Trump: Largest Debt per year by any President

[NotYourBody]

If one cannot identify TO WHOM a so-called "debt" is owed, then one cannot actually claim that there is any "debt" existing.

So far, no one in this thread has done that. As far as what this thread has produced, there could be no debt at all.

Okay, not sure why you never learned to use the Google machine, but here it is.

Here’s who owns a record $21.21 trillion of U.S. debt

"American institutions such as private and state pension funds as well as individual investors were the biggest holders. They owned $6.89 trillion in debt and absorbed about four-fifths of the increase over the past year."

"Foreigners, led by the Chinese and Japanese, owned $6.21 trillion. Those two countries have cut their stakes since 2015, but each country still owns more than $1 trillion worth of Treasury bonds and notes."

"The U.S. government, for its part, owned $5.73 trillion in debt, mostly via Social Security and federal pension funds."

"The Federal Reserve owned $2.38 trillion in debt, but it trimmed its holdings by $85 billion since June 2017."

 

[Redfish]

If one cannot identify TO WHOM a so-called "debt" is owed, then one cannot actually claim that there is any "debt" existing.

So far, no one in this thread has done that. As far as what this thread has produced, there could be no debt at all.

Okay, not sure why you never learned to use the Google machine, but here it is.

Here’s who owns a record $21.21 trillion of U.S. debt

"American institutions such as private and state pension funds as well as individual investors were the biggest holders. They owned $6.89 trillion in debt and absorbed about four-fifths of the increase over the past year."

"Foreigners, led by the Chinese and Japanese, owned $6.21 trillion. Those two countries have cut their stakes since 2015, but each country still owns more than $1 trillion worth of Treasury bonds and notes."

"The U.S. government, for its part, owned $5.73 trillion in debt, mostly via Social Security and federal pension funds."

"The Federal Reserve owned $2.38 trillion in debt, but it trimmed its holdings by $85 billion since June 2017."

good chart, thanks for posting it.

So if the USA were to declare bankruptcy in some future year, what would happen? Probably nothing since none of it is real money.

 

[NotYourBody]

It is hilarious to see these stupid uneducated Moon Bats, that never said a word about Obama's ten trillion dollar debt that didn't get us jackshit, bitch about the debt created by the international pandemic.

We hit trillion dollar deficits long before the pandemic.

Thanks to the Magic Kenyan....

Haha. Trump policy increased deficits. Thank the tax cuts and space force.

Tax cuts increased revenue. The issue is spending and entitlements. Again, are you elderly?

No they didn’t. The revenue growth was our weakest when not in recession. Try to stick to facts. You really want to think someone elderly is handing you your ass? Repubs shouldn’t insult the elderly, it’s almost your whole party.

Bullshit. More lies. LMAO Are you elderly? Yes or no?

That's it...you nailed it...Brain must be old...maybe 70 or 80 or 90?...they have different agendas than the rest of us that are still at it and not sitting and waiting for a SSI check...and crying that its not enough...which its not....but that goes without saying....

You insult elderly but voted trump? Your stupidity is impressive.

I insulted no one...but maybe you a few times....don't be too offended Brain...its just the way it is....

Your too stupid to insult me. I simply laugh at your lies and stupidity.

No no you’re pretty dumb

Says the guy who thinks he benefits from consumer confidence more than actual gdp growth. Now that is really dumb.

For my job I do. Why wouldn't I? Consumers drive the economy. Are you elderly? Why won't you answer?

Do you know what consumer confidence is? Learn some economics.

Do you? Why won't you answer my question? Are you elderly? How does GDP impact my ability to pay my mortgage? Please explain

You are correlating a macroeconomic problem with a microeconomic problem

Not at all. I am correlating what is best for Azog. And that is Trump as President.

You can't seem to define that very well grandpa. I asked what specific regulation cuts helped you and you went silent. You seem to think slow economic growth and high deficits is good for you. Please explain.

I did. I'll give you an example. I had a client who wanted to expand his facility and under Obama, he would have needed a certain window here, a certain door there, certain SF here and there and it was impossible. Trump got rid of all that and that company was able to expand. That is one.

Now answer me. Are you elderly and you are correct, IDGAF about you.

haha doors and windows were going to stop expansion? Oh that is funny. Do share what the specific regulation is that trump eliminated.

I've answered you several times now gramps. Stop repeating yourself old man.

I have answered you. Yes, doors, windows, exits. Look it up. Are you going to answer me or not? I am 39. You?

That's not very specific. Link to some information about this specific regulation. You aren't very honest so it sounds like you are making something up again.

Now I am liar? You’re not worth my time. I could Not have been any more specific. You are a grumpy old stupid man. Enjoy talking to yourself.

I gave up on his old ass too....he lies...and he is an angry man...

Trump supporters acting like old is a bad thing. This is too funny.

Tik tok tik tok...cannot buy youth. You would trade everything in the world to be 39 again but you cannot. You’re stuck being a miserable old stupid man with a rough case of TDS.

So facts to you are miserable and old. That is funny. Explains a lot, you certainly avoid facts.

Born 10/14/80. You? LoL
You won’t answer.

I was born way before your hero trump. haha So if I'm old and miserable what does that say about trump? Haha

That he is younger than you....

Bingo!!!

The country is shut down and you think you are winning. What a loser.

Check the polls dummy.....

