Trump wants blacks to gamble on his "what the hell do you have to lose"

[Lumpy 1]

There is no gamble. The Clintons have never done anything for black Americans and Hillary has not announced any plans to do anything for black Americans or for poor people now. Trump, on the other hand, has promised school vouchers so that children from poor families who would otherwise have to go to failed, violent schools and receive a third rate education, will be able to go to private schools or higher performing schools in the suburbs and get as good an education as the children from weal thy families. This will especially benefit the mostly minority residents of America's inner cities. Hillary is opposed to school vouchers.

Trump's promise to stop illegal immigration and deport illegal immigrants who are already here, will free up millions of low skilled and unskilled jobs for poor Americans and will allow wages to rise.

So there is no gamble, if Trump wins, poor Americans will be able to secure a better, safer education for their children, more jobs and higher wages. If Clinton wins they get nothing.

What I MOST resent is the mindless regurgitation by right wingers....like you......to spew what you haven't spent ANY time using whatever cognitive functions your half brain could muster.....

VOUCHERS for school is a dog whistle for renewed segregation........

To give poor black families a voucher is virtually meaningless.......private and better schools charge MUCH more than the voucher yields.....SO, some white families can subsidize the vouchers and send their kids to private schools.....Poorer black families could NOT afford that subsidy.....resulting in public schools being de facto all black...ergo segregation returns.

Second, shipping illegals home does very LITTLE for unemployed blacks,,,,,,unless we FORCE SHIP black from Detroit, Chicago, Cleveland, NYC, etc. to the onion fields of CA to pick onions and tell them to be either satisfied working for $400 per month......OR, pay them better and have consumers pay $8 per onion.

Isn't Clinton for a voucher system?

Not for 26% of Blacks stuck in Democratic Party ghettos.

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[Papageorgio]

There is no gamble. The Clintons have never done anything for black Americans and Hillary has not announced any plans to do anything for black Americans or for poor people now. Trump, on the other hand, has promised school vouchers so that children from poor families who would otherwise have to go to failed, violent schools and receive a third rate education, will be able to go to private schools or higher performing schools in the suburbs and get as good an education as the children from weal thy families. This will especially benefit the mostly minority residents of America's inner cities. Hillary is opposed to school vouchers.

Trump's promise to stop illegal immigration and deport illegal immigrants who are already here, will free up millions of low skilled and unskilled jobs for poor Americans and will allow wages to rise.

So there is no gamble, if Trump wins, poor Americans will be able to secure a better, safer education for their children, more jobs and higher wages. If Clinton wins they get nothing.

What I MOST resent is the mindless regurgitation by right wingers....like you......to spew what you haven't spent ANY time using whatever cognitive functions your half brain could muster.....

VOUCHERS for school is a dog whistle for renewed segregation........

To give poor black families a voucher is virtually meaningless.......private and better schools charge MUCH more than the voucher yields.....SO, some white families can subsidize the vouchers and send their kids to private schools.....Poorer black families could NOT afford that subsidy.....resulting in public schools being de facto all black...ergo segregation returns.

Second, shipping illegals home does very LITTLE for unemployed blacks,,,,,,unless we FORCE SHIP black from Detroit, Chicago, Cleveland, NYC, etc. to the onion fields of CA to pick onions and tell them to be either satisfied working for $400 per month......OR, pay them better and have consumers pay $8 per onion.

Isn't Clinton for a voucher system?

No, she is opposed to it and the Democratic Party is opposed to it because the teachers unions oppose it and the Democrats need the money and the political workers these unions provide.

I couldn't remember her stand, I really have no idea what she stands for other than Wall St., big business and the 1%ers.


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[JQPublic1]

Trump hit the nail on the head. Hillary doesn't care about black people--she cares about black votes. That's always been the case with Democrats, but now we have somebody on our side willing to say the words instead of just making implications or dancing around the truth.

Well, Damn, dude. What the hell do you think TRUMP wants? He is demonizing Hilary because he wants those Black votes and that is ALL he wants. He doesn't care about Black people any moire than YOU do.

Of course Trump wants their votes and he has promised them school vouchers for the children of poor families and millions of jobs for poor Americans when he deports the illegal immigrants who now have those jobs. The Clintons have never done anything for black people and yet Hillary believes she is entitled to their votes. This is why the Huffignton Post and The Nation have declared Hillary doens't deserve the votes of black people.

