Trump pulling out of Paris Climate Accord

If you think we need some agreement with other countries to tell us what to do and how to do it, you're the stupid one. You want America to be like that guy with a good paying job that patrons a bar. Everybody runs up to him shaking his hand, giving him a hug, knowing he will buy them drinks all night long because he has the money.

Our country is 20 trillion dollars in debt. We are broke. Do you know what the word "broke" means? Broke means no money. Broke means in debt. Broke means failure. Why you leftists would choose failure all the time is beyond any reasonable persons ability to understand.

We can't afford to spend God knows how many billions (of money we don't have) on some stupid fairy tale like MMGW. You on the left always tell us to keep our religion in our church or at home, you should do the same with your beliefs. Don't involve our country in your stupid religion. If you want to lower your idiotic carbon footprint, buy a bike and ride it everywhere you go. Buy a windmill for your backyard. Take the bus everywhere you need to go. And in a hundred years from now, you can sit back and enjoy that .02% of cooler air.

God you people are dense.

In reality nobody is telling us anything Ray. We are the leader of this world not a dumb follower.
Taking about debt------- Since when you care about debt? Trump is wasting millions just by golfing, security and travel expenses of his family.
How about those small business that lost income every time he goes to Maralago?

Again are you saying that 7 out of 10 of Americans,CEOs, Conoco, Exxon etc etc etc blasting dumb Trump are all belong to the left are dense?
You are very wrong Ray.

Did you just get to this country or what?

Policies and politics changes with mood and vote of the people. We don't want some big-eared clown making policy that we can't get out of in the future. DumBama is gone, and Trump is trying to De-Bama the country.

When we voted the last several elections, we voted for change; not just change of the players, but change in the politics as well. We gave Republicans leadership of the Congress. We gave Republicans leadership of the Senate. We recently gave Republicans the White House. Why? Because we don't want Democrat policies anymore, and Democrat policies should not continue we we vote in Republican leadership.

Signing on to this Paris Accord gives Democrats the power over our environment no matter who is in leadership in the future. Trump rightfully stopped that. If the country wants change (as we do now) then we should not be bound by some stupid agreement that stops such change.

Yes, we are the leader of the world, and our leader is saying we act independently on this issue.

I get it. When Obama was President you had a freaking fit when he used EOs or negotiated agreements & here you re cheering when El Dumpster does it.

How much shit has your orange hero done against popular opinion & on his own.

What is El Cheeto's polling? How many people agree with his shit?

According to you, he shoulds not do any of this shit.

He lost the popular vote so most Americans don't want his fat ass anywhere near the White House.


I get it. When Obama was President you had a freaking fit when he used EOs or negotiated agreements & here you re cheering when El Dumpster does it.

Right. The difference is what Obama was signing for his cronyism vs. what Trump is signing to free up the nation again and get us moving forward!

How much shit has your orange hero done against popular opinion & on his own. What is El Cheeto's polling? How many people agree with his shit?

Apparently more than you think. Apparently more than the polls tell. Kind of like before the election! Who gives a crap what popular opinion is? The average person on the street can't even find Canada on a map and they get their "popular opinion" from hack sources like the MSM run by democrats.

He lost the popular vote so most Americans don't want his fat ass anywhere near the White House.

Funny, last I checked, he won the presidency! He won 30 out of 50 states! He won 306 electoral college votes to Hillary's only 232. He won 200 counties that had previously voted for Obama! The only people who don't want Trump in the Whitehouse are jackass liberals like you, democrats in Washington, and the millions of illegal aliens the democrats helped to vote for Hillary. But don't you worry, voter ID, voter fraud, and the illegal alien issue are all going to get addressed, and these are the mainstay of the democratic platform!!!

Given an open, honest, fair and legal platform, the democrats would lose every time. They only win what they do by suppressing information, lying, cheating, and steering the media to heavily favor and support them.
I'm sorry. But when your orange worthless, lying pussy grabbing, business cheat, POS Trump has Kushner & Ivanka in the White House, nominated DeVos, Pruitt, Sessions, etc involved in key programs, You don't ever get to complain about cronyism again.
so no family members as advisors or special jobs? That the precedent you want to set? I guess leftists should shutup since bill had Hillary doing a job and Obama had his mother in law in the WH. We were paying for her room and board! Holy fuck!
Off with all their heads!
 
They are choking to death right now.

They aren't choking on CO2.

:happy-1::happy-1::happy-1:
:clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2:

This proves you and your buddy Todd don't know what in the world what this topic is all about.
Yes they are not choking with CO2 but the emissions are releasing to the atmosphere is dangerous to the earth. And Coal industry is one of the culprits.
China just shut down 103 of their coal plants is a good progress. At the same time they are going after their factories of air pollutants and smogs.

Yes they are not choking with CO2 but the emissions are releasing to the atmosphere is dangerous to the earth. And Coal industry is one of the culprits.

Yes, they should spend their money cleaning up their dangerous emissions and stop wasting it on CO2 reduction.
Of course, based on their non-commitments under the Paris accords, they already decided not to waste their money on CO2 reduction, eh?

China just shut down 103 of their coal plants is a good progress

They shut down 103 plants that were generating power? Are you sure?
They were planned & cancelled.

Thanks, I noticed his error too.
They did shut down the plans to build them. Dipstick.
 
