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Another Putinsucker, obviously. It is the first town the Russians managed to seize since July. Before that, they lost one region and a bridgehead on the Dnieper west bank. But you can celebrate for now, of course.Ukraine is already losing.......Media is full of it.
Iran and NK have already been more than willing to help out. Putin has loads of petro dollars. Ukraine will not last.
Like Tucker said "A lot of people are getting very rich here"....and not just the Uke oligarchs
Screw Putin. Uke gonna lose, no way around it.Another Putinsucker, obviously. It is the first town the Russians managed to seize since July. Before that, they lost one region and a bridgehead on the Dnieper west bank. But you can celebrate for now, of course.
Depends on what you consider a win or lose for it.Screw Putin. Uke gonna lose, no way around it.
I believe you are right... No way for it to go all the way. If it does, nuclear war is inevitable..Screw Putin. Uke gonna lose, no way around it.
I guess we need need to send Ukraine another $100 billion eh? What a shit show good Lord.
Must you always post establishment cliches?Is this thread supposed to be a playground for Putinsuckers in their rejoicing?
Sending the Ukrainians more weapons is just delaying their inevitable defeat plus more Ukraine people killed for no reason.I don't agree with sending them money, I agree with sending them arms.
Sending the Ukrainians more weapons is just delaying their inevitable defeat plus more Ukraine people killed for no reason.
Meh.....the object here is to do as much damage to Putin and his army to send a message to China/Taiwan.What a bunch of ignorant crap from our Putin lovers, who now go out of their way to praise the mercenary Wagner Group of criminals above the Russian Army. Tomorrow who will they praise? The salt mines have little value except as a hiding place from artillery and accurate missile strikes.
This horrible war, launched by Putin, who arrogantly and disastrously overestimated his own military’s strength and underestimated the Ukrainians willingness to fight in defense of their independence, may indeed go on for a long while. The West will not stop aiding Ukraine anytime soon, and Russia will suffer and bleed almost as much as Ukraine if the war continues.
A bloody Russian “victory” is in nobody’s interests, except maybe Putin’s and his security apparatus. But Russia probably will only doom itself by digging in and continuing or expanding this war.
How could it now — after antagonizing even most native Russian-speaking Ukrainians — ever occupy all of Ukraine? At best it may be able to freeze borders along more or less the 2014 lines, or keep present lines and hold on to Crimea — which falls into a separate category. Before February 24, 2022 Crimea was more solidly and stably “Russian,” and more unlikely ever to be “taken back” by Ukraine, than it is now, when Russians are selling their vacation homes there and the economy is cratering.
The Russian state may even collapse altogether and break into pieces under the pressure. I do not predict this or even favor it, but it is possible. Putin may or may not be ousted in the next period. But if nothing changes Russia will just become more and more backward, a mafia-fascist petro state everyone avoids.
I keep hearing people repeat that nonsense over and over.Putin was supposed to be in Kiev in 2 weeks.
Zelensky was a clever entertainer, especially covering political subjects before he was elected, and he is a savvy and powerful representative of “Ukrainian nationalism.” He must keep his fragile coalition together under terrible wartime conditions, and keep Ukrainian army support. He showed courage in not leaving Kiev at the key moment of crisis. He is obviously no “Nazi.” He is not a puppet of the U.S. or NATO — though he certainly needs Western support to fight off Russia. The Ukrainians will certainly continue suffering, but their state & nationalist ideology & culture — with all its problems — will survive.Meh.....the object here is to do as much damage to Putin and his army to send a message to China/Taiwan.
Zelensky is only doing stand up.....he is being used.
I keep hearing people repeat that nonsense over and over.
But the truth is, neither Putin, or any government official, or Russian army general, ever said how many days / weeks it would take to invade and occupy Kiev.
Same, same. The US can’t send them money. The US is effectively bankrupt, and has been for a long time. We can go farther into debt, borrowing to pay The MIC to provide Munitions. Or we can go farther in debt by printing even more money. But let’s be clear, either way we aren’t giving them money; we’re giving our children, and grandchildren even more debt…I don't agree with sending them money, I agree with sending them arms.
You do realize that Putin allegedly made that statement back in August 2014 according to your article? (9 years ago)Wrong. Yes he did.
You do realize that Putin allegedly made that statement back in August 2014 according to your article? (9 years ago)
” Putin reportedly said. “But if I wanted to, I could take Kiev in two weeks."
If Putin did say that, he was correct. Because Nato back then hadn't started flooding Ukraine with large shipments of weapons.
But back then Putin had no intention of invading Ukraine.
Because he mistakenly thought Ukraine would honor the Minsk Agreement they had signed with Russia in 2014
This forum not only is crawling with Russian trolls, it also has many American conservatives who are huge fans of Putin. Authoritarian worship is much the same, just substitute Putin for Trump.Is this thread supposed to be a playground for Putinsuckers in their rejoicing?
IncorrectWe didn't even really start supplying Ukraine until a month into the war
Ahhh to hell with your lie's and bull shite devil.. No one gives a rats ace about Putin, but you and your ilk gotta create and run with your constant lying narratives (Biden lover). It's not going to make the situation any better, but you go ahead and have your tantrum leftist, because no one gives a rats ace about that either.What a bunch of ignorant crap from our Putin lovers, who now go out of their way to praise the mercenary Wagner Group of criminals above the Russian Army. Tomorrow who will they praise? The salt mines have little value except as a hiding place from artillery and accurate missile strikes.
This horrible war, launched by Putin, who arrogantly and disastrously overestimated his own military’s strength and underestimated the Ukrainians willingness to fight in defense of their independence, may indeed go on for a long while. The West will not stop aiding Ukraine anytime soon, and Russia will suffer and bleed almost as much as Ukraine if the war continues.
A bloody Russian “victory” is in nobody’s interests, except maybe Putin’s and his security apparatus. But Russia probably will only doom itself by digging in and continuing or expanding this war.
How could it now — after antagonizing even most native Russian-speaking Ukrainians — ever occupy all of Ukraine? At best it may be able to freeze borders along more or less the 2014 lines, or keep present lines and hold on to Crimea — which falls into a separate category. Before February 24, 2022 Crimea was more solidly and stably “Russian,” and more unlikely ever to be “taken back” by Ukraine, than it is now, when Russians are selling their vacation homes there and the economy is cratering.
The Russian state may even collapse altogether and break into pieces under the pressure. I do not predict this or even favor it, but it is possible. Putin may or may not be ousted in the next period. But if nothing changes Russia will just become more and more backward, a mafia-fascist petro state everyone avoids.