How Can Black People Trust Hillary Clinton After the 2008 Campaign?

Why Hillary Clinton Doesn’t Deserve the Black Vote

This election has more than what Hillary can do for Blacks at stake. Of prime importance is having a Democrat president choosing the next few Supreme Court Justices. Those choices will last for generations and willl affect the lives of Blacks for decades. That is why it is essential for Blacks, Jews, Asians, White women and White Liberals stick together and elect Hillary. Trump's promises mean nothing when you understand the political price we would have to pay for him to fulfill them.

 

[JQPublic1]

The far right is panicking. The angst and rage as they realize the size of Trump's inevitable campaign defeat amazes the objective observer. They act as if it is the end of the world, instead of a presidential election. Blacks are very wise to not trust Trump.

So they're wise to stay slaves to a party where the President that got it all started said he'd have them doing what they've gladly obliged for 50 years now? Tells me they either don't want to do better or they're too stupid to do better.

Blacks endured Reagan and the two Bushes for a total of 20 years. Very little changed for them, if anything ,during that time. Don't you think Blacks would have wandered off your imagined Democratic Plantation if the GOP's Plantation offered a better deal? Obviously, the GOP left a bad impression.

 

[Lumpy 1]

 

[Papageorgio]

The far right is panicking. The angst and rage as they realize the size of Trump's inevitable campaign defeat amazes the objective observer. They act as if it is the end of the world, instead of a presidential election. Blacks are very wise to not trust Trump.

So they're wise to stay slaves to a party where the President that got it all started said he'd have them doing what they've gladly obliged for 50 years now? Tells me they either don't want to do better or they're too stupid to do better.

Blacks endured Reagan and the two Bushes for a total of 20 years. Very little changed for them, if anything ,during that time. Don't you think Blacks would have wandered off your imagined Democratic Plantation if the GOP's Plantation offered a better deal? Obviously, the GOP left a bad impression.

16 years with Clinton and Obama things haven't changed and that's with Democrats taking care of blacks. Seems that neither party is doing anything.

 

[JQPublic1]

The far right is panicking. The angst and rage as they realize the size of Trump's inevitable campaign defeat amazes the objective observer. They act as if it is the end of the world, instead of a presidential election. Blacks are very wise to not trust Trump.

So they're wise to stay slaves to a party where the President that got it all started said he'd have them doing what they've gladly obliged for 50 years now? Tells me they either don't want to do better or they're too stupid to do better.

Blacks endured Reagan and the two Bushes for a total of 20 years. Very little changed for them, if anything ,during that time. Don't you think Blacks would have wandered off your imagined Democratic Plantation if the GOP's Plantation offered a better deal? Obviously, the GOP left a bad impression.

16 years with Clinton and Obama things haven't changed and that's with Democrats taking care of blacks. Seems that neither party is doing anything.

I beg to differ concerning Obama. Considering the many impediments heaped upon him by the Republicans Obama managed to accomplish a lot for the average American consumer and the poor. Blacks benefitted from all those things. 10 million of them were able to get health care and not be dropped because of pre existing conditions or if they got sick. Credit card reform helped them too.

THE List of 371 Obama Accomplishments so far, With Citations

The list is so long that I cannot post all of Obama's accomplishments here… Here are some of his "pro average joe"accomplishments…Average Joe is multiracial.…….heh heh heh!

Worked to provide affordable, high-quality child care to working families. Provide affordable, high-quality child care

Through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, cut taxes for 95% of America’s working families. None

Tax rates for average working families are the lowest since 1950. Under Obama Taxes Reach Lowest Level Since Truman

Extended and fully funded the patch for the Alternative Minimum Tax for 10 years. Alternative Minimum Tax Reform Now Part of the Senate Stimulus

Extended discounted health coverage under the COBRA health insurance law for the unemployed from 9 months to 15 months, and he’s also extended unemployment benefits more than a few times. U.S. Political News, Opinion and Analysis - HuffPost Politicshttp://nyti.ms/emrqKJ President extends unemployment benefits by up to 20 weeks - Nov. 5, 2009 Obama compromises with GOP to extend tax cuts, unemployment benefits

Provided a $20 billion increase for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (Food Stamps). Food Stamps

Signed an Executive Order that established the White House Office of Urban Affairs. New White House Office to Redefine Urban Policy

