Trump wants blacks to gamble on his "what the hell do you have to lose"

Blacks endured Reagan and the two Bushes for a total of 20 years. Very little changed for them, if anything ,during that time. Don't you think Blacks would have wandered off your imagined Democratic Plantation if the GOP's Plantation offered a better deal? Obviously, the GOP left a bad impression.

16 years with Clinton and Obama things haven't changed and that's with Democrats taking care of blacks. Seems that neither party is doing anything.
The Democrats are not only taking care of Blacks they are taking care of the average American. When Blacks take advantage of things done for the general populace by Democrats your focus is only on them. Why?
Why focus on black Americans? Because that is what the thread is about.

Do you mean that when black Americans take advantage of Democrats allowing illegal immigrants to take away their jobs and keep wages low, they are benefiting from Democratic policies? Do you mean when black Americans take advantage of Democrats fighting to prevent the children of poor families from getting school vouchers that will rescue them from failed dangerous schools they are benefiting form Democratic policies?

1.If illegals are taking poor White and poor Black people's jobs republicans need to stop hiring them..

2. The voucher system won't benefit Blacks at all. The voucher system is just another attempt by republicans to privatize K-12 for profit.The republican base has already written Black progress off as unattainable due to what they see as low cognitive skills and a propensity for violence. Given that preconception, republicans are being duplicitous when they say the voucher system will help Black children to learn better. If you don't think that Blacks haven't realized that, you are badly mistaken. They know that when republicans advertise something in the interest of Black folks, the end product is rarely up to the standard as advertised.
1) Are you saying Democrats don't hire them?

2) It's called giving people a choice. I thought you lefties believed in choice or is that only when the choice involves killing what you don't want to take responsibility for producing?


1. No, but no republican should. Unfortunately too many republicans DO hire illegals. Even some of the Bush clan did so.

2. People do have a choice…Go to a free public school or spend your OWN money if you wnat your kids to go to a private school!
 
Blacks endured Reagan and the two Bushes for a total of 20 years. Very little changed for them, if anything ,during that time. Don't you think Blacks would have wandered off your imagined Democratic Plantation if the GOP's Plantation offered a better deal? Obviously, the GOP left a bad impression.

16 years with Clinton and Obama things haven't changed and that's with Democrats taking care of blacks. Seems that neither party is doing anything.
The Democrats are not only taking care of Blacks they are taking care of the average American. When Blacks take advantage of things done for the general populace by Democrats your focus is only on them. Why?

What do you not get about it's not the government job to take care of you. It's your job to do things for yourself that should be doing for yourself. It's not the government's job to feed you, house you, clothe you, provide you healthcare, etc. That's your job.

This thread is about blacks and how the Democrats use them to get votes. Feel free to start one about the white freeloaders that do the same.
Didn't I just say the Democrats do things in the interests of the general populace? That includes poor and middle classed Whites.
Black and White worker take advantage of Collective Bargaining, Social Security, Medicare, higher minImum wages, better health care, and a host of other Democratic Party initiatives. For poorer Americans; subsidized housing and Medicaid top the list of health and welfare programs.. Although the op is focused on what do Blacks have to lose, you can't separate those benefits I just mentioned
from those used by White beneficiaries. Whites will lose too if the GOP is allowed to take those Unions and social programs away

Didn't I say it's not the government's place to prove you with things you should be providing yourself. That includes ALL races/ethnicities.

All of them should lose it and come find you bleeding hearts that claim you care for them to see if YOU'LL provide those handouts.


If not for the Democrats America would look like a third world nation with only haves and have nots. There would be NO middle class except for a system made up of soldiers and policemen inaugurated to serve the top 1%
 
Here moron....I'll make it very, very simple for you....Answer this question:

Should the Central Park 5 been executed as Trump called for the death penalty for them.....Yes or No???



As rape is so often a he said she said thing, I hesitate in supporting the Death Penalty for Rape, even one as heinous as the ones those animals were convicted of.


If he did call for the death penalty specifically for those 5, I would respectfully disagree.


Lengthy prison sentences, certainly.
Even after the Central Park 5 have been cleared and freed you persist in calling them animals? What sort of a monster ARE YOU. You sound demonic. Maybe you need to find a good exorcist! And while you are at, it tell him about your demon possessed candidate, The Donald!


The basis for the reversals was lack of DNA evidence and the confession of another rapist.

Both of those reasons are completely wrong.