In reality nobody is telling us anything Ray. We are the leader of this world not a dumb follower.
Taking about debt------- Since when you care about debt? Trump is wasting millions just by golfing, security and travel expenses of his family.
How about those small business that lost income every time he goes to Maralago?

Again are you saying that 7 out of 10 of Americans,CEOs, Conoco, Exxon etc etc etc blasting dumb Trump are all belong to the left are dense?
You are very wrong Ray.

Did you just get to this country or what?

Policies and politics changes with mood and vote of the people. We don't want some big-eared clown making policy that we can't get out of in the future. DumBama is gone, and Trump is trying to De-Bama the country.

When we voted the last several elections, we voted for change; not just change of the players, but change in the politics as well. We gave Republicans leadership of the Congress. We gave Republicans leadership of the Senate. We recently gave Republicans the White House. Why? Because we don't want Democrat policies anymore, and Democrat policies should not continue we we vote in Republican leadership.

Signing on to this Paris Accord gives Democrats the power over our environment no matter who is in leadership in the future. Trump rightfully stopped that. If the country wants change (as we do now) then we should not be bound by some stupid agreement that stops such change.

Yes, we are the leader of the world, and our leader is saying we act independently on this issue.

I get it. When Obama was President you had a freaking fit when he used EOs or negotiated agreements & here you re cheering when El Dumpster does it.

How much shit has your orange hero done against popular opinion & on his own.

What is El Cheeto's polling? How many people agree with his shit?

According to you, he shoulds not do any of this shit.

He lost the popular vote so most Americans don't want his fat ass anywhere near the White House.


I get it. When Obama was President you had a freaking fit when he used EOs or negotiated agreements & here you re cheering when El Dumpster does it.

Right. The difference is what Obama was signing for his cronyism vs. what Trump is signing to free up the nation again and get us moving forward!

How much shit has your orange hero done against popular opinion & on his own. What is El Cheeto's polling? How many people agree with his shit?

Apparently more than you think. Apparently more than the polls tell. Kind of like before the election! Who gives a crap what popular opinion is? The average person on the street can't even find Canada on a map and they get their "popular opinion" from hack sources like the MSM run by democrats.

He lost the popular vote so most Americans don't want his fat ass anywhere near the White House.

Funny, last I checked, he won the presidency! He won 30 out of 50 states! He won 306 electoral college votes to Hillary's only 232. He won 200 counties that had previously voted for Obama! The only people who don't want Trump in the Whitehouse are jackass liberals like you, democrats in Washington, and the millions of illegal aliens the democrats helped to vote for Hillary. But don't you worry, voter ID, voter fraud, and the illegal alien issue are all going to get addressed, and these are the mainstay of the democratic platform!!!

Given an open, honest, fair and legal platform, the democrats would lose every time. They only win what they do by suppressing information, lying, cheating, and steering the media to heavily favor and support them.
I'm sorry. But when your orange worthless, lying pussy grabbing, business cheat, POS Trump has Kushner & Ivanka in the White House, nominated DeVos, Pruitt, Sessions, etc involved in key programs, You don't ever get to complain about cronyism again.
so no family members as advisors or special jobs? That the precedent you want to set? I guess leftists should shutup since bill had Hillary doing a job and Obama had his mother in law in the WH. We were paying for her room and board! Holy fuck!
Off with all their heads!


Hillary was the First Lady.

Obama's moth-in law did not sat on on classified meetings.

Ivanka & Kushner might as well run the entire country. The funny part is you hate it but are too chickenshit to admit it.
 
Did you just get to this country or what?

Policies and politics changes with mood and vote of the people. We don't want some big-eared clown making policy that we can't get out of in the future. DumBama is gone, and Trump is trying to De-Bama the country.

When we voted the last several elections, we voted for change; not just change of the players, but change in the politics as well. We gave Republicans leadership of the Congress. We gave Republicans leadership of the Senate. We recently gave Republicans the White House. Why? Because we don't want Democrat policies anymore, and Democrat policies should not continue we we vote in Republican leadership.

Signing on to this Paris Accord gives Democrats the power over our environment no matter who is in leadership in the future. Trump rightfully stopped that. If the country wants change (as we do now) then we should not be bound by some stupid agreement that stops such change.

Yes, we are the leader of the world, and our leader is saying we act independently on this issue.

I get it. When Obama was President you had a freaking fit when he used EOs or negotiated agreements & here you re cheering when El Dumpster does it.

How much shit has your orange hero done against popular opinion & on his own.

What is El Cheeto's polling? How many people agree with his shit?

According to you, he shoulds not do any of this shit.

He lost the popular vote so most Americans don't want his fat ass anywhere near the White House.


I get it. When Obama was President you had a freaking fit when he used EOs or negotiated agreements & here you re cheering when El Dumpster does it.

Right. The difference is what Obama was signing for his cronyism vs. what Trump is signing to free up the nation again and get us moving forward!

How much shit has your orange hero done against popular opinion & on his own. What is El Cheeto's polling? How many people agree with his shit?

Apparently more than you think. Apparently more than the polls tell. Kind of like before the election! Who gives a crap what popular opinion is? The average person on the street can't even find Canada on a map and they get their "popular opinion" from hack sources like the MSM run by democrats.

He lost the popular vote so most Americans don't want his fat ass anywhere near the White House.

