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U.S. GDP Growth Hits 4.1%! Trump's Strong Economy Is "Lifting All Boats"

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Outpacing all expectations, U.S. GDP grew an amazing 4.1% in the second quarter of this year, with much of that growth being fueled by large increases in consumer spending and exports. Why? Well, because thanks to the Trump tax cuts, tens of millions of consumers have a lot more money in their pockets, and because Trump's protectionist trade policies have contributed to a large increase in exports (exports jumped by a whopping 9.3% in the second quarter).

Trump's rising-tide economy is lifting all boats, including the least-educated workers who were hit the hardest by the 2008-2010 recession:

It has been two decades since the U.S. enjoyed sustained economic growth above 3 percent, and it turns out that a rising tide really does lift all boats.

The New York Times reports:

"The least educated American workers, who took the hardest hit in the Great Recession, were also among the slowest to harvest the gains of the recovery. Now they are a striking symbol of a strong economy.

"The unemployment rate for those without a high school diploma fell to 5.1 percent in July, the Labor Department reported Friday, the lowest since the government began collecting data on such workers in 1992. At the economy’s nadir in the summer of 2009, the unemployment rate for high school dropouts hit 15.6 percent, more than three times the peak unemployment rate for college graduates.…

"'As economists, we worried these workers would be shut out forever,’ she said. ‘But the long duration of the recovery has pulled them back in. As the economy adds more jobs, employers have had to dig a little deeper. . . .’"

How much of this can President Trump take credit for? Certainly, he has benefited from the economy’s recovery from the financial crisis, which was already complete before he came into office. But under President Obama, the economy “recovered” to relatively slow growth. There is a good case to be made that under Trump, growth has been accelerated by the tax cuts pushed through Congress and his deregulatory efforts. . . . It’s not as good as Reagan’s “morning again in America,” which saw five straight quarters of growth above 7 percent, but it’s better than anything we’ve seen in a long time. (New Economic Growth Shows A Rising Tide Really Does Lift All Boats)​

Another positive sign of strong economic growth is the enormous jump in manufacturing jobs and the fact that most of those new jobs are in durable goods. Since January through July of this year (August's stats won't out for two more weeks), the economy has added 173,000 manufacturing jobs, whereas we actually suffered a net loss in manufacturing jobs during Obama's eight years! The last time the economy added that many manufacturing jobs in a seven-month period was . . . 1984 (Bureau of Labor Statistics Data -- set the date range to 1981 to 2018). So we are seeing truly historic growth in manufacturing jobs.

In defending his massive tax-cut proposal (which, by the way, included a huge tax cut for the rich), JFK stated that "a rising tide lifts all boats." We are seeing that truth verified once again. It's not rocket science: When you let people keep more of their own money, when you make it less expensive for our businesses to operate, and when you let our businesses keep more of their profits, the economy grows and everybody benefits.
 
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I know my remodeling business has done very well since his victory.

This winter will be the real tell for me. Last year was the anticipation of a Trump administration. This year will be the real deal
 
Outpacing all expectations, U.S. GDP grew an amazing 4.1% in the second quarter of this year, with much of that growth being fueled by large increases in consumer spending and exports. Why?

Because Obama fixed all the crap Bush *$(%$*&#.

Not to worry, Trump will ($%^$# all those things again... and then you'll be thinking of excuses when we are in Great Recession 2, Electric Bugaloo.

You live in a dream world. If what you say is true, why did we have a NET LOSS of manufacturing jobs under Obama? Why did the U-6 rate remain historically high under Obama? You don't think that letting taxpayers in the second, third, and fourth tax brackets keep between $70 and $400 more of their income each month is the reason for the boost in consumer spending? You don't think that making it less expensive for our businesses to operate and letting them keep more of their profits is behind the growth in jobs and GDP?

Finally, you are apparently unaware that Obama made most of the Bush tax cuts permanent, and that he extended new tax breaks to small businesses, that he protected $700 billion in tax breaks for our companies, and that he lifted the ban on oil exports. These policies were the main reason for the growth that we had during his presidency.
 
You live in a dream world. If what you say is true, why did we have a NET LOSS of manufacturing jobs under Obama? Why did the U-6 rate remain historically high under Obama?

