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US Energy Production Hits All-Time High
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Thinking humans (excepting democrats), understood that EV mandates and ending production of gasoline powered cars in the next 10 years was never going to happen.They're following Trump's business model.
EV is going away. Hybrids are the thing now.
Nope. When we fix the economy, then we get a surplus. Unfortunately Bush and Trump handed Obama and Biden messes.The Democrat platform is endless spending, higher taxes, more debt and more illegals. The fun never stops until interest payments on the debt cause a default.
Higher taxes on the rich, yes. Lower on middle class.
Both parties double the debt so that's a wash. I like what Democrats spend on. Infrastructure.
More immigrants? We need them.
The interest payments on the debt will cause a default when the bankers and corporations and Republicans decide to do it. I think in 10 years when social security goes bankrupt, that will be the day they do it. But it'll be fabricated.
If I'm wrong, please tell me when the interest rates on the debt will put us into default? There must be a number. There is not. So it will happen when the billionaires and corporations decide it should happen. Like the Great Recession right as Bush is leaving office. That was a bank robbery and you know it. The bankers held us up and we paid the ransom.
Democrats won't fix the economy by spending $trillions of dollars and building eight EV charging stations or giving free medicaid to millions of illegals. ,"tax the rich" is a slogan used by democrats but it's pointless. More taxes and more spending on green Boondoggles solves nothing.Nope. When we fix the economy, then we get a surplus. Unfortunately Bush and Trump handed Obama and Biden messes.
Higher taxes on the rich, yes. Lower on middle class.
Both parties double the debt so that's a wash. I like what Democrats spend on. Infrastructure.
More immigrants? We need them.
The interest payments on the debt will cause a default when the bankers and corporations and Republicans decide to do it. I think in 10 years when social security goes bankrupt, that will be the day they do it. But it'll be fabricated.
If I'm wrong, please tell me when the interest rates on the debt will put us into default? There must be a number. There is not. So it will happen when the billionaires and corporations decide it should happen. Like the Great Recession right as Bush is leaving office. That was a bank robbery and you know it. The bankers held us up and we paid the ransom.
Harris has stated she wants healthcare for all, including illegals. Who pays for that?
Democrats won't fix the economy by spending $trillions of dollars and building eight EV charging stations or giving free medicaid to millions of illegals. ,"tax the rich" is a slogan used by democrats but it's pointless. More taxes and more spending on green Boondoggles solves nothing.
Harris has stated she wants healthcare for all, including illegals. Who pays for that?
Make the illegals legal and tax them too. Not just the rich.
Fact is, we can't fix America without taxes. And your days of cutting taxes for the rich are over. They already pay too low
EV makers Fisker, Lordstown Motors, Proterra, and Electric Last Mile Solutionswent bankrupt.They're following Trump's business model.
EV is going away. Hybrids are the thing now.
- Fisker
The California-based startup filed for bankruptcy in June 2024 after losing money on its Ocean SUV line in the US and Canada. The company is seeking to sell its assets and restructure its debt while negotiating with financial stakeholders. Some say the company's setbacks were due to software and design issues, and a video review by YouTuber Marques Brownlee that caused Fisker's stock to drop.https://www.foxbusiness.com/fox-news-auto/ev-maker-files-bankruptcy-after-hemorrhaging-cash#:~:text=Coast to Coast.-,',from the COVID-19 pandemic. - Lordstown Motors
Filed for bankruptcy along with other EV makers, and a fleet maintenance firm agreed to service its remaining customers.https://www.wired.com/story/fisker-went-bankrupt-what-do-its-ev-owners-do-next/#:~:text=A handful of other electric,will continue to manufacture vehicles. - Proterra
Filed for bankruptcy along with other EV makers, and has faced fundraising hurdles and operational challenges.https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ev-startup-fisker-files-bankruptcy-2024-06-18/#:~:text=The hyper-competitive EV market has seen several,operational challenges from global supply chain issues.&text=The collapse of its talks with the,Reuters had reported to be Nissan (7201. - Electric Last Mile Solutions
Filed for bankruptcy along with other EV makers, and has faced fundraising hurdles and operational challenges. - Charge Enterprises
An EV charging station installer that filed for Chapter 11 protection in March 2024.https://news.bloomberglaw.com/bankruptcy-law/troubled-electric-vehicle-maker-fisker-files-for-bankruptcy#:~:text=Fisker's bankruptcy comes as EV,and Electric Last Mile Solutions . - HiPhi
A luxury EV maker based in China that filed for bankruptcy on August 9, 2024. Its parent company, Human Horizons, is also entering a pre-reorganization phase after filing for bankruptcy.https://www.batterytechonline.com/automotive-mobility/7-battery-ev-companies-that-have-filed-for-bankruptcy#:~:text=Despite significant investment and potential,the battery and EV industries.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/18/fisker-ev-maker-bankruptcy.html#:~:text=It's the latest in a,targets and broader industry headwinds.
