopped more quickly if other people have guns and are able to fire back at the shooter.
But as CNN pointed out to Trump, there actually was a good guy with a gun at the Orlando nightclub. As the Los Angeles Times reported:
Orlando Police Chief John Mina said an off-duty police officer working security at the club in uniform traded gunfire with the attacker.
Officials said that after police responded to reports of the violence, the attacker retreated to a bathroom with hostages. Police held back because the attacker made statements about having explosives, they said.
Trump, however, insisted that the answer was simply more people firing guns in dark, crowded nightclubs.
“If you had guns in that room, if you had — even if you had a number of people having them strapped to their ankle or strapped to their waist where bullets could have flown in the other direction right at him, you wouldn’t have had that tragedy,” Trump said.
Attempts by armed civilians to stop mass shooters are incredibly rare — and they often end up being deadly for the well-meaning civilians. It’s also hard in those chaotic, fast-moving situations for untrained civilians to sort out the good guys from the bad guys.
More: Trump: A Good Guy With A Gun Could Have Helped Stop Orlando Massacre
Trump failed to realize, or acknowledge, that there WAS a good guy with a gun there who traded gunfire with the attacker - an off-duty police officer in uniform.
I wish there had been more "good guys with guns" there too.
Perhaps one of them could have gotten a good shot at the guy before the Death Toll reached 50.
The idea that armed civilians stopping mass shootings being rare, is pretty stupid.
When you consider that mass shootings are rare.
Yeah, it would have been sooo much better with a bunch of NRA gun nuts shooting blindly in the dark.
Yeah, what's up with that? He's kept a completely low profile. Haven't heard a word about him since 7:00 a.m. yesterday. He must feel absolutely awful that he couldn't stop this guy.Let's be honest instead of partisan a-holes....
Had his co-worker or bosses reported him for 'constantly talking about killing people'...
Had the FBI been able to keep surveillance on this guy...
Had the night club not suspended their metal detection at the door (I read...)
Had there been more than one security guard positioned better / more strategically...
Had there been several people (or one, who knows) with legal concealed carry permits and weapons....
This terrorist could have been taken out a lot of different times and different ways along the 'road' to this happening. Trump says one guy with a gun inside the club could have made a difference. Maybe it would have. The jackass stops to reload and you step out, walking towards him, and empty your weapon into his head and chest.....Maybe it doesn't happen.
Claims that it would have helped are speculation.
Claims that it wouldn't are speculation.
Liberals latch on to such speculations and seek to attack as if theirs is 'fact'
Whatever...it's just political rhetoric / BS....
"If 'if's and 'but's were candy and nuts every day would be Christmas."
There WAS a guy with a gun inside the club - a policeman.
It wasn't a No Ninja Zone, or a No Good Guy With Boss Throwing Skills zone. It was a No Gun Zone, and if the people in there were armed, they'd have stopped it.A good guy Ninja couldve stopped it. A good guy with boss throwing skills couldve stopped it. A good guy with a black belt in Wing Chun couldve stopped it.
Anyone with anything COULDVE stopped it
There wasn't adequate armed security for a gun free zone. It's really that simple.
Only to the simple
Stop with the lamo insults.
It really is not complicated. A gun free zone is of course a soft target. An establishment like Pulse must certainly now look at their security preparedness and review the lack thereof and take measured steps to protect their patrons.
It's a fucking no brainer.
Why won't Republicans allow guns at the Republican National Convention?
Let's be honest instead of partisan a-holes....
Had his co-worker or bosses reported him for 'constantly talking about killing people'...
Had the FBI been able to keep surveillance on this guy...
Had the night club not suspended their metal detection at the door (I read...)
Had there been more than one security guard positioned better / more strategically...
Had there been several people (or one, who knows) with legal concealed carry permits and weapons....
This terrorist could have been taken out a lot of different times and different ways along the 'road' to this happening. Trump says one guy with a gun inside the club could have made a difference. Maybe it would have. The jackass stops to reload and you step out, walking towards him, and empty your weapon into his head and chest.....Maybe it doesn't happen.
Claims that it would have helped are speculation.
Claims that it wouldn't are speculation.
Liberals latch on to such speculations and seek to attack as if theirs is 'fact'
Whatever...it's just political rhetoric / BS....
"If 'if's and 'but's were candy and nuts every day would be Christmas."
There WAS a guy with a gun inside the club - a policeman.
Donald Trump Wishes There Had Been More Armed Orlando Clubgoers Shooting Blindly In The Crowded Room
There actually was a security guard with a gun. That didn’t stop the massacre.
Donald Trump, the Republican Party’s presumptive presidential nominee, believes that if there’d been more people with guns at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida, Saturday night, the horrific massacre that resulted in at least 50 people dead wouldn’t have been as bad.
“If you had some guns in that club the night that this took place, if you had guns on the other side, you wouldn’t have had the tragedy that you had,” Trump said in a CNN interview Monday morning.
Trump is pushing the “good guy with a gun” theory, a favorite of groups like the National Rifle Association that want to stop any gun control measures. The argument is that mass shootings can be stopped more quickly if other people have guns and are able to fire back at the shooter.
But as CNN pointed out to Trump, there actually was a good guy with a gun at the Orlando nightclub. As the Los Angeles Times reported:
Orlando Police Chief John Mina said an off-duty police officer working security at the club in uniform traded gunfire with the attacker.
Officials said that after police responded to reports of the violence, the attacker retreated to a bathroom with hostages. Police held back because the attacker made statements about having explosives, they said.
Trump, however, insisted that the answer was simply more people firing guns in dark, crowded nightclubs.
“If you had guns in that room, if you had — even if you had a number of people having them strapped to their ankle or strapped to their waist where bullets could have flown in the other direction right at him, you wouldn’t have had that tragedy,” Trump said.
Attempts by armed civilians to stop mass shooters are incredibly rare — and they often end up being deadly for the well-meaning civilians. It’s also hard in those chaotic, fast-moving situations for untrained civilians to sort out the good guys from the bad guys.
More: Trump: A Good Guy With A Gun Could Have Helped Stop Orlando Massacre
Trump failed to realize, or acknowledge, that there WAS a good guy with a gun there who traded gunfire with the attacker - an off-duty police officer in uniform.
There is no doubt in the mind of reasonable people of average and above intelligence that Donald Trump is both a charlatan and a demagogue. His comments over the past few days have proved this.
He probably does since the last report I read was that he was DEAD! (I can NOT confirm that he is dead, but what is confirmed is...) The 1st shot reportedly fired was the terrorist at the policeman there.Yeah, what's up with that? He's kept a completely low profile. Haven't heard a word about him since 7:00 a.m. yesterday. He must feel absolutely awful that he couldn't stop this guy.Let's be honest instead of partisan a-holes....
Had his co-worker or bosses reported him for 'constantly talking about killing people'...
Had the FBI been able to keep surveillance on this guy...
Had the night club not suspended their metal detection at the door (I read...)
Had there been more than one security guard positioned better / more strategically...
Had there been several people (or one, who knows) with legal concealed carry permits and weapons....
This terrorist could have been taken out a lot of different times and different ways along the 'road' to this happening. Trump says one guy with a gun inside the club could have made a difference. Maybe it would have. The jackass stops to reload and you step out, walking towards him, and empty your weapon into his head and chest.....Maybe it doesn't happen.
Claims that it would have helped are speculation.
Claims that it wouldn't are speculation.
Liberals latch on to such speculations and seek to attack as if theirs is 'fact'
Whatever...it's just political rhetoric / BS....
"If 'if's and 'but's were candy and nuts every day would be Christmas."
There WAS a guy with a gun inside the club - a policeman.
