US Troops in serious peril now..Terry Jones burns Koran

true words spoken bro... the western world has reached an impasse. they cannot move forward, they cannot move backward, and they do not have enough sense to get out of the way...

my brother, islam has a resilience that the western world cannot fathom... it will be interesting to the the coming caliphate that will spread from the east to the west.... and, they do believe they have the right and divine destiny to imprison and destroy الكفار، الكفار، الكفر the infidels, kuffār, and unbelievers... if only the west had such self preservation and dominating force.... my brother, it will be a struggle between good and evil..

Qur'an 005.051

YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.
PICKTHAL: O ye who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.
SHAKIR: O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.

51 يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ لاَ تَتَّخِذُواْ الْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصَارَى أَوْلِيَاء بَعْضُهُمْ أَوْلِيَاء بَعْضٍ وَمَن يَتَوَلَّهُم مِّنكُمْ فَإِنَّهُ مِنْهُمْ إِنَّ اللّهَ لاَ يَهْدِي الْقَوْمَ الظَّالِمِينَ
You can have Earth as far as I am concerned, its set to destroy itself. :tongue:

Mars is a bit warmer and more sane, there are no governments or corporations there to dictate my life and control me. :lol:

PS: I am not sure what is worse, your Islamic world, Socialism or Corporatism.

I'm not sure, but I don't think he's defending Islim or the muslim world.
I am not defending Islam or the muslim world... the good brother must not have read in my post, "if only the west had such self preservation and dominating force.... my brother, it will be a struggle between good and evil.. " thanks...
 
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Qur'an 005.051

YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

51 يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ لاَ تَتَّخِذُواْ الْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصَارَى أَوْلِيَاء بَعْضُهُمْ أَوْلِيَاء بَعْضٍ وَمَن يَتَوَلَّهُم مِّنكُمْ فَإِنَّهُ مِنْهُمْ إِنَّ اللّهَ لاَ يَهْدِي الْقَوْمَ الظَّالِمِينَ

This verse in the Quran was handed down over a thousand years ago.

And is as true today as it was back then.

The Jews and Christians will always team up against the Muslims.

Muslims who take then as friends during a time of conflict are only deluding themselves.

Because the Jews and Christian see Islam as an enemy not a friend. :evil:N
pn the other side of the coin, fundemental islam seeks to dominate the world and force submission under the hand of their allah....
 
Umm.

It has to happen in the same city and at the same time. If it does not it is not inciting to riot. Even if it had been totally domestic, and we further assume it happened in the exact same city, it does not count because it happened 10 fucking days later. If the cops run him into jail for it they will be facing a lawsuit for false arrest and abuse of power, which they will loose.

No shit sherlock....which is why I initially stated that since Jones bullhorned here in the USA, and the thugs murdered folk half way around the world, Jones is guilty of NOTHING other than being an asshole. Nothing I stated indicated otherwise, so you've wasted time and space trying to be a clever and condescending Windbag.

I am curious about something. Is the reason you call yourself taichiliberal and then make such stupid posts because you are actually Lindsey Graham?

And since I (once again) demonstrated above the inability for this Windbag to read carefully and comprehensively, or to THINK AND REVIEW what others have stated before typing his Quantum dreck, I leave him to look foolish with his false sense of accomplishment and subsequent childish attempt at insult.

So, when you said that if this had been purely domestic he would have been arrested for inciting a riot you actually meant that he was completely innocent of anything at all?

Got it.


And once again, the chronology of the posts proves that this Quantum Windbag has no substance: http://www.usmessageboard.com/3497420-post396.html
 
Qur'an 005.051

YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

51 يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ لاَ تَتَّخِذُواْ الْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصَارَى أَوْلِيَاء بَعْضُهُمْ أَوْلِيَاء بَعْضٍ وَمَن يَتَوَلَّهُم مِّنكُمْ فَإِنَّهُ مِنْهُمْ إِنَّ اللّهَ لاَ يَهْدِي الْقَوْمَ الظَّالِمِينَ

This verse in the Quran was handed down over a thousand years ago.

And is as true today as it was back then.

The Jews and Christians will always team up against the Muslims.

Muslims who take then as friends during a time of conflict are only deluding themselves.

Because the Jews and Christian see Islam as an enemy not a friend. :evil:N


Just to keep things straight.....you've attached my name to the wrong quote

http://www.usmessageboard.com/3497420-post396.html
 
And since I (once again) demonstrated above the inability for this Windbag to read carefully and comprehensively, or to THINK AND REVIEW what others have stated before typing his Quantum dreck, I leave him to look foolish with his false sense of accomplishment and subsequent childish attempt at insult.

So, when you said that if this had been purely domestic he would have been arrested for inciting a riot you actually meant that he was completely innocent of anything at all?

Got it.


And once again, the chronology of the posts proves that this Quantum Windbag has no substance: http://www.usmessageboard.com/3497420-post396.html

Yep, because when you said.

If this were a totally domestic situation, Jones would be held on charges of inciting to riot, etc. But since Jones is NOT in Afghanistan, he can't be held accountable for the actions of those moronic individuals/groups.

