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How China is leading the world in solar energy productionI applaud his speech. Why let China get a free ride until 2030?
America first baby
-Geaux
Alt-Right didn't tell you this?
It's one planet, one atmosphere. Explain why the populations matter as to the amount of greenhouse gasses entering the atmosphere.First, we are not the #2 polluter, don't know where you got that crap,To get every country* in the world to agree that we should ALL clean up the environment for the planet's sake was a big accomplishment.
Still, only words. A non-binding agreement. Just talk is all it is. No accountability, no enforcement, no way to verify.
The U.S., the second largest polluter on the planet actually spearheaded the effort.
Then all the better that we step out of it! Still the same bad idea no matter, just another attempt to globalize socialize one-worldize our country.
The countries with economies large enough agreed to help out the countries that are still heating by campfire. This is the spirit of cooperation rarely if ever seen in the history of this planet before. Then, along comes Trump and says "I don't want to pay anything toward this" even though we are the #2 polluter--who cares? It's cheaper to pollute. Our coal miners need jobs. And just like that, we're out. And YOU are PROUD of that?
Yep! First, we are not the #2 polluter, don't know where you got that crap, and if all the other countries still want to do it, NOTHING STOPPING THEM! JUST QUIT TRYING TO STICK ME WITH THE BILL! The US Taxpayer is SICK AND TIRED of carry the world on our shoulders. The Accord won't make a damn bit of an effect, it would cost us hugely, and besides, Trump made it clear he would be all open to it if it can be worked out different that we aren't screwed in the ass. DAMN PROUD TO HAVE A PRESIDENT stand up for me like that and take it in the chin because it was the right thing to do for the USA.
I don't know where you've been that you DIDN'T know we were the #2 polluter. I've heard some places say we're #1, but I'll go with the EPA and what is said in my local paper this morning.
Global Greenhouse Gas Emissions Data | US EPA
Yes but is that adjusted for population???
So, you think man can spew all kinds of shit into our atmosphere & not change anything? Really?
NASA: "Multiple studies published in peer-reviewed scientific journals1 show that 97 percent or more of actively publishing climate scientists agree: Climate-warming trends over the past century are extremely likely due to human activities. In addition, most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position. "
Don't take my word for it---- go look it up and research it out. The Paris Accord is a scam to yet again like all other "deals" set forth in the past, just bilk more money out from the USA like a fat cow and put into the deep pockets of globalists! Want to know why people like Angela Merkel got that funny look on her face? Because for years AMERICAN POLITICIANS LIKE HILLARY CLINTON have been selling out their country for money, for a price, they will "cut you in." Now that Trump is here,. he IS NOT A PLAYER, he cannot be threatened or bribed.
ALL THESE OTHER COUNTRIES in EU and NATO, etc., PART OF THEIR ECONOMY IS LONG BEEN BASED ON SUCKING THE USA for MONEY!! Now that Trump is in, Merkel really meant it that for once, countries like Germany are really going to have to start carrying their own weight. And they are terrified.
you missed the word 'pledged'.. none of them have paid squat..Ahhhh!!! That's where Rustic is getting it from!time to withdraw!
Not true, though, that the US is alone in committing funds.
In announcing his decision to withdraw from the Paris climate accord, President Trump also said the United States would stop contributing to the Green Climate Fund, a United Nations program that he claimed could eventually cost the country “billions and billions and billions” of dollars.
How much have rich countries pledged?
Industrialized countries have voluntarily pledged $10.3 billion since 2013 to help poorer nations reduce greenhouse gas emissions and address the effects of climate change. The United States has pledged by far the most — $3 billion, twice that of the second-largest pledger, Japan. But on a per-capita basis, many other countries have offered more than the United States. Swedes, for example, will contribute nearly $60 each.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/02/climate/trump-paris-green-climate-fund.html
It's one planet, one atmosphere. Explain why the populations matter as to the amount of greenhouse gasses entering the atmosphere.
Someone asked if the amount of greenhouse gasses per country had been adjusted for population. I fail to see how that matters when measuring a country's emissions overall.It's one planet, one atmosphere. Explain why the populations matter as to the amount of greenhouse gasses entering the atmosphere.