Check them for what? The country hasn't been in worse shape in my lifetime.

How was it during Prohibition when you were a young man?

hahaha I wouldn't know. Your guy Trump would?

Poor old man. Tsk tsk tsk. Hey at least you can freely pee in women’s bathrooms now. Your long dream has finally been achieved.

Sure kid, let me know when you get out of that diaper.

Why are you discussing kids in diapers? LMAO. You hate me because I am a capitalist. Boo hoo. I do not hide it. I am a selfish capitalist. Sue me, old man.

I'm far more a capitalist than you kid. You think trumps tariffs are good capitalism? You want the government dictating trade? And that's good capitalism. You are a socialist like trump, don't kid yourself.

I want Small Govt and I want Leftists to shut their mouths and not tell me that a biological man can identify as a woman. The fact that I have to say that is mind boggling. I want Our entitlements revamped but you old farts whine how it’s “your money” and just want to tax the “rich” who in actuality already pay most of the taxes.

Leftists actually don't care what you think about transgender people. We've all moved on. It's your type who are still agonizing over other people's genitalia and trying to pretend this is still an issue.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

It is hilarious to see these stupid uneducated Moon Bats, that never said a word about Obama's ten trillion dollar debt that didn't get us jackshit, bitch about the debt created by the international pandemic.

We hit trillion dollar deficits long before the pandemic.

Thanks to the Magic Kenyan....

Haha. Trump policy increased deficits. Thank the tax cuts and space force.

Tax cuts increased revenue. The issue is spending and entitlements. Again, are you elderly?

No they didn’t. The revenue growth was our weakest when not in recession. Try to stick to facts. You really want to think someone elderly is handing you your ass? Repubs shouldn’t insult the elderly, it’s almost your whole party.

Bullshit. More lies. LMAO Are you elderly? Yes or no?

That's it...you nailed it...Brain must be old...maybe 70 or 80 or 90?...they have different agendas than the rest of us that are still at it and not sitting and waiting for a SSI check...and crying that its not enough...which its not....but that goes without saying....

You insult elderly but voted trump? Your stupidity is impressive.

I insulted no one...but maybe you a few times....don't be too offended Brain...its just the way it is....

Your too stupid to insult me. I simply laugh at your lies and stupidity.

No no you’re pretty dumb

Says the guy who thinks he benefits from consumer confidence more than actual gdp growth. Now that is really dumb.

For my job I do. Why wouldn't I? Consumers drive the economy. Are you elderly? Why won't you answer?

Do you know what consumer confidence is? Learn some economics.

Do you? Why won't you answer my question? Are you elderly? How does GDP impact my ability to pay my mortgage? Please explain

You are correlating a macroeconomic problem with a microeconomic problem

Not at all. I am correlating what is best for Azog. And that is Trump as President.

You can't seem to define that very well grandpa. I asked what specific regulation cuts helped you and you went silent. You seem to think slow economic growth and high deficits is good for you. Please explain.

I did. I'll give you an example. I had a client who wanted to expand his facility and under Obama, he would have needed a certain window here, a certain door there, certain SF here and there and it was impossible. Trump got rid of all that and that company was able to expand. That is one.

Now answer me. Are you elderly and you are correct, IDGAF about you.

haha doors and windows were going to stop expansion? Oh that is funny. Do share what the specific regulation is that trump eliminated.

I've answered you several times now gramps. Stop repeating yourself old man.

I have answered you. Yes, doors, windows, exits. Look it up. Are you going to answer me or not? I am 39. You?

That's not very specific. Link to some information about this specific regulation. You aren't very honest so it sounds like you are making something up again.

Now I am liar? You’re not worth my time. I could Not have been any more specific. You are a grumpy old stupid man. Enjoy talking to yourself.

I gave up on his old ass too....he lies...and he is an angry man...

Trump supporters acting like old is a bad thing. This is too funny.

Tik tok tik tok...cannot buy youth. You would trade everything in the world to be 39 again but you cannot. You’re stuck being a miserable old stupid man with a rough case of TDS.

So facts to you are miserable and old. That is funny. Explains a lot, you certainly avoid facts.

Born 10/14/80. You? LoL
You won’t answer.

I was born way before your hero trump. haha So if I'm old and miserable what does that say about trump? Haha

That he is younger than you....

Bingo!!!

The country is shut down and you think you are winning. What a loser.

Check the polls dummy.....

Check them for what? The country hasn't been in worse shape in my lifetime.

How was it during Prohibition when you were a young man?

hahaha I wouldn't know. Your guy Trump would?

Poor old man. Tsk tsk tsk. Hey at least you can freely pee in women’s bathrooms now. Your long dream has finally been achieved.

Sure kid, let me know when you get out of that diaper.

Why are you discussing kids in diapers? LMAO. You hate me because I am a capitalist. Boo hoo. I do not hide it. I am a selfish capitalist. Sue me, old man.

I'm far more a capitalist than you kid. You think trumps tariffs are good capitalism? You want the government dictating trade? And that's good capitalism. You are a socialist like trump, don't kid yourself.

I want Small Govt and I want Leftists to shut their mouths and not tell me that a biological man can identify as a woman. The fact that I have to say that is mind boggling. I want Our entitlements revamped but you old farts whine how it’s “your money” and just want to tax the “rich” who in actuality already pay most of the taxes.