Funny, last I checked, he won the presidency! He won 30 out of 50 states! He won 306 electoral college votes to Hillary's only 232. He won 200 counties that had previously voted for Obama! The only people who don't want Trump in the Whitehouse are jackass liberals like you, democrats in Washington, and the millions of illegal aliens the democrats helped to vote for Hillary. But don't you worry, voter ID, voter fraud, and the illegal alien issue are all going to get addressed, and these are the mainstay of the democratic platform!!!

Given an open, honest, fair and legal platform, the democrats would lose every time. They only win what they do by suppressing information, lying, cheating, and steering the media to heavily favor and support them.
I'm sorry. But when your orange worthless, lying pussy grabbing, business cheat, POS Trump has Kushner & Ivanka in the White House, nominated DeVos, Pruitt, Sessions, etc involved in key programs, You don't ever get to complain about cronyism again.
so no family members as advisors or special jobs? That the precedent you want to set? I guess leftists should shutup since bill had Hillary doing a job and Obama had his mother in law in the WH. We were paying for her room and board! Holy fuck!
Off with all their heads!


Hillary was the First Lady.

Obama's moth-in law did not sat on on classified meetings.

Ivanka & Kushner might as well run the entire country. The funny part is you hate it but are too chickenshit to admit it.
So what?
They all had/have informal roles. I could give two shits.
BTW, it was Trump that wanted them to have sec clearance.. They have to know some things or whats the point?
 
Its been several years since we had a cat 3.
Try again.
Did you catch those cyclones on the other side of the world last year though? A couple of them were really intense. Do they not count because they didn't happen in the US?
They do. I was just thinking US. That's my fault. He didn't even imply that.
Yes, there were a couple cat 4s and one or two cat 3s.
There was 3 major hurricanes in 1959
In 1969 there were 5. Even had a cat 5
In 1975 there were 7.
YOU believe we have a new hurricane problem.
No, I don't. What some climatologists are predicting is less frequent but more intense hurricanes. I don't think any of them are actually saying climate change has reached the point to affect that, or that we are anywhere near collecting data to see if that is true or not. Maybe in twenty or thirty years? A bunch more Katrinas and Sandys aren't exactly my hope, either, TN.
Predictions. Exactly. They also predicted cali would be under water and y2k was going to cause a massive computer crash..
Fear mongering. Got to love it.

Predictions. Exactly. They also predicted cali would be under water and y2k was going to cause a massive computer crash..
Fear mongering. Got to love it.

Al Gore was just interviewed the other day and asked about his 10 year predictions which got him a Nobel Prize. Well, those ten years have come and gone, his drastic measures were never implemented and none of his nightmare consequences have occurred:

Wallace reminded Gore that in his documentary he claimed that unless the world “took drastic measures the world would reach a point of no return within 10 years.”

Wallace added that in his publicity of the movie, Gore claimed that if the world didn’t act, man-made global warming would result in a “true planetary emergency.”

Many predictions made by scientists and other climate change alarmists like Gore have failed to come true. For example, in 2007 Gore predicted that the summer Arctic ice in the North Pole would completely disappear by 2013 due to global warming caused by carbon dioxide emissions.

That, however, never came true. The same can be said for many of Gore’s claims and that’s exactly what Wallace confronted him over.


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All the democrats seem to be good for is getting Nobel Prizes for doing shit. They give them out for talking a good globalist agenda player. Pretty much devalues the Nobel prize for all those who truly deserve it! I bet Trump could literally collapse the Kim Jong-Un regime, reopen the S. China Sea to unfettered traffic, renegotiate all of the US trade deals to boost our economy by a trillion dollars, end drug trafficking between Mexico and the USA, stop terror attacks in the U.S., bring the Middle East together in combating ISIS, Iran's nuclear ambitions and bring peace to the Palestinian / Israeli tensions and they would not even send Trump a Hallmark Thank-You card!


Changes were made & emissions cut so of course his predictions would not be accurate. Howrver, if EWl Dumpster returns us to emissions central, we don't know what the future will hold.

As for Gore, you people keep lying about Gore & the arctic ice, he said arctic ice could be melted by 2013 or 2024.

"Could" - look it up & learn what it means. Our emission are no longer increasing as they once were & have been decreasing party through the efforts of people like Al Gore.

Its like me saying that if you keep eating like a pig, you'll weight 300 pound next year. You go on a diet & then call me a liar.
 
Hurricanes are increasing in intensity although there may be fewer.

Increasing in intensity does not always mean a much of category 5s. It also means what would have been a tropical storm becoming a category 1.

Last year there were 4 major hurricanes.
Its been several years since we had a cat 3.
Try again.
Did you catch those cyclones on the other side of the world last year though? A couple of them were really intense. Do they not count because they didn't happen in the US?
They do. I was just thinking US. That's my fault. He didn't even imply that.
Yes, there were a couple cat 4s and one or two cat 3s.
There was 3 major hurricanes in 1959
In 1969 there were 5. Even had a cat 5
In 1975 there were 7.
YOU believe we have a new hurricane problem.

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PROBLEM IS (speaking as a scientist):

A). The first significant deviation was noted in the 1930's. At that time, significant industrial output was too young to be accredited with causing any global weather change.

B). The sampling period is simply too short! Without looking back several hundred, even thousands or millions of years, no one can say whether any trend seen today is unusual, normal or very common. What if 1500 years ago, there was a period of hurricane activity equal to or worse than today? What then?

C). This fails to take into account the fact that the main driver of our weather isn't us, it is the SUN. One must factor in the various solar cycles if you are to have an honest accounting.
The SUN???? OMG no one EVER EVER thought of that.