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Nonsense.They're following Trump's business model.
EV is going away. Hybrids are the thing now.
Make the illegals legal and tax them too. Not just the rich.
Fact is, we can't fix America without taxes. And your days of cutting taxes for the rich are over. They already pay too low.
"More taxes" is a slogan used by democrats because they can't be responsible with money. Tax and spend is not a solution.
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Importing millions of illegals was designed to generate a voter Base for Democrats. Millions of low-no skilled third worlders who soak up welfare are not a tax base.Make the illegals legal and tax them too. Not just the rich.
Fact is, we can't fix America without taxes. And your days of cutting taxes for the rich are over. They already pay too low
Nope. When we fix the economy, then we get a surplus. Unfortunately Bush and Trump handed Obama and Biden messes.
Higher taxes on the rich, yes. Lower on middle class.
Both parties double the debt so that's a wash. I like what Democrats spend on. Infrastructure.
More immigrants? We need them.
The interest payments on the debt will cause a default when the bankers and corporations and Republicans decide to do it. I think in 10 years when social security goes bankrupt, that will be the day they do it. But it'll be fabricated.
If I'm wrong, please tell me when the interest rates on the debt will put us into default? There must be a number. There is not. So it will happen when the billionaires and corporations decide it should happen. Like the Great Recession right as Bush is leaving office. That was a bank robbery and you know it. The bankers held us up and we paid the ransom.
Why do you think oil production was so low during the Bush administration?
Until the election, then back to banning oil. Same old playbook by the left.
During President George W. Bush’s last year in office, U.S. oil production was 5.0 million BPD. By the end of President Obama’s first term, that had climbed to more than 7 million BPD.
By the third year of Obama’s second term, U.S. oil production had nearly doubled to 9.7 million BPD.
During President George W. Bush’s last year in office, U.S. oil production was 5.0 million BPD. By the end of President Obama’s first term, that had climbed to more than 7 million BPD.
By the third year of Obama’s second term, U.S. oil production had nearly doubled to 9.7 million BPD.
And yet they still tried to strangle production and penalize people for using gasoline.
You see the population keeps growing so production goes up, but not enough to keep it cheap when Dems are running things.
Biden and Kamala want to ban fracking, they want to force everyone to drive EVs. They want to penalize people for driving gasoline vehicles. That’s a fact.
EV makers Fisker, Lordstown Motors, Proterra, and Electric Last Mile Solutionswent bankrupt.
Other EV makers, such as Nikola and Faraday Future, remain in business but are trading for less than $1 per share due to operational challenges, missed targets, and broader industry headwinds.