Lack of DNA evidence is not evidence of innocence.

That they found ONE additional rapists from a GANG RAPE, does not mean the other rapists from the GANG RAPE, were innocent.


ALL FIVE OF THEM CONFESSED.


You liberals side with the animals. You are part of the process of decadence and the decline of our civilization.
The only animal here is YOU. Np blood, semen or any other trace evidence exists connecting the CP 5 to that rape. As much as you wish it did, it DOES NOT EXIST. Get over your bigotry and move on.

Even when they confess, you don't accept the truth.
Not when those confessions were obtained under duress. The DNA evidence substantiates that the confessions were illegaly obtained.
 
1.If illegals are taking poor White and poor Black people's jobs republicans need to stop hiring them..

2. The voucher system won't benefit Blacks at all. The voucher system is just another attempt by republicans to privatize K-12 for profit.The republican base has already written Black progress off as unattainable due to what they see as low cognitive skills and a propensity for violence. Given that preconception, republicans are being duplicitous when they say the voucher system will help Black children to learn better. If you don't think that Blacks haven't realized that, you are badly mistaken. They know that when republicans advertise something in the interest of Black folks, the end product is rarely up to the standard as advertised.

The Black Alliance for Education Options released the results of a new survey of black voters in four states on education policy. The poll found that more than six in ten blacks in Alabama, Louisiana, New Jersey, and Tennessee support school vouchers.

Survey Says: Black Voters Support School Choice


Research: Louisiana's School Voucher Program Harms Student ...
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U.S. News & World Report
Feb 22, 2016 - In particular, their likelihood of a failing score increased by 24 to 50 percent. ... Louisiana's voucher system provides about 6,700 students with about $5,300 ... During their second year in private school, the downward trend …

School Vouchers Under The Microscope: Do They Really Improve Student Achievement? Milwaukee School Choice Program, which was not only the first but also the largest school voucher program in the country, has fallen under fire after voucher students failed to surpass their public school counterparts in state tests.


Studies Show Vouchers Ineffective

Studies consistently show that vouchers not only fail to boost student academic performance, but many students in voucher schools actually do worse than their voucher-less peers.

Consider Wisconsin’s private school voucher program, which at 23 years and counting makes it the oldest of its kind in the United States. In 2011, a study found that students participating in the Milwaukee Parental Choice Program scored proficient or advanced on standardized tests at a rate of 34.4 percent in math and 55.2 percent for reading, but students in Milwaukee Public Schools scored proficient or advanced at a rate of 47.8 percent in math and 59 percent in reading on the same assessments, according to the Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction.

The results have been equally unspectacular elsewhere. An analysis of Louisiana’s voucher program, released in May, found about 40 percent of third through eighth graders receiving vouchers scored at or above their grade level on statewide tests in English, math, social studies and science; by comparison, 69 percent of all third through eighth grade students statewide scored at or above grade level on those tests.

Likewise, a 2003 study of Cleveland’s then eight-year-old voucher scheme showed the program failed to boost the academic performance of the students taking part in it. The analysis, conducted by independent researcher Kim Metcalf of Indiana University, found that students participating in the program are doing no better academically than their public school counterparts.


I guess your lBack Alliance friends don't know about these studies, HUNH?????

Well actually my post was to point out that blacks do prefer school vouchers over no choice at all. And I'm sure I can find all kinds of evidence and pieces on the success of school vouchers. But instead of getting into a Google pissing contest, what your posts say is that better schools have no impact on black children. So I would assume then that if we poured more money into public schools, it wouldn't make much of a difference; something we Republicans have been saying for decades.

Also, it seems to me these studies of yours are very vague. It's generalizations and not specific given the fact it's the parent that chooses the schools their children attend. If a parent chooses a school not known for success, then it's the parent that made the bad decision, not the voucher program itself.
 
Obama has the same 4.9% unemployment rate Bush had 10 years ago. Difference is 15+ million more people are on food stamps under Obama than under Bush. How is that an accomplishment? Why can't the black President do as well as Bush at the same unemployment level?

The mess that GWB left behind can be seen in Obama's 5th month in office when the unemployment rate reached over 10%..

Now, I know you're not smart enough to understand cause and effect, but find a grown up to explain it to you. This is not the place to fully educate morons.
 
So they're wise to stay slaves to a party where the President that got it all started said he'd have them doing what they've gladly obliged for 50 years now? Tells me they either don't want to do better or they're too stupid to do better.