Scientists are evidently not as smarty as you & none ever considered solar cycles,.

My God people. Get a fucking brain,.

If the Sun is the major cause and contributor to climate changes, then what's the point of the Paris Accord and all this CO2 bullcrap, mental giant? You're the only one I know on this planet who can actually put your own foot in your mouth making yourself out an idiot, and still actually be stupid enough to think the OTHER person needs to get a brain!!! Next time you post one of your bullshit "scientific reports" on man-made climate change, DO SHOW ME where they factored the Sun into the equation, genius.
 
If you think we need some agreement with other countries to tell us what to do and how to do it, you're the stupid one. You want America to be like that guy with a good paying job that patrons a bar. Everybody runs up to him shaking his hand, giving him a hug, knowing he will buy them drinks all night long because he has the money.

Our country is 20 trillion dollars in debt. We are broke. Do you know what the word "broke" means? Broke means no money. Broke means in debt. Broke means failure. Why you leftists would choose failure all the time is beyond any reasonable persons ability to understand.

We can't afford to spend God knows how many billions (of money we don't have) on some stupid fairy tale like MMGW. You on the left always tell us to keep our religion in our church or at home, you should do the same with your beliefs. Don't involve our country in your stupid religion. If you want to lower your idiotic carbon footprint, buy a bike and ride it everywhere you go. Buy a windmill for your backyard. Take the bus everywhere you need to go. And in a hundred years from now, you can sit back and enjoy that .02% of cooler air.

God you people are dense.

In reality nobody is telling us anything Ray. We are the leader of this world not a dumb follower.
Taking about debt------- Since when you care about debt? Trump is wasting millions just by golfing, security and travel expenses of his family.
How about those small business that lost income every time he goes to Maralago?

Again are you saying that 7 out of 10 of Americans,CEOs, Conoco, Exxon etc etc etc blasting dumb Trump are all belong to the left are dense?
You are very wrong Ray.

Did you just get to this country or what?

Policies and politics changes with mood and vote of the people. We don't want some big-eared clown making policy that we can't get out of in the future. DumBama is gone, and Trump is trying to De-Bama the country.

When we voted the last several elections, we voted for change; not just change of the players, but change in the politics as well. We gave Republicans leadership of the Congress. We gave Republicans leadership of the Senate. We recently gave Republicans the White House. Why? Because we don't want Democrat policies anymore, and Democrat policies should not continue we we vote in Republican leadership.

Signing on to this Paris Accord gives Democrats the power over our environment no matter who is in leadership in the future. Trump rightfully stopped that. If the country wants change (as we do now) then we should not be bound by some stupid agreement that stops such change.

Yes, we are the leader of the world, and our leader is saying we act independently on this issue.

I get it. When Obama was President you had a freaking fit when he used EOs or negotiated agreements & here you re cheering when El Dumpster does it.

How much shit has your orange hero done against popular opinion & on his own.

What is El Cheeto's polling? How many people agree with his shit?

According to you, he shoulds not do any of this shit.

He lost the popular vote so most Americans don't want his fat ass anywhere near the White House.


I get it. When Obama was President you had a freaking fit when he used EOs or negotiated agreements & here you re cheering when El Dumpster does it.

Right. The difference is what Obama was signing for his cronyism vs. what Trump is signing to free up the nation again and get us moving forward!

How much shit has your orange hero done against popular opinion & on his own. What is El Cheeto's polling? How many people agree with his shit?

Apparently more than you think. Apparently more than the polls tell. Kind of like before the election! Who gives a crap what popular opinion is? The average person on the street can't even find Canada on a map and they get their "popular opinion" from hack sources like the MSM run by democrats.

He lost the popular vote so most Americans don't want his fat ass anywhere near the White House.

Funny, last I checked, he won the presidency! He won 30 out of 50 states! He won 306 electoral college votes to Hillary's only 232. He won 200 counties that had previously voted for Obama! The only people who don't want Trump in the Whitehouse are jackass liberals like you, democrats in Washington, and the millions of illegal aliens the democrats helped to vote for Hillary. But don't you worry, voter ID, voter fraud, and the illegal alien issue are all going to get addressed, and these are the mainstay of the democratic platform!!!

Given an open, honest, fair and legal platform, the democrats would lose every time. They only win what they do by suppressing information, lying, cheating, and steering the media to heavily favor and support them.
I'm sorry. But when your orange worthless, lying pussy grabbing, business cheat, POS Trump has Kushner & Ivanka in the White House, nominated DeVos, Pruitt, Sessions, etc involved in key programs, You don't ever get to complain about cronyism again.

In business, you gotta go with the best talent you can find and trust. That Reality Winner girl has shown the government is full of cheap, traitorous socialist Bernie-loving Obama pieces of filth who put their personal politics agenda ahead of their nation. She will do some real hard time for that. More on the way.
 
I get it. When Obama was President you had a freaking fit when he used EOs or negotiated agreements & here you re cheering when El Dumpster does it.

How much shit has your orange hero done against popular opinion & on his own.

What is El Cheeto's polling? How many people agree with his shit?

According to you, he shoulds not do any of this shit.

He lost the popular vote so most Americans don't want his fat ass anywhere near the White House.


I get it. When Obama was President you had a freaking fit when he used EOs or negotiated agreements & here you re cheering when El Dumpster does it.