Included the Buffet Rule in his 2014 budget proposal, in order to fulfill a campaign promise to make sure tax rates are fair between the rich and the middle class. http://1.usa.gov/19PkdQo

Used the fiscal cliff negotiations to extend for five additional years the American Opportunity Tax Credit, which provides tax credits to families for college-related expenses, thus saving those families up to $10,000. You Can Get $10,000 Per Child In College Tax Credits, Thanks To The Fiscal Cliff Deal

Increased protections for the unemployed who are seeking a government job. Presidential Memorandum -- Enhancing Safeguards to Prevent the Undue Denial of Federal Employment Opportunities to the Unemployed and Those Facing Financial Difficulty Through no Fault of Their Own

Updated and modernized overtime regulations under the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) Presidential Memorandum -- Updating and Modernizing Overtime Regulations

Signed and implemented the Healthy Hunger-Free Kids Act, to improve nutrition in schools and make children healthier. Healthy Hunger-Free Kids Act | Food and Nutrition Service

To make college more affordable and accountable, will begin rating colleges with regard to affordability and value. Obama proposes college-rating system in bid to increase affordability

Initiated a reform of federal job training programs, to make them more relevant to the current economy and the job market. Presidential Memorandum -- Job-Driven Training for Workers

Under Obama, the bottom 95% of taxpayers pay lower federal income taxes than at any time in the last 50 years, including under Reagan, or either Bush. Federal Income Taxes on Middle-Income Families Remain Near Historic Lows | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

Signed a presidential memorandum authorizing six weeks paid leave for all federal employees with a new baby and encouraged Congress to do the same for all workers. WHfamilyleavefacts

2014 marked the first time since 1984 that unemployment dropped in all 50 states and the District of Columbia. 1.usa.gov/1E25u0C

Took steps to improve workplace safety by creating an Advisory Board to study workers’ exposure to toxic substances. Executive Order -- Establishing the Advisory Board on Toxic Substances and Worker Health

Changed overtime rules to make it far more difficult for employers to avoid paying overtime to workers. Obama overtime rule could raise wages for 5 million

Changed rules for federal contractors, guaranteeing that all workers earn paid leave; this should affect about 300,000 workers. Executive Order -- Establishing Paid Sick Leave for Federal Contractors

Negotiated a law to finally replace “No Child Left Behind” and remove much of the onerous government “oversight” that caused children to stagnate, not improve, academically. Obama signs new education act into law, replaces No Child Left Behind

 

[Correll]

Lack of DNA evidence does not mean they did not rape the woman. Their "Exoneration" was a huge injustice.

I can't believe how you INSIST in being labeled an asshole........On the rape case.....

1. Someone else confessed to it
2. This someone else's DNA MATCHED the DNA found on that poor woman
3.NYC had to pay reparation to those 5 kids for spending a decade in prison

.....and Trump wanted to LYNCH THEM from the onset......

1. It was a GANG RAPE. That they caught an additional rapist does not make the other rapists innocent.

2. Lack of DNA evidence in a GANG RAPE is not evidence of innocence. Do you understand what I am saying?

3. A travesty of justice. Proof that liberals are on the side of the barbarians.

4. Trump's ad sounds more like a general cry for Law and Order. Quite reasonable given the horror of the crime.

5. Fuck you asshole.

 

[Correll]

I'm familiar with them.

In a massive gang rape, lack of DNA is not evidence of them not raping the girl. That someone else was found to have raped the woman ALSO, is not evidence that they did not rape the girl.




YOu lefties reflexively take the side of vile scum.

Here moron....I'll make it very, very simple for you....Answer this question:

Should the Central Park 5 been executed as Trump called for the death penalty for them.....Yes or No???

As rape is so often a he said she said thing, I hesitate in supporting the Death Penalty for Rape, even one as heinous as the ones those animals were convicted of.


If he did call for the death penalty specifically for those 5, I would respectfully disagree.


Lengthy prison sentences, certainly.

Even after the Central Park 5 have been cleared and freed you persist in calling them animals? What sort of a monster ARE YOU. You sound demonic. Maybe you need to find a good exorcist! And while you are at, it tell him about your demon possessed candidate, The Donald!

The basis for the reversals was lack of DNA evidence and the confession of another rapist.

Both of those reasons are completely wrong.

Lack of DNA evidence is not evidence of innocence.