Did you miss the part with the worst recession in 80 years starting before he took office.

Yes, yes, you did. Who's a good little racist? You are.. you are...

Done with you and this thread.
 
Wtf? This came out weeks ago.

Solid GDP growth for sure but Obama had 5% growth quarter in 2014 and all the righties were still bitching about STAGNATION!!
 
Did you miss the part with the worst recession in 80 years starting before he took office.

Yes, and Senator Obama had voted for and supported the very policies that did the most to cause the Great Recession. Did you miss that part?

But, to his credit, once he became president, Obama ignored the far-left wing of his party and extended most of the Bush tax cuts and then made most of them permanent. He also signed other tax cuts, including a cut in the payroll tax and new deductions for small businesses. He also protected some $700 billion in corporate tax breaks and agreed to lift the ban on oil exports. How do you think the economy would have performed if Obama had not followed these conservative policies?

Yes, yes, you did. Who's a good little racist? You are.. you are...

Uh. . . . Huh??? So now people who disagree with you about economics are also racists?! Yeah, ok. Thanks for sharing.
 
You live in a dream world. If what you say is true, why did we have a NET LOSS of manufacturing jobs under Obama?

It is this thing called automation, perhaps you have heard of it? 80% of manufacturing jobs lost were lost due to automation.

Why did the U-6 rate remain historically high under Obama?

The U6 since 2009...steady decline that did not change at all after the election

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You don't think that letting taxpayers in the second, third, and fourth tax brackets keep between $70 and $400 more of their income each month is the reason for the boost in consumer spending? You don't think that making it less expensive for our businesses to operate and letting them keep more of their profits is behind the growth in jobs and GDP?

Consumer spending since 2008, steadily rising and nothing changed after the tax cuts or the election..

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Any more bullshit you would like to try and pass off?
 
Outpacing all expectations, U.S. GDP grew an amazing 4.1% in the second quarter of this year, with much of that growth being fueled by large increases in consumer spending and exports. Why? Well, because thanks to the Trump tax cuts, tens of millions of consumers have a lot more money in their pockets, and because Trump's protectionist trade policies have contributed to a large increase in exports (exports jumped by a whopping 9.3% in the second quarter).

Trump's rising-tide economy is lifting all boats, including the least-educated workers who were hit the hardest by the 2008-2010 recession:

It has been two decades since the U.S. enjoyed sustained economic growth above 3 percent, and it turns out that a rising tide really does lift all boats.

The New York Times reports:

"The least educated American workers, who took the hardest hit in the Great Recession, were also among the slowest to harvest the gains of the recovery. Now they are a striking symbol of a strong economy.

"The unemployment rate for those without a high school diploma fell to 5.1 percent in July, the Labor Department reported Friday, the lowest since the government began collecting data on such workers in 1992. At the economy’s nadir in the summer of 2009, the unemployment rate for high school dropouts hit 15.6 percent, more than three times the peak unemployment rate for college graduates.…

"'As economists, we worried these workers would be shut out forever,’ she said. ‘But the long duration of the recovery has pulled them back in. As the economy adds more jobs, employers have had to dig a little deeper. . . .’"

How much of this can President Trump take credit for? Certainly, he has benefited from the economy’s recovery from the financial crisis, which was already complete before he came into office. But under President Obama, the economy “recovered” to relatively slow growth. There is a good case to be made that under Trump, growth has been accelerated by the tax cuts pushed through Congress and his deregulatory efforts. . . . It’s not as good as Reagan’s “morning again in America,” which saw five straight quarters of growth above 7 percent, but it’s better than anything we’ve seen in a long time. (New Economic Growth Shows A Rising Tide Really Does Lift All Boats)​

Another positive sign of strong economic growth is the enormous jump in manufacturing jobs and the fact that most of those new jobs are in durable goods. Since January through July of this year (August's stats won't out for two more weeks), the economy has added 173,000 manufacturing jobs, whereas we actually suffered a net loss in manufacturing jobs during Obama's eight years! The last time the economy added that many manufacturing jobs in a seven-month period was . . . 1984 (Bureau of Labor Statistics Data -- set the date range to 1981 to 2018). So we are seeing truly historic growth in manufacturing jobs.

