Trump sells out the Kurds to Erdogan

These people have stood by us in our fight against Saddam and later ISIS. I simply do not understand this betrayal.
Trumpā€™s decision to make way for Turkey in Syria seen by critics as a Kurds betrayal

Because itā€™s Fake News. He didnā€™t sell out the Kurds. The agreement is Turkey will not attack them.

President Trump unloaded a bunch of ISIS terrorists on them. Let the Turks torture and kill them.

If they decide to do something stupid, weā€™ll boot their asses out of NATO, which we should had done back when the Ataturks failed to overthrow the Islamic radical Erdofag.

This is a win-win for us.

Wait- Turkey has announced it will launch an offensive in Northeastern Syria
Nervous Nancy has declared that ISIS is defeated.
Who is Turkey planning killing?

ā€œTurkey will soon be moving forward with its long-planned operation into Northern Syria,ā€ a statement said. ā€œThe United States Armed Forces will not support or be involved in the operation, and United States forces, having defeated the ISIS territorial ā€˜Caliphate,ā€™ will no longer be in the immediate area.
ā€

What is the Turkish objective?
Turkey will carry out a military operation in a Kurdish-controlled area east of the Euphrates in northern Syria, Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan said on Sunday, its third offensive to dislodge Kurdish militia fighters close to its border.

Turkey to launch offensive in Kurdish-controlled area in northern Syria: Erdogan

Turkey considers the Kurds 'terrorists'- and is going to wipe them out.

No wonder you are giddy with happiness at Trump deserting the Kurds.

Who exactly are the quotes from in the link?
 
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EVILmohammedā€¬
Mohammed: islams most 'perfect man'
* Beheaded enemies; 600/900 Jewish men in 1 massacre.
* Had young Jewish boys beheaded after inspecting them for pubic hair.
* Ordered murder, torture & terrorisation of Christians & Jews if they didn't convert to Islam.
* Assassinated people for insulting him, or Islam.
* Established totalitarian rule
* Had followers & their families beaten or burnt alive for missing prayer.
* Ordered the extermination, torture & terrorisation of kafirs (non - believers)
* Instigated 60 massacres (participated in 27 of them)
* Owned & sold slaves.
* Wouldn't befriend Christians or Jews.
* Subjugated & oppressed women, requiring them to cover their faces.
* Married his daughter in law.
* Approved prostitution.
* Encouraged rape & wife beating.
* Murdered prisoners of war & committed acts of terror.
* Advocated suicide attacks.
* Executed apostates & homosexuals.
* Abolished adoption& was the ultimate liar.
* Promoted honour killings of women & children.
* Stoned adulators to death, and had also stoned a woman to death after she had given birth.
* Ordered thieves hands/feet chopped off.
* Looted / plundered & preached hate for people of other religions & forced conversion to Islam.
* Extorted money & allowed executions, beheadings, rape & slavery.

20 Commandments of Mohammad the founder of Islam
1. Thou shall Rape, Marry, and Divorce Pre-pubescent Girls. Koran 65:4
2. Thou shall have Sex Slaves and Work Slaves. Koran 4:3, 4:24, 5:89, 33:50, 58:3, 70:30
3. Thou shall Beat Sex Slaves, Work Slaves, and Wives. Koran 4:34
4. Thou shall have 4 Muslim male witnesses to prove rape. Koran 24:13
5. Thou shall Kill those who insult Islam or Mohammed. Koran 33:57
6. Thou shall Crucify and Amputate non-Muslims. Koran 8:12, 47:4
7. Thou shall Kill non-Muslims to guarantee receiving 72 virgins in heaven. Koran 9:111
8. Thou shall Kill anyone who leaves Islam. Koran 2:217, 4:89
9. Thou shall Behead non-Muslims. Koran 8:12, 47:4
10. Thou shall Kill AND be Killed for Islamic Allah. Koran 9:5
11. Thou shall Terrorize non-Muslims. Koran 8:12, 8:60
12. Thou shall Steal and Rob from non-Muslims. Koran Chapter 8 (Booty/Spoils of War)
13. Thou shall Lie to Strengthen Islam. Koran 3:28, 16:106
14. Thou shall Fight non-Muslim even if you don't want to. Koran 2:216
15. Thou shall not take non-Muslims as friends. Koran 5:51
16. Thou shall Call non-Muslims Pigs and Apes. Koran 5:60, 7:166, 16:106
17. Thou shall Treat non-Muslims as the vilest creatures deserving no mercy. Koran 98:6
18. Thou shall Treat non-Muslims as sworn enemies. Koran 4:101
19. Thou shall Kill non-Muslims for not converting to Islam. Koran 9:29
20. Thou shall Extort non-Muslims to keep Islam strong. Koran 9:29.