- Fisker
The California-based startup filed for bankruptcy in June 2024 after losing money on its Ocean SUV line in the US and Canada. The company is seeking to sell its assets and restructure its debt while negotiating with financial stakeholders. Some say the company's setbacks were due to software and design issues, and a video review by YouTuber Marques Brownlee that caused Fisker's stock to drop.https://www.foxbusiness.com/fox-news-auto/ev-maker-files-bankruptcy-after-hemorrhaging-cash#:~:text=Coast to Coast.-,',from the COVID-19 pandemic.- Lordstown Motors
Filed for bankruptcy along with other EV makers, and a fleet maintenance firm agreed to service its remaining customers.https://www.wired.com/story/fisker-went-bankrupt-what-do-its-ev-owners-do-next/#:~:text=A handful of other electric,will continue to manufacture vehicles.- Proterra
Filed for bankruptcy along with other EV makers, and has faced fundraising hurdles and operational challenges.https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ev-startup-fisker-files-bankruptcy-2024-06-18/#:~:text=The hyper-competitive EV market has seen several,operational challenges from global supply chain issues.&text=The collapse of its talks with the,Reuters had reported to be Nissan (7201.- Electric Last Mile Solutions
Filed for bankruptcy along with other EV makers, and has faced fundraising hurdles and operational challenges.- Charge Enterprises
An EV charging station installer that filed for Chapter 11 protection in March 2024.https://news.bloomberglaw.com/bankruptcy-law/troubled-electric-vehicle-maker-fisker-files-for-bankruptcy#:~:text=Fisker's bankruptcy comes as EV,and Electric Last Mile Solutions .- HiPhi
A luxury EV maker based in China that filed for bankruptcy on August 9, 2024. Its parent company, Human Horizons, is also entering a pre-reorganization phase after filing for bankruptcy.https://www.batterytechonline.com/automotive-mobility/7-battery-ev-companies-that-have-filed-for-bankruptcy#:~:text=Despite significant investment and potential,the battery and EV industries.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/18/fisker-ev-maker-bankruptcy.html#:~:text=It's the latest in a,targets and broader industry headwinds.
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Jun 30, 2024 — A handful of other electric vehicle makers, including Lordstown Motors, Arrival, and Volta Trucks, have also filed for bankruptcy amid a more-challe...
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Fisker Files for Bankruptcy as EV Start-Up's Cash Runs Short
Jun 18, 2024 — That's because the company appears to be entering bankruptcy while still searching for a buyer for its assets and negotiating with financial stakeho...
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EV startup Fisker files for bankruptcy, aims to sell assets - Reuters
Jun 18, 2024 — The hyper-competitive EV market has seen several companies, including Proterra, Lordstown and Electric Last Mile Solutions, file for bankruptcy in t...
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Jun 18, 2024 — Fisker's bankruptcy comes as EV makers struggle to adapt to slowing sales in the US and across much of Europe. Researcher BloombergNEF last week par...
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Jun 18, 2024 — The US Chapter 11 process applies to the company's operating subsidiary, giving it protection from creditors while it tries to negotiate further.
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Nonsense.
"More taxes" is a slogan used by democrats because they can't be responsible with money. Tax and spend is not a solution.
Some examples of defunct car companies include Pontiac, Plymouth, Oldsmobile, and Mercury, as well as AC Propulsion (1997–2003), Apex Motor Car Company (1920–1922), and Acme Motor Car Company (1903–1911).
None of those examples were a function of government mandates.Some examples of defunct car companies include Pontiac, Plymouth, Oldsmobile, and Mercury, as well as AC Propulsion (1997–2003), Apex Motor Car Company (1920–1922), and Acme Motor Car Company (1903–1911).
And yet they still tried to strangle production and penalize people for using gasoline.
You see the population keeps growing so production goes up, but not enough to keep it cheap when Dems are running things.
Biden and Kamala want to ban fracking, they want to force everyone to drive EVs. They want to penalize people for driving gasoline vehicles. That’s a fact.
Cheap gasoline is history. Gas hasn't caught up with housing, healthcare, education etc .
Fracking may not be a good idea as a standard practice. After all most US wells produce fewer than 50 barrels a day.
None of those examples were a function of government mandates.
Do you know the government invented the internet? Corporations didn't see the money in it. Plus companies hate spending on R&D. But boy did they take it over huh? Amazon baby!!!! Twitter!!! Facebook. They should pay taxes.
Government mandates EV and Hybrids because gas is bad. So is coal. Wake up.
Energy production is at an all time high. What more do you want Biden/Kamala to do?