Leftists actually don't care what you think about transgender people. We've all moved on. It's your type who are still agonizing over other people's genitalia and trying to pretend this is still an issue.

Yeah, that is the problem. They don't care. They think its OK for biological boys to play contact sports vs. girls. They are insane people. You're case in point. It is an issue when I live it. Dumbass.

 

[NotYourBody]

If one cannot identify TO WHOM a so-called "debt" is owed, then one cannot actually claim that there is any "debt" existing.

So far, no one in this thread has done that. As far as what this thread has produced, there could be no debt at all.

Okay, not sure why you never learned to use the Google machine, but here it is.

Here’s who owns a record $21.21 trillion of U.S. debt

"American institutions such as private and state pension funds as well as individual investors were the biggest holders. They owned $6.89 trillion in debt and absorbed about four-fifths of the increase over the past year."

"Foreigners, led by the Chinese and Japanese, owned $6.21 trillion. Those two countries have cut their stakes since 2015, but each country still owns more than $1 trillion worth of Treasury bonds and notes."

"The U.S. government, for its part, owned $5.73 trillion in debt, mostly via Social Security and federal pension funds."

"The Federal Reserve owned $2.38 trillion in debt, but it trimmed its holdings by $85 billion since June 2017."

good chart, thanks for posting it.

So if the USA were to declare bankruptcy in some future year, what would happen? Probably nothing since none of it is real money.

Oh gosh, I can't help you with this level of stupid. Sorry.

 

[Redfish]

It is hilarious to see these stupid uneducated Moon Bats, that never said a word about Obama's ten trillion dollar debt that didn't get us jackshit, bitch about the debt created by the international pandemic.

We hit trillion dollar deficits long before the pandemic.

Thanks to the Magic Kenyan....

Haha. Trump policy increased deficits. Thank the tax cuts and space force.

Tax cuts increased revenue. The issue is spending and entitlements. Again, are you elderly?

No they didn’t. The revenue growth was our weakest when not in recession. Try to stick to facts. You really want to think someone elderly is handing you your ass? Repubs shouldn’t insult the elderly, it’s almost your whole party.

Bullshit. More lies. LMAO Are you elderly? Yes or no?

That's it...you nailed it...Brain must be old...maybe 70 or 80 or 90?...they have different agendas than the rest of us that are still at it and not sitting and waiting for a SSI check...and crying that its not enough...which its not....but that goes without saying....

You insult elderly but voted trump? Your stupidity is impressive.

I insulted no one...but maybe you a few times....don't be too offended Brain...its just the way it is....

Your too stupid to insult me. I simply laugh at your lies and stupidity.

No no you’re pretty dumb

Says the guy who thinks he benefits from consumer confidence more than actual gdp growth. Now that is really dumb.

For my job I do. Why wouldn't I? Consumers drive the economy. Are you elderly? Why won't you answer?

Do you know what consumer confidence is? Learn some economics.

Do you? Why won't you answer my question? Are you elderly? How does GDP impact my ability to pay my mortgage? Please explain

You are correlating a macroeconomic problem with a microeconomic problem

Not at all. I am correlating what is best for Azog. And that is Trump as President.

You can't seem to define that very well grandpa. I asked what specific regulation cuts helped you and you went silent. You seem to think slow economic growth and high deficits is good for you. Please explain.

I did. I'll give you an example. I had a client who wanted to expand his facility and under Obama, he would have needed a certain window here, a certain door there, certain SF here and there and it was impossible. Trump got rid of all that and that company was able to expand. That is one.

Now answer me. Are you elderly and you are correct, IDGAF about you.

haha doors and windows were going to stop expansion? Oh that is funny. Do share what the specific regulation is that trump eliminated.

I've answered you several times now gramps. Stop repeating yourself old man.

I have answered you. Yes, doors, windows, exits. Look it up. Are you going to answer me or not? I am 39. You?

That's not very specific. Link to some information about this specific regulation. You aren't very honest so it sounds like you are making something up again.

Now I am liar? You’re not worth my time. I could Not have been any more specific. You are a grumpy old stupid man. Enjoy talking to yourself.

I gave up on his old ass too....he lies...and he is an angry man...

Trump supporters acting like old is a bad thing. This is too funny.

Tik tok tik tok...cannot buy youth. You would trade everything in the world to be 39 again but you cannot. You’re stuck being a miserable old stupid man with a rough case of TDS.

So facts to you are miserable and old. That is funny. Explains a lot, you certainly avoid facts.

Born 10/14/80. You? LoL
You won’t answer.

I was born way before your hero trump. haha So if I'm old and miserable what does that say about trump? Haha

That he is younger than you....

Bingo!!!

The country is shut down and you think you are winning. What a loser.

Check the polls dummy.....

Check them for what? The country hasn't been in worse shape in my lifetime.

How was it during Prohibition when you were a young man?

hahaha I wouldn't know. Your guy Trump would?

Poor old man. Tsk tsk tsk. Hey at least you can freely pee in women’s bathrooms now. Your long dream has finally been achieved.

Sure kid, let me know when you get out of that diaper.

Why are you discussing kids in diapers? LMAO. You hate me because I am a capitalist. Boo hoo. I do not hide it. I am a selfish capitalist. Sue me, old man.

I'm far more a capitalist than you kid. You think trumps tariffs are good capitalism? You want the government dictating trade? And that's good capitalism. You are a socialist like trump, don't kid yourself.

