Trumps Executive order Fu+ks People with Pre-Existing Conditions

[Soggy in NOLA]

I didn't mean you personally lol

You are familiar with metaphors right?

Think about this:

Last year I had to go to the Emergency Room and was very sick. The Emergency room was jammed packed out the door with people ( illegals and those without insurance ) The Emergency Rooms by law have to see everyone.
They were using it like a doctors office,and the Emergency Rooms charge $500.00 for a bandage.

Most can't pay that huge bill...who pays for it? You do!

It is only going to get worse..


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I dont goto emergency rooms for regular medical care.
Poor people stiffing the system will always be a problem. Obamacare didn't fix it, this EO won't make it any worse. Being an alarmist solves nothing.

My point is......Trump playing reality TV man signing this bullshit is not fixing anything..


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If it works it will fix plenty for thoes that were fucked over after the ACA was passed.
And I don't wanna hear about the woes of anyone left behind. They wouldn't have been put in this situation if not for democrats to begin with. Their free ride was not guaranteed to be endless. Eventually the ones under the boot wrestle free and the price is paid.

Dude..Medi-cal is a free ride not Obamacare.. People pay a lot of money for Obamacare. Are you getting a free ride when your house burns down after paying for insurance ?
Or a free ride when you you get into a wreak especially when you have been in a accident before ?

I don't want to pay for your constant car wreaks..


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False analogy. You've already paid premiums... when somebody contracts an illness and has no insurance, then gets insurance and the insurance company is on the hooks for treatments when you haven't paid a dime of premiums, tell me, how is that going to work?

 

[Eaglewings]

My son already bought a very inexpensive insurance last year...you are believing the lies .

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And your son can keep his plan what are you bitching about?

My other son is in college and is a type 1 Juvenile diabetic insulin dependent ... We are screwing over our younger generation so bad.

Do you know what a pre-existing illness is? I will get the list for you..


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I don't think you know how Obamacare is funded. Young healthy people who don't have a lot of money this early in their careers are paying for your son's pre-existing condition how is that fair?

No, you don't understand how it works, young people not making much money if they have insurance are enjoying a pretty decent subsidy.

I'm not talking about moochers, I'm talking about young professionals paying through the nose for bloated coverage they don't need to subsidize the moochers subsidies.

Drinking the Koolaide I see.. No one is a moocher on Obamacare, everyone pays a lot. The reason for Obamacare is for illnesses that take your life savings.. not a cold..

 

[Eaglewings]

Think about this:

Last year I had to go to the Emergency Room and was very sick. The Emergency room was jammed packed out the door with people ( illegals and those without insurance ) The Emergency Rooms by law have to see everyone.
They were using it like a doctors office,and the Emergency Rooms charge $500.00 for a bandage.

Most can't pay that huge bill...who pays for it? You do!

It is only going to get worse..


.

I dont goto emergency rooms for regular medical care.
Poor people stiffing the system will always be a problem. Obamacare didn't fix it, this EO won't make it any worse. Being an alarmist solves nothing.

My point is......Trump playing reality TV man signing this bullshit is not fixing anything..


.

If it works it will fix plenty for thoes that were fucked over after the ACA was passed.
And I don't wanna hear about the woes of anyone left behind. They wouldn't have been put in this situation if not for democrats to begin with. Their free ride was not guaranteed to be endless. Eventually the ones under the boot wrestle free and the price is paid.

Dude..Medi-cal is a free ride not Obamacare.. People pay a lot of money for Obamacare. Are you getting a free ride when your house burns down after paying for insurance ?
Or a free ride when you you get into a wreak especially when you have been in a accident before ?

I don't want to pay for your constant car wreaks..


.

False analogy. You've already paid premiums... when somebody contracts an illness and has no insurance, then gets insurance and the insurance company is on the hooks for treatments when you haven't paid a dime of premiums, tell me, how is that going to work?

Bullshit... everyone has a huge deductible..

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[P@triot]

It doesn't prove anything but that you are a right wing hack who has no understanding of insurance. These companies knew this was coming, they could have created a policy that met the new requirements and replaced the old one with those 10 million customers.

No they couldn’t, you ignorant left-wing partisan hack. They couldn’t increase service as the same cost. Life all wing-nuts, you’re not only ignorant of legislation, you’re ignorant of business (especially insurance).