Blacks endured Reagan and the two Bushes for a total of 20 years. Very little changed for them, if anything ,during that time. Don't you think Blacks would have wandered off your imagined Democratic Plantation if the GOP's Plantation offered a better deal? Obviously, the GOP left a bad impression.

16 years with Clinton and Obama things haven't changed and that's with Democrats taking care of blacks. Seems that neither party is doing anything.
The Democrats are not only taking care of Blacks they are taking care of the average American. When Blacks take advantage of things done for the general populace by Democrats your focus is only on them. Why?
Why focus on black Americans? Because that is what the thread is about.

Do you mean that when black Americans take advantage of Democrats allowing illegal immigrants to take away their jobs and keep wages low, they are benefiting from Democratic policies? Do you mean when black Americans take advantage of Democrats fighting to prevent the children of poor families from getting school vouchers that will rescue them from failed dangerous schools they are benefiting form Democratic policies?

1.If illegals are taking poor White and poor Black people's jobs republicans need to stop hiring them..

2. The voucher system won't benefit Blacks at all. The voucher system is just another attempt by republicans to privatize K-12 for profit.The republican base has already written Black progress off as unattainable due to what they see as low cognitive skills and a propensity for violence. Given that preconception, republicans are being duplicitous when they say the voucher system will help Black children to learn better. If you don't think that Blacks haven't realized that, you are badly mistaken. They know that when republicans advertise something in the interest of Black folks, the end product is rarely up to the standard as advertised.
Don't be stupid. We already have proof the voucher system Trump wants to implement across the nation works from our experience in D.C.

In 2004, President George W. Bush signed the D.C. School Choice Incentive Act of 2003, creating the D.C. Opportunity Scholarship Program to provide scholarships to students from low-income families to attend a private school of choice.[1] The program targeted 2,000 children from low-income families in Washington D.C. These children were given funding to help offset the cost of private schooling.[1] In 2008, the program funded attendance at 54 D.C. private schools for students from families with an average income of $22,736, "or about 107 percent of the federal poverty level for a family of four."[1]

In 2009 the program faced a phase out with President Barack Obama’s 2009 budget proposal cutting all funding for the program and including language to prohibit any new students from receiving scholarships.[2]

In 2011, Speaker of the House John Boehner and Senator Joe Lieberman introduced the Scholarships for Opportunity and Results (SOAR) Act to restore funding for the program and again allow new students to participate. The entirety of the SOAR Act was included in the 2011 long-term continuing resolution, the passage of which resulted in a five-year reauthorization of the D.C. Opportunity Scholarship Program.[3] The 2004 legislation had permitted students to receive scholarships of up to $7,500, whereas the 2011 bill provides scholarships of up to $8,000 for students in kindergarten through eighth grade and up to $12,000 for students in grades 9-12.[4]

In February 2012, President Barack Obama announced his budget proposal for 2013, which did not include new funding for the program.[5] According to ABC News, the budget stated that the program's budget for 2012 had enough money to also cover students' vouchers in 2013, but did not mention future years.[5] The lack of funding was criticized by conservatives, including The Heritage Foundation and Wall Street Journal columnist Jason L. Riley, who argued that the program costs less per child and has a higher graduation rate than public schools in Washington D.C.[6][7]

D.C. Opportunity Scholarship Program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bigoted bs you are posting only tells people you have no idea why you are supporting Hillary. Clearly, it is today's Democrats who have no interest in the welfare of poor Americans including poor black Americans.
 
Shakles is not telling you that he would want much more difficult approach to get a WI voter ID.

You are welcome to provide some actual facts with links to back up your view Jake, it's open to anyone who believes they can prove voter suppression has actually occurred as a result of Voter ID. However the criteria for you specifically, requires you be able to actually "contribute" some facts and links to the discussion, more than just your usual two or three sentence commentary. Think you can handle that Jake?
 
Blacks endured Reagan and the two Bushes for a total of 20 years. Very little changed for them, if anything ,during that time. Don't you think Blacks would have wandered off your imagined Democratic Plantation if the GOP's Plantation offered a better deal? Obviously, the GOP left a bad impression.

16 years with Clinton and Obama things haven't changed and that's with Democrats taking care of blacks. Seems that neither party is doing anything.
The Democrats are not only taking care of Blacks they are taking care of the average American. When Blacks take advantage of things done for the general populace by Democrats your focus is only on them. Why?
Why focus on black Americans? Because that is what the thread is about.