That they found ONE additional rapists from a GANG RAPE, does not mean the other rapists from the GANG RAPE, were innocent.


ALL FIVE OF THEM CONFESSED.


You liberals side with the animals. You are part of the process of decadence and the decline of our civilization.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

16 years with Clinton and Obama things haven't changed and that's with Democrats taking care of blacks. Seems that neither party is doing anything.

The question is what is anybody supposed to be doing for the blacks? If you can come up with an answer, then the next question would be, why shouldn't we be doing the same for the Hispanics, the Asians, the Arabs.........

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Well, Damn, dude. What the hell do you think TRUMP wants? He is demonizing Hilary because he wants those Black votes and that is ALL he wants. He doesn't care about Black people any moire than YOU do.

Then I guess that puts him on a level playing field with the Democrats for the black vote, doesn't it?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

There is no gamble. The Clintons have never done anything for black Americans and Hillary has not announced any plans to do anything for black Americans or for poor people now. Trump, on the other hand, has promised school vouchers so that children from poor families who would otherwise have to go to failed, violent schools and receive a third rate education, will be able to go to private schools or higher performing schools in the suburbs and get as good an education as the children from weal thy families. This will especially benefit the mostly minority residents of America's inner cities. Hillary is opposed to school vouchers.

Trump's promise to stop illegal immigration and deport illegal immigrants who are already here, will free up millions of low skilled and unskilled jobs for poor Americans and will allow wages to rise.

So there is no gamble, if Trump wins, poor Americans will be able to secure a better, safer education for their children, more jobs and higher wages. If Clinton wins they get nothing.

What I MOST resent is the mindless regurgitation by right wingers....like you......to spew what you haven't spent ANY time using whatever cognitive functions your half brain could muster.....

VOUCHERS for school is a dog whistle for renewed segregation........

To give poor black families a voucher is virtually meaningless.......private and better schools charge MUCH more than the voucher yields.....SO, some white families can subsidize the vouchers and send their kids to private schools.....Poorer black families could NOT afford that subsidy.....resulting in public schools being de facto all black...ergo segregation returns.

Second, shipping illegals home does very LITTLE for unemployed blacks,,,,,,unless we FORCE SHIP black from Detroit, Chicago, Cleveland, NYC, etc. to the onion fields of CA to pick onions and tell them to be either satisfied working for $400 per month......OR, pay them better and have consumers pay $8 per onion.

Study Finds Louisiana Voucher Program Improves Racial Diversity in Public Schools - Education Next

Can school choice lead to more integrated schools?

 

[Papageorgio]

The far right is panicking. The angst and rage as they realize the size of Trump's inevitable campaign defeat amazes the objective observer. They act as if it is the end of the world, instead of a presidential election. Blacks are very wise to not trust Trump.

So they're wise to stay slaves to a party where the President that got it all started said he'd have them doing what they've gladly obliged for 50 years now? Tells me they either don't want to do better or they're too stupid to do better.

Blacks endured Reagan and the two Bushes for a total of 20 years. Very little changed for them, if anything ,during that time. Don't you think Blacks would have wandered off your imagined Democratic Plantation if the GOP's Plantation offered a better deal? Obviously, the GOP left a bad impression.

16 years with Clinton and Obama things haven't changed and that's with Democrats taking care of blacks. Seems that neither party is doing anything.

I beg to differ concerning Obama. Considering the many impediments heaped upon him by the Republicans Obama managed to accomplish a lot for the average American consumer and the poor. Blacks benefitted from all those things. 10 million of them were able to get health care and not be dropped because of pre existing conditions or if they got sick. Credit card reform helped them too.

THE List of 371 Obama Accomplishments so far, With Citations

The list is so long that I cannot post all of Obama's accomplishments here… Here are some of his "pro average joe"accomplishments…Average Joe is multiracial.…….heh heh heh!