I want Small Govt and I want Leftists to shut their mouths and not tell me that a biological man can identify as a woman. The fact that I have to say that is mind boggling. I want Our entitlements revamped but you old farts whine how it’s “your money” and just want to tax the “rich” who in actuality already pay most of the taxes.

Leftists actually don't care what you think about transgender people. We've all moved on. It's your type who are still agonizing over other people's genitalia and trying to pretend this is still an issue.

so the dem mandate that Biden pick a minority female as his running mate confirms what you just posted???? I don't think so. But I forgot you already had Michael Obama as first lady

 

[Redfish]

If one cannot identify TO WHOM a so-called "debt" is owed, then one cannot actually claim that there is any "debt" existing.

So far, no one in this thread has done that. As far as what this thread has produced, there could be no debt at all.

Okay, not sure why you never learned to use the Google machine, but here it is.

Here’s who owns a record $21.21 trillion of U.S. debt

"American institutions such as private and state pension funds as well as individual investors were the biggest holders. They owned $6.89 trillion in debt and absorbed about four-fifths of the increase over the past year."

"Foreigners, led by the Chinese and Japanese, owned $6.21 trillion. Those two countries have cut their stakes since 2015, but each country still owns more than $1 trillion worth of Treasury bonds and notes."

"The U.S. government, for its part, owned $5.73 trillion in debt, mostly via Social Security and federal pension funds."

"The Federal Reserve owned $2.38 trillion in debt, but it trimmed its holdings by $85 billion since June 2017."

good chart, thanks for posting it.

So if the USA were to declare bankruptcy in some future year, what would happen? Probably nothing since none of it is real money.

Oh gosh, I can't help you with this level of stupid. Sorry.

do you think its real money? Do you actually think we are going to pay the Chinese back? don't be so ignorant. do you think the US bond holders are ever going to paid anything except interest? Your naivete is amazing.

 

[NotYourBody]

It is hilarious to see these stupid uneducated Moon Bats, that never said a word about Obama's ten trillion dollar debt that didn't get us jackshit, bitch about the debt created by the international pandemic.

We hit trillion dollar deficits long before the pandemic.

Thanks to the Magic Kenyan....

Haha. Trump policy increased deficits. Thank the tax cuts and space force.

Tax cuts increased revenue. The issue is spending and entitlements. Again, are you elderly?

No they didn’t. The revenue growth was our weakest when not in recession. Try to stick to facts. You really want to think someone elderly is handing you your ass? Repubs shouldn’t insult the elderly, it’s almost your whole party.

Bullshit. More lies. LMAO Are you elderly? Yes or no?

That's it...you nailed it...Brain must be old...maybe 70 or 80 or 90?...they have different agendas than the rest of us that are still at it and not sitting and waiting for a SSI check...and crying that its not enough...which its not....but that goes without saying....

You insult elderly but voted trump? Your stupidity is impressive.

I insulted no one...but maybe you a few times....don't be too offended Brain...its just the way it is....

Your too stupid to insult me. I simply laugh at your lies and stupidity.

No no you’re pretty dumb

Says the guy who thinks he benefits from consumer confidence more than actual gdp growth. Now that is really dumb.

For my job I do. Why wouldn't I? Consumers drive the economy. Are you elderly? Why won't you answer?

Do you know what consumer confidence is? Learn some economics.

Do you? Why won't you answer my question? Are you elderly? How does GDP impact my ability to pay my mortgage? Please explain

You are correlating a macroeconomic problem with a microeconomic problem

Not at all. I am correlating what is best for Azog. And that is Trump as President.

You can't seem to define that very well grandpa. I asked what specific regulation cuts helped you and you went silent. You seem to think slow economic growth and high deficits is good for you. Please explain.

I did. I'll give you an example. I had a client who wanted to expand his facility and under Obama, he would have needed a certain window here, a certain door there, certain SF here and there and it was impossible. Trump got rid of all that and that company was able to expand. That is one.

Now answer me. Are you elderly and you are correct, IDGAF about you.

haha doors and windows were going to stop expansion? Oh that is funny. Do share what the specific regulation is that trump eliminated.

I've answered you several times now gramps. Stop repeating yourself old man.

I have answered you. Yes, doors, windows, exits. Look it up. Are you going to answer me or not? I am 39. You?

That's not very specific. Link to some information about this specific regulation. You aren't very honest so it sounds like you are making something up again.

Now I am liar? You’re not worth my time. I could Not have been any more specific. You are a grumpy old stupid man. Enjoy talking to yourself.

I gave up on his old ass too....he lies...and he is an angry man...

Trump supporters acting like old is a bad thing. This is too funny.

Tik tok tik tok...cannot buy youth. You would trade everything in the world to be 39 again but you cannot. You’re stuck being a miserable old stupid man with a rough case of TDS.

So facts to you are miserable and old. That is funny. Explains a lot, you certainly avoid facts.

Born 10/14/80. You? LoL
You won’t answer.

I was born way before your hero trump. haha So if I'm old and miserable what does that say about trump? Haha

That he is younger than you....

Bingo!!!

The country is shut down and you think you are winning. What a loser.

Check the polls dummy.....

Check them for what? The country hasn't been in worse shape in my lifetime.

How was it during Prohibition when you were a young man?

hahaha I wouldn't know. Your guy Trump would?

