Ugh, Our Government Names a Naval Vessel After Gabrielle Giffords

[billyerock1991]

Hey I have an idea. Lets name a ship after the woman who survived a shooting and is using her new found political poker chip to push a liberal agenda, and then, just forget about all those who died that day?

No, I'm not kidding. They really are naming a ship after Gabrielle Giffords. Can you think of anyone more deserving? Oh, I can think of a few hundred thousand, but let's not get bogged down with all those silly people who fought and died for their country in acts of heroism. Certainly a woman who has no more merit than any other government official other than the fact that she was shot deserves it more.

Former military brass ?shocked,? ?angered? over USS Gabrielle Giffords | The Daily Caller

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Gabrielle_Giffords_(LCS-10)

Do you think Mrs. Giffords will be upset when they put a gun on the boat?

thats the ship that the send way to gabby republicans on ... the uss giffy for gabb

 

[bodecea]

when I think they can't go any lower, they do

Explain how this is "low".

 

[bodecea]

I can think of about this many people who showed more fortitude and deserve it more.

There will always be someone who deserves it more. There's no point in dwelling on that, it's not precedent to only pick war veterans.

Yeah, there’s no point on dwelling on the name of a naval vessel. Except that every man on that ship is going to be the laughing stock of the Navy. That’ll motivate the hell out of em. Give em someone to look up to and be proud of. Why don't they just start naming ships after muppets and get it over with already? Yes, the "USS Kermit the Frog." That strike fear in the hearts of our enemies!

No they will not....nor will the WOMEN on that ship.

 

[bodecea]

There will always be someone who deserves it more. There's no point in dwelling on that, it's not precedent to only pick war veterans.

Yeah, there’s no point on dwelling on the name of a naval vessel. Except that every man on that ship is going to be the laughing stock of the Navy. That’ll motivate the hell out of em. Give em someone to look up to and be proud of. Why don't they just start naming ships after muppets and get it over with already? Yes, the "USS Kermit the Frog." That strike fear in the hearts of our enemies!

I dont think they're typically as insecure as you apparently are.

Do you think all of the other Men on all of the other ships named after women who were not War Vets get giggled and snorted at to the point of our Enemies just walking up to them and poking them in their chests, or something?

It's like you actually think the real world behaves like a middle school locker room or something.

Notice he said "the MEN on that ship" as if he wants to deny that WOMEN serve on Navy ships now.

 

[bodecea]

Yeah, there’s no point on dwelling on the name of a naval vessel. Except that every man on that ship is going to be the laughing stock of the Navy. That’ll motivate the hell out of em. Give em someone to look up to and be proud of. Why don't they just start naming ships after muppets and get it over with already? Yes, the "USS Kermit the Frog." That strike fear in the hearts of our enemies!

I dont think they're typically as insecure as you apparently are.

Do you think all of the other Men on all of the other ships named after women who were not War Vets get giggled and snorted at to the point of our Enemies just walking up to them and poking them in their chests, or something?

It's like you actually think the real world behaves like a middle school locker room or something.

Obviously someone can’t tell sarcasm from a serious argument, however, ships are named to motivate their crew. There’s no point in defending it. Just say it was a boneheaded move and go on. And in the real world the laws of machiavelli reins supreme. In any case, so much for that self-fulfilling prophesy effect.

No they are not.

 

[bodecea]

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Yes, it matches precedent. It was named just like every other vessel in the world. This one was a horrible choice. Is there a precedent for horrible ship names? Sure there are. Is there a precedent for good ship names? Absolutely! However, that doesn’t change the fact that there are both good and bad ship names. Thus, it can be boneheaded. There is certainly a precedent for boneheaded but that doesn’t make it any less boneheaded. The above reply is hereby cut down by simple logic.

Again, you have yet to demonstrate why it was boneheaded. Other than you don't like the woman.

We have aircraft carriers named after Reagan, Bush and Jerry freakin' Ford.

Another carrier, the John C. Stennis, was named after a Senator who supported segregation.

So again, the problem here is your irrational hatred for Ms. Giffords, who had the audacity to survive after being shot by a crazy person and actually pointing out it's too easy for crazy people to get guns.

This seems to be a BIG problem for them.

 

[rightwinger]

Gabby Giffords is an inspiring Congresswoman who took a bullet for her country

She deserves the accolade

 

[Katzndogz]

So maybe we need to name a bunch of ships after Gun-toting whacks to make the right wing happy.

USS Jared Loughner
USS Joker Holmes
USS Adam Lanza

Of course, we couldn't build the ships fast enough to keep up with the names...

holmes and lanza were libs

Libs will have the USS Juan Corona before they are done.

Gabrielle Giffords showed absolutely no more personal courage than any other victim of gun violence. Hooray that she survived, but she did nothing more to survive than any other victim of violence. If victimization were the criteria we'd have had the USS Brian Stowe by now.

 

[Publius1787]

I dont think they're typically as insecure as you apparently are.

Do you think all of the other Men on all of the other ships named after women who were not War Vets get giggled and snorted at to the point of our Enemies just walking up to them and poking them in their chests, or something?

It's like you actually think the real world behaves like a middle school locker room or something.