Worked to provide affordable, high-quality child care to working families. Provide affordable, high-quality child care

Through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, cut taxes for 95% of America’s working families. None

Tax rates for average working families are the lowest since 1950. Under Obama Taxes Reach Lowest Level Since Truman

Extended and fully funded the patch for the Alternative Minimum Tax for 10 years. Alternative Minimum Tax Reform Now Part of the Senate Stimulus

Extended discounted health coverage under the COBRA health insurance law for the unemployed from 9 months to 15 months, and he’s also extended unemployment benefits more than a few times. U.S. Political News, Opinion and Analysis - HuffPost Politicshttp://nyti.ms/emrqKJ President extends unemployment benefits by up to 20 weeks - Nov. 5, 2009 Obama compromises with GOP to extend tax cuts, unemployment benefits

Provided a $20 billion increase for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (Food Stamps). Food Stamps

Signed an Executive Order that established the White House Office of Urban Affairs. New White House Office to Redefine Urban Policy

Included the Buffet Rule in his 2014 budget proposal, in order to fulfill a campaign promise to make sure tax rates are fair between the rich and the middle class. http://1.usa.gov/19PkdQo

Used the fiscal cliff negotiations to extend for five additional years the American Opportunity Tax Credit, which provides tax credits to families for college-related expenses, thus saving those families up to $10,000. You Can Get $10,000 Per Child In College Tax Credits, Thanks To The Fiscal Cliff Deal

Increased protections for the unemployed who are seeking a government job. Presidential Memorandum -- Enhancing Safeguards to Prevent the Undue Denial of Federal Employment Opportunities to the Unemployed and Those Facing Financial Difficulty Through no Fault of Their Own

Updated and modernized overtime regulations under the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) Presidential Memorandum -- Updating and Modernizing Overtime Regulations

Signed and implemented the Healthy Hunger-Free Kids Act, to improve nutrition in schools and make children healthier. Healthy Hunger-Free Kids Act | Food and Nutrition Service

To make college more affordable and accountable, will begin rating colleges with regard to affordability and value. Obama proposes college-rating system in bid to increase affordability

Initiated a reform of federal job training programs, to make them more relevant to the current economy and the job market. Presidential Memorandum -- Job-Driven Training for Workers

Under Obama, the bottom 95% of taxpayers pay lower federal income taxes than at any time in the last 50 years, including under Reagan, or either Bush. Federal Income Taxes on Middle-Income Families Remain Near Historic Lows | Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

Signed a presidential memorandum authorizing six weeks paid leave for all federal employees with a new baby and encouraged Congress to do the same for all workers. WHfamilyleavefacts

2014 marked the first time since 1984 that unemployment dropped in all 50 states and the District of Columbia. 1.usa.gov/1E25u0C

Took steps to improve workplace safety by creating an Advisory Board to study workers’ exposure to toxic substances. Executive Order -- Establishing the Advisory Board on Toxic Substances and Worker Health

Changed overtime rules to make it far more difficult for employers to avoid paying overtime to workers. Obama overtime rule could raise wages for 5 million

Changed rules for federal contractors, guaranteeing that all workers earn paid leave; this should affect about 300,000 workers. Executive Order -- Establishing Paid Sick Leave for Federal Contractors

Negotiated a law to finally replace “No Child Left Behind” and remove much of the onerous government “oversight” that caused children to stagnate, not improve, academically. Obama signs new education act into law, replaces No Child Left Behind

Obamacare doesn't have real numbers because many have moved from employer healthcare to Obamacare, also many that jumped on Obamacare in 14 dropped off the rolls in 15. Obamacare has hit the middle class harder than any group, higher deductibles are plaguing employer contributed plans plus very high increases in plans. They finally got rid of Kennedy's NCLB.

Unemployment? What did Obama do there?

Lots of propaganda, that is all you have. How many poor people have federal jobs? How many poor going to college? Listed some things twice, on and on. The propaganda rolls on.

 

[the_human_being]

 

[the_human_being]

 

[JakeStarkey]

We can post human being's numbers to the Democratic and Republican parties who do not care about the voters.

 

[toomuchtime_]

There is no gamble. The Clintons have never done anything for black Americans and Hillary has not announced any plans to do anything for black Americans or for poor people now. Trump, on the other hand, has promised school vouchers so that children from poor families who would otherwise have to go to failed, violent schools and receive a third rate education, will be able to go to private schools or higher performing schools in the suburbs and get as good an education as the children from weal thy families. This will especially benefit the mostly minority residents of America's inner cities. Hillary is opposed to school vouchers.

Trump's promise to stop illegal immigration and deport illegal immigrants who are already here, will free up millions of low skilled and unskilled jobs for poor Americans and will allow wages to rise.

So there is no gamble, if Trump wins, poor Americans will be able to secure a better, safer education for their children, more jobs and higher wages. If Clinton wins they get nothing.