Poor old man. Tsk tsk tsk. Hey at least you can freely pee in women’s bathrooms now. Your long dream has finally been achieved.

Sure kid, let me know when you get out of that diaper.

Why are you discussing kids in diapers? LMAO. You hate me because I am a capitalist. Boo hoo. I do not hide it. I am a selfish capitalist. Sue me, old man.

I'm far more a capitalist than you kid. You think trumps tariffs are good capitalism? You want the government dictating trade? And that's good capitalism. You are a socialist like trump, don't kid yourself.

I want Small Govt and I want Leftists to shut their mouths and not tell me that a biological man can identify as a woman. The fact that I have to say that is mind boggling. I want Our entitlements revamped but you old farts whine how it’s “your money” and just want to tax the “rich” who in actuality already pay most of the taxes.

Leftists actually don't care what you think about transgender people. We've all moved on. It's your type who are still agonizing over other people's genitalia and trying to pretend this is still an issue.

Yeah, that is the problem. They don't care. They think its OK for biological boys to play contact sports vs. girls. They are insane people. You're case in point. It is an issue when I live it. Dumbass.

I dgaf about kids sports. Girls have been fighting for decades to be included in boys sports leagues. Just stop with your phony outrage.

Doesn't your type prefer women in the kitchen anyway?

 

[NotYourBody]

If one cannot identify TO WHOM a so-called "debt" is owed, then one cannot actually claim that there is any "debt" existing.

So far, no one in this thread has done that. As far as what this thread has produced, there could be no debt at all.

Okay, not sure why you never learned to use the Google machine, but here it is.

Here’s who owns a record $21.21 trillion of U.S. debt

"American institutions such as private and state pension funds as well as individual investors were the biggest holders. They owned $6.89 trillion in debt and absorbed about four-fifths of the increase over the past year."

"Foreigners, led by the Chinese and Japanese, owned $6.21 trillion. Those two countries have cut their stakes since 2015, but each country still owns more than $1 trillion worth of Treasury bonds and notes."

"The U.S. government, for its part, owned $5.73 trillion in debt, mostly via Social Security and federal pension funds."

"The Federal Reserve owned $2.38 trillion in debt, but it trimmed its holdings by $85 billion since June 2017."

good chart, thanks for posting it.

So if the USA were to declare bankruptcy in some future year, what would happen? Probably nothing since none of it is real money.

Oh gosh, I can't help you with this level of stupid. Sorry.

do you think its real money? Do you actually think we are going to pay the Chinese back? don't be so ignorant. do you think the US bond holders are ever going to paid anything except interest? Your naivete is amazing.

I cashed some US bonds last month. They paid me in real money. Face value plus interest. You lie. Or you are stupid. Or perhaps Russian.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Trump pledged to eliminate the deficit and reduce our national debt if elected. Instead, he has accumulated debt at a record pace. Doesn’t even include his recent borrowing of $2.2 trillion

US Debt by President: Dollar and Percentage

Depending on how you measure it, different presidents have added to the national debt. Check out how the national debt has increased by year and president.

www.thebalance.com

Bush 43: $.725 trillion

Obama: $ 1.075 trillion

Trump: $1.2 trillion

/----/ Still waiting for the democRATs balanced budget - they are the ones who control spending, not the president.

 

[Faun]

Trump pledged to eliminate the deficit and reduce our national debt if elected. Instead, he has accumulated debt at a record pace. Doesn’t even include his recent borrowing of $2.2 trillion

US Debt by President: Dollar and Percentage

Depending on how you measure it, different presidents have added to the national debt. Check out how the national debt has increased by year and president.

www.thebalance.com

Bush 43: $.725 trillion

Obama: $ 1.075 trillion

Trump: $1.2 trillion

This fiscal year is only half over and the deficit for FY2020 is already up to $1.5 trillion.

 

[protectionist]

It is hilarious to see these stupid uneducated Moon Bats, that never said a word about Obama's ten trillion dollar debt that didn't get us jackshit, bitch about the debt created by the international pandemic.

We hit trillion dollar deficits long before the pandemic.

Thanks to the Magic Kenyan....

Haha. Trump policy increased deficits. Thank the tax cuts and space force.

Tax cuts increased revenue. The issue is spending and entitlements. Again, are you elderly?

No they didn’t. The revenue growth was our weakest when not in recession. Try to stick to facts. You really want to think someone elderly is handing you your ass? Repubs shouldn’t insult the elderly, it’s almost your whole party.

Bullshit. More lies. LMAO Are you elderly? Yes or no?

That's it...you nailed it...Brain must be old...maybe 70 or 80 or 90?...they have different agendas than the rest of us that are still at it and not sitting and waiting for a SSI check...and crying that its not enough...which its not....but that goes without saying....

You insult elderly but voted trump? Your stupidity is impressive.

I insulted no one...but maybe you a few times....don't be too offended Brain...its just the way it is....

Your too stupid to insult me. I simply laugh at your lies and stupidity.

No no you’re pretty dumb

Says the guy who thinks he benefits from consumer confidence more than actual gdp growth. Now that is really dumb.

For my job I do. Why wouldn't I? Consumers drive the economy. Are you elderly? Why won't you answer?

Do you know what consumer confidence is? Learn some economics.

Do you? Why won't you answer my question? Are you elderly? How does GDP impact my ability to pay my mortgage? Please explain

You are correlating a macroeconomic problem with a microeconomic problem

Not at all. I am correlating what is best for Azog. And that is Trump as President.