Barack Insane Obama adamantly promised over and over “if you like your policy, you can keep your policy”. If the insurance company had to cancel an existing policy and create a new one like you keep crowing about, then that was an egregious lie.

 

[debbiedowner]

Think about this:

Last year I had to go to the Emergency Room and was very sick. The Emergency room was jammed packed out the door with people ( illegals and those without insurance ) The Emergency Rooms by law have to see everyone.
They were using it like a doctors office,and the Emergency Rooms charge $500.00 for a bandage.

Most can't pay that huge bill...who pays for it? You do!

It is only going to get worse..


.

I dont goto emergency rooms for regular medical care.
Poor people stiffing the system will always be a problem. Obamacare didn't fix it, this EO won't make it any worse. Being an alarmist solves nothing.

My point is......Trump playing reality TV man signing this bullshit is not fixing anything..


.

If it works it will fix plenty for thoes that were fucked over after the ACA was passed.
And I don't wanna hear about the woes of anyone left behind. They wouldn't have been put in this situation if not for democrats to begin with. Their free ride was not guaranteed to be endless. Eventually the ones under the boot wrestle free and the price is paid.

Dude..Medi-cal is a free ride not Obamacare.. People pay a lot of money for Obamacare. Are you getting a free ride when your house burns down after paying for insurance ?
Or a free ride when you you get into a wreak especially when you have been in a accident before ?

I don't want to pay for your constant car wreaks..


.

False analogy. You've already paid premiums... when somebody contracts an illness and has no insurance, then gets insurance and the insurance company is on the hooks for treatments when you haven't paid a dime of premiums, tell me, how is that going to work?

No yours is false, you could not get insurance anytime of the year just because you got sick, you had to wait until open enrollment. If you got sick in January without insurance you have to wait all year to get it.

 

[P@triot]

I know how insurance works.

 

[debbiedowner]

It doesn't prove anything but that you are a right wing hack who has no understanding of insurance. These companies knew this was coming, they could have created a policy that met the new requirements and replaced the old one with those 10 million customers.

No they couldn’t, you ignorant left-wing partisan hack. They couldn’t increase service as the same cost. Life all wing-nuts, you’re not only ignorant of legislation, you’re ignorant of business (especially insurance).

Barack Insane Obama adamantly promised over and over “if you like your policy, you can keep your policy”. If the insurance company had to cancel an existing policy and create a new one like you keep crowing about, then that was an egregious lie.

The insurance companies DID NOT have to cancel grandfathered plans some chose to do so. Don't blame that one on obama. Put the credit where it belongs.

 

[Rustic]

Trump's EO allows younger, healthier people to purchase less expensive plans. Young people say its about time, they are tired of subsidizing the moochers and sick old people.

My son already bought a very inexpensive insurance last year...you are believing the lies .

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And your son can keep his plan what are you bitching about?

My other son is in college and is a type 1 Juvenile diabetic insulin dependent ... We are screwing over our younger generation so bad.

Do you know what a pre-existing illness is? I will get the list for you..


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I don't think you know how Obamacare is funded. Young healthy people who don't have a lot of money this early in their careers are paying for your son's pre-existing condition how is that fair?

No, you don't understand how it works, young people not making much money if they have insurance are enjoying a pretty decent subsidy.

No, Young healthy people should not be burdened with the unhealthy...

 

[bripat9643]

This coming from a dolt who defends Obamacare. Does it work?

It works, but like anything else, it needs tweaking to make it better. Think of it like a ferrari. It doesn't run right, unless you keep it tuned up.

It doesn't work, dumbass. It's worse than what we had before. Premiums are far higher. Deductibles are far higher. Prescriptions and doctor visits aren't covered. It's virtually worthless.

You don't buy insurance to get free shit...you buy it for accidents . Medicare prescription coverage doesn't even pay for your prescriptions 100% when you are old.

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The Obamacare policy I had paid 0% of my prescriptions, dumbass. Promising a bunch of free shit is exactly what the supporters of Obamacare did. Unfornutely only a select bunch of moochers got the free shit. The rest of us have to pay for it with dramatically higher premiums and worse coverage.

The issue here is whether Obamacare is better than what was available previously. For that vast majority of Americans, it's far worse.

 

[Eaglewings]

Why would he do this to millions of sick people getting treatments for survival , including young children?