It's like you guys are looking for something to complain about and your issues are pathetic.
Inflation/Prices is number one issue. But 11% say immigration is. Those are all Republicans.
3. Healthcare. I agree. Important issue.
4. Jobs/Economy
5. ABORTION. Boy is Trump fucked
6. Climate/Environment (another one for my side)
7. Civil Rights (another one for us)
9. Taxes and government spending only 4% are worried about that
Most important voter issues U.S. 2024 | Statista
A survey conducted in October 2024 found that the most important issue for 24 percent of Americans was inflation and prices.
www.statista.com
Trump says 'drill, baby, drill,' but the record for US oil production isn't his
During Biden's tenure, the United States has continued to produce and export the most crude oil out of any country, at any time.
abcnews.go.com
However, during Biden's tenure, the United States has continued to produce and export the most crude oil out of any country, at any time, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.
Crude oil production averaged 12.9 million barrels per day in 2023, breaking the previous U.S. and global record of 12.3 million, set in 2019, according to the agency.
Throughout his bid for reelection, Trump has been vocal about his plans to double down on reliance on fossil fuels and reverse federal climate action.
EV makers Fisker, Lordstown Motors, Proterra, and Electric Last Mile Solutionswent bankrupt.
Other EV makers, such as Nikola and Faraday Future, remain in business but are trading for less than $1 per share due to operational challenges, missed targets, and broader industry headwinds.
- Fisker
The California-based startup filed for bankruptcy in June 2024 after losing money on its Ocean SUV line in the US and Canada. The company is seeking to sell its assets and restructure its debt while negotiating with financial stakeholders. Some say the company's setbacks were due to software and design issues, and a video review by YouTuber Marques Brownlee that caused Fisker's stock to drop.https://www.foxbusiness.com/fox-news-auto/ev-maker-files-bankruptcy-after-hemorrhaging-cash#:~:text=Coast to Coast.-,',from the COVID-19 pandemic.- Lordstown Motors
Filed for bankruptcy along with other EV makers, and a fleet maintenance firm agreed to service its remaining customers.https://www.wired.com/story/fisker-went-bankrupt-what-do-its-ev-owners-do-next/#:~:text=A handful of other electric,will continue to manufacture vehicles.- Proterra
Filed for bankruptcy along with other EV makers, and has faced fundraising hurdles and operational challenges.https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/ev-startup-fisker-files-bankruptcy-2024-06-18/#:~:text=The hyper-competitive EV market has seen several,operational challenges from global supply chain issues.&text=The collapse of its talks with the,Reuters had reported to be Nissan (7201.- Electric Last Mile Solutions
Filed for bankruptcy along with other EV makers, and has faced fundraising hurdles and operational challenges.- Charge Enterprises
An EV charging station installer that filed for Chapter 11 protection in March 2024.https://news.bloomberglaw.com/bankruptcy-law/troubled-electric-vehicle-maker-fisker-files-for-bankruptcy#:~:text=Fisker's bankruptcy comes as EV,and Electric Last Mile Solutions .- HiPhi
A luxury EV maker based in China that filed for bankruptcy on August 9, 2024. Its parent company, Human Horizons, is also entering a pre-reorganization phase after filing for bankruptcy.https://www.batterytechonline.com/automotive-mobility/7-battery-ev-companies-that-have-filed-for-bankruptcy#:~:text=Despite significant investment and potential,the battery and EV industries.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/18/fisker-ev-maker-bankruptcy.html#:~:text=It's the latest in a,targets and broader industry headwinds.
Battery Technology
7 Battery & EV Companies That Have Filed for Bankruptcy
Despite significant investment and potential, these companies had high hopes—but eventually filed for bankruptcy. Jake Hertz. August 20, 2024. 7 Slides. START S...
CNBC
Fisker files for bankruptcy protection in wave of EV startups ... - CNBC
Jun 18, 2024 — It's the latest in a series of EV companies to collapse. Other companies backed by special purpose acquisition companies, or SPAC, have also filed f...