Right. The difference is what Obama was signing for his cronyism vs. what Trump is signing to free up the nation again and get us moving forward!

How much shit has your orange hero done against popular opinion & on his own. What is El Cheeto's polling? How many people agree with his shit?

Apparently more than you think. Apparently more than the polls tell. Kind of like before the election! Who gives a crap what popular opinion is? The average person on the street can't even find Canada on a map and they get their "popular opinion" from hack sources like the MSM run by democrats.

He lost the popular vote so most Americans don't want his fat ass anywhere near the White House.

Funny, last I checked, he won the presidency! He won 30 out of 50 states! He won 306 electoral college votes to Hillary's only 232. He won 200 counties that had previously voted for Obama! The only people who don't want Trump in the Whitehouse are jackass liberals like you, democrats in Washington, and the millions of illegal aliens the democrats helped to vote for Hillary. But don't you worry, voter ID, voter fraud, and the illegal alien issue are all going to get addressed, and these are the mainstay of the democratic platform!!!

Given an open, honest, fair and legal platform, the democrats would lose every time. They only win what they do by suppressing information, lying, cheating, and steering the media to heavily favor and support them.
I'm sorry. But when your orange worthless, lying pussy grabbing, business cheat, POS Trump has Kushner & Ivanka in the White House, nominated DeVos, Pruitt, Sessions, etc involved in key programs, You don't ever get to complain about cronyism again.
so no family members as advisors or special jobs? That the precedent you want to set? I guess leftists should shutup since bill had Hillary doing a job and Obama had his mother in law in the WH. We were paying for her room and board! Holy fuck!
Off with all their heads!


Hillary was the First Lady.

Obama's moth-in law did not sat on on classified meetings.

Ivanka & Kushner might as well run the entire country. The funny part is you hate it but are too chickenshit to admit it.
So what?
They all had/have informal roles. I could give two shits.
BTW, it was Trump that wanted them to have sec clearance.. They have to know some things or whats the point?
Kushnew is on the payroll.

This is not an informal role: Trump's Secretary of Everything: Jared Kushner - CNNPolitics.com
 
In reality nobody is telling us anything Ray. We are the leader of this world not a dumb follower.
Taking about debt------- Since when you care about debt? Trump is wasting millions just by golfing, security and travel expenses of his family.
How about those small business that lost income every time he goes to Maralago?

Again are you saying that 7 out of 10 of Americans,CEOs, Conoco, Exxon etc etc etc blasting dumb Trump are all belong to the left are dense?
You are very wrong Ray.

Did you just get to this country or what?

Policies and politics changes with mood and vote of the people. We don't want some big-eared clown making policy that we can't get out of in the future. DumBama is gone, and Trump is trying to De-Bama the country.

When we voted the last several elections, we voted for change; not just change of the players, but change in the politics as well. We gave Republicans leadership of the Congress. We gave Republicans leadership of the Senate. We recently gave Republicans the White House. Why? Because we don't want Democrat policies anymore, and Democrat policies should not continue we we vote in Republican leadership.

Signing on to this Paris Accord gives Democrats the power over our environment no matter who is in leadership in the future. Trump rightfully stopped that. If the country wants change (as we do now) then we should not be bound by some stupid agreement that stops such change.

Yes, we are the leader of the world, and our leader is saying we act independently on this issue.

I get it. When Obama was President you had a freaking fit when he used EOs or negotiated agreements & here you re cheering when El Dumpster does it.

How much shit has your orange hero done against popular opinion & on his own.

What is El Cheeto's polling? How many people agree with his shit?

According to you, he shoulds not do any of this shit.

He lost the popular vote so most Americans don't want his fat ass anywhere near the White House.


I get it. When Obama was President you had a freaking fit when he used EOs or negotiated agreements & here you re cheering when El Dumpster does it.

Right. The difference is what Obama was signing for his cronyism vs. what Trump is signing to free up the nation again and get us moving forward!

How much shit has your orange hero done against popular opinion & on his own. What is El Cheeto's polling? How many people agree with his shit?

Apparently more than you think. Apparently more than the polls tell. Kind of like before the election! Who gives a crap what popular opinion is? The average person on the street can't even find Canada on a map and they get their "popular opinion" from hack sources like the MSM run by democrats.

He lost the popular vote so most Americans don't want his fat ass anywhere near the White House.

Funny, last I checked, he won the presidency! He won 30 out of 50 states! He won 306 electoral college votes to Hillary's only 232. He won 200 counties that had previously voted for Obama! The only people who don't want Trump in the Whitehouse are jackass liberals like you, democrats in Washington, and the millions of illegal aliens the democrats helped to vote for Hillary. But don't you worry, voter ID, voter fraud, and the illegal alien issue are all going to get addressed, and these are the mainstay of the democratic platform!!!

Given an open, honest, fair and legal platform, the democrats would lose every time. They only win what they do by suppressing information, lying, cheating, and steering the media to heavily favor and support them.
I'm sorry. But when your orange worthless, lying pussy grabbing, business cheat, POS Trump has Kushner & Ivanka in the White House, nominated DeVos, Pruitt, Sessions, etc involved in key programs, You don't ever get to complain about cronyism again.

In business, you gotta go with the best talent you can find and trust. That Reality Winner girl has shown the government is full of cheap, traitorous socialist Bernie-loving Obama pieces of filth who put their personal politics agenda ahead of their nation. She will do some real hard time for that. More on the way.
Best Talent:Betsy Devos
Best Talent: Michael Flynn
Etc
Etc
Etc

Now that's some funny chit.
 