But Jones is an asshole who puts his prostelyzing above human lives...and the arrogant little shits in Afghanistan are fooling themselves if they think their not marked for future executions on some level.

You conveniently forgot the fact that it took 10 days between his action and the rioting. That, again, disqualifies this from being inciting to riot, even if it was a totally domestic situation, and it happened in the same city. Don't let little things like truth get in the way of your delusions though.
 
Wanna know why it took 10 days? Because the media in this country was being very responsible and not covering that story, but........when Karzai heard about it and found it on YouTube, he used that as a political tool to get his people to riot against Americans. I mean......after all.......elections are coming up for him, and in his country, being anti-American is political capital among Muslims.

Yeah........it IS the fault of the rioters, but Terry Jones shouldn't have burned the fucking thing in the first place.

Like I said, I hope any retired or prior military person who wants to work out some aggression goes up to him and kicks his ass badly enough to put him in the hospital.
 
Wanna know why it took 10 days? Because the media in this country was being very responsible and not covering that story, but........when Karzai heard about it and found it on YouTube, he used that as a political tool to get his people to riot against Americans. I mean......after all.......elections are coming up for him, and in his country, being anti-American is political capital among Muslims.

Yeah........it IS the fault of the rioters, but Terry Jones shouldn't have burned the fucking thing in the first place.

Like I said, I hope any retired or prior military person who wants to work out some aggression goes up to him and kicks his ass badly enough to put him in the hospital.

I am addressing a point that the idiot I am responding to is trying to make.

Let me ask you something. If Jones had stood up and condemned us bombing Libya, and argued that doing so proved that we are at war with Islam and someone had later used that speech to fire up rioters in Afghanistan, and the exact same thing had happened, would he have been wrong then?
 
So, when you said that if this had been purely domestic he would have been arrested for inciting a riot you actually meant that he was completely innocent of anything at all?

Got it.


And once again, the chronology of the posts proves that this Quantum Windbag has no substance: http://www.usmessageboard.com/3497420-post396.html

Yep, because when you said.

If this were a totally domestic situation, Jones would be held on charges of inciting to riot, etc. But since Jones is NOT in Afghanistan, he can't be held accountable for the actions of those moronic individuals/groups.

But Jones is an asshole who puts his prostelyzing above human lives...and the arrogant little shits in Afghanistan are fooling themselves if they think their not marked for future executions on some level.

You conveniently forgot the fact that it took 10 days between his action and the rioting. That, again, disqualifies this from being inciting to riot, even if it was a totally domestic situation, and it happened in the same city. Don't let little things like truth get in the way of your delusions though.

Did I say it would have to be the EXACT time frame, you silly Windbag? Nope. Only stupid defenders of assholes like Jones would put that forth in order to absolve him of any complicity in this tragedy. But again for the mentally challenged, I stated that since Jones was here and the event took place a half world away, he can't be held accountable, etc.....I assumed one would also take into account time difference/delay, web access, orders from extremist leaders, etc. Had it been totally domestic, you would NOT have had a ten day delay....and the law would have acted accordingly.

But regardless, Jones is STILL a POS for pushing his prostelyzing and self promotion knowing that it will result in violence. If you think not, then some much more to pity you.

Now, be a good little Windbag and quantumly repeat your BS ad nauseum.
 
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Wanna know why it took 10 days? Because the media in this country was being very responsible and not covering that story, but........when Karzai heard about it and found it on YouTube, he used that as a political tool to get his people to riot against Americans. I mean......after all.......elections are coming up for him, and in his country, being anti-American is political capital among Muslims.

Yeah........it IS the fault of the rioters, but Terry Jones shouldn't have burned the fucking thing in the first place.

Like I said, I hope any retired or prior military person who wants to work out some aggression goes up to him and kicks his ass badly enough to put him in the hospital.

Because you are such a big supporter of free speech and are sure that those muzzard savages can never see how stupid they look.
You are an American hero, take so of the 200 bucks you get each 2 weeks and ride that bike to florida.
 
Qur'an 005.051

YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

51 يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ لاَ تَتَّخِذُواْ الْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصَارَى أَوْلِيَاء بَعْضُهُمْ أَوْلِيَاء بَعْضٍ وَمَن يَتَوَلَّهُم مِّنكُمْ فَإِنَّهُ مِنْهُمْ إِنَّ اللّهَ لاَ يَهْدِي الْقَوْمَ الظَّالِمِينَ

This verse in the Quran was handed down over a thousand years ago.

And is as true today as it was back then.

The Jews and Christians will always team up against the Muslims.

Muslims who take then as friends during a time of conflict are only deluding themselves.

Because the Jews and Christian see Islam as an enemy not a friend. :evil:N


Just to keep things straight.....you've attached my name to the wrong quote

http://www.usmessageboard.com/3497420-post396.html

really?


Qur'an 005.051

YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

51 يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ لاَ تَتَّخِذُواْ الْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصَارَى أَوْلِيَاء بَعْضُهُمْ أَوْلِيَاء بَعْضٍ وَمَن يَتَوَلَّهُم مِّنكُمْ فَإِنَّهُ مِنْهُمْ إِنَّ اللّهَ لاَ يَهْدِي الْقَوْمَ الظَّالِمