U.K. Lawmaker Calls For All Knives To Be Registered, Fitted With GPS Trackers

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Can our ABNORMALS look forward to knife registration here on America....NO 2nd Amendment rights violated here!!!

Tory MP Scott Mann has attracted mockery on social media after calling for strict new knife control measures including for every blade sold in the UK to be fitted with GPS tracking systems.

In a post on the micro-blogging platform Twitter, the representative for North Cornwall went on to declare that Britain should create a “national database” of people who own knives, “like we do with guns”.

Anyone found to have carried a knife outside their property “had better have a bloody good explanation”, Mr Mann wrote, adding that there could be “obvious exceptions” for activities such as fishing.

Responses to the MP’s suggestion included ridicule, as well as many questions not only on the considerable expense of fitting every knife sold with GPS tracking equipment small enough to fit into the handles, but also over the practicality of monitoring tens of millions of knives considering the UK’s high population density and the fact such systems are accurate only to about five metres, or just over 16 feet.

Surging knife violence including a fivefold increase in machete attacks over the past three years has led to a significant crackdown on blades in Britain, with many stores voluntarily taking kitchen knives off the shelves as lawmakers call for an increasing number of restrictions to tackle the problem.

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It was just a tweet, not something he actually brought up on the floor of Parlament for a vote.

If anyone is interested in a source other than Breitbart for this news, here's what the BBC has to say about it........................

MP ridiculed over knife GPS tweet

He made a stupid tweet, and is now being mocked for it. Anyone that thinks that Britain is going to put GPS tracking on all their knives is sorely lacking in sense.
 
There has been a huge surge of knife attacks in recent years in England that has coincided with, yet was not caused by and has absolutely nothing to do with the recent influx of migrant children in their 20s and 30s. In fact, London's murder rate rivalled New York city's for the first time in a long time in 2018. However, England has found a solution. Force everyone to register every knife, including kitchen knives and pocket knives, and place a top of the line GPS in the handle, accurate to within a maximum of 5 meters. While one may think it would make knives very expensive to have a top of the line GPS device in every knife in your house, lawmakers have assured everyone that it will be free because the government will pay for it.

UK Lawmaker Calls For All Knives to be Registered, Fitted With GPS

"Every knife sold in the UK should have a gps tracker fitted in the handle. It’s time we had a national database like we do with guns. If you’re carrying it around you had better have a bloody good explanation, obvious exemptions for fishing etc."

"Although the UK already takes a much stricter approach towards the sale and possession of sharp objects than other nations, with authorities last year arresting a man for carrying a potato peeler in a public place “without reasonable excuse”, politicians are regularly urged to do more, such as banning kitchen knives on the basis that ordinary households do not require chef-sharp tools for food preparation."
 
We should do the same with guns; recording data of when they were fired, where they were fired etc…

99.99999% of gun owners are law abiding citizens who will never fire the gun in anger. So why are the 99.99999% standing up for the 00.00001%?

Sounds like it would be a great resource for the police in determining who fired the shots, etc…

The FBI are the good guys again, right…since they are now arresting hollywood felons, right?
 
You know, any time I see a link to Breitbart, I always go to Google and do the research myself.

Although it was a prime minister who TWEETED this thought out, it wasn't something that was brought up on the floor of parliament, and it wasn't brought to a vote. It was just something stupid this dude tweeted out, and he is currently catching a whole bunch of grief for it.

No. Britain isn't going to outfit all their knives with GPS, it was a stupid idea tweeted by someone in parliament, but it's not being brought to a vote.

For those who would like a credible link to something other than Breitbart, here's what the BBC says about it.....................

MP ridiculed over knife GPS tweet
 
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Next will be axes, shears, spades, shoves, hoes, pitch forks, machetes, bats, baseballs, hockey sticks, cricket sticks, pates, silverware, etc, etc, etc,...

Damn!!! Those lawmakers are going to have decades of work ahead of them as each and every individual item that can be turned into a weapon is legislated on.....

What happens when the battery runs out on all those GPS items?

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UK murder rate four times lower than the US

I said London's murder rate rivalled that of New York city's in 2018. This article states that it overtook it.

London murder rate 2018 - how many murders have there been so far & which city has the world's highest murder rate?
1. from your link
momentarily
2. hahahahah-NYCity is a gun controlled city !!!!!!!!!!!!!
very pro-gun St Louis population 320,000 ---murders 189
NYC population 8. 6 MILLION murders---- 289 = gun control works
3. UK murder rate FOUR times lower--not twice as low, not 3 times--but FOUR times
 
Hands can also be a weapon. Should we register hands, fit everyone's hands with a GPS device?

Liberals are insane.
 
Hands can also be a weapon. Should we register hands, fit everyone's hands with a GPS device?

Liberals are insane.
Yet the guy who suggested registering knives is a member of the Conservative Party, not a Liberal.
 
Hands can also be a weapon. Should we register hands, fit everyone's hands with a GPS device?

Liberals are insane.

In this case, it is the conservatives that are insane....................

Scott Mann (politician) - Wikipedia

Scott Leslie Mann (born 24 June 1977) is a British Conservative politician and former postman. He has been the Member of Parliament (MP) for North Cornwall since May 2015. He previously represented the Wadebridge West ward on Cornwall Council between 2009 and 2016.[1]
 
It was just a tweet, not something he actually brought up on the floor of Parlament for a vote.

If anyone is interested in a source other than Breitbart for this news, here's what the BBC has to say about it........................

MP ridiculed over knife GPS tweet

He made a stupid tweet, and is now being mocked for it. Anyone that thinks that Britain is going to put GPS tracking on all their knives is sorely lacking in sense.
Does he want only semi automatic knives fitted with a GPS or all knives?
 
There has been a huge surge of knife attacks in recent years in England that has coincided with, yet was not caused by and has absolutely nothing to do with the recent influx of migrant children in their 20s and 30s. In fact, London's murder rate rivalled New York city's for the first time in a long time in 2018. However, England has found a solution. Force everyone to register every knife, including kitchen knives and pocket knives, and place a top of the line GPS in the handle, accurate to within a maximum of 5 meters. While one may think it would make knives very expensive to have a top of the line GPS device in every knife in your house, lawmakers have assured everyone that it will be free because the government will pay for it.

UK Lawmaker Calls For All Knives to be Registered, Fitted With GPS

"Every knife sold in the UK should have a gps tracker fitted in the handle. It’s time we had a national database like we do with guns. If you’re carrying it around you had better have a bloody good explanation, obvious exemptions for fishing etc."

"Although the UK already takes a much stricter approach towards the sale and possession of sharp objects than other nations, with authorities last year arresting a man for carrying a potato peeler in a public place “without reasonable excuse”, politicians are regularly urged to do more, such as banning kitchen knives on the basis that ordinary households do not require chef-sharp tools for food preparation."


This is where it starts, we saw this in the 1950s here in the U.S. as the nuclear family began to break down in the inner cities....knives became prevalent in schools, knife assault became more common, and that led to criminals using guns.......Britain is about to find this out, as their social welfare system is creating more and more fatherless boys, the ones driving violence in these countries including our own.
 
UK murder rate four times lower than the US

I said London's murder rate rivalled that of New York city's in 2018. This article states that it overtook it.

London murder rate 2018 - how many murders have there been so far & which city has the world's highest murder rate?
1. from your link
momentarily
2. hahahahah-NYCity is a gun controlled city !!!!!!!!!!!!!
very pro-gun St Louis population 320,000 ---murders 189
NYC population 8. 6 MILLION murders---- 289 = gun control works
3. UK murder rate FOUR times lower--not twice as low, not 3 times--but FOUR times


Fatherless boys drive murder rates, not law abiding gun owners you mope....and you have been shown over and over again that it is democrat policies toward releasing violent, known, repeat gun offenders in these cities that allows for high gun murder rates....specifically St. Louis where the democrats have been in control since...1949.....

Law abiding gun owners do not murder people with their legal guns, you dumb ass......and Baltimore has 620,000 people, and even more extreme gun control than New York, you dumb ass, and a higher gun murder rate than New York.......gun control fails.....it is culture, crime control policies, and the having the democrats in charge that determine gun murder rates...

Baltimore has had democrat mayors since 1969.........

New York...had Rudy Guiliani and his police commissioner put in place actual crime control policies that targeted actual criminals......and now the democrats are getting rid of them and the murder rate is going back up...you doofus.

St. Louis

Democrats in charge since 1949

Mayor of St. Louis - Wikipedia


Rise in Murders Has St. Louis Debating Why

Jennifer M. Joyce, the city’s circuit attorney, or prosecutor, an elected position, complains that in St. Louis, the illegal possession of a gun is too often “a crime without a consequence,” making it difficult to stop confrontation from turning lethal.

At the same time, deeper social roots of violence such as addiction and unemployment continue unchecked. And city officials also cite what they call a “Ferguson effect,” an increase in crime last year as police officers were diverted to control protests after a white officer shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager in the nearby suburb on Aug. 9.

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Now, an overstretched department is forced to pick one neighborhood at a time to flood with officers. Last month, Chief Dotson even asked the state highway patrol if it could lend a dozen men to help watch downtown streets; the agency declined.
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When the police discover a gun in a car with several passengers, including some with felony records, but no one admits to owning the gun, criminal charges are often impossible, Mr. Rosenfeld said.

In addition, according to a 2014 study by Mr. Rosenfeld and his colleagues, a majority of those who are convicted of illegally possessing a gun but not caught using it in a crime receive probation rather than jail time. Gun laws and enforcement are stiffer in many other cities.

Violence down in St. Louis but homicides hold steady. Are tougher penalties for gun crimes the answer?
But many challenges remain, official said. The department is still down more than 130 officers. Witnesses to crimes remain reluctant to come forward for fear of retaliation, making it difficult to close cases. And a lack of state laws to deter gun crimes has forced the police to turn to federal courts to indict some suspects.

On Tuesday, Edwards made a new pitch: He wants to see the mandatory minimum sentence for armed criminal action raised from its current ceiling of three years to at least 15 years for nonfatal shootings, and 25 years for fatal shootings.
 
UK murder rate four times lower than the US

I said London's murder rate rivalled that of New York city's in 2018. This article states that it overtook it.

London murder rate 2018 - how many murders have there been so far & which city has the world's highest murder rate?
1. from your link
momentarily
2. hahahahah-NYCity is a gun controlled city !!!!!!!!!!!!!
very pro-gun St Louis population 320,000 ---murders 189
NYC population 8. 6 MILLION murders---- 289 = gun control works
3. UK murder rate FOUR times lower--not twice as low, not 3 times--but FOUR times


Fatherless boys drive murder rates, not law abiding gun owners you mope....and you have been shown over and over again that it is democrat policies toward releasing violent, known, repeat gun offenders in these cities that allows for high gun murder rates....specifically St. Louis where the democrats have been in control since...1949.....

Law abiding gun owners do not murder people with their legal guns, you dumb ass......and Baltimore has 620,000 people, and even more extreme gun control than New York, you dumb ass, and a higher gun murder rate than New York.......gun control fails.....it is culture, crime control policies, and the having the democrats in charge that determine gun murder rates...

Baltimore has had democrat mayors since 1969.........

New York...had Rudy Guiliani and his police commissioner put in place actual crime control policies that targeted actual criminals......and now the democrats are getting rid of them and the murder rate is going back up...you doofus.

St. Louis

Democrats in charge since 1949

Mayor of St. Louis - Wikipedia


Rise in Murders Has St. Louis Debating Why

Jennifer M. Joyce, the city’s circuit attorney, or prosecutor, an elected position, complains that in St. Louis, the illegal possession of a gun is too often “a crime without a consequence,” making it difficult to stop confrontation from turning lethal.

At the same time, deeper social roots of violence such as addiction and unemployment continue unchecked. And city officials also cite what they call a “Ferguson effect,” an increase in crime last year as police officers were diverted to control protests after a white officer shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager in the nearby suburb on Aug. 9.

-----------

Now, an overstretched department is forced to pick one neighborhood at a time to flood with officers. Last month, Chief Dotson even asked the state highway patrol if it could lend a dozen men to help watch downtown streets; the agency declined.
----
When the police discover a gun in a car with several passengers, including some with felony records, but no one admits to owning the gun, criminal charges are often impossible, Mr. Rosenfeld said.

In addition, according to a 2014 study by Mr. Rosenfeld and his colleagues, a majority of those who are convicted of illegally possessing a gun but not caught using it in a crime receive probation rather than jail time. Gun laws and enforcement are stiffer in many other cities.

Violence down in St. Louis but homicides hold steady. Are tougher penalties for gun crimes the answer?
But many challenges remain, official said. The department is still down more than 130 officers. Witnesses to crimes remain reluctant to come forward for fear of retaliation, making it difficult to close cases. And a lack of state laws to deter gun crimes has forced the police to turn to federal courts to indict some suspects.

On Tuesday, Edwards made a new pitch: He wants to see the mandatory minimum sentence for armed criminal action raised from its current ceiling of three years to at least 15 years for nonfatal shootings, and 25 years for fatal shootings.
no law abiding gun owner has ever murdered with THEIR guns?
are you sure you don't want to change that??
 
UK murder rate four times lower than the US

I said London's murder rate rivalled that of New York city's in 2018. This article states that it overtook it.

London murder rate 2018 - how many murders have there been so far & which city has the world's highest murder rate?
1. from your link
momentarily
2. hahahahah-NYCity is a gun controlled city !!!!!!!!!!!!!
very pro-gun St Louis population 320,000 ---murders 189
NYC population 8. 6 MILLION murders---- 289 = gun control works
3. UK murder rate FOUR times lower--not twice as low, not 3 times--but FOUR times


You are such a doofus......as New York embraces democrat party crime control policies and throw away Guilianni's policies....?

New York under democrats.........ignoring actual criminals.....

Murder rate rises 55 percent in New York City, NYPD statistics say

Murder rates in New York City are up 55 percent in 2019 compared to the same time frame in 2018, according to NYPD statistics.
----

The surge takes place as overall crime in New York City is down eight percent. The increase in murders is largely credited to a jump in violent crime in Northern Brooklyn. The ten precincts that comprise North Brooklyn have recorded 15 murders in the time frame this year, compared to just three last year -- a 400 percent increase.