Your point being?
It would put unnecessary regulations that they could not afford their products.WHY?The climate accord would destroy small businesses in this country… FactThank you. But the Agreement calls for countries to submit their specific plans by 2020. How did he do these projections when the countries haven't submitted their plans yet?The maximum expected benefit would be 0.2 degrees, at the cost of trillions. Bad idea.I believe I heard the ultimate goal was to slow anticipated global warming by 2 degrees. Not .2 degrees.
The maximum expected benefit would be 0.2 degrees, at the cost of trillions. Bad idea.
It is impossible to know what is correct, except that DAMMITALL, cleaning up the environment is a good thing
This wasted money would actual clean the environment. That's why it's so stupid.
Alright, but I need that link, please.
Alright, but I need that link, please
Sorry, I was way off.
The climate impact of all Paris INDC promises is minuscule: if we measure the impact of every nation fulfilling every promise by 2030, the total temperature reduction will be 0.048°C (0.086°F) by 2100.
- Even if we assume that these promises would be extended for another 70 years, there is still little impact: if every nation fulfills every promise by 2030, and continues to fulfill these promises faithfully until the end of the century, and there is no ‘CO₂ leakage’ to non-committed nations, the entirety of the Paris promises will reduce temperature rises by just 0.17°C (0.306°F) by 2100.
Paris climate promises will reduce temperatures by just 0.05°C in 2100 (Press release) | Bjorn Lomborg
But no one's paid yet…Ahhhh!!! That's where Rustic is getting it from!time to withdraw!
Not true, though, that the US is alone in committing funds.
In announcing his decision to withdraw from the Paris climate accord, President Trump also said the United States would stop contributing to the Green Climate Fund, a United Nations program that he claimed could eventually cost the country “billions and billions and billions” of dollars.
How much have rich countries pledged?
Industrialized countries have voluntarily pledged $10.3 billion since 2013 to help poorer nations reduce greenhouse gas emissions and address the effects of climate change. The United States has pledged by far the most — $3 billion, twice that of the second-largest pledger, Japan. But on a per-capita basis, many other countries have offered more than the United States. Swedes, for example, will contribute nearly $60 each.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/02/climate/trump-paris-green-climate-fund.html
Well, don't worry about that now, Rustic. Pres is rolling back those pesky regulations as quick as he can. We may be choking in the fumes of noxious smog, but we'll be RICH!It would put unnecessary and regulations that they could not afford their products.WHY?The climate accord would destroy small businesses in this country… FactThank you. But the Agreement calls for countries to submit their specific plans by 2020. How did he do these projections when the countries haven't submitted their plans yet?The maximum expected benefit would be 0.2 degrees, at the cost of trillions. Bad idea.
Alright, but I need that link, please.
Alright, but I need that link, please
Sorry, I was way off.
The climate impact of all Paris INDC promises is minuscule: if we measure the impact of every nation fulfilling every promise by 2030, the total temperature reduction will be 0.048°C (0.086°F) by 2100.
- Even if we assume that these promises would be extended for another 70 years, there is still little impact: if every nation fulfills every promise by 2030, and continues to fulfill these promises faithfully until the end of the century, and there is no ‘CO₂ leakage’ to non-committed nations, the entirety of the Paris promises will reduce temperature rises by just 0.17°C (0.306°F) by 2100.
Paris climate promises will reduce temperatures by just 0.05°C in 2100 (Press release) | Bjorn Lomborg
Imagine if Europe had to pay for their own decent military… If we were to drop out of being the world police what would they do?Here are some real facts on the Paris Accord, which aims at attacking carbon levels. First, CO2 is plant food, second, carbon is part of life, you, me, animals, plants, rocks, everything is MADE out of carbon. The Earth self-regulates the amount of carbon, storing the extra within.
