Two Ways to Help Stop Mass Shootings

No it isn't. You can buy and own all the above, and carry them from a to b if you have a good reason to do so. And I'm not telling anyone what laws they should have to live under, merely pointing out that your currrent system is regarded as foolish by most of the rest of the world.

Hey didn't that Norway shooter have a gun? Are guns legal in Norway?

Also, did any American ask you what you think of us?

Americans. How many of you give one rat's behind what Vagabond thinks of us? I'll start. I do not.
 
No, initially, the police make a determination, but ultimately, a jury of my peers. Yes, I agree, you can be arrested for possessing child pornography books, I see no problems there.
Yeah you can be arrested for owning the Anarchist's Cookbook too.




There is no analogy between that and child pornography.
 
If you say so. Bet you voted for Trump too.
Of course. He protects us from progressives.


What's this fixation on lever action rifles?
They offer reasonably rapid repeat shots which makes them useful for self defense. At least assuming a reasonable magazine capacity.

I'm trying to figure out whether the UK denies civilian access to any gun that is useful for self defense, or whether there are a few self-defense guns around the edges that some civilians are allowed to have.


Well, your gun industry is financing and supplying most of the repressive and authoritarian states in the world, so I suspect it's only a matter of time before America becomes a repressive and authoritarian state too, if they have their way.
Our gun industry is not financing anyone but their shareholders.


In reality you are manipulated by those in control of you to believe that you are "free".
Not at all. We really do have the right to keep and bear arms.
 
Having one point of entry is a BAD idea. No public building is made that way. You have to think about how to escape in case of fire.

Entry, not exit. All the other doors would exist but you would only enter at one point

The other doors would be locked except for sit purposes…
 
/———/ OK. I corrected the typo. Now answer my question.
1. Common sense gun laws is code for ban and confiscation.
2. Define Assault Rifle and tell us how an AR15 fits that category.
We eagerly await your misinformed response.
Most countries have common sense gun laws and their populations have guns. This is why they experience few gun incidents. If memory serves, I think only four countries banned guns.

Definition of assault rifle

: any of various intermediate-range, magazine-fed military rifles (such as the AK-47) that can be set for automatic or semiautomatic firealso : a rifle that resembles a military assault rifle but is designed to allow only semiautomatic fire

 
1) ALL politicians should be barred from accepting donations from the NRA. At the national, state and local level. The reason we cannot get any common sense gun laws put into place is because too many politicians (Democrat and Republican, I hear) are beholden to the NRA.
2) Make it illegal to purchase or own any kind of assault rifle. They are not needed for home protection or hunting. They are only good for killing large numbers of people, really fast.

Our children are being killed in their classrooms. We must act now. They can't vote; they don't have a voice. WE MUST BE THEIR VOICE. PLEASE.

Drop nukes on every city in the US, that'd stop school shootings too.... be more helpful than your suggestions.
 
Most countries have common sense gun laws and their populations have guns. This is why they experience few gun incidents. If memory serves, I think only four countries banned guns.

Definition of assault rifle

: any of various intermediate-range, magazine-fed military rifles (such as the AK-47) that can be set for automatic or semiautomatic firealso : a rifle that resembles a military assault rifle but is designed to allow only semiautomatic fire

LOL the definition is a joke. Any weapon that resembles a military weapon hahahahahahahaha
 
Most countries have common sense gun laws and their populations have guns. This is why they experience few gun incidents. If memory serves, I think only four countries banned guns.

Definition of assault rifle

: any of various intermediate-range, magazine-fed military rifles (such as the AK-47) that can be set for automatic or semiautomatic firealso : a rifle that resembles a military assault rifle but is designed to allow only semiautomatic fire

/——-/ The civilian version of the AR-15 is a semi-automatic rifle meaning one round is fired with each pull of the trigger as opposed to military versions which are fully automatic that continue to fire as long as the trigger is pulled.
Fully-automatic firearms have been heavily regulated by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) since 1934, and the sale of automatic firearms has been effectively banned since 1986.
The AR in AR-15 is does not stand for Assault Rifle, but it’s actually AramaLite, the name of the original manufacturer.
Assault Weapon is just a made up name by gun grabbers to demonize a legal fire arm.
 
Most countries have common sense gun laws and their populations have guns. This is why they experience few gun incidents. If memory serves, I think only four countries banned guns.

Definition of assault rifle

: any of various intermediate-range, magazine-fed military rifles (such as the AK-47) that can be set for automatic or semiautomatic firealso : a rifle that resembles a military assault rifle but is designed to allow only semiautomatic fire

For the umpteenth time we do have gun laws.

Tell me which federal gun laws are not "common sense"

The problem is that the government and cops do not enforce the gun laws we already have
 
/——-/ The civilian version of the AR-15 is a semi-automatic rifle meaning one round is fired with each pull of the trigger as opposed to military versions which are fully automatic that continue to fire as long as the trigger is pulled.
Fully-automatic firearms have been heavily regulated by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) since 1934, and the sale of automatic firearms has been effectively banned since 1986.
The AR in AR-15 is does not stand for Assault Rifle, but it’s actually AramaLite, the name of the original manufacturer.
Assault Weapon is just a made up name by gun grabbers to demonize a legal fire arm.
If you read the link again, which is an American Dictionary, it states -

a rifle that resembles a military assault rifle but is designed to allow only semiautomatic fire

Now if you feel it is wrong, you need to email your American dictionary company and explain that they don't know the correct definition, beacuse at this moment in time across the planet, an assault rifle is a rifle that resembles a military assault rifle but is designed to allow only semiautomatic fire.
 