CNN
Electric SUV maker Fisker files for bankruptcy | CNN Business
Jun 18, 2024 — The Ocean was also the subject of a review that month by American YouTuber Marques Brownlee titled, “This is the Worst Car I've Ever Reviewed.” “Do ...
Fortune
China’s EV makers are having more trouble paying their bills and ...
May 19, 2024 — China's EV makers are having more trouble paying their bills and now take 2 to 3 times longer than Tesla does | Fortune.
WIRED
Fisker Went Bankrupt. What Do Its EV Owners Do Next? - WIRED
Jun 30, 2024 — A handful of other electric vehicle makers, including Lordstown Motors, Arrival, and Volta Trucks, have also filed for bankruptcy amid a more-challe...
The New York Times
Fisker Files for Bankruptcy as EV Start-Up's Cash Runs Short
Jun 18, 2024 — That's because the company appears to be entering bankruptcy while still searching for a buyer for its assets and negotiating with financial stakeho...
Reuters
EV startup Fisker files for bankruptcy, aims to sell assets - Reuters
Jun 18, 2024 — The hyper-competitive EV market has seen several companies, including Proterra, Lordstown and Electric Last Mile Solutions, file for bankruptcy in t...
Fox Business
EV maker files for bankruptcy after hemorrhaging cash | Fox Business
Jun 18, 2024 — ' Henrik Fisker is out of gas, again. The automotive designer's California-based electric vehicle startup, Fisker, filed for bankruptcy protection l...
Bloomberg Law News
EV Maker Fisker Files for Bankruptcy After Glitchy SUV Flops (1)
Jun 18, 2024 — Fisker's bankruptcy comes as EV makers struggle to adapt to slowing sales in the US and across much of Europe. Researcher BloombergNEF last week par...
The Guardian
Electric carmaker Fisker files for US bankruptcy protection
Jun 18, 2024 — The US Chapter 11 process applies to the company's operating subsidiary, giving it protection from creditors while it tries to negotiate further.
Electric carmaker Fisker files for US bankruptcy protection
Generative AI is experimental. Learn more…Opens in new tab
Nonsense.
"More taxes" is a slogan used by democrats because they can't be responsible with money. Tax and spend is not a solution.
Democrats always do better with money than Republicans. Always.
leftwinger
Diamond Member
None of those examples were a function of government mandates.
And they were model lines in many cases. Ford still makes cars and trucks but stopped Mercury cars. Sillybozo is mostly an old blue collar union ignoramus but also a lying DemComee loon.
Nonsense. The green new Boondoggle is an obvious refutation to your nonsense claim.Democrats always do better with money than Republicans. Always.
leftwinger
Diamond Member
Trump says 'drill, baby, drill,' but the record for US oil production isn't his
During Biden's tenure, the United States has continued to produce and export the most crude oil out of any country, at any time.
However, during Biden's tenure, the United States has continued to produce and export the most crude oil out of any country, at any time, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration.
Crude oil production averaged 12.9 million barrels per day in 2023, breaking the previous U.S. and global record of 12.3 million, set in 2019, according to the agency.
Throughout his bid for reelection, Trump has been vocal about his plans to double down on reliance on fossil fuels and reverse federal climate action.
Look at the last three words in this brainwashed clowns post. “federal climate action”. Holy Toledo. Where to begin? I don’t have the strength on a tablet.
The Democrat platform is endless spending, higher taxes, more debt and more illegals. The fun never stops until interest payments on the debt cause a default.
Only 4% say taxes and government spending is their top issue.
Most important voter issues U.S. 2024 | Statista
A survey conducted in October 2024 found that the most important issue for 24 percent of Americans was inflation and prices.
www.statista.com
11% say immigration is their # 1 concern. All Republicans being riled up about this because the economy is going well.
The biggest issue is inflation and prices. I will use two Republicans words against you
Ron DeSantis and Chris Christie Call Out Trump for Adding to Federal Debt
"He owes it to you to defend his record where they added $7.8 trillion to the debt that set the stage for the inflation that we have."
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