The Paris Accord will reduce CO2 in the air? Do you know that 99.97% of the air you breath is NOT CO2? Just how do you reduce CO2 by 2/10th of a percent when it isn't even that much in TOTAL now? Ask an Accord Believer to explain that one? Just what is CO2 that just a TRACE of it (necessary to all life) could destroy our planet, but volcanoes and super-volcanoes do not???
For those who may not know, the atmosphere really is as follows:
78% Nitrogen
21% Oxygen (from Plants mainly, essential for the animal life)
_That is 99% of your total atmosphere right there!_
That only leaves 1% left, as a combination of /trace gases./
These trace gases can be further broken down into the Noble gases and IR
storing gases which help to moderate our climate.
Of that 1% trace gas left over, _9/10ths_ of that is ARGON, a harmless,
inert gas.
That leaves roughly 0.1%, or about 1/10th of 1/100th of the atmosphere
left.
The other remaining inert noble gases (combined total of 0.002% total
atmosphere) are Neon, Helium, Krypton, Xenon, and also Hydrogen.
Of the remaining (combined total less than 1/10th of 1%, or 000.098% of
the atmosphere) atmosphere left over, these are the IR storing
components, such as Water Vapor, Carbon Dioxide, Methane, Nitrous
Oxide and Ozone, /combined/.
Kind of puts things into perspective, doesn't it?
Don't take my word for it---- go look it up and research it out. The Paris Accord is a scam to yet again like all other "deals" set forth in the past, just bilk more money out from the USA like a fat cow and put into the deep pockets of globalists! Want to know why people like Angela Merkel got that funny look on her face? Because for years AMERICAN POLITICIANS LIKE HILLARY CLINTON have been selling out their country for money, for a price, they will "cut you in." Now that Trump is here,. he IS NOT A PLAYER, he cannot be threatened or bribed.
ALL THESE OTHER COUNTRIES in EU and NATO, etc., PART OF THEIR ECONOMY IS LONG BEEN BASED ON SUCKING THE USA for MONEY!! Now that Trump is in, Merkel really meant it that for once, countries like Germany are really going to have to start carrying their own weight. And they are terrified.
Have we?But no one's paid yet…Ahhhh!!! That's where Rustic is getting it from!time to withdraw!
Not true, though, that the US is alone in committing funds.
In announcing his decision to withdraw from the Paris climate accord, President Trump also said the United States would stop contributing to the Green Climate Fund, a United Nations program that he claimed could eventually cost the country “billions and billions and billions” of dollars.
How much have rich countries pledged?
Industrialized countries have voluntarily pledged $10.3 billion since 2013 to help poorer nations reduce greenhouse gas emissions and address the effects of climate change. The United States has pledged by far the most — $3 billion, twice that of the second-largest pledger, Japan. But on a per-capita basis, many other countries have offered more than the United States. Swedes, for example, will contribute nearly $60 each.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/02/climate/trump-paris-green-climate-fund.html
The U S A was supposed to decrease hugely while other countries keep rolling right along for decades
America haters just lost big time
Move to Europe if they have it so much together the way you think
Your hero Obama, tried to run us up here in the northern plains right out of the area with fucked up frivolous regulations. Although he has never stepped foot up here so he has no clue what's best for this area - good riddance to the shit stain.Well, don't worry about that now, Rustic. Pres is rolling back those pesky regulations as quick as he can. We may be choking in the fumes of noxious smog, but we'll be RICH!It would put unnecessary and regulations that they could not afford their products.WHY?The climate accord would destroy small businesses in this country… FactThank you. But the Agreement calls for countries to submit their specific plans by 2020. How did he do these projections when the countries haven't submitted their plans yet?Alright, but I need that link, please
Sorry, I was way off.
The climate impact of all Paris INDC promises is minuscule: if we measure the impact of every nation fulfilling every promise by 2030, the total temperature reduction will be 0.048°C (0.086°F) by 2100.
- Even if we assume that these promises would be extended for another 70 years, there is still little impact: if every nation fulfills every promise by 2030, and continues to fulfill these promises faithfully until the end of the century, and there is no ‘CO₂ leakage’ to non-committed nations, the entirety of the Paris promises will reduce temperature rises by just 0.17°C (0.306°F) by 2100.
