Trump Throws Pro-Lifers Under the Bus

[jwoodie]

Conservatives celebrated the overturning of Roe v Wade with the unrealistic expectation that abortion bans would start popping up in state after state.

Why do you always begin your posts with a false statement?

 

[Coyote]

It also cuts down on future prison space needed.
Morals is a fine line to establish, religious values vs LGBTQ+, etc.

Religious values like stoning adulterers, executing homosexuals?

 

[Coyote]

Why do you always begin your posts with a false statement?

How is it it false?

 

[Synthaholic]

The past two days, Trump has been unable to answer if a man can become a woman and has criticized pro-life legislation, two high profile issues among his base.

I don't think the base cares, really. The Trump politicians do, because of who their backers are, and parrot that to the base, who cheer along. But plenty of trailer trash Trumpers and Southern party girls do not want abortion banned.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

When you go by the Constitution, you go by the law.
Tenth amendment is there for a reason.

Tell that to the evangelicals, or Mike Pence.

With this Supreme Court, there would be no rejection of national anti-abortion legislation if it were worded carefully. After all if corporations can be treated as “persons” … why would our courts not also treat zygotes, tiny embryos and fetuses as legal “persons” too? The anti-abortion movement has been pushing for exactly this for years.

God forbid this MAGA Republican Party were to sweep into power with control of both Houses & the Presidency, because then a newly confident right and evangelical movement — along with the unprincipled and ever flexible Donald Trump — would definitely push for a national law.

Besides, the 10th Amendment does not mention abortion or birth control or gay rights to marry either — nor does it say these intimate issues must be decided by states. All it says is:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Roe vs. Wade was legal and Constitutional and a reasonable compromise decision that recognized limited state interests in regulating abortion in the last trimester of pregnancy.

The most intimate fundamental rights of women are involved here. The natural procreative “power” to carry a fertilized human egg to birth resides in women’s own bodies. The “people” most directly effected — the person whose body provides the life sustaining shelter and sustenance for the unborn for the entire period before birth — is the pregnant women herself. She is also the one generally in the best position — hopefully in consultation with her doctor and trusted loved ones — to make a personal decision about whether or not she wants to carry an unwanted pregnancy to term and give birth.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Politically, libs killing unborn children is a plus for repubs

because it removes a lot of future democrat voters

But morally its wrong

Wrong.

Abortion bans jeopardize the health and lives of all women.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

NO!! Conservatives wanted to take abortion away from the Feds and send it back to the States where it can be voted on.

This is a lie.

For authoritarian conservatives, overturning Roe had nothing to do with “states’ rights” and everything to do with compelling conformity, punishing dissent, and violating the rights of citizens.

“Alabama Attorney General Steve Marshall (R) argued in a court filing Wednesday that he can file criminal charges against people who assist those getting abortion care outside the state.”

Alabama AG tells court he has right to prosecute out-of-state abortion aid

Alabama Attorney General Steve Marshall (R) argued in a court filing Wednesday that he can file criminal charges against people who assist those getting abortion care outside the state. Marshall argued that people who organize travel for those leaving Alabama to receive an abortion, for example...

news.yahoo.com

 

[Leo123]

This is a lie.

For authoritarian conservatives, overturning Roe had nothing to do with “states’ rights” and everything to do with compelling conformity, punishing dissent, and violating the rights of citizens.

“Alabama Attorney General Steve Marshall (R) argued in a court filing Wednesday that he can file criminal charges against people who assist those getting abortion care outside the state.”

Alabama AG tells court he has right to prosecute out-of-state abortion aid

Alabama Attorney General Steve Marshall (R) argued in a court filing Wednesday that he can file criminal charges against people who assist those getting abortion care outside the state. Marshall argued that people who organize travel for those leaving Alabama to receive an abortion, for example...

news.yahoo.com

Why does a woman need some organization to assist her?

 

[Crepitus]

So? That's the act of a single media-whoring Senator from a single state. He has no power to do his will and in reality, he's always been nothing but a self-interested power-hungry shill of DC.