Insurance companies aren't in the business of covering pre-existing conditions any more than you are. Do you even know what the word "insurance" means?

LOL.. Do you want to know how many drunks are covered by auto-insurance after getting into a wreak.. That is a pre-existing condition.

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[dblack]

If you thought your insurance premiums were high before? The government just decided not to pay the insurance subsidies. So a shit ton of people will now not be able to afford their insurance.

Insurance is the problem, not the solution.

So what you are driving without car insurance? Or own a home without home insurance...?

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Let me amend that to "Group insurance is the problem". That's where things went south with health care.

Car insurance and home insurance policies work fine because they are purchased individually.

 

[bripat9643]

It doesn't prove anything but that you are a right wing hack who has no understanding of insurance. These companies knew this was coming, they could have created a policy that met the new requirements and replaced the old one with those 10 million customers.

No they couldn’t, you ignorant left-wing partisan hack. They couldn’t increase service as the same cost. Life all wing-nuts, you’re not only ignorant of legislation, you’re ignorant of business (especially insurance).

Barack Insane Obama adamantly promised over and over “if you like your policy, you can keep your policy”. If the insurance company had to cancel an existing policy and create a new one like you keep crowing about, then that was an egregious lie.

The insurance companies DID NOT have to cancel grandfathered plans some chose to do so. Don't blame that one on obama. Put the credit where it belongs.

Obama promised that you wouldn't have to change your plan if Obamacare passed, so he is to blame. Obamacare regulations are what forced insurance companies to change your plan. What you're saying is that if the government passes a law requiring air bags in your car, then the car companies are responsible for putting air bags in your car.

Total bullshit.

 

[bripat9643]

Why would he do this to millions of sick people getting treatments for survival , including young children?

Insurance companies aren't in the business of covering pre-existing conditions any more than you are. Do you even know what the word "insurance" means?

LOL.. Do you want to know how many drunks are covered by auto-insurance after getting into a wreak.. That is a pre-existing condition.

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That's like saying stabbing yourself in the stomach is a pre-existing condition.

You obviously lack the capacity to commit logic.

 

[Eaglewings]

It doesn't prove anything but that you are a right wing hack who has no understanding of insurance. These companies knew this was coming, they could have created a policy that met the new requirements and replaced the old one with those 10 million customers.

No they couldn’t, you ignorant left-wing partisan hack. They couldn’t increase service as the same cost. Life all wing-nuts, you’re not only ignorant of legislation, you’re ignorant of business (especially insurance).

Barack Insane Obama adamantly promised over and over “if you like your policy, you can keep your policy”. If the insurance company had to cancel an existing policy and create a new one like you keep crowing about, then that was an egregious lie.

If you like your doctor...lol keep your doctor.. And it was your state government who screwed you over not Obamacare..

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[dblack]

Why would he do this to millions of sick people getting treatments for survival , including young children?

Insurance companies aren't in the business of covering pre-existing conditions any more than you are. Do you even know what the word "insurance" means?

LOL.. Do you want to know how many drunks are covered by auto-insurance after getting into a wreak.. That is a pre-existing condition.

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Only because of idiotic regulation. Because most states mandate auto liability insurance, they have various schemes for subsidizing insurance for high-risk drivers. In a sane market, no company would insure a habitual drunk driver. It takes government to get that stupid.

 

[Eaglewings]

My son already bought a very inexpensive insurance last year...you are believing the lies .

.

And your son can keep his plan what are you bitching about?

My other son is in college and is a type 1 Juvenile diabetic insulin dependent ... We are screwing over our younger generation so bad.

Do you know what a pre-existing illness is? I will get the list for you..


.

I don't think you know how Obamacare is funded. Young healthy people who don't have a lot of money this early in their careers are paying for your son's pre-existing condition how is that fair?

No, you don't understand how it works, young people not making much money if they have insurance are enjoying a pretty decent subsidy.

No, Young healthy people should not be burdened with the unhealthy...

Didn't they already take the mandate off for young folks..

Also my son got emergency coverage a year ago for a good price...Everyone should have insurance , being young doesn't keep you from getting cancer ect..

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[jc456]

Why would he do this to millions of sick people getting treatments for survival , including young children?.