You can't seem to define that very well grandpa. I asked what specific regulation cuts helped you and you went silent. You seem to think slow economic growth and high deficits is good for you. Please explain.

I did. I'll give you an example. I had a client who wanted to expand his facility and under Obama, he would have needed a certain window here, a certain door there, certain SF here and there and it was impossible. Trump got rid of all that and that company was able to expand. That is one.

Now answer me. Are you elderly and you are correct, IDGAF about you.

haha doors and windows were going to stop expansion? Oh that is funny. Do share what the specific regulation is that trump eliminated.

I've answered you several times now gramps. Stop repeating yourself old man.

I have answered you. Yes, doors, windows, exits. Look it up. Are you going to answer me or not? I am 39. You?

That's not very specific. Link to some information about this specific regulation. You aren't very honest so it sounds like you are making something up again.

Now I am liar? You’re not worth my time. I could Not have been any more specific. You are a grumpy old stupid man. Enjoy talking to yourself.

I gave up on his old ass too....he lies...and he is an angry man...

Trump supporters acting like old is a bad thing. This is too funny.

Tik tok tik tok...cannot buy youth. You would trade everything in the world to be 39 again but you cannot. You’re stuck being a miserable old stupid man with a rough case of TDS.

So facts to you are miserable and old. That is funny. Explains a lot, you certainly avoid facts.

Born 10/14/80. You? LoL
You won’t answer.

I was born way before your hero trump. haha So if I'm old and miserable what does that say about trump? Haha

That he is younger than you....

Bingo!!!

The country is shut down and you think you are winning. What a loser.

Check the polls dummy.....

Check them for what? The country hasn't been in worse shape in my lifetime.

How was it during Prohibition when you were a young man?

hahaha I wouldn't know. Your guy Trump would?

Poor old man. Tsk tsk tsk. Hey at least you can freely pee in women’s bathrooms now. Your long dream has finally been achieved.

Sure kid, let me know when you get out of that diaper.

Why are you discussing kids in diapers? LMAO. You hate me because I am a capitalist. Boo hoo. I do not hide it. I am a selfish capitalist. Sue me, old man.

I'm far more a capitalist than you kid. You think trumps tariffs are good capitalism? You want the government dictating trade? And that's good capitalism. You are a socialist like trump, don't kid yourself.

I want Small Govt and I want Leftists to shut their mouths and not tell me that a biological man can identify as a woman. The fact that I have to say that is mind boggling. I want Our entitlements revamped but you old farts whine how it’s “your money” and just want to tax the “rich” who in actuality already pay most of the taxes.

Leftists actually don't care what you think about transgender people. We've all moved on. It's your type who are still agonizing over other people's genitalia and trying to pretend this is still an issue.

This is an example of how detatched from reality leftist loons are. They create false notions, tell each they're correct, and then walk around being nuts to the core.

This birdbrain has "moved on" all right - convinced himself that transgender is fully normal and acceptable. These people belong in insane asylums.

EARTH to NYB:. There is no such thing as "transgender". If you're born a male, you are a male until you die. If you're born a female, you are that until you die. Same thing applies to the sex perverts calling themselves "gay".

 

[Faun]

Trump pledged to eliminate the deficit and reduce our national debt if elected. Instead, he has accumulated debt at a record pace. Doesn’t even include his recent borrowing of $2.2 trillion

US Debt by President: Dollar and Percentage

Depending on how you measure it, different presidents have added to the national debt. Check out how the national debt has increased by year and president.

www.thebalance.com

Bush 43: $.725 trillion

Obama: $ 1.075 trillion

Trump: $1.2 trillion

/----/ Still waiting for the democRATs balanced budget - they are the ones who control spending, not the president.

They don't have one -- and neither do the Republicans who spent 8 years bashing Obama for increasing the debt.

Now Republicans have their own fearless Impeached leader who's on pace to increase the debt even more than Obama.

 

[NotYourBody]

It is hilarious to see these stupid uneducated Moon Bats, that never said a word about Obama's ten trillion dollar debt that didn't get us jackshit, bitch about the debt created by the international pandemic.

We hit trillion dollar deficits long before the pandemic.

Thanks to the Magic Kenyan....

Haha. Trump policy increased deficits. Thank the tax cuts and space force.

Tax cuts increased revenue. The issue is spending and entitlements. Again, are you elderly?

No they didn’t. The revenue growth was our weakest when not in recession. Try to stick to facts. You really want to think someone elderly is handing you your ass? Repubs shouldn’t insult the elderly, it’s almost your whole party.

Bullshit. More lies. LMAO Are you elderly? Yes or no?

That's it...you nailed it...Brain must be old...maybe 70 or 80 or 90?...they have different agendas than the rest of us that are still at it and not sitting and waiting for a SSI check...and crying that its not enough...which its not....but that goes without saying....

You insult elderly but voted trump? Your stupidity is impressive.

I insulted no one...but maybe you a few times....don't be too offended Brain...its just the way it is....

Your too stupid to insult me. I simply laugh at your lies and stupidity.

No no you’re pretty dumb

Says the guy who thinks he benefits from consumer confidence more than actual gdp growth. Now that is really dumb.

For my job I do. Why wouldn't I? Consumers drive the economy. Are you elderly? Why won't you answer?