Right. The difference is what Obama was signing for his cronyism vs. what Trump is signing to free up the nation again and get us moving forward!

Apparently more than you think. Apparently more than the polls tell. Kind of like before the election! Who gives a crap what popular opinion is? The average person on the street can't even find Canada on a map and they get their "popular opinion" from hack sources like the MSM run by democrats.

Funny, last I checked, he won the presidency! He won 30 out of 50 states! He won 306 electoral college votes to Hillary's only 232. He won 200 counties that had previously voted for Obama! The only people who don't want Trump in the Whitehouse are jackass liberals like you, democrats in Washington, and the millions of illegal aliens the democrats helped to vote for Hillary. But don't you worry, voter ID, voter fraud, and the illegal alien issue are all going to get addressed, and these are the mainstay of the democratic platform!!!

Given an open, honest, fair and legal platform, the democrats would lose every time. They only win what they do by suppressing information, lying, cheating, and steering the media to heavily favor and support them.
I'm sorry. But when your orange worthless, lying pussy grabbing, business cheat, POS Trump has Kushner & Ivanka in the White House, nominated DeVos, Pruitt, Sessions, etc involved in key programs, You don't ever get to complain about cronyism again.
so no family members as advisors or special jobs? That the precedent you want to set? I guess leftists should shutup since bill had Hillary doing a job and Obama had his mother in law in the WH. We were paying for her room and board! Holy fuck!
Off with all their heads!


Hillary was the First Lady.

Obama's moth-in law did not sat on on classified meetings.

Ivanka & Kushner might as well run the entire country. The funny part is you hate it but are too chickenshit to admit it.
So what?
They all had/have informal roles. I could give two shits.
BTW, it was Trump that wanted them to have sec clearance.. They have to know some things or whats the point?
Kushnew is on the payroll.

This is not an informal role: Trump's Secretary of Everything: Jared Kushner - CNNPolitics.com
shit, I didn't even know he was senior advisor. Yes, that is absolutely a formal role.
Thanks
 
Thanks, but I have a question: Why are so many of the weather reporting articles from 2014 based on 2013 data and prior? I noticed that, too, when I was looking at articles. Does it really take that long to compile data?
dunno. i just like to look up blanket statements and see how valid they may or may not be. i hear storms are getting worse and maybe they are. but i've seen horrible storms a lot through life and not just recently.

i've also seen not long ago the left and science say a mini ice age is coming. oops.

it's hard to believe someone and take them seriously when they rage to a point and then keep changing the name of it to fit another potential possibility.
Well, when it takes them three years and running to compile their data, I guess we'll all be running on "old news." You are too bright to believe that because there have been horrible storms in the past it somehow argues that climate change may bring about fewer but more intense storms. You know it is an average over years. You know that averages include minor and major storms. You KNOW that, so why are you arguing such a goof ball third grade statement from Bear?

I don't remember the mini ice age thing--I remember something about everyone getting cancer from a hole in the ozone and then we stopped selling aerosols for the most part. Predictions and the "latest" scientific theories are frequently proved wrong over time; that is true. We can't deny the climate is changing. We can't deny we are pumping much, much more C02 in the atmosphere than we were 300 years ago. We can't deny C02 increases temps on Earth. So we can reasonably deny what?
- That we can do anything about it
- How much we should pay/sacrifice/contribute toward an attempted solution

Those are the only real bones of contention I see available.

We can't deny we are pumping much, much more C02 in the atmosphere than we were 300 years ago. We can't deny C02 increases temps on Earth. So we can reasonably deny what?

Aside from the fact that the Earth has zillions of tons more CO2 than we do, Aside from the fact that obviously we are putting CO2 into the air via industrialization that simply wasn't there 150 years ago, the inarguable point is that CO2 is still a minute trace gas, still a very WEAK greenhouse gas, our output pales in comparison to what the Earth itself puts out just from natural sources like volcanos and venting from the sea floor, our output over the past 150 years is but a blink in the eye compared to the 4.5 billion year life of the planet, and during the first third of our 150 year period, our output was meager (industrialization was just getting started), and over the last third of that period, nations like the USA have developed clean technology to drastically cut back on levels!

And BTW, that "much, much more" you speak of amounts to 100 more atoms of CO2 per million atoms of air.

If anyone really wants to help the planet, forget CO2, forget carbon credits, forget the Paris Accord and concentrate on getting developing countries like China and India the technology to clean up their air of the FULL SPECTRUM of pollutants, not just CO2, for true air quality.
If anyone really wants to help the planet, forget CO2, forget carbon credits, forget the Paris Accord and concentrate on getting developing countries like China and India the technology to clean up their air of the FULL SPECTRUM of pollutants, not just CO2, for true air quality.[/QUOTE]
Well, since Trump just pulled us out of the only agreement that began to take steps toward that goal, I guess we can't. It's pretty arrogant, imo, to demand it of China and India but not agree to any contributions on our part, especially since we are the #2 emitter of C02 on the planet. But yeah, let's just bully India and China and blame them for everything, pretend we can "make them" clean up their environment. That's what the Paris Accords were meant to begin. Except what's good for the goose is good for the gander. And Trump won't play that way.
 