Separately, the order would allow consumers to buy short-term policies, which don't have to comply with Obamacare's protections for those with pre-existing conditions. Also, it looks to broaden the ability of employers to give workers money to buy their own coverage through health reimbursement arrangements, known as HRAs.


Trump begins Obamacare dismantling with executive order - CNNPolitics

so I'm confused by your post. Are you saying people with pre-existing conditions won't be covered? proof. What were they doing prior to obummerfail? do you even know? nice bumper sticker post.

 

[bripat9643]

It doesn't prove anything but that you are a right wing hack who has no understanding of insurance. These companies knew this was coming, they could have created a policy that met the new requirements and replaced the old one with those 10 million customers.

No they couldn’t, you ignorant left-wing partisan hack. They couldn’t increase service as the same cost. Life all wing-nuts, you’re not only ignorant of legislation, you’re ignorant of business (especially insurance).

Barack Insane Obama adamantly promised over and over “if you like your policy, you can keep your policy”. If the insurance company had to cancel an existing policy and create a new one like you keep crowing about, then that was an egregious lie.

The insurance companies DID NOT have to cancel grandfathered plans some chose to do so. Don't blame that one on obama. Put the credit where it belongs.

Yes they did have to cancel existing plans. Obamacare regulations forced them to.

 

[Rustic]

I didn't mean you personally lol

You are familiar with metaphors right?

Think about this:

Last year I had to go to the Emergency Room and was very sick. The Emergency room was jammed packed out the door with people ( illegals and those without insurance ) The Emergency Rooms by law have to see everyone.
They were using it like a doctors office,and the Emergency Rooms charge $500.00 for a bandage.

Most can't pay that huge bill...who pays for it? You do!

It is only going to get worse..


.

I dont goto emergency rooms for regular medical care.
Poor people stiffing the system will always be a problem. Obamacare didn't fix it, this EO won't make it any worse. Being an alarmist solves nothing.

My point is......Trump playing reality TV man signing this bullshit is not fixing anything..


.

If it works it will fix plenty for thoes that were fucked over after the ACA was passed.
And I don't wanna hear about the woes of anyone left behind. They wouldn't have been put in this situation if not for democrats to begin with. Their free ride was not guaranteed to be endless. Eventually the ones under the boot wrestle free and the price is paid.

Dude..Medi-cal is a free ride not Obamacare.. People pay a lot of money for Obamacare. Are you getting a free ride when your house burns down after paying for insurance ?
Or a free ride when you you get into a wreak especially when you have been in a accident before ?

I don't want to pay for your constant car wreaks..


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Any type of forced insurance is nothing more than legalized extortion. The problem with any type of a collective is there is a 100% chance of abuses.
And making them mandatory just makes things much, much worse...
Young people can not afford unnecessary things like insurance, They should have to save their money for more important things. And healthy people should not be burdened other peoples shit...

 

[jc456]

And your son can keep his plan what are you bitching about?

My other son is in college and is a type 1 Juvenile diabetic insulin dependent ... We are screwing over our younger generation so bad.

Do you know what a pre-existing illness is? I will get the list for you..


.

I don't think you know how Obamacare is funded. Young healthy people who don't have a lot of money this early in their careers are paying for your son's pre-existing condition how is that fair?

No, you don't understand how it works, young people not making much money if they have insurance are enjoying a pretty decent subsidy.

No, Young healthy people should not be burdened with the unhealthy...

Didn't they already take the mandate off for young folks..

Also my son got emergency coverage a year ago for a good price...Everyone should have insurance , being young doesn't keep you from getting cancer ect..

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ok, stop projecting your beliefs! fk I can't stand that.

 

[bripat9643]

It doesn't prove anything but that you are a right wing hack who has no understanding of insurance. These companies knew this was coming, they could have created a policy that met the new requirements and replaced the old one with those 10 million customers.

No they couldn’t, you ignorant left-wing partisan hack. They couldn’t increase service as the same cost. Life all wing-nuts, you’re not only ignorant of legislation, you’re ignorant of business (especially insurance).

Barack Insane Obama adamantly promised over and over “if you like your policy, you can keep your policy”. If the insurance company had to cancel an existing policy and create a new one like you keep crowing about, then that was an egregious lie.

If you like your doctor...lol keep your doctor.. And it was your state government who screwed you over not Obamacare..

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It was Obamacare, you stupid cockroach.