In defending his massive tax-cut proposal (which, by the way, included a huge tax cut for the rich), JFK stated that "a rising tide lifts all boats." We are seeing that truth verified once again. It's not rocket science: When you let people keep more of their own money, when you make it less expensive for our businesses to operate, and when you let our businesses keep more of their profits, the economy grows and everybody benefits.


The adjusted numbers for the GDP come out in 3 days, anyone willing to put a wager on if they go up or down?
 
Outpacing all expectations, U.S. GDP grew an amazing 4.1% in the second quarter of this year, with much of that growth being fueled by large increases in consumer spending and exports. Why?

Because Obama fixed all the crap Bush *$(%$*&#.

Not to worry, Trump will ($%^$# all those things again... and then you'll be thinking of excuses when we are in Great Recession 2, Electric Bugaloo.

You live in a dream world. If what you say is true, why did we have a NET LOSS of manufacturing jobs under Obama? Why did the U-6 rate remain historically high under Obama? You don't think that letting taxpayers in the second, third, and fourth tax brackets keep between $70 and $400 more of their income each month is the reason for the boost in consumer spending? You don't think that making it less expensive for our businesses to operate and letting them keep more of their profits is behind the growth in jobs and GDP?

Finally, you are apparently unaware that Obama made most of the Bush tax cuts permanent, and that he extended new tax breaks to small businesses, that he protected $700 billion in tax breaks for our companies, and that he lifted the ban on oil exports. These policies were the main reason for the growth that we had during his presidency.

All those employment stats where fake under obama , now they are suddenly real?
 
A very large part of that 4.1% growth was one time purchases by companies stocking up before before tariffs hit. Billions of dollars in soybeans alone.
 
Outpacing all expectations, U.S. GDP grew an amazing 4.1% in the second quarter of this year, with much of that growth being fueled by large increases in consumer spending and exports. Why?

Because Obama fixed all the crap Bush fucked up.

Not to worry, Trump will fuck up all those things again... and then you'll be thinking of excuses when we are in Great Recession 2, Electric Bugaloo.

LOL Liberals are to much. It was Bush's fault from 2009-2016. Now two years into Trump's presidency it's still Obama's economy. You can't make this shit up.
 
Outpacing all expectations, U.S. GDP grew an amazing 4.1% in the second quarter of this year, with much of that growth being fueled by large increases in consumer spending and exports. Why?

Because Obama fixed all the crap Bush fucked up.

Not to worry, Trump will fuck up all those things again... and then you'll be thinking of excuses when we are in Great Recession 2, Electric Bugaloo.

LOL Liberals are to much. It was Bush's fault from 2009-2016. Now two years into Trump's presidency it's still Obama's economy. You can't make this shit up.

Actually, you just did make this shit up....but thanks for playing!
 
Outpacing all expectations, U.S. GDP grew an amazing 4.1% in the second quarter of this year, with much of that growth being fueled by large increases in consumer spending and exports. Why?

Because Obama fixed all the crap Bush *$(%$*&#.

Not to worry, Trump will ($%^$# all those things again... and then you'll be thinking of excuses when we are in Great Recession 2, Electric Bugaloo.

You live in a dream world. If what you say is true, why did we have a NET LOSS of manufacturing jobs under Obama? Why did the U-6 rate remain historically high under Obama? You don't think that letting taxpayers in the second, third, and fourth tax brackets keep between $70 and $400 more of their income each month is the reason for the boost in consumer spending? You don't think that making it less expensive for our businesses to operate and letting them keep more of their profits is behind the growth in jobs and GDP?

Finally, you are apparently unaware that Obama made most of the Bush tax cuts permanent, and that he extended new tax breaks to small businesses, that he protected $700 billion in tax breaks for our companies, and that he lifted the ban on oil exports. These policies were the main reason for the growth that we had during his presidency.

All those employment stats where fake under obama , now they are suddenly real?

Sigh. . . . How long are you guys going to hide behind this argument?

And, uh, conversely, you guys said the unemployment stats were real and indicative of growth under Obama, yet now you act like they're meaningless.
 
Outpacing all expectations, U.S. GDP grew an amazing 4.1% in the second quarter of this year, with much of that growth being fueled by large increases in consumer spending and exports. Why?

Because Obama fixed all the crap Bush fucked up.