Islam/Muslims in a nutshell, Mohammed is their God and they absolutely obey his laws. That is why Muslims cannot tolerate any other beliefs/religions in Muslim controlled countriesā€¦ That is a fact
Muhammed was another con artist starting a religion for power and riches like L. Ron Hubbard...like Joseph Smith....like Paul.
Muhammed is Islam, Muhammad is the Muslim god...
 
These people have stood by us in our fight against Saddam and later ISIS. I simply do not understand this betrayal.
Trumpā€™s decision to make way for Turkey in Syria seen by critics as a Kurds betrayal
Agreed....

I don't know what he's trying to do here.


We have an airbase in Turkey, maybe He's selling out the Kurds to maintain that. Not sure. I dont agree its a good thing either. We need to be more faithful to people who have been our Ally.
 
Hey dumbass, the actual deal is about the Turks taking custody of the terrorists
No it isn't. You arent very bright to believe Trump's after-the-fact, madeup nonsense.

Pay attention:

Trump says ISIS is Syria is not our problem. So its not a concession to us by Turkey for Turkey to take on fighting ISIS in Syria.

See,that's the problem with the mentally ill president...he is incoherent...
 
And then theres the fact that Trump has business interests in Turkey, which raises the spectre that he may be putting his personal interests ahead of the interests of the United States. Again.
 
These people have stood by us in our fight against Saddam and later ISIS. I simply do not understand this betrayal.
Trumpā€™s decision to make way for Turkey in Syria seen by critics as a Kurds betrayal
Yeah, how did toppling Hussein work out?

well enough-----relative tp ignoring and allowing the activities of the genocidal maniac
It created ISIS-but I am an isolationist anyway
Pulling out created ISIS. Thank Obama
 
These people have stood by us in our fight against Saddam and later ISIS. I simply do not understand this betrayal.
Trumpā€™s decision to make way for Turkey in Syria seen by critics as a Kurds betrayal
Yeah, how did toppling Hussein work out?

well enough-----relative tp ignoring and allowing the activities of the genocidal maniac
It created ISIS-but I am an isolationist anyway
Pulling out created ISIS. Thank Obama

ISIS already existed
 
These people have stood by us in our fight against Saddam and later ISIS. I simply do not understand this betrayal.
Trumpā€™s decision to make way for Turkey in Syria seen by critics as a Kurds betrayal
Yeah, how did toppling Hussein work out?

well enough-----relative tp ignoring and allowing the activities of the genocidal maniac
It created ISIS-but I am an isolationist anyway
Pulling out created ISIS. Thank Obama

ISIS already existed
They weren't acting up until Obama started pulling troops

The Islamic State ā€“ also known as ISIS, ISIL, or Daesh ā€“ emerged from the remnants of al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI), a local offshoot of al Qaeda founded by Abu Musab al Zarqawi in 2004. It faded into obscurity for several years after the surge of U.S. troops to Iraq in 2007. But it began to reemerge in 2011. Over the next few years, it took advantage of growing instability in Iraq and Syria to carry out attacks and bolster its ranks.

The group changed its name to the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) in 2013. ISIS launched an offensive on Mosul and Tikrit in June 2014. On June 29, ISIS leader Abu Bakr al Baghdadi announced the formation of a caliphate stretching from Aleppo in Syria to Diyala in Iraq, and renamed the group the Islamic State.
 
Yeah, how did toppling Hussein work out?

well enough-----relative tp ignoring and allowing the activities of the genocidal maniac
It created ISIS-but I am an isolationist anyway
Pulling out created ISIS. Thank Obama

ISIS already existed
They weren't acting up until Obama started pulling troops

The Islamic State ā€“ also known as ISIS, ISIL, or Daesh ā€“ emerged from the remnants of al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI), a local offshoot of al Qaeda founded by Abu Musab al Zarqawi in 2004. It faded into obscurity for several years after the surge of U.S. troops to Iraq in 2007. But it began to reemerge in 2011. Over the next few years, it took advantage of growing instability in Iraq and Syria to carry out attacks and bolster its ranks.