Do you know what consumer confidence is? Learn some economics.

Do you? Why won't you answer my question? Are you elderly? How does GDP impact my ability to pay my mortgage? Please explain

You are correlating a macroeconomic problem with a microeconomic problem

Not at all. I am correlating what is best for Azog. And that is Trump as President.

You can't seem to define that very well grandpa. I asked what specific regulation cuts helped you and you went silent. You seem to think slow economic growth and high deficits is good for you. Please explain.

I did. I'll give you an example. I had a client who wanted to expand his facility and under Obama, he would have needed a certain window here, a certain door there, certain SF here and there and it was impossible. Trump got rid of all that and that company was able to expand. That is one.

Now answer me. Are you elderly and you are correct, IDGAF about you.

haha doors and windows were going to stop expansion? Oh that is funny. Do share what the specific regulation is that trump eliminated.

I've answered you several times now gramps. Stop repeating yourself old man.

I have answered you. Yes, doors, windows, exits. Look it up. Are you going to answer me or not? I am 39. You?

That's not very specific. Link to some information about this specific regulation. You aren't very honest so it sounds like you are making something up again.

Now I am liar? You’re not worth my time. I could Not have been any more specific. You are a grumpy old stupid man. Enjoy talking to yourself.

I gave up on his old ass too....he lies...and he is an angry man...

Trump supporters acting like old is a bad thing. This is too funny.

Tik tok tik tok...cannot buy youth. You would trade everything in the world to be 39 again but you cannot. You’re stuck being a miserable old stupid man with a rough case of TDS.

So facts to you are miserable and old. That is funny. Explains a lot, you certainly avoid facts.

Born 10/14/80. You? LoL
You won’t answer.

I was born way before your hero trump. haha So if I'm old and miserable what does that say about trump? Haha

That he is younger than you....

Bingo!!!

The country is shut down and you think you are winning. What a loser.

Check the polls dummy.....

Check them for what? The country hasn't been in worse shape in my lifetime.

How was it during Prohibition when you were a young man?

hahaha I wouldn't know. Your guy Trump would?

Poor old man. Tsk tsk tsk. Hey at least you can freely pee in women’s bathrooms now. Your long dream has finally been achieved.

Sure kid, let me know when you get out of that diaper.

Why are you discussing kids in diapers? LMAO. You hate me because I am a capitalist. Boo hoo. I do not hide it. I am a selfish capitalist. Sue me, old man.

I'm far more a capitalist than you kid. You think trumps tariffs are good capitalism? You want the government dictating trade? And that's good capitalism. You are a socialist like trump, don't kid yourself.

I want Small Govt and I want Leftists to shut their mouths and not tell me that a biological man can identify as a woman. The fact that I have to say that is mind boggling. I want Our entitlements revamped but you old farts whine how it’s “your money” and just want to tax the “rich” who in actuality already pay most of the taxes.

You want small govt but you promote trump? You think huge deficits means smaller govt? You think more govt control of trade is smaller govt? You are a big government socialist like trump is capitalist disguise.

I promote Trump because Leftists are ruining this country and my life. Now they can feel what I feel. Tell me again how Israel is evil and we should be tolerant toward radical Islamists, which they elect into Congress. Left has gone insane and I did not care but being a father, I care. And they can fuck off.

Such a victim you are, with your poor ruined life.

Talk about a snowflake.

 

[Redfish]

If one cannot identify TO WHOM a so-called "debt" is owed, then one cannot actually claim that there is any "debt" existing.

So far, no one in this thread has done that. As far as what this thread has produced, there could be no debt at all.

Okay, not sure why you never learned to use the Google machine, but here it is.

Here’s who owns a record $21.21 trillion of U.S. debt

"American institutions such as private and state pension funds as well as individual investors were the biggest holders. They owned $6.89 trillion in debt and absorbed about four-fifths of the increase over the past year."

"Foreigners, led by the Chinese and Japanese, owned $6.21 trillion. Those two countries have cut their stakes since 2015, but each country still owns more than $1 trillion worth of Treasury bonds and notes."

"The U.S. government, for its part, owned $5.73 trillion in debt, mostly via Social Security and federal pension funds."

"The Federal Reserve owned $2.38 trillion in debt, but it trimmed its holdings by $85 billion since June 2017."

good chart, thanks for posting it.

So if the USA were to declare bankruptcy in some future year, what would happen? Probably nothing since none of it is real money.

Oh gosh, I can't help you with this level of stupid. Sorry.

do you think its real money? Do you actually think we are going to pay the Chinese back? don't be so ignorant. do you think the US bond holders are ever going to paid anything except interest? Your naivete is amazing.

I cashed some US bonds last month. They paid me in real money. Face value plus interest. You lie. Or you are stupid. Or perhaps Russian.

I am not talking about savings bonds bought by individuals. i am talking about huge US treasury notes bought by big investment firms and foreign countries. Your $25 savings bond hardly makes a difference in the national debt, but I'm glad you cashed out, now you can buy a couple of six packs for the quarantine.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Trump pledged to eliminate the deficit and reduce our national debt if elected. Instead, he has accumulated debt at a record pace. Doesn’t even include his recent borrowing of $2.2 trillion

US Debt by President: Dollar and Percentage

Depending on how you measure it, different presidents have added to the national debt. Check out how the national debt has increased by year and president.

www.thebalance.com

Bush 43: $.725 trillion

Obama: $ 1.075 trillion

Trump: $1.2 trillion

/----/ Still waiting for the democRATs balanced budget - they are the ones who control spending, not the president.