What I MOST resent is the mindless regurgitation by right wingers....like you......to spew what you haven't spent ANY time using whatever cognitive functions your half brain could muster.....

VOUCHERS for school is a dog whistle for renewed segregation........

To give poor black families a voucher is virtually meaningless.......private and better schools charge MUCH more than the voucher yields.....SO, some white families can subsidize the vouchers and send their kids to private schools.....Poorer black families could NOT afford that subsidy.....resulting in public schools being de facto all black...ergo segregation returns.

Second, shipping illegals home does very LITTLE for unemployed blacks,,,,,,unless we FORCE SHIP black from Detroit, Chicago, Cleveland, NYC, etc. to the onion fields of CA to pick onions and tell them to be either satisfied working for $400 per month......OR, pay them better and have consumers pay $8 per onion.

Isn't Clinton for a voucher system?

No, she is opposed to it and the Democratic Party is opposed to it because the teachers unions oppose it and the Democrats need the money and the political workers these unions provide.

I couldn't remember her stand, I really have no idea what she stands for other than Wall St., big business and the 1%ers.


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It seems to depend on when you ask her.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Obamacare doesn't have real numbers because many have moved from employer healthcare to Obamacare, also many that jumped on Obamacare in 14 dropped off the rolls in 15. Obamacare has hit the middle class harder than any group, higher deductibles are plaguing employer contributed plans plus very high increases in plans. They finally got rid of Kennedy's NCLB.

Exactly. I'm one of those people.

When Commie Care kicked in my employer seen the opportunity to get out of providing coverage, so he did. He gave us a small raise to cover some of our loss, but the loss was still there.

So now we have to use "after tax" money to buy our own healthcare whereas before it was a non-taxed benefit. In short, it will cost me about $500.00 a month for something half-assed with high deductibles and out-of-pocket expenses.

That's $500.00 a month less in which to pay my bills, $500.00 less I can put into our economy, $500.00 less I could have otherwise used for investments. That kind of bill is easily a SUV payment or even a small house payment.

I (like millions of others) were so much better off during the Bush recession than we are now under this wonderful Obama economy. I had more money in my pocket before that Commie invaded the White House. But hey......... at least the guy that makes my french fries at McDonald's has healthcare. And people like me are expected to vote for Hillary? No thanks. I lost enough money thank you.

 

[nat4900]

Isn't Clinton for a voucher system?

Hillary Clinton does not like voucher programs. While she does support school choice as it exists as a form of public education, Clinton has always been opposed to allowing public funds to be used toward private and religious schools. As a New York Senator, Hillary Clinton voted against voucher programs in Arkansas.....

Where Does Hillary Clinton Stand on Education Reform?

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

With respect to voter ID you'd have a better chance spotting Bigfoot than have Nat give an actual judicial case where voter suppression was found to be a result of Voter ID laws. Want to shut Nat up? Tell him to provide you with such an example, his only response will most likely be a "funny quote" remark ... just watch the icons below.

Didn't want to disappoint you, so I gave you a much-deserved SMILEY FACE.....

In the meanwhile.......right wingers in trying to suppress minority voters have come up with a SOLUTION in search of a non-existent PROBLEM.

Why Voter ID Laws Are Losing Judges' Support
In one week, federal courts struck down such laws in four states, marking a significant shift in the legal battle over voting rules.


Nearly three dozen states, mostly controlled by Republicans, have enacted laws in recent years requiring voters to present a government-issued photo ID. They argue it's necessary to prevent voter fraud. Democrats and civil rights groups, however, point out that voter fraud is a rare problem (present in 3 of every 1 million votes, according to one study). They say the true motivation is to keep minorities and other groups that are more likely to vote Democratic from easily casting their ballots.

Why Voter ID Laws Are Losing Judges' Support

I will make my point even more crystal clear: Show me a legal pending case involving a state voter ID law with litigated facts supporting actual voters who have had their votes specifically suppressed due to such action. Where the individual "victim" mentioned in the suit had no opportunity or means by which they could ever be expected to comply by such voting requirement, by the time their opportunity to cast their vote had arrived.

Voter suppression only is found to be factually true, and not a scare tactic myth, if you can provide one such litigated case where clear evidence (such as I've losted in the paragraph above) was found to have actually occurred. Without such evidence you are simply a liar without any basis of truth to your claims.