Trump threatens extortion

[Faun]

No Democrat I know of threatened to compromise national security in an attempt to prevent being investigated. Of whom do you speak?

So you think exposing corrupt practices in the Justice Department threatens national security?

No, I think releasing classified documents for the purpose of getting even with political opponents can. The purpose of declassifying such documents is when doing so no longer exposes national security. Not to blackmail one’s political opponents into not investigating him.

What makes you think releasing these particular classified documents woud threaten national security?

I said it could, not that it necessarily would. Obviously, I'm not privy to its contents. But given material is classified to protect national security, declassifying it for the purpose of blackmailing political opponents so they hopefully won't investigate the president, certainly poses that risk. That's why we've never seen a president make such a careless threat.

You'd care about this nation if you weren't such a committed cult member who puts the president above everything else.

Spoken like a true cult member who puts Democratic politics above the welfare and security of the nation. The Democrats are threatening to squander tax payer money on investigations for the purpose of harassing the President and driving his approval ratings down instead of dealing with the nation's issues, and you think that's just fine, but you make up nonsense about the documents he is threatening to release being a danger to national security. Have you no shame at all or is it you have no intelligence at all?

LOLOLOL

You crack me up. You don't even know what investigations might pop up -- yet here you are, already claiming they'll be "squandering tax payer money." But you do reveal more than you intend. Was "harassing the president and driving his approval ratings down" the reason Republicans re-opened Whitewater? And then parlayed that into endless investigations like travelgate, filegate, vincefostergate, etc...

Nah, it is most certainly you who's swallowed the Kool-Aid. Every last drop.

 

[Faun]

So you think exposing corrupt practices in the Justice Department threatens national security?

No, I think releasing classified documents for the purpose of getting even with political opponents can. The purpose of declassifying such documents is when doing so no longer exposes national security. Not to blackmail one’s political opponents into not investigating him.

What makes you think releasing these particular classified documents woud threaten national security?

I said it could, not that it necessarily would. Obviously, I'm not privy to its contents. But given material is classified to protect national security, declassifying it for the purpose of blackmailing political opponents so they hopefully won't investigate the president, certainly poses that risk. That's why we've never seen a president make such a careless threat.

You'd care about this nation if you weren't such a committed cult member who puts the president above everything else.

Given the ongoing Mueller investigation

Offering a potential pardon to Manafort and using presidential powers to block an investigation of criminal acts is obviously obstruction of justice

What's ethically wrong with offering Manafort a pardon?

None of the crimes that Manafort was tried on has anything to do with President Trump.

Because Manafort's legal challenges with Mueller aren't over. Trump is effectively obstructing Mueller's investigation now.

 

[rightwinger]

So you think exposing corrupt practices in the Justice Department threatens national security?

No, I think releasing classified documents for the purpose of getting even with political opponents can. The purpose of declassifying such documents is when doing so no longer exposes national security. Not to blackmail one’s political opponents into not investigating him.

What makes you think releasing these particular classified documents woud threaten national security?

I said it could, not that it necessarily would. Obviously, I'm not privy to its contents. But given material is classified to protect national security, declassifying it for the purpose of blackmailing political opponents so they hopefully won't investigate the president, certainly poses that risk. That's why we've never seen a president make such a careless threat.

You'd care about this nation if you weren't such a committed cult member who puts the president above everything else.

Given the ongoing Mueller investigation

Offering a potential pardon to Manafort and using presidential powers to block an investigation of criminal acts is obviously obstruction of justice

What's ethically wrong with offering Manafort a pardon?

None of the crimes that Manafort was tried on has anything to do with President Trump.

Manafort has a plea deal that involves his time as Trumps campaign manager. If Trump offers to pardon other offenses in return for silence, that is criminal

 

[Faun]

No Democrat I know of threatened to compromise national security in an attempt to prevent being investigated. Of whom do you speak?

How does this compromise "national security"? There isn't a single bit of corroboration as to the alleged ruination of hotel mattresses at the Moscow Ritz Carlton. The people have a right to know

The purpose of declassifying government secrets is when doing so is no longer a threat to national security.

Trump is threatening to declassify government secrets in an attempt to scare Democrats from investigating him.