Obviously someone can’t tell sarcasm from a serious argument, however, ships are named to motivate their crew. There’s no point in defending it. Just say it was a boneheaded move and go on. And in the real world the laws of machiavelli reins supreme. In any case, so much for that self-fulfilling prophesy effect.

No they are not.

Not motivation huh?

Marine Maj. Gen. Tom Wilkerson: “Why do we name a ship?” Wilkerson rhetorically asked. “In large part it is to inspire those who will serve over time in ships company and to make them feel that they are serving in a part of American history that has direct positive impact and inspires them to do their best.”

Read more: Former military brass ?shocked,? ?angered? over USS Gabrielle Giffords | The Daily Caller


I will take his word over yours any day of the week.

 

[Publius1787]

Yeah, there’s no point on dwelling on the name of a naval vessel. Except that every man on that ship is going to be the laughing stock of the Navy. That’ll motivate the hell out of em. Give em someone to look up to and be proud of. Why don't they just start naming ships after muppets and get it over with already? Yes, the "USS Kermit the Frog." That strike fear in the hearts of our enemies!

I dont think they're typically as insecure as you apparently are.

Do you think all of the other Men on all of the other ships named after women who were not War Vets get giggled and snorted at to the point of our Enemies just walking up to them and poking them in their chests, or something?

It's like you actually think the real world behaves like a middle school locker room or something.

Notice he said "the MEN on that ship" as if he wants to deny that WOMEN serve on Navy ships now.

"man" is the dominant in the English Language. Thats why we use terms like the "dawn of man," "all men are created equal," etc. The word "man" or "men" can be used irrespective of sex.

 

[bodecea]

Uss sara palin.

Will it sink halfway across the ocean?

 

[bodecea]

Not motovation huh?

Obviously someone can’t tell sarcasm from a serious argument, however, ships are named to motivate their crew. There’s no point in defending it. Just say it was a boneheaded move and go on. And in the real world the laws of machiavelli reins supreme. In any case, so much for that self-fulfilling prophesy effect.

No they are not.

“Why do we name a ship?” Wilkerson rhetorically asked. “In large part it is to inspire those who will serve over time in ships company and to make them feel that they are serving in a part of American history that has direct positive impact and inspires them to do their best.”

Read more: Former military brass ?shocked,? ?angered? over USS Gabrielle Giffords | The Daily Caller

Ships honor past ships, cities, POLITICIANS, heros, places besides cities, battles, and honorable adjectives.

 

[Publius1787]

No they are not.

“Why do we name a ship?” Wilkerson rhetorically asked. “In large part it is to inspire those who will serve over time in ships company and to make them feel that they are serving in a part of American history that has direct positive impact and inspires them to do their best.”

Read more: Former military brass ?shocked,? ?angered? over USS Gabrielle Giffords | The Daily Caller

Ships honor past ships, cities, POLITICIANS, heros, places besides cities, battles, and honorable adjectives.

Fine, but thats only the half of it. If you want to disagree with Marine Maj. Gen. Tom Wilkerson then fine, disagree with him. However, we all know the facts as stated by Wilkerson are more valid than your panty wadded opinion any day of the week.

 

[rightwinger]

“Why do we name a ship?” Wilkerson rhetorically asked. “In large part it is to inspire those who will serve over time in ships company and to make them feel that they are serving in a part of American history that has direct positive impact and inspires them to do their best.”

Read more: Former military brass ?shocked,? ?angered? over USS Gabrielle Giffords | The Daily Caller

Ships honor past ships, cities, POLITICIANS, heros, places besides cities, battles, and honorable adjectives.

Fine, but thats only the half of it. If you want to disagree with Marine Maj. Gen. Tom Wilkerson then fine, disagree with him. However, we all know the facts as stated by Wilkerson are more valid than your panty wadded opinion any day of the week.

I still don't see what is uninspiring about Gabby Giffords

 

[bodecea]

“Why do we name a ship?” Wilkerson rhetorically asked. “In large part it is to inspire those who will serve over time in ships company and to make them feel that they are serving in a part of American history that has direct positive impact and inspires them to do their best.”

Read more: Former military brass ?shocked,? ?angered? over USS Gabrielle Giffords | The Daily Caller

Ships honor past ships, cities, POLITICIANS, heros, places besides cities, battles, and honorable adjectives.

Fine, but thats only the half of it. If you want to disagree with Marine Maj. Gen. Tom Wilkerson then fine, disagree with him. However, we all know the facts as stated by Wilkerson are more valid than your panty wadded opinion any day of the week.

He's not even Navy. I am retired Navy

How about these ships....
USS Constellation
USS Norton Sound
USS Carl Vinson
USS City of Corpus Christi

Show us the inspiration in those names.

How about this one...

USS Forrestal...aka the USS Forest Fire...aka the USS Zippo

 

[bodecea]

Ships honor past ships, cities, POLITICIANS, heros, places besides cities, battles, and honorable adjectives.

Fine, but thats only the half of it. If you want to disagree with Marine Maj. Gen. Tom Wilkerson then fine, disagree with him. However, we all know the facts as stated by Wilkerson are more valid than your panty wadded opinion any day of the week.

I still don't see what is uninspiring about Gabby Giffords

Two things. The D behind her name and that her prediction came true.