Its been several years since we had a cat 3.
Try again.
Did you catch those cyclones on the other side of the world last year though? A couple of them were really intense. Do they not count because they didn't happen in the US?
They do. I was just thinking US. That's my fault. He didn't even imply that.
Yes, there were a couple cat 4s and one or two cat 3s.
There was 3 major hurricanes in 1959
In 1969 there were 5. Even had a cat 5
In 1975 there were 7.
YOU believe we have a new hurricane problem.

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PROBLEM IS (speaking as a scientist):

A). The first significant deviation was noted in the 1930's. At that time, significant industrial output was too young to be accredited with causing any global weather change.

B). The sampling period is simply too short! Without looking back several hundred, even thousands or millions of years, no one can say whether any trend seen today is unusual, normal or very common. What if 1500 years ago, there was a period of hurricane activity equal to or worse than today? What then?

C). This fails to take into account the fact that the main driver of our weather isn't us, it is the SUN. One must factor in the various solar cycles if you are to have an honest accounting.
The SUN???? OMG no one EVER EVER thought of that.

Scientists are evidently not as smarty as you & none ever considered solar cycles,.

My God people. Get a fucking brain,.

If the Sun is the major cause and contributor to climate changes, then what's the point of the Paris Accord and all this CO2 bullcrap, mental giant? You're the only one I know on this planet who can actually put your own foot in your mouth making yourself out an idiot, and still actually be stupid enough to think the OTHER person needs to get a brain!!! Next time you post one of your bullshit "scientific reports" on man-made climate change, DO SHOW ME where they factored the Sun into the equation, genius.

I ain't showing you shit. Get off your lazy fat ass & get an education.

The idea you think climate scientist ignore solar cycles is quite amusing.

Our emissions leading to a heightened greenhouse effect makes us warmer. That warming is above anything a solar cycle would do. That is why we need the Paris Accord.

And here you are claiming we should do nothing about emissions because solar cycles exist?
 
Ivanka & Kushner might as well run the entire country.


I could live with that.

I would rather have THIS from Donald Trump as the face of my government:


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Than what the democrats offer as the face of THEIR party!

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Thanks, but I have a question: Why are so many of the weather reporting articles from 2014 based on 2013 data and prior? I noticed that, too, when I was looking at articles. Does it really take that long to compile data?
dunno. i just like to look up blanket statements and see how valid they may or may not be. i hear storms are getting worse and maybe they are. but i've seen horrible storms a lot through life and not just recently.

i've also seen not long ago the left and science say a mini ice age is coming. oops.

it's hard to believe someone and take them seriously when they rage to a point and then keep changing the name of it to fit another potential possibility.
Well, when it takes them three years and running to compile their data, I guess we'll all be running on "old news." You are too bright to believe that because there have been horrible storms in the past it somehow argues that climate change may bring about fewer but more intense storms. You know it is an average over years. You know that averages include minor and major storms. You KNOW that, so why are you arguing such a goof ball third grade statement from Bear?

I don't remember the mini ice age thing--I remember something about everyone getting cancer from a hole in the ozone and then we stopped selling aerosols for the most part. Predictions and the "latest" scientific theories are frequently proved wrong over time; that is true. We can't deny the climate is changing. We can't deny we are pumping much, much more C02 in the atmosphere than we were 300 years ago. We can't deny C02 increases temps on Earth. So we can reasonably deny what?
- That we can do anything about it
- How much we should pay/sacrifice/contribute toward an attempted solution

Those are the only real bones of contention I see available.

We can't deny we are pumping much, much more C02 in the atmosphere than we were 300 years ago. We can't deny C02 increases temps on Earth. So we can reasonably deny what?

Aside from the fact that the Earth has zillions of tons more CO2 than we do, Aside from the fact that obviously we are putting CO2 into the air via industrialization that simply wasn't there 150 years ago, the inarguable point is that CO2 is still a minute trace gas, still a very WEAK greenhouse gas, our output pales in comparison to what the Earth itself puts out just from natural sources like volcanos and venting from the sea floor, our output over the past 150 years is but a blink in the eye compared to the 4.5 billion year life of the planet, and during the first third of our 150 year period, our output was meager (industrialization was just getting started), and over the last third of that period, nations like the USA have developed clean technology to drastically cut back on levels!

And BTW, that "much, much more" you speak of amounts to 100 more atoms of CO2 per million atoms of air.

If anyone really wants to help the planet, forget CO2, forget carbon credits, forget the Paris Accord and concentrate on getting developing countries like China and India the technology to clean up their air of the FULL SPECTRUM of pollutants, not just CO2, for true air quality.
If anyone really wants to help the planet, forget CO2, forget carbon credits, forget the Paris Accord and concentrate on getting developing countries like China and India the technology to clean up their air of the FULL SPECTRUM of pollutants, not just CO2, for true air quality.
Well, since Trump just pulled us out of the only agreement that began to take steps toward that goal, I guess we can't. It's pretty arrogant, imo, to demand it of China and India but not agree to any contributions on our part, especially since we are the #2 emitter of C02 on the planet. But yeah, let's just bully India and China and blame them for everything, pretend we can "make them" clean up their environment. That's what the Paris Accords were meant to begin. Except what's good for the goose is good for the gander. And Trump won't play that way.[/QUOTE]
they demanded china? You sure bout that?
 