The dirty tricks that hillaryand company did are not National Security. It’s illegal in the first place to classify material to cover up criminal activity or because its embarrassing.

It looks like you're posting on the wrong site. You should be over at www.ihatethatfuckingbitchhitlery.com

I tried the link you suggested but there is nothing there, just like Russian Collusion.

LOL

Keep trying it over and over. Eventually, it might work for you. Don't give up!

 

[Faun]

No, I think releasing classified documents for the purpose of getting even with political opponents can. The purpose of declassifying such documents is when doing so no longer exposes national security. Not to blackmail one’s political opponents into not investigating him.

How can it be blackmail if nobody did anything wrong?


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It’s blackmail regardless of whether or not there was wrong doing.

If they did nothing wrong, then why are they and you so afraid of the President releasing these documents?

I'm not afraid. Why would I be? The first time Nunes tried that, it blew up in his face. Then Trump tried it, and it blew up in his. Despite their incessant crying that folks would go to jail over the material they would eventually release, when the whole picture was painted, no one had actually done anything legally offensible and no one was charged with any crimes.

So it's not fear that drives me on this thread -- it's outrage that a president could be so scared and careless, that he'd risk the nation's security to use classified material as a tool to try to squelch the Congress from doing their job of investigating potential wrong-doing on his part.

Again you assert the documents that might be released would threaten national security when you have no grounds for believing that to be true. Once again you demonstrate you have no idea why you harbor this irrational hatred of the President.

Of course they might harm national security. There's a reason they are classified now.

 

[Polishprince]

Manafort has a plea deal that involves his time as Trumps campaign manager. If Trump offers to pardon other offenses in return for silence, that is criminal

That's fair enough.

But if President Trump offers Mr. Manafort a pardon for the crimes he was already convicted of and with no conditions, it isn't a problem

 

[rightwinger]

No, I think releasing classified documents for the purpose of getting even with political opponents can. The purpose of declassifying such documents is when doing so no longer exposes national security. Not to blackmail one’s political opponents into not investigating him.

What makes you think releasing these particular classified documents woud threaten national security?

I said it could, not that it necessarily would. Obviously, I'm not privy to its contents. But given material is classified to protect national security, declassifying it for the purpose of blackmailing political opponents so they hopefully won't investigate the president, certainly poses that risk. That's why we've never seen a president make such a careless threat.

You'd care about this nation if you weren't such a committed cult member who puts the president above everything else.

Given the ongoing Mueller investigation

Offering a potential pardon to Manafort and using presidential powers to block an investigation of criminal acts is obviously obstruction of justice

What's ethically wrong with offering Manafort a pardon?

None of the crimes that Manafort was tried on has anything to do with President Trump.

Because Manafort's legal challenges with Mueller aren't over. Trump is effectively obstructing Mueller's investigation now.

Witness tampering and obstruction

 

[g5000]

The dirty "access hollywood tape" trick that the Liberal NBC network and the Bush Family was defeated by Trump by flying in all of the broads that the Clintons assaulted or harassed over the years.

At the very same time he was suborning his lawyer to break the law and pay off his porn star mistress.

This won't end well for Crooked Lyin' Crazy Donald. He is guilty of everything he accuses others of being.

 

[rightwinger]

Manafort has a plea deal that involves his time as Trumps campaign manager. If Trump offers to pardon other offenses in return for silence, that is criminal

That's fair enough.

But if President Trump offers Mr. Manafort a pardon for the crimes he was already convicted of and with no conditions, it isn't a problem

Given Manaforts involvement in Trumps current case .....it is a problem

 

[Polishprince]

You crack me up. You don't even know what investigations might pop up -- yet here you are, already claiming they'll be "squandering tax payer money." But you do reveal more than you intend. Was "harassing the president and driving his approval ratings down" the reason Republicans re-opened Whitewater? And then parlayed that into endless investigations like travelgate, filegate, vincefostergate, etc...

Nah, it is most certainly you who's swallowed the Kool-Aid. Every last drop.

Anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear can see what is happening.

Mr. Mueller is charged with finding a reason, any reason, to get President Trump out of there. And he's willing to listen to the stupidest, wildest theory out there, whatever it takes.