Paris climate promises will reduce temperatures by just 0.05°C in 2100 (Press release) | Bjorn Lomborg
We can't spend on something that gives us nothing back, the federal government does that for too much.Have we?But no one's paid yet…Ahhhh!!! That's where Rustic is getting it from!time to withdraw!
Not true, though, that the US is alone in committing funds.
In announcing his decision to withdraw from the Paris climate accord, President Trump also said the United States would stop contributing to the Green Climate Fund, a United Nations program that he claimed could eventually cost the country “billions and billions and billions” of dollars.
How much have rich countries pledged?
Industrialized countries have voluntarily pledged $10.3 billion since 2013 to help poorer nations reduce greenhouse gas emissions and address the effects of climate change. The United States has pledged by far the most — $3 billion, twice that of the second-largest pledger, Japan. But on a per-capita basis, many other countries have offered more than the United States. Swedes, for example, will contribute nearly $60 each.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/02/climate/trump-paris-green-climate-fund.html
Don't matter now, right? We're out of it. We're too poor to be involved. Hey--with all this money Trump is saving us, maybe he can skip those cuts to Meals on Wheels and stuff!
It all comes back to them being control freaks... they can't tolerate anyone that disagrees with them.The U S A was supposed to decrease hugely while other countries keep rolling right along for decades
America haters just lost big time
Move to Europe if they have it so much together the way you think
To be honest, I don't believe any of these posters here for the Accord are really that upset about the climate. It's been shown over and over again how for one, it would cost us a ton of money we don't have, and two, it wouldn't make all that much of a difference in the climate anyway.
What they are upset about is Trump slapping DumBama in the face. Obama was their Lord and Savior, and they worship the very ground he ever walked on. Any undoing of DumBama will be met with the very same response as the Accords.
You really should stop believing in fairy tales… Polar bears are not drowningIt's one planet, one atmosphere. Explain why the populations matter as to the amount of greenhouse gasses entering the atmosphere.First, we are not the #2 polluter, don't know where you got that crap,To get every country* in the world to agree that we should ALL clean up the environment for the planet's sake was a big accomplishment.
Still, only words. A non-binding agreement. Just talk is all it is. No accountability, no enforcement, no way to verify.
The U.S., the second largest polluter on the planet actually spearheaded the effort.
Then all the better that we step out of it! Still the same bad idea no matter, just another attempt to globalize socialize one-worldize our country.
The countries with economies large enough agreed to help out the countries that are still heating by campfire. This is the spirit of cooperation rarely if ever seen in the history of this planet before. Then, along comes Trump and says "I don't want to pay anything toward this" even though we are the #2 polluter--who cares? It's cheaper to pollute. Our coal miners need jobs. And just like that, we're out. And YOU are PROUD of that?
Yep! First, we are not the #2 polluter, don't know where you got that crap, and if all the other countries still want to do it, NOTHING STOPPING THEM! JUST QUIT TRYING TO STICK ME WITH THE BILL! The US Taxpayer is SICK AND TIRED of carry the world on our shoulders. The Accord won't make a damn bit of an effect, it would cost us hugely, and besides, Trump made it clear he would be all open to it if it can be worked out different that we aren't screwed in the ass. DAMN PROUD TO HAVE A PRESIDENT stand up for me like that and take it in the chin because it was the right thing to do for the USA.
I don't know where you've been that you DIDN'T know we were the #2 polluter. I've heard some places say we're #1, but I'll go with the EPA and what is said in my local paper this morning.
Global Greenhouse Gas Emissions Data | US EPA
Yes but is that adjusted for population???
Fossil fuels generally come from rural areas, where the air is clean and your pantries are filled. You green freaks should walk your talk by not burning any fossil fuels yourselves. And quit being fucked up control freaks telling other people what to think.Someone asked if the amount of greenhouse gasses per country had been adjusted for population. I fail to see how that matters when measuring a country's emissions overall.It's one planet, one atmosphere. Explain why the populations matter as to the amount of greenhouse gasses entering the atmosphere.
Your point being?