Not to worry, Trump will fuck up all those things again... and then you'll be thinking of excuses when we are in Great Recession 2, Electric Bugaloo.

LOL Liberals are to much. It was Bush's fault from 2009-2016. Now two years into Trump's presidency it's still Obama's economy. You can't make this shit up.

Actually, you just did make this shit up....but thanks for playing!

What I didn't make up is the economy is booming and the job market is great almost 2 years into Trump's presidency. It's the economy stupid! Thanks for playing!
 
Outpacing all expectations, U.S. GDP grew an amazing 4.1% in the second quarter of this year, with much of that growth being fueled by large increases in consumer spending and exports. Why? Well, because thanks to the Trump tax cuts, tens of millions of consumers have a lot more money in their pockets, and because Trump's protectionist trade policies have contributed to a large increase in exports (exports jumped by a whopping 9.3% in the second quarter).

Trump's rising-tide economy is lifting all boats, including the least-educated workers who were hit the hardest by the 2008-2010 recession:

It has been two decades since the U.S. enjoyed sustained economic growth above 3 percent, and it turns out that a rising tide really does lift all boats.

The New York Times reports:

"The least educated American workers, who took the hardest hit in the Great Recession, were also among the slowest to harvest the gains of the recovery. Now they are a striking symbol of a strong economy.

"The unemployment rate for those without a high school diploma fell to 5.1 percent in July, the Labor Department reported Friday, the lowest since the government began collecting data on such workers in 1992. At the economy’s nadir in the summer of 2009, the unemployment rate for high school dropouts hit 15.6 percent, more than three times the peak unemployment rate for college graduates.…

"'As economists, we worried these workers would be shut out forever,’ she said. ‘But the long duration of the recovery has pulled them back in. As the economy adds more jobs, employers have had to dig a little deeper. . . .’"

How much of this can President Trump take credit for? Certainly, he has benefited from the economy’s recovery from the financial crisis, which was already complete before he came into office. But under President Obama, the economy “recovered” to relatively slow growth. There is a good case to be made that under Trump, growth has been accelerated by the tax cuts pushed through Congress and his deregulatory efforts. . . . It’s not as good as Reagan’s “morning again in America,” which saw five straight quarters of growth above 7 percent, but it’s better than anything we’ve seen in a long time. (New Economic Growth Shows A Rising Tide Really Does Lift All Boats)​

Another positive sign of strong economic growth is the enormous jump in manufacturing jobs and the fact that most of those new jobs are in durable goods. Since January through July of this year (August's stats won't out for two more weeks), the economy has added 173,000 manufacturing jobs, whereas we actually suffered a net loss in manufacturing jobs during Obama's eight years! The last time the economy added that many manufacturing jobs in a seven-month period was . . . 1984 (Bureau of Labor Statistics Data -- set the date range to 1981 to 2018). So we are seeing truly historic growth in manufacturing jobs.

In defending his massive tax-cut proposal (which, by the way, included a huge tax cut for the rich), JFK stated that "a rising tide lifts all boats." We are seeing that truth verified once again. It's not rocket science: When you let people keep more of their own money, when you make it less expensive for our businesses to operate, and when you let our businesses keep more of their profits, the economy grows and everybody benefits.



And yet the government numbers are not showing a rise in wages....
 
4.1 percent is great

Let’s see if it can carry through
 
Did you miss the part with the worst recession in 80 years starting before he took office.

Yes, and Senator Obama had voted for and supported the very policies that did the most to cause the Great Recession. Did you miss that part?

But, to his credit, once he became president, Obama ignored the far-left wing of his party and extended most of the Bush tax cuts and then made most of them permanent. He also signed other tax cuts, including a cut in the payroll tax and new deductions for small businesses. He also protected some $700 billion in corporate tax breaks and agreed to lift the ban on oil exports. How do you think the economy would have performed if Obama had not followed these conservative policies?

Yes, yes, you did. Who's a good little racist? You are.. you are...

Uh. . . . Huh??? So now people who disagree with you about economics are also racists?! Yeah, ok. Thanks for sharing.
”Yes, and Senator Obama had voted for and supported the very policies that did the most to cause the Great Recession. Did you miss that part?”

I missed that part. Of which policies do you speak?
 

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