The group changed its name to the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) in 2013. ISIS launched an offensive on Mosul and Tikrit in June 2014. On June 29, ISIS leader Abu Bakr al Baghdadi announced the formation of a caliphate stretching from Aleppo in Syria to Diyala in Iraq, and renamed the group the Islamic State.

they just took advantage LOCALLY to the power vacuum IN IRAQ-----and that's it
 
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EVILmohammedā€¬
Mohammed: islams most 'perfect man'
* Beheaded enemies; 600/900 Jewish men in 1 massacre.
* Had young Jewish boys beheaded after inspecting them for pubic hair.
* Ordered murder, torture & terrorisation of Christians & Jews if they didn't convert to Islam.
* Assassinated people for insulting him, or Islam.
* Established totalitarian rule
* Had followers & their families beaten or burnt alive for missing prayer.
* Ordered the extermination, torture & terrorisation of kafirs (non - believers)
* Instigated 60 massacres (participated in 27 of them)
* Owned & sold slaves.
* Wouldn't befriend Christians or Jews.
* Subjugated & oppressed women, requiring them to cover their faces.
* Married his daughter in law.
* Approved prostitution.
* Encouraged rape & wife beating.
* Murdered prisoners of war & committed acts of terror.
* Advocated suicide attacks.
* Executed apostates & homosexuals.
* Abolished adoption& was the ultimate liar.
* Promoted honour killings of women & children.
* Stoned adulators to death, and had also stoned a woman to death after she had given birth.
* Ordered thieves hands/feet chopped off.
* Looted / plundered & preached hate for people of other religions & forced conversion to Islam.
* Extorted money & allowed executions, beheadings, rape & slavery.

20 Commandments of Mohammad the founder of Islam
1. Thou shall Rape, Marry, and Divorce Pre-pubescent Girls. Koran 65:4
2. Thou shall have Sex Slaves and Work Slaves. Koran 4:3, 4:24, 5:89, 33:50, 58:3, 70:30
3. Thou shall Beat Sex Slaves, Work Slaves, and Wives. Koran 4:34
4. Thou shall have 4 Muslim male witnesses to prove rape. Koran 24:13
5. Thou shall Kill those who insult Islam or Mohammed. Koran 33:57
6. Thou shall Crucify and Amputate non-Muslims. Koran 8:12, 47:4
7. Thou shall Kill non-Muslims to guarantee receiving 72 virgins in heaven. Koran 9:111
8. Thou shall Kill anyone who leaves Islam. Koran 2:217, 4:89
9. Thou shall Behead non-Muslims. Koran 8:12, 47:4
10. Thou shall Kill AND be Killed for Islamic Allah. Koran 9:5
11. Thou shall Terrorize non-Muslims. Koran 8:12, 8:60
12. Thou shall Steal and Rob from non-Muslims. Koran Chapter 8 (Booty/Spoils of War)
13. Thou shall Lie to Strengthen Islam. Koran 3:28, 16:106
14. Thou shall Fight non-Muslim even if you don't want to. Koran 2:216
15. Thou shall not take non-Muslims as friends. Koran 5:51
16. Thou shall Call non-Muslims Pigs and Apes. Koran 5:60, 7:166, 16:106
17. Thou shall Treat non-Muslims as the vilest creatures deserving no mercy. Koran 98:6
18. Thou shall Treat non-Muslims as sworn enemies. Koran 4:101
19. Thou shall Kill non-Muslims for not converting to Islam. Koran 9:29
20. Thou shall Extort non-Muslims to keep Islam strong. Koran 9:29.



Islam/Muslims in a nutshell, Mohammed is their God and they absolutely obey his laws. That is why Muslims cannot tolerate any other beliefs/religions in Muslim controlled countriesā€¦ That is a fact
Muhammed was another con artist starting a religion for power and riches like L. Ron Hubbard...like Joseph Smith....like Paul.
Muhammed is Islam, Muhammad is the Muslim god...

Not true. You should have not slept through your world civilizations class in middle school.
 
All of yall whining about the decision go down to the recruiting station and sign on up! Or fly overseas and join one of their militaries and fight for them!
 
The bad decision was that worthless asshole Obama screwing it up in the first place.
Oh please. Stop it. We could do this all day. Bush lied us into Iraq. That's the number one problem we have. If he would have just stayed in Afganistan this domino effect wouldn't be happening.

Trump and you can't keep blaming Obama. Especially when Trump said he knows more than the Generals and that he would fix the middle east quickly. Did he lie?