Do you mean that when black Americans take advantage of Democrats allowing illegal immigrants to take away their jobs and keep wages low, they are benefiting from Democratic policies? Do you mean when black Americans take advantage of Democrats fighting to prevent the children of poor families from getting school vouchers that will rescue them from failed dangerous schools they are benefiting form Democratic policies?

1.If illegals are taking poor White and poor Black people's jobs republicans need to stop hiring them..

2. The voucher system won't benefit Blacks at all. The voucher system is just another attempt by republicans to privatize K-12 for profit.The republican base has already written Black progress off as unattainable due to what they see as low cognitive skills and a propensity for violence. Given that preconception, republicans are being duplicitous when they say the voucher system will help Black children to learn better. If you don't think that Blacks haven't realized that, you are badly mistaken. They know that when republicans advertise something in the interest of Black folks, the end product is rarely up to the standard as advertised.
1) Are you saying Democrats don't hire them?

2) It's called giving people a choice. I thought you lefties believed in choice or is that only when the choice involves killing what you don't want to take responsibility for producing?
He's saying he, like Hillary, couldn't care less what happens to black people as long as they vote for Democrats, this despite the fact he obviously has no idea why he supports Democrats.
 
16 years with Clinton and Obama things haven't changed and that's with Democrats taking care of blacks. Seems that neither party is doing anything.
The Democrats are not only taking care of Blacks they are taking care of the average American. When Blacks take advantage of things done for the general populace by Democrats your focus is only on them. Why?
Why focus on black Americans? Because that is what the thread is about.

Do you mean that when black Americans take advantage of Democrats allowing illegal immigrants to take away their jobs and keep wages low, they are benefiting from Democratic policies? Do you mean when black Americans take advantage of Democrats fighting to prevent the children of poor families from getting school vouchers that will rescue them from failed dangerous schools they are benefiting form Democratic policies?

1.If illegals are taking poor White and poor Black people's jobs republicans need to stop hiring them..

2. The voucher system won't benefit Blacks at all. The voucher system is just another attempt by republicans to privatize K-12 for profit.The republican base has already written Black progress off as unattainable due to what they see as low cognitive skills and a propensity for violence. Given that preconception, republicans are being duplicitous when they say the voucher system will help Black children to learn better. If you don't think that Blacks haven't realized that, you are badly mistaken. They know that when republicans advertise something in the interest of Black folks, the end product is rarely up to the standard as advertised.
1) Are you saying Democrats don't hire them?

2) It's called giving people a choice. I thought you lefties believed in choice or is that only when the choice involves killing what you don't want to take responsibility for producing?


1. No, but no republican should. Unfortunately too many republicans DO hire illegals. Even some of the Bush clan did so.

2. People do have a choice…Go to a free public school or spend your OWN money if you wnat your kids to go to a private school!
What a stupid post. Public schools are paid for by the government just as school vouchers would be. In D.C. it cost less to send these students to private schools than to it did to keep them in public schools and those who went private schools had a higher graduation rate.
 
In response to your dated information from an article in 2012, either the article was not aware of voter ID laws of those particular states or they were preying upon uninformed voters


Contemplate this.......In a moment of unexpected candor, the evil that men do is exposed.......



Pennsylvania Republican: Voter ID Laws Are ‘Gonna Allow Governor Romney To Win’


Pennsylvania Republican House Leader Mike Turzai (R-PA) finally admitted what so many have speculated: Voter identification efforts are meant to suppress Democratic votes in this year’s election.

At the Republican State Committee meeting, Turzai took the stage and let slip the truth about why Republicans are so insistent on voter identification efforts — it will win Romney the election, he said:

“We are focused on making sure that we meet our obligations that we’ve talked about for years,” said Turzai in a speech to committee members Saturday. He mentioned the law among a laundry list of accomplishments made by the GOP-run legislature.“Pro-Second Amendment? The Castle Doctrine, it’s done. First pro-life legislation — abortion facility regulations — in 22 years, done.
Voter ID, which is gonna allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania, done.”

Pennsylvania Republican: Voter ID Laws Are ‘Gonna Allow Governor Romney To Win’ – ThinkProgress

Maybe he suspected a lot or cheating going on in that state.

NAT is just all over the place on this issue, from the Black Panthers, to blogs, to Romney. He seems to have difficulty in focusing on just one single issue before his mind starts wandering again. Perhaps it's stress or he has a left wing Kool-Aid deficiency?
 