It's pretty arrogant, imo, to demand it of China and India but not agree to any contributions on our part,

Trump could care less what those countries do! All he said is that if you want the USA in the deal too, you have to work a better deal for us! Viva La Trump! Or maybe you care more for China than the USA. Oh wait. Your a globalist who wants it good for "the whole planet."

especially since we are the #2 emitter of C02 on the planet.

You keep regurgitating a meaningless point.

But yeah, let's just bully India and China and blame them for everything,


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Yep! That's us! Big bullies! Maybe that will make up for the past 8 years of our being the crack-sniffing, JV-fearing, Saudi-bowing, colonial-apologizing Nobel-jerking country under the Obamaclown.

That's what the Paris Accords were meant to begin.

What it is meant to begin is one thing, what it will actually accomplish--- nothing ---is quite another.

Still, like I already said THREE TIMES, nothing stopping the rest of the world from doing it if they want! Then we will see. Since there is no committal to anything under it anyway, it is all just words, no real difference being in it vs. not!
 
I ain't showing you shit.

Just as I thought! You don't have nothing but your own tired rhetoric to show!

The idea you think climate scientist ignore solar cycles is quite amusing.

The idea that you even think you know anything about solar cycles is quite amusing! I bet you can't even tell us what class the Sun is???

Well?

Can you tell us anything about how the proton/proton chain of nucleosynthesis relates to deuterium production? Mind you, I WILL KNOW if you just copy shit off the web.

Hello?

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Just as I thought. You probably clean the toilets at Walmart.

Our emissions leading to a heightened greenhouse effect makes us warmer.

Prove it. Global warming is just your worshiping on the alter of your favorite love interest: Al Gore.

That warming is above anything a solar cycle would do.

You have just proven that you are less than an imbecile.
 
Thanks, but I have a question: Why are so many of the weather reporting articles from 2014 based on 2013 data and prior? I noticed that, too, when I was looking at articles. Does it really take that long to compile data?
dunno. i just like to look up blanket statements and see how valid they may or may not be. i hear storms are getting worse and maybe they are. but i've seen horrible storms a lot through life and not just recently.

i've also seen not long ago the left and science say a mini ice age is coming. oops.

it's hard to believe someone and take them seriously when they rage to a point and then keep changing the name of it to fit another potential possibility.
Well, when it takes them three years and running to compile their data, I guess we'll all be running on "old news." You are too bright to believe that because there have been horrible storms in the past it somehow argues that climate change may bring about fewer but more intense storms. You know it is an average over years. You know that averages include minor and major storms. You KNOW that, so why are you arguing such a goof ball third grade statement from Bear?

I don't remember the mini ice age thing--I remember something about everyone getting cancer from a hole in the ozone and then we stopped selling aerosols for the most part. Predictions and the "latest" scientific theories are frequently proved wrong over time; that is true. We can't deny the climate is changing. We can't deny we are pumping much, much more C02 in the atmosphere than we were 300 years ago. We can't deny C02 increases temps on Earth. So we can reasonably deny what?
- That we can do anything about it
- How much we should pay/sacrifice/contribute toward an attempted solution

Those are the only real bones of contention I see available.

We can't deny we are pumping much, much more C02 in the atmosphere than we were 300 years ago. We can't deny C02 increases temps on Earth. So we can reasonably deny what?

Aside from the fact that the Earth has zillions of tons more CO2 than we do, Aside from the fact that obviously we are putting CO2 into the air via industrialization that simply wasn't there 150 years ago, the inarguable point is that CO2 is still a minute trace gas, still a very WEAK greenhouse gas, our output pales in comparison to what the Earth itself puts out just from natural sources like volcanos and venting from the sea floor, our output over the past 150 years is but a blink in the eye compared to the 4.5 billion year life of the planet, and during the first third of our 150 year period, our output was meager (industrialization was just getting started), and over the last third of that period, nations like the USA have developed clean technology to drastically cut back on levels!

And BTW, that "much, much more" you speak of amounts to 100 more atoms of CO2 per million atoms of air.

If anyone really wants to help the planet, forget CO2, forget carbon credits, forget the Paris Accord and concentrate on getting developing countries like China and India the technology to clean up their air of the FULL SPECTRUM of pollutants, not just CO2, for true air quality.
If anyone really wants to help the planet, forget CO2, forget carbon credits, forget the Paris Accord and concentrate on getting developing countries like China and India the technology to clean up their air of the FULL SPECTRUM of pollutants, not just CO2, for true air quality.
Well, since Trump just pulled us out of the only agreement that began to take steps toward that goal, I guess we can't. It's pretty arrogant, imo, to demand it of China and India but not agree to any contributions on our part, especially since we are the #2 emitter of C02 on the planet. But yeah, let's just bully India and China and blame them for everything, pretend we can "make them" clean up their environment. That's what the Paris Accords were meant to begin. Except what's good for the goose is good for the gander. And Trump won't play that way.
they demanded china? You sure bout that?[/QUOTE]
I was referring to toobfreak's post. You don't like it talk to him.
 
That's what the Paris Accords were meant to begin.

No, that's not what it was meant for. Global Warming (or climate change as you call it) is a leftist agenda. The Democrats want to obligate us to that leftist agenda no matter who has power such as the case today. Thank goodness Trump refused to go along with it.

Besides, the leftist outrage has nothing to do with global warming, it has to do with the Republicans tearing apart DumBama's liberal agenda piece by piece. Had Bush come out with the Paris Accord, you would be applauding Trumps actions today.
 

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