For the umpteenth time we do have gun laws.

Tell me which federal gun laws are not "common sense"

The problem is that the government and cops do not enforce the gun laws we already have
Wandering around shops with loaded guns. Dumb.

Not securing guns at home when not in use. Dumb.

Giving guns to people with the mentality to shoot others under the fallacy of self defence. Dumb.

Hang on....I'm just going over this yet again, that has been mentioned on here for over a year.
 
Wandering around shops with loaded guns. Dumb.

Not securing guns at home when not in use. Dumb.

Giving guns to people with the mentality to shoot others under the fallacy of self defence. Dumb.

Hang on....I'm just going over this yet again, that has been mentioned on here for over a year.
Concealed carry is not a cause of crime. In fact people who legally carry concealed weapons are the most law abiding people in the country.

And how do you know guns aren't secured?

FYI if you lock your doors when you leave the house then your guns are secured.

We have laws that prohibit gun ownership by those people adjudicated to be mentally ill.
 
If you read the link again, which is an American Dictionary, it states -

a rifle that resembles a military assault rifle but is designed to allow only semiautomatic fire

Now if you feel it is wrong, you need to email your American dictionary company and explain that they don't know the correct definition, beacuse at this moment in time across the planet, an assault rifle is a rifle that resembles a military assault rifle but is designed to allow only semiautomatic fire.
/———/ Do you not understand what “resemble” means? Check your American dictionary.

re·sem·ble​

/rəˈzemb(ə)l/​

verb
  • 1.have qualities or features, especially those of appearance, in common with (someone or something); look or seem like:"some people resemble their dogs"
 
/———/ Do you not understand what “resemble” means? Check your American dictionary.

re·sem·ble​

/rəˈzemb(ə)l/​

verb
  • 1.have qualities or features, especially those of appearance, in common with (someone or something); look or seem like:"some people resemble their dogs"
In the UK we have British dictionaries :)
 
Concealed carry is not a cause of crime. In fact people who legally carry concealed weapons are the most law abiding people in the country.

And how do you know guns aren't secured?

FYI if you lock your doors when you leave the house then your guns are secured.

We have laws that prohibit gun ownership by those people adjudicated to be mentally ill.
Guns in public is dumb. If they're not a cause of crime, leave them at home.

How do people know guns aren't secured at home? Because kids shoot one another and their parents. Secured at home means in a gun cabinet bolted to the wall that was checked by the police. As you guys are frightened of burglars, leaving guns at home in the top drawer or on the kitchen table is not secure, is it.

The mentally ill tend to be the victims of crime as opposed to being the cause, which has already been covered in past posts/threads.
 
Guns in public is dumb. If they're not a cause of crime, leave them at home.

How do people know guns aren't secured at home? Because kids shoot one another and their parents. Secured at home means in a gun cabinet bolted to the wall that was checked by the police. As you guys are frightened of burglars, leaving guns at home in the top drawer or on the kitchen table is not secure, is it.

The mentally ill tend to be the victims of crime as opposed to being the cause, which has already been covered in past posts/threads.
Jailing people for reading a book is dumb.

And violent crime is just as likely if not more likely to occur outside of the home.

The fact (which you love to ignore) is that people who legally carry concealed weapons are the most law abiding people in the country even more so than cops and they do nothing to add to the crime and/or murder rates.

You were just whining about the mentally ill getting guns.
 
Jailing people for reading a book is dumb.

And violent crime is just as likely if not more likely to occur outside of the home.

The fact (which you love to ignore) is that people who legally carry concealed weapons are the most law abiding people in the country even more so than cops and they do nothing to add to the crime and/or murder rates.

You were just whining about the mentally ill getting guns.
Jailing for reading a book is dumb, I agree.

As you've confirmed there's no need to have guns in the street.
 
Guns in public is dumb. If they're not a cause of crime, leave them at home.

How do people know guns aren't secured at home? Because kids shoot one another and their parents. Secured at home means in a gun cabinet bolted to the wall that was checked by the police. As you guys are frightened of burglars, leaving guns at home in the top drawer or on the kitchen table is not secure, is it.

The mentally ill tend to be the victims of crime as opposed to being the cause, which has already been covered in past posts/threads.

Jailing for reading a book is dumb, I agree.

As you've confirmed there's no need to have guns in the street.
I never said any such thing.

I SAID violent crime is just as or even more likely to occur outside of the home

and that concealed carry does not increase crime

Concealed-Carry Does NOT Increase Violent Crime – Doctors for Responsible Gun Ownership

During the study period, all states moved to adopt some form of concealed-carry legislation, with a trend toward less restrictive legislation. After adjusting for state and year, there was no significant association between shifts from restrictive to nonrestrictive carry legislation on violent crime and public health indicators. Adjusting further for poverty and unemployment did not significantly influence the results.
 

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