16 years with Clinton and Obama things haven't changed and that's with Democrats taking care of blacks. Seems that neither party is doing anything.
The Democrats are not only taking care of Blacks they are taking care of the average American. When Blacks take advantage of things done for the general populace by Democrats your focus is only on them. Why?
Why focus on black Americans? Because that is what the thread is about.

Do you mean that when black Americans take advantage of Democrats allowing illegal immigrants to take away their jobs and keep wages low, they are benefiting from Democratic policies? Do you mean when black Americans take advantage of Democrats fighting to prevent the children of poor families from getting school vouchers that will rescue them from failed dangerous schools they are benefiting form Democratic policies?

1.If illegals are taking poor White and poor Black people's jobs republicans need to stop hiring them..

2. The voucher system won't benefit Blacks at all. The voucher system is just another attempt by republicans to privatize K-12 for profit.The republican base has already written Black progress off as unattainable due to what they see as low cognitive skills and a propensity for violence. Given that preconception, republicans are being duplicitous when they say the voucher system will help Black children to learn better. If you don't think that Blacks haven't realized that, you are badly mistaken. They know that when republicans advertise something in the interest of Black folks, the end product is rarely up to the standard as advertised.
1) Are you saying Democrats don't hire them?

2) It's called giving people a choice. I thought you lefties believed in choice or is that only when the choice involves killing what you don't want to take responsibility for producing?


1. No, but no republican should. Unfortunately too many republicans DO hire illegals. Even some of the Bush clan did so.

2. People do have a choice…Go to a free public school or spend your OWN money if you wnat your kids to go to a private school!

So why again should democrat politicians enjoy the luxury of choice in their child's education, but their constituents (who can't afford it) can't? If you're all about providing everyone a choice in Health Care coverage, (not just allotted that choice to the very rich, you say) why are you against the same opportunities towards a public or private education? If public school was that successful why the problem in meeting test achievement levels meant to check their progress? Are teachers simply pushing the problem along by passing them to the next grade? How is all that money being spent, if the "quality" in education through academic achievement tests aren't being attained to their expected level of education?
 
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The mess that GWB left behind can be seen in Obama's 5th month in office when the unemployment rate reached over 10%..

Now, I know you're not smart enough to understand cause and effect, but find a grown up to explain it to you. This is not the place to fully educate morons.

Speaking of which, if you are going to give credit to somebody, at least come up with some evidence in which to pass that credit.

It's like the rule of stocks, once it hits bottom, it can only go one way from there. If DumBama entered the White House never to be seen or heard from again, our economy would have recovered even better.
 
Shakles is not telling you that he would want much more difficult approach to get a WI voter ID.

You are welcome to provide some actual facts with links to back up your view Jake, it's open to anyone who believes they can prove voter suppression has actually occurred as a result of Voter ID. However the criteria for you specifically, requires you be able to actually "contribute" some facts and links to the discussion, more than just your usual two or three sentence commentary. Think you can handle that Jake?
The ridiculous laws passed that created hurdles to get IDs, as were in OH, PA, TX, and NC, are easy examples All of them were overturned by the courts.

All good Americans support laws like WI, all good Americans opposed bad laws such as those in the other states, and good pubs oppose any effort to suppress voting. Do you agree, Shakles?
 
Let me state this much....I believe that the half dozen or so right wingers that have kept this thread going, are...at the very least...."smart" enough to know that they will LOSE this Nov.....and probably lose in record-setting ways, and not only the WH, but the Senate as well and, of course, the SCOTUS............So, why do they still hang on and bitch and moan about how "unfair" blacks and other minorities are to their cause?

I'm not sure, but it must be a way to ease their anxieties and fears that the next few decades are the last vestiges of their societal white supremacy; aAs a white older male myself, I accept the upcoming changes as "natural" in our evolution.......but, like cornered rats, conservatives will feign the illusion of their waning strength all the way to their upcoming dying days......Sad, really.
 
When an older order is going out do not find it unusual that struggle and denial define the process.

They are doing nothing more than a human body does when it takes time dying and leaking fluids and smells.
 
When an older order is going out do not find it unusual that struggle and denial define the process.

They are doing nothing more than a human body does when it takes time dying and leaking fluids and smells.
You do understand the Democratic Party is older than the Republican Party, don't you?
 

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