They don't have one -- and neither do the Republicans who spent 8 years bashing Obama for increasing the debt.

Now Republicans have their own fearless Impeached leader who's on pace to increase the debt even more than Obama.

/——/ The President can’t spend any money only Congress can. Why do you give them a pass?

 

[Shrimpbox]

That's why its called a crises....but you know that...you are just gas lighting your ass off.....when this is over the people will thank the president...mark my words....

It's "crisis".

And he happily signed the massive spending bill (and applauded himself for it), LONG BEFORE the crisis.

I know talk radio doesn't cover that, but it's true.

A spending bill he was able to get passed Pelosi and get her signature on it.....we have a congress....and they hold the check book....we had to rebuild our military after the wasted Obama years and we just had to restock our pandemic supplies left empty by Obama after his pandemic.....the cupboards were left bare in all categories by the magic Kenyan....
Socialism was an expensive venture....I hope we never try that again...

Where is the thank you button?

 

[NotYourBody]

If one cannot identify TO WHOM a so-called "debt" is owed, then one cannot actually claim that there is any "debt" existing.

So far, no one in this thread has done that. As far as what this thread has produced, there could be no debt at all.

Okay, not sure why you never learned to use the Google machine, but here it is.

Here’s who owns a record $21.21 trillion of U.S. debt

"American institutions such as private and state pension funds as well as individual investors were the biggest holders. They owned $6.89 trillion in debt and absorbed about four-fifths of the increase over the past year."

"Foreigners, led by the Chinese and Japanese, owned $6.21 trillion. Those two countries have cut their stakes since 2015, but each country still owns more than $1 trillion worth of Treasury bonds and notes."

"The U.S. government, for its part, owned $5.73 trillion in debt, mostly via Social Security and federal pension funds."

"The Federal Reserve owned $2.38 trillion in debt, but it trimmed its holdings by $85 billion since June 2017."

good chart, thanks for posting it.

So if the USA were to declare bankruptcy in some future year, what would happen? Probably nothing since none of it is real money.

Oh gosh, I can't help you with this level of stupid. Sorry.

do you think its real money? Do you actually think we are going to pay the Chinese back? don't be so ignorant. do you think the US bond holders are ever going to paid anything except interest? Your naivete is amazing.

I cashed some US bonds last month. They paid me in real money. Face value plus interest. You lie. Or you are stupid. Or perhaps Russian.

I am not talking about savings bonds bought by individuals. i am talking about huge US treasury notes bought by big investment firms and foreign countries. Your $25 savings bond hardly makes a difference in the national debt, but I'm glad you cashed out, now you can buy a couple of six packs for the quarantine.

I responded to what you wrote. If you can't make yourself clear, that's on you. You are stupid to think if the US declared bankruptcy, nothing would happen because it's not real money.

You are just a troll. I'll probably have to put you on ignore-due-to-ignorance.

 

[Faun]

That's why its called a crisis....but you know that...you are just gas lighting your ass off.....when this is over the people will thank the president...mark my words....

Maybe, maybe not. As of now, not so much...

 

[Redfish]

If one cannot identify TO WHOM a so-called "debt" is owed, then one cannot actually claim that there is any "debt" existing.

So far, no one in this thread has done that. As far as what this thread has produced, there could be no debt at all.

Okay, not sure why you never learned to use the Google machine, but here it is.

Here’s who owns a record $21.21 trillion of U.S. debt

"American institutions such as private and state pension funds as well as individual investors were the biggest holders. They owned $6.89 trillion in debt and absorbed about four-fifths of the increase over the past year."

"Foreigners, led by the Chinese and Japanese, owned $6.21 trillion. Those two countries have cut their stakes since 2015, but each country still owns more than $1 trillion worth of Treasury bonds and notes."

"The U.S. government, for its part, owned $5.73 trillion in debt, mostly via Social Security and federal pension funds."

"The Federal Reserve owned $2.38 trillion in debt, but it trimmed its holdings by $85 billion since June 2017."

good chart, thanks for posting it.

So if the USA were to declare bankruptcy in some future year, what would happen? Probably nothing since none of it is real money.

Oh gosh, I can't help you with this level of stupid. Sorry.

do you think its real money? Do you actually think we are going to pay the Chinese back? don't be so ignorant. do you think the US bond holders are ever going to paid anything except interest? Your naivete is amazing.

I cashed some US bonds last month. They paid me in real money. Face value plus interest. You lie. Or you are stupid. Or perhaps Russian.

I am not talking about savings bonds bought by individuals. i am talking about huge US treasury notes bought by big investment firms and foreign countries. Your $25 savings bond hardly makes a difference in the national debt, but I'm glad you cashed out, now you can buy a couple of six packs for the quarantine.

I responded to what you wrote. If you can't make yourself clear, that's on you. You are stupid to think if the US declared bankruptcy, nothing would happen because it's not real money.

You are just a troll. I'll probably have to put you on ignore-due-to-ignorance.

LOL, go for it if you cannot stand dealing with rational thought and facts. So tell me what exactly you think would happen if the US declared bankruptcy. Would we give China title to some US land? Geez dude, try to think before posting.