We told you so. These are now Trump's wars, not Obama's wars. You guys wanted to play that shit on Obama's watch well now it's your turn.

Remember Trump said "leadership, whatever happens, you're responsible"? Well he's responsible.

And listen asshole. This is a classic mistake Reagan made. Ever watch Charlie Wilson's war? He warned Reagan not to abandon the taliban in Afganistan. Reagan created Bin Ladin. Now Trump is going to abandon the Kurds who have been helping us? And you think this is a good decision? He's just going to make more terrorists out of former allies.

Trump's decisions today can't be blamed on Obama, you fucking idiot. Stop it.

America is abandoning Kurdish allies who stood on the front line in the years-long fight against ISIS.

Ankara considers many of the Kurds to be terrorists who are allied with Kurdish separatists inside Turkey. However, U.S. forces on the ground in Syria recruited and trained the Syrian Democratic Forces, or SDF, which bore the brunt of the fighting on the ground against Islamic State fighters, assisted by U.S. airstrikes.

Wait a minute. You mean Trump armed and partnered with terrorists? Didn't Republicans fault Obama for doing this?

In December, Trump abruptly announced that U.S. troops would be withdrawn from Syria ā€” a move that elicited praise from Turkey but sparked criticism among Washington's allies and within the president's own Cabinet, where the move prompted the resignation of then-Defense Secretary Jim Mattis.

Erdogan has threatened for months to launch an assault against Kurds in Northern Syria. But U.S. lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have warned that allowing Ankara a free hand against the Kurds would send a troubling message about U.S. commitment to its allies.

Kurdish forces, not the U.S., have kept ISIS fighters, sympathizers and family members in makeshift camps in Northern Syria.

The White House statement said, "Turkey will now be responsible for all ISIS fighters in the area captured over the past two years in the wake of the defeat of the territorial 'Caliphate' by the United States."

So in other words the ISIS fighters will get set free. Got it.

The only way I'll be happy is if Turkey kills them all.

You are confused Moon Bat.

Obama was a fucking idiot that screwed up everything he touched and Middle East foreign policy was no exception. That asshole is the one that enabled ISIS, fucked up the victory in Iraq, bombed Libya for no fucking reason, created the mess in Syria and gave billions of dollars to the Iranian regime that has fostered terrorism all over the Middle East. We will be cleaning up Obama's mess for years.

Trump is getting us out of an entanglement that we had no business being in. However, you stupid Moon Bats are so afflicted with the mental illness Trump Derangement Syndrome that you can't give Trump credit for non interventionism.

Of course you are are the same turkeys that said Trump was a war monger when he was elected so it is hard for you to admit you were wrong, isn't it?

By the way, speaking of Iraq, since you brought it up. Just remember that Crooked Hillary, John Kerry and most of the Democrats that you stupid Moon Bats support backed the invasion of Iraq so you can take your partisan bullshit and cram it.

If Obama would have just picked up and left the middle east a mess I'm sure you would have seen the error in that decision.

But because Trump's doing it you paint it in the best possible light.

Ok, so when ISIS takes back over, blame Trump. But you won't.

And it was Bush who started this mess. He should have never broken Iraq. But you supported that fucker didn't you?
Lol
I agree with you to a degree, but to say that anything was going right and/or peaceful before bush jr. is fucking delusional so you need to shut the fuck up on the subject.

Muslims are not happy less they are fighting and killing somebody including each other you fucking retard.

I think the USA has been at war more and longer than any other country on earth. Recent years. We're constantly at war. Hot wars, cold wars.
We have been at war more than peace in our history if you do the math and we include Plains Indian wars.
 
These people have stood by us in our fight against Saddam and later ISIS. I simply do not understand this betrayal.
Trumpā€™s decision to make way for Turkey in Syria seen by critics as a Kurds betrayal


I just saw a headline that the number of troops to be moved.....25. Total.
But their presence there helped to keep Turkey, Russia, and Syria from moving into Kurdish lands. I just donā€™t like the idea of turning our backs on a loyal ally.
 
Syria has never been in the USA's sphere of influence. The Kurds cannot hide behind the USA forever and we cannot house and feed the European based captured ISIS fighters forever.

Unless you support our forces there indefinitely, then accept that there will never be a good time to leave. If there is never a good time, then the best time is now.

We met our End State. Go home.

I know empire is a habit, time to start breaking it.

CDR Salamander: We've met our End State; let the locals work it out in N. Syria
 

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