The number of shootings that have not resulted in death are on the rise as well, with 22 people shot compared to 13 last year, a 69 percent jump.


 
UK murder rate four times lower than the US

I said London's murder rate rivalled that of New York city's in 2018. This article states that it overtook it.

London murder rate 2018 - how many murders have there been so far & which city has the world's highest murder rate?
1. from your link
momentarily
2. hahahahah-NYCity is a gun controlled city !!!!!!!!!!!!!
very pro-gun St Louis population 320,000 ---murders 189
NYC population 8. 6 MILLION murders---- 289 = gun control works
3. UK murder rate FOUR times lower--not twice as low, not 3 times--but FOUR times


Fatherless boys drive murder rates, not law abiding gun owners you mope....and you have been shown over and over again that it is democrat policies toward releasing violent, known, repeat gun offenders in these cities that allows for high gun murder rates....specifically St. Louis where the democrats have been in control since...1949.....

Law abiding gun owners do not murder people with their legal guns, you dumb ass......and Baltimore has 620,000 people, and even more extreme gun control than New York, you dumb ass, and a higher gun murder rate than New York.......gun control fails.....it is culture, crime control policies, and the having the democrats in charge that determine gun murder rates...

Baltimore has had democrat mayors since 1969.........

New York...had Rudy Guiliani and his police commissioner put in place actual crime control policies that targeted actual criminals......and now the democrats are getting rid of them and the murder rate is going back up...you doofus.

St. Louis

Democrats in charge since 1949

Mayor of St. Louis - Wikipedia


Rise in Murders Has St. Louis Debating Why

Jennifer M. Joyce, the city’s circuit attorney, or prosecutor, an elected position, complains that in St. Louis, the illegal possession of a gun is too often “a crime without a consequence,” making it difficult to stop confrontation from turning lethal.

At the same time, deeper social roots of violence such as addiction and unemployment continue unchecked. And city officials also cite what they call a “Ferguson effect,” an increase in crime last year as police officers were diverted to control protests after a white officer shot and killed Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager in the nearby suburb on Aug. 9.

-----------

Now, an overstretched department is forced to pick one neighborhood at a time to flood with officers. Last month, Chief Dotson even asked the state highway patrol if it could lend a dozen men to help watch downtown streets; the agency declined.
----
When the police discover a gun in a car with several passengers, including some with felony records, but no one admits to owning the gun, criminal charges are often impossible, Mr. Rosenfeld said.

In addition, according to a 2014 study by Mr. Rosenfeld and his colleagues, a majority of those who are convicted of illegally possessing a gun but not caught using it in a crime receive probation rather than jail time. Gun laws and enforcement are stiffer in many other cities.

Violence down in St. Louis but homicides hold steady. Are tougher penalties for gun crimes the answer?
But many challenges remain, official said. The department is still down more than 130 officers. Witnesses to crimes remain reluctant to come forward for fear of retaliation, making it difficult to close cases. And a lack of state laws to deter gun crimes has forced the police to turn to federal courts to indict some suspects.

On Tuesday, Edwards made a new pitch: He wants to see the mandatory minimum sentence for armed criminal action raised from its current ceiling of three years to at least 15 years for nonfatal shootings, and 25 years for fatal shootings.
Las Vegas shooter bought 33 guns in last 12 months

and guns don't stop crime
More Guns Do Not Stop More Crimes, Evidence Shows
 
UK murder rate four times lower than the US

I said London's murder rate rivalled that of New York city's in 2018. This article states that it overtook it.

London murder rate 2018 - how many murders have there been so far & which city has the world's highest murder rate?
1. from your link
momentarily
2. hahahahah-NYCity is a gun controlled city !!!!!!!!!!!!!
very pro-gun St Louis population 320,000 ---murders 189
NYC population 8. 6 MILLION murders---- 289 = gun control works
3. UK murder rate FOUR times lower--not twice as low, not 3 times--but FOUR times


You are such a doofus......as New York embraces democrat party crime control policies and throw away Guilianni's policies....?

New York under democrats.........ignoring actual criminals.....

Murder rate rises 55 percent in New York City, NYPD statistics say

Murder rates in New York City are up 55 percent in 2019 compared to the same time frame in 2018, according to NYPD statistics.
----

The surge takes place as overall crime in New York City is down eight percent. The increase in murders is largely credited to a jump in violent crime in Northern Brooklyn. The ten precincts that comprise North Brooklyn have recorded 15 murders in the time frame this year, compared to just three last year -- a 400 percent increase.

The number of shootings that have not resulted in death are on the rise as well, with 22 people shot compared to 13 last year, a 69 percent jump.

at BEST--your arguments are NOT conclusive
but we KNOW US murder rate is HIGH
 

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