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If they lied, they should be caught. What makes you think they lied, though?Did the judges make the wrong decision or did the fbi lie to get what they wanted?If anyone feels the FISA judges made the wrong decisions signing those warrants, isn't there already a body that can review the judges' decisions and determine if they did wrong? Why do we have to make this a public spectacle? What would releasing the documents "prove" to the public?Now that the Democrats care about transparency, it's time to actually be transparent. How these clowns can claim that separate and distinct from the salacious and unverified dossier they had credible evidence that Trump camp was conspiring with the RUSSIANS, is beyond me. But let's do this, let's see what the evidence is because they have spent hours defending the basis for their snoop operation.
I heard they were "spying" on individuals in the Trump campaign, begun by a Trump staffer who bragged he had an inside track to the Russian powers that be. Is that wrong?And if they lie and call you a spy so they can get warrants to spy on you?I'm really down on allowing our spooks to keep a close eye on the spies saturating our country. They do not wish us well.No there isn't, which is another reason that makes the entire FISA process an abomination.If anyone feels the FISA judges made the wrong decisions signing those warrants, isn't there already a body that can review the judges' decisions and determine if they did wrong?
It would prove that FISA needs to be abolished altogether...You really down with a super-secret "court" that can issue warrants on the say-so of only one side?Why do we have to make this a public spectacle? What would releasing the documents "prove" to the public?
You good there?
SIGH?!?...Is that the best you can come up with?sighYeah, and who is going to file any complaints, when the process is totally secret?Okay, I googled it since it seemed strange that any judge would be totally unaccountable.
The FISC is composed of federal judges appointed by the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, and its decisions can be reviewed by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Review (FISCR) and the Supreme Court.
who can review FISA decisions - Google Search
That staffer (Popadopolous) was spoon fed the information that led him to believe he had the "inside track", by the very people who wanted to use his bragging as a pretext for the warrants....He was set up as a patsy.I heard they were "spying" on individuals in the Trump campaign, begun by a Trump staffer who bragged he had an inside track to the Russian powers that be. Is that wrong?
/---/ Old Lady's award should come with a gold leaf cluster.With blind bootlicking stupidity like this, I weep for my country.I'm really down on allowing our spooks to keep a close eye on the spies saturating our country. They do not wish us well.
You're today's award winner....
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How do you appeal when you have no idea that a warrant has been issued to spy on you?Fisa* in fact has a Court of Review that can be appealed to. But appealing after the fact would do nothing
You are an opponent of the FISA court. I get it.SIGH?!?...Is that the best you can come up with?sighYeah, and who is going to file any complaints, when the process is totally secret?Okay, I googled it since it seemed strange that any judge would be totally unaccountable.
The FISC is composed of federal judges appointed by the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, and its decisions can be reviewed by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Review (FISCR) and the Supreme Court.
who can review FISA decisions - Google Search
FISA is a super-secret star chamber, that goes against every precept of common law and presumption of innocence....Any alleged "oversight" is meaningless and toothless window dressing.
What you don't get is that it is the Murican version of the fucking STASI...And you're all for it, like a good little slave.You are an opponent of the FISA court. I get it.
papadopoulos - yea. the one he was giving info to was an FBI agent who kept pushing him to make that type of a statement to begin with.I heard they were "spying" on individuals in the Trump campaign, begun by a Trump staffer who bragged he had an inside track to the Russian powers that be. Is that wrong?And if they lie and call you a spy so they can get warrants to spy on you?I'm really down on allowing our spooks to keep a close eye on the spies saturating our country. They do not wish us well.No there isn't, which is another reason that makes the entire FISA process an abomination.If anyone feels the FISA judges made the wrong decisions signing those warrants, isn't there already a body that can review the judges' decisions and determine if they did wrong?
It would prove that FISA needs to be abolished altogether...You really down with a super-secret "court" that can issue warrants on the say-so of only one side?Why do we have to make this a public spectacle? What would releasing the documents "prove" to the public?
You good there?
No the staffer was that kid who got drunk in a bar overseas and was overheard...I can't remember his name.That staffer (Popadopolous) was spoon fed the information that led him to believe he had the "inside track", by the very people who wanted to use his bragging as a pretext for the warrants....He was set up as a patsy.I heard they were "spying" on individuals in the Trump campaign, begun by a Trump staffer who bragged he had an inside track to the Russian powers that be. Is that wrong?
How do you appeal when you have no idea that a warrant has been issued to spy on you?Fisa* in fact has a Court of Review that can be appealed to. But appealing after the fact would do nothing
It was Papadopoulos, you dingbat.No the staffer was that kid who got drunk in a bar overseas and was overheard...I can't remember his name.That staffer (Popadopolous) was spoon fed the information that led him to believe he had the "inside track", by the very people who wanted to use his bragging as a pretext for the warrants....He was set up as a patsy.I heard they were "spying" on individuals in the Trump campaign, begun by a Trump staffer who bragged he had an inside track to the Russian powers that be. Is that wrong?
If I am working for a campaign for Pres of the US, and I brag about having contacts with Putin's oligarchs, I'll expect to be spied on.papadopoulos - yea. the one he was giving info to was an FBI agent who kept pushing him to make that type of a statement to begin with.I heard they were "spying" on individuals in the Trump campaign, begun by a Trump staffer who bragged he had an inside track to the Russian powers that be. Is that wrong?And if they lie and call you a spy so they can get warrants to spy on you?I'm really down on allowing our spooks to keep a close eye on the spies saturating our country. They do not wish us well.No there isn't, which is another reason that makes the entire FISA process an abomination.If anyone feels the FISA judges made the wrong decisions signing those warrants, isn't there already a body that can review the judges' decisions and determine if they did wrong?
It would prove that FISA needs to be abolished altogether...You really down with a super-secret "court" that can issue warrants on the say-so of only one side?Why do we have to make this a public spectacle? What would releasing the documents "prove" to the public?
You good there?
we still good here? again if ok to do to him, then it's an ok action to do to us all.
If they lied, they should be caught. What makes you think they lied, though?Did the judges make the wrong decision or did the fbi lie to get what they wanted?If anyone feels the FISA judges made the wrong decisions signing those warrants, isn't there already a body that can review the judges' decisions and determine if they did wrong? Why do we have to make this a public spectacle? What would releasing the documents "prove" to the public?Now that the Democrats care about transparency, it's time to actually be transparent. How these clowns can claim that separate and distinct from the salacious and unverified dossier they had credible evidence that Trump camp was conspiring with the RUSSIANS, is beyond me. But let's do this, let's see what the evidence is because they have spent hours defending the basis for their snoop operation.
Thanks.It was Papadopoulos, you dingbat.No the staffer was that kid who got drunk in a bar overseas and was overheard...I can't remember his name.That staffer (Popadopolous) was spoon fed the information that led him to believe he had the "inside track", by the very people who wanted to use his bragging as a pretext for the warrants....He was set up as a patsy.I heard they were "spying" on individuals in the Trump campaign, begun by a Trump staffer who bragged he had an inside track to the Russian powers that be. Is that wrong?
Link pleasepapadopoulos - yea. the one he was giving info to was an FBI agent who kept pushing him to make that type of a statement to begin with.I heard they were "spying" on individuals in the Trump campaign, begun by a Trump staffer who bragged he had an inside track to the Russian powers that be. Is that wrong?And if they lie and call you a spy so they can get warrants to spy on you?I'm really down on allowing our spooks to keep a close eye on the spies saturating our country. They do not wish us well.No there isn't, which is another reason that makes the entire FISA process an abomination.If anyone feels the FISA judges made the wrong decisions signing those warrants, isn't there already a body that can review the judges' decisions and determine if they did wrong?
It would prove that FISA needs to be abolished altogether...You really down with a super-secret "court" that can issue warrants on the say-so of only one side?Why do we have to make this a public spectacle? What would releasing the documents "prove" to the public?
You good there?
we still good here? again if ok to do to him, then it's an ok action to do to us all.
That would matter if the Dossier was the sole or even most important evidence provided to get a FISA warrant on Page. It was neither. And again. Why do we care ? Page was not even a member of the Trump campaign at that pointIf they lied, they should be caught. What makes you think they lied, though?Did the judges make the wrong decision or did the fbi lie to get what they wanted?If anyone feels the FISA judges made the wrong decisions signing those warrants, isn't there already a body that can review the judges' decisions and determine if they did wrong? Why do we have to make this a public spectacle? What would releasing the documents "prove" to the public?Now that the Democrats care about transparency, it's time to actually be transparent. How these clowns can claim that separate and distinct from the salacious and unverified dossier they had credible evidence that Trump camp was conspiring with the RUSSIANS, is beyond me. But let's do this, let's see what the evidence is because they have spent hours defending the basis for their snoop operation.
5 Things The FBI Never Told The FISA Court About The Trump Dossier
now before raining down on the source, please just read these (5) things and ask yourself if this should have been told to a FISA judge who is giving them the ability to spy on people.