He's one of cheeto jesus's top supporters.

I mean big time. His lips are oranger than almost anyone else's.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Unborn humans have rights

And pregnant women have none – the right’s war on women continues.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Why does a woman need some organization to assist her?

More government, bigger government at the expense of individual liberty – it’s who and what conservatives are.

Including violating the right of citizens to move freely about the country.

If this were about “states’ rights,” conservatives would respect the right of states to protect the reproductive autonomy of women, not criminally prosecute citizens seeking to travel to other states where’s it’s perfectly legal to terminate a pregnancy.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

Roe vs. Wade was legal and Constitutional and a reasonable compromise decision

Fucking retarded.

Read the 10th Amendment. Read Article I, Section 8.

There is no "right to abortion" and the feds have no say.

Fuck off.

 

[jwoodie]

How is it it false?

Conservatives celebrated overturning Roe v. Wade because it was the worst SCOTUS decision since "separate but equal." There were NO Constitutional grounds for either decision. Pro-lifers were disappointed that abortion wasn't outlawed.

 

[Synthaholic]

When you go by the Constitution, you go by the law.

Tenth amendment is there for a reason.

So is the 14th amendment.

 

[CarsomyrPlusSix]

And pregnant women have none – the right’s war on women continues.

It not being legal to attack and kill innocents isn't a sign of a "war," dipshit.

And if it were, you would deserve to be on the receiving end of justified violence, scumbag.

 

[Synthaholic]

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If it weren't for my strong pro-life feelings, I would agree that the big-ass can of RAID is called for.

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You don't give two shits about children.

 

[jwoodie]

Roe vs. Wade was legal and Constitutional and a reasonable compromise decision that recognized limited state interests in regulating abortion in the last trimester of pregnancy.

A reasonable compromise? Is that what you think is the Constitutional duty of the Supreme Court? This was a political decision that usurped legislative authority and effectively provided for unlimited abortions throughout the U.S.

 

[Synthaholic]

Link for a Republican drive for a nationwide ban please.

When will you ever learn?


Rep. Paul A. Gosar (Arizona)
Rep. Russ Fulcher (Idaho)
Rep. Tom Emmer (Minnesota)
Rep. Ken Buck (Colorado)
Rep. Mike Bost (Illinois)
Rep. Jack Bergman (Michigan)
Rep. Barry Moore (Alabama)
Rep. David B. McKinley (West Virginia)
Rep. Thomas Massie (Kentucky)
Rep. Jake LaTurner (Kansas)
Rep. Doug Lamborn (Colorado)
Rep. Clay Higgins (Louisiana)
Rep. Yvette Herrell (New Mexico)
Rep. Kevin Hern (Oklahoma)
Rep. Daniel Webster (Florida)
Rep. Nancy Mace (South Carolina)
Rep. Barry Loudermilk (Georgia)
Rep. Ronny Jackson (Texas)
Rep. Jodey Arrington (Texas)
Rep. H. Morgan Griffith (Virginia)
Rep. Dan Crenshaw (Texas)
Rep. Greg Murphy (North Carolina)
Rep. Tracey Mann (Kansas)
Rep. Jim Baird (Indiana)
Rep. Bryan Steil (Wisconsin)
Rep. Jason T. Smith (Missouri)
Rep. Markwayne Mullin (Oklahoma)
Rep. Blake D. Moore (Utah)

These Republicans cheered abortion policy going to states. They are also sponsoring a federal ban.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/09/07/these-republicans-cheered-abortion-policy-going-states-they-are-also-sponsoring-federal-ban/

This is just the House. Lady Lindsey introduced a nationwide ban in the Senate.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

And pregnant women have none – the right’s war on women continues.

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The vapid leftist cult hates women.




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[Synthaholic]

Unborn humans have rights

There is no such thing as unborn. It's a fetus. Unborn is a Republican made-up word because fetus doesn't elicit the same emotional response.