There is no way in hell that Mueller can just wrap it up and say "no collusion between Trump and Uncle Pooty - the 2016 election was on the up and up"


If he were to actually write a report exonerating Trump and allowing him to stay in office- he would be literally crucified by the Liberal Media that now champions him.

So Mueller is stuck in office until January 20,2025 at noon- when we can expect his report.

 

[Polishprince]

Manafort has a plea deal that involves his time as Trumps campaign manager. If Trump offers to pardon other offenses in return for silence, that is criminal

That's fair enough.

But if President Trump offers Mr. Manafort a pardon for the crimes he was already convicted of and with no conditions, it isn't a problem

Given Manaforts involvement in Trumps current case .....it is a problem

Trump doesn't have a current case.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

How is this "extortion"? If Mueller and the libs have nothing to hide, why would they care about this at all?

Since when does a president of the U.S. release classified documents to the public in order to get even with his political opponents?

Since the libs militarise our fbi, cia dea and whatever 3 letter agency’s to rig an election and overthrow our legally elected Persident. Release it all President Trump. By the way, you’re not used to a Republican playing the game like a democrat are you.

No Democrat I know of threatened to compromise national security in an attempt to prevent being investigated. Of whom do you speak?

Open your eyes, everything hillary sent to her bathroom server was copied by our enemys.

Well there's your version, that of an Internet warrior...

… and then there's the FBI's version …

FBI: No evidence Clinton server hacked despite Trump tweet

Take a guess at who I believe....

And the best part:

Comey said at a July 2016 news conference that the FBI did not find direct evidence that the sever had been successfully hacked though he also acknowledged that, “given the nature of the system and of the actors potentially involved,” it would have been unlikely for the bureau to find such direct evidence.

 

[Polishprince]

The dirty "access hollywood tape" trick that the Liberal NBC network and the Bush Family was defeated by Trump by flying in all of the broads that the Clintons assaulted or harassed over the years.

At the very same time he was suborning his lawyer to break the law and pay off his porn star mistress.

This won't end well for Crooked Lyin' Crazy Donald. He is guilty of everything he accuses others of being.

Its not a crime to payoff a mistress, or in this case a hoe who alleges a sexual encounter. It might have been a crime if the money for the payoff came from his campaign, but it came straight from Mr. Trump.

 

[Faun]

You crack me up. You don't even know what investigations might pop up -- yet here you are, already claiming they'll be "squandering tax payer money." But you do reveal more than you intend. Was "harassing the president and driving his approval ratings down" the reason Republicans re-opened Whitewater? And then parlayed that into endless investigations like travelgate, filegate, vincefostergate, etc...

Nah, it is most certainly you who's swallowed the Kool-Aid. Every last drop.

Anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear can see what is happening.

Mr. Mueller is charged with finding a reason, any reason, to get President Trump out of there. And he's willing to listen to the stupidest, wildest theory out there, whatever it takes.

There is no way in hell that Mueller can just wrap it up and say "no collusion between Trump and Uncle Pooty - the 2016 election was on the up and up"


If he were to actually write a report exonerating Trump and allowing him to stay in office- he would be literally crucified by the Liberal Media that now champions him.

So Mueller is stuck in office until January 20,2025 at noon- when we can expect his report.

Try harder to pay attention. We're talking about the next Congress, not Mueller.

As far as Mueller, he's a Republican. He was selected by a Republican who was filling in for another Republican, both of whom were appointed by a Republican president who was elected by Republicans.

 

[g5000]

The dirty "access hollywood tape" trick that the Liberal NBC network and the Bush Family was defeated by Trump by flying in all of the broads that the Clintons assaulted or harassed over the years.

At the very same time he was suborning his lawyer to break the law and pay off his porn star mistress.

This won't end well for Crooked Lyin' Crazy Donald. He is guilty of everything he accuses others of being.

Its not a crime to payoff a mistress, or in this case a hoe who alleges a sexual encounter. It might have been a crime if the money for the payoff came from his campaign, but it came straight from Mr. Trump.

Cohen Says He Broke Campaign Finance Laws on Trump's Orders


President Donald Trump’s former attorney admitted that he violated campaign-finance laws ahead of the 2016 election -- at the direction of Trump himself.

Michael D. Cohen made that explosive assertion during a hastily convened appearance in a federal courthouse in Manhattan on Tuesday, where he pleaded guilty to eight counts of tax fraud, false statements to a bank and campaign-finance violations. He faces more than five years in prison under federal guidelines.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Since the libs militarise our fbi, cia dea and whatever 3 letter agency’s to rig an election and overthrow our legally elected Persident. Release it all President Trump. By the way, you’re not used to a Republican playing the game like a democrat are you.

No Democrat I know of threatened to compromise national security in an attempt to prevent being investigated. Of whom do you speak?

So you think exposing corrupt practices in the Justice Department threatens national security?

No, I think releasing classified documents for the purpose of getting even with political opponents can. The purpose of declassifying such documents is when doing so no longer exposes national security. Not to blackmail one’s political opponents into not investigating him.

How can it be blackmail if nobody did anything wrong?


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It’s blackmail regardless of whether or not there was wrong doing.

No, blackmail is when you have criminal evidence against somebody and are threatening to reveal that evidence unless your demands are met. If there is no criminal evidence, there can't be blackmail.

 

[g5000]

So...as I was saying...while Crooked Lyin' Crazy Donald was parading Clinton's women before the cameras, he was suborning his own lawyer to pay off his porn star mistress who he fucked while Melania was home nursing Barron.

 

[g5000]

No Democrat I know of threatened to compromise national security in an attempt to prevent being investigated. Of whom do you speak?

So you think exposing corrupt practices in the Justice Department threatens national security?

No, I think releasing classified documents for the purpose of getting even with political opponents can. The purpose of declassifying such documents is when doing so no longer exposes national security. Not to blackmail one’s political opponents into not investigating him.

How can it be blackmail if nobody did anything wrong?


Sent from my iPad using USMessageBoard.com

It’s blackmail regardless of whether or not there was wrong doing.

No, blackmail is when you have criminal evidence against somebody and are threatening to reveal that evidence unless your demands are met. If there is no criminal evidence, there can't be blackmail.

Then why is Trump threatening to release the classified documents?

He clearly believes you rubes are stupid enough to read into them what he tells you to bleev.

 

[Polishprince]

The dirty "access hollywood tape" trick that the Liberal NBC network and the Bush Family was defeated by Trump by flying in all of the broads that the Clintons assaulted or harassed over the years.

At the very same time he was suborning his lawyer to break the law and pay off his porn star mistress.

This won't end well for Crooked Lyin' Crazy Donald. He is guilty of everything he accuses others of being.

Its not a crime to payoff a mistress, or in this case a hoe who alleges a sexual encounter. It might have been a crime if the money for the payoff came from his campaign, but it came straight from Mr. Trump.

Cohen Says He Broke Campaign Finance Laws on Trump's Orders


President Donald Trump’s former attorney admitted that he violated campaign-finance laws ahead of the 2016 election -- at the direction of Trump himself.

Michael D. Cohen made that explosive assertion during a hastily convened appearance in a federal courthouse in Manhattan on Tuesday, where he pleaded guilty to eight counts of tax fraud, false statements to a bank and campaign-finance violations. He faces more than five years in prison under federal guidelines.

Cohen pleaded guilty to a non-crime because that's what Mr. Mueller wanted and Cohen was intimidated.


In any event, what kind of "crime" would it be? Does it really make a difference if President Trump paid off Ms. Daniels from his own bank account, or makes the cash contribution to his campaign and has the campaign fund make the pay off?

There is no limit on how much someone can contribute to their own campaign.

Even if we stipulate that it was a technical violation of campaign law, there is no benefit to Trump either way and Trump was only relying on the advise of his attorney Mr. Cohen as to the "legal" way of making the payoff.

 

[Polishprince]

So...as I was saying...while Crooked Lyin' Crazy Donald was parading Clinton's women before the cameras, he was suborning his own lawyer to pay off his porn star mistress who he fucked while Melania was home nursing Barron.

The payoff to Ms. Daniels was legal, regardless of whether Mr. Trump did her or not.

BTW, I don't think that Trump fucked her anyhow. Ms. Daniels testified in her book that Mr. Trump has a small penis. But Trump's testimony in his debate with Little Marco proves the exact opposite. Daniels was probably having relations with someone else.