Trump is a Shameless, Anti Gay Bigot and this Crusade by His State Department Proves it

[Stann]

Homosexuality heterosexuality and bisexuality are sexual orientations; all are normal. Sexual deviants or perverts are people who are engaged in odd and/or dangerous sexual practices such as pedophilia, bestiality or necrophilia.

That is the truth.

 

[Indeependent]

Homosexuality heterosexuality and bisexuality are sexual orientations; all are normal. Sexual deviants or perverts are people who are engaged in odd and/or dangerous sexual practices such as pedophilia, bestiality or necrophilia.

Sexual deviancy is becoming the norm.

 

[Stann]

Sexual deviancy is becoming the norm.

Let's hope not, we don't need any more pedophile Christians running around molesting our children.

 

[Indeependent]

Let's hope not, we don't need any more pedophile Christians running around molesting our children.

It’s too late.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Homosexuality heterosexuality and bisexuality are sexual orientations; all are normal. Sexual deviants or perverts are people who are engaged in odd and/or dangerous sexual practices such as pedophilia, bestiality or necrophilia.

You're wasting your time trying to reason with https://www.usmessageboard.com/members/bob-blaylock.55534/

 

[Stann]

You're wasting your time trying to reason with https://www.usmessageboard.com/members/bob-blaylock.55534/

I understand, but I'm hoping by using reason I can get through to at least one of these characters. It's terrible to live one's life based on lies. There are way too many lies out there.

 

[Mac-7]

This would never happen to a heterosexual couple regardless of whether they are both the biological parents.

Was the child born in the US?

The answer seems to be no

I dont know all the rules for foreign born children but they apply equally to homosexuals and straight

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

JESUS you spin a bunch of shit...the State Department treated this situation exactly as they would have anyone else. The child has a biological AND BIRTHING mother and a biological father. Two sperm donors can't create a child. Every child has an egg donor, BIRTHING MOTHER, and sperm donor. In this case, the egg donor/BIRTHING PARENT is a BRIT citizen, and the Sperm donor is a dual citizen who hasn't been here in over 5 years before the child was born. The mother and father of this child---aren't married to each other. The father, only a 1/2 citizen of the US who hadn't been here the necessary time to convey citizenship to his child, makes the child like any other child in this circumstance would be--the citizen of the country that she was born in and that her parents are members of---BRITIAN. The judge is fucked in the head....the plaything of the gay father of the child is not the child birth or biological mother so therefore irrevlent.

PS Only one parent of a married couple must be a citizen to convey citizenship to the child. And only one needs to be a biological parent . In this case, the amount of time that the Britt was in this country is a moot point asn it would be if her were not a citizen. The State Dept. did not recognise their marriage. It not the judge who is fucked in the head

Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship by a Child Born Abroad

Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship by a Child Born Abroad

travel.state.gov

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Was the child born in the US?

The answer seems to be no

I dont know all the rules for foreign born children but they apply equally to homosexuals and straight

See post 208. \The Sate Department did not reccognise their legal marriage. The rules due apply equally- but they were not APPLIED equally in this case

 

[Turtlesoup]

No they diid not treat them as any other couple. Had they been an opposite sex couple and had a child in the UK under the same circumstances there would have been no question of citizenship > And I don't need a lesson from you on biology. They are married and they are both legal parents. And what is this 1/2 citizen bullshit? They are both citizens as per the op

Did you even bother to read your own article....they state quit clearly. The FATHER is a dual citizen who hasn't been to the US in the 5 years before the child was born---he can not convey US citizenship to the child automatically. (YOU DO UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF NOT HAVING BEEN TO THE US WITHIN THE 5 YEARS OF BIRTH from a DUAL CITIZEN, right?) The mother is a BRITISH citizen----she can not convey citizenship to the child at all. The gay spouse with no biological ties is meaningless.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Did you even bother to read your own article....they state quit clearly. The FATHER is a dual citizen who hasn't been to the US in the 5 years before the child was born---he can not convey US citizenship to the child automatically. (YOU DO UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF NOT HAVING BEEN TO THE US WITHIN THE 5 YEARS OF BIRTH from a DUAL CITIZEN, right?) The mother is a BRITISH citizen----she can not convey citizenship to the child at all. The gay spouse with no biological ties is meaningless.

I read it and unlike you I understood it. The conveyance of citizenship is NOT dependant on the status op the Brit. Try to gasp this:

The Brit is the biological parent BUT he is married to the American Citizen ,. Do you get that? "Married"! The American who has always lived here is the one to convey citizenship. Read the link in post 208, then scratch your head real hard to try to comprehend what happened there. The State dept. failed to recognise the marriage and THAT is the issue. To bad that you see the need to struggle so hard to justify the dennial of citizenship to the child of two gay men. Get over it.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The State Department is in the executive branch. The Secretary of State reports to Trump

So what? Do yu honestlythink every decision goes to Trump?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

So what? Do yu honestlythink every decision goes to Trump?

No but he sets the tone. He may or may not have been aware of this situation, but he should have been, especially after the court case was filed. Do YOU honestly think that he would have intervened on the side of the gay couple? He wont dare offend his bigoted base.

 

[donttread]

Why should it be news? Happens all the time. They used a surrogate. They are both legal parents.The link is still good

That was a little sarcastic joke. I can't get the link to open for me is all I'm saying. But how much time do you think the president devoted to denying this child citizenship?

 

[Turtlesoup]

PS Only one parent of a married couple must be a citizen to convey citizenship to the child. And only one needs to be a biological parent . In this case, the amount of time that the Britt was in this country is a moot point asn it would be if her were not a citizen. The State Dept. did not recognise their marriage. It not the judge who is fucked in the head

Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship by a Child Born Abroad

Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship by a Child Born Abroad

travel.state.gov

Go tell that to the article.....even after reading it, you still didn't get a hint about it specifically mentioning the circumstances of the father. It's sperm donor could not convey citizenship automatically.

The child did not get automatic citizenship from its sperm donor........and it was treated as everyone else. The woke fucked up judge ignored our laws to play its agenda....

Is your child a U.S. citizen if born abroad?

The 2001 Child Citizenship Act aimed to simplify the process of granting citizenship to the foreign-born children of American citizens.

www.legalzoom.com

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

That was a little sarcastic joke. I can't get the link to open for me is all I'm saying. But how much time do you think the president devoted to denying this child citizenship?

How much time did he devote to helping this child gain citizenship?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Go tell that to the article.....even after reading it, you still didn't get a hint about it specifically mentioning the circumstances of the father. It's sperm donor could not convey citizenship automatically.

The child did not get automatic citizenship from its sperm donor........and it was treated as everyone else. The woke fucked up judge ignored our laws to play its agenda....

Is your child a U.S. citizen if born abroad?

The 2001 Child Citizenship Act aimed to simplify the process of granting citizenship to the foreign-born children of American citizens.

www.legalzoom.com

Just how fucking stupid are you? From your own link:

Now, a child who is under the age of 18, was born outside the U.S., and has at least one U.S. citizen parent automatically acquires U.S. citizenship upon entry into the country as an immigrant.

You seem to be in denial of the fact that BOTH MEN are legal parents becaue they are MARRIED. It does not matter who the sperm donor is. It is not about biology., You apparently are havining trouble accepting the fact that since the SCOTUS Windsor and Obergefell rullings, the federal government reccognises same sex marriages and that the presumption of parrenthood rule applies just as it does with heterosexual couples. The Sate Dept, INCORRECTLY dw=etermind that the child was born out of wedlock. What part of that are you unable to process?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

PS Only one parent of a married couple must be a citizen to convey citizenship to the child. And only one needs to be a biological parent . In this case, the amount of time that the Britt was in this country is a moot point asn it would be if her were not a citizen. The State Dept. did not recognise their marriage. It not the judge who is fucked in the head

Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship by a Child Born Abroad

Acquisition of U.S. Citizenship by a Child Born Abroad

travel.state.gov

Who is this child's mother, and what is her citizenship?

Who is this child's father, and what is his citizenship?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

I read it and unlike you I understood it. The conveyance of citizenship is NOT dependant [sic] on the status op the Brit. Try to gasp this:

The Brit is the biological parent BUT he is married to the American Citizen ,. Do you get that? "Married"! The American who has always lived here is the one to convey citizenship. Read the link in post 208, then scratch your head real hard to try to comprehend what happened there. The State dept. failed to recognise the marriage and THAT is the issue. To bad that you see the need to struggle so hard to justify the dennial [sic] of citizenship to the child of two gay men. Get over it.

There is no such thing as a “marriage” between two men. There never has been, and there never will be.

No government can make such a thing valid, any more than any government can cause two plus two to equal ten.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

There is no such thing as a “marriage” between two men. There never has been, and there never will be.

No government can make such a thing valid, any more than any government can cause two plus two to equal ten.

When you're crowned king of the universe you can make such a pronouncment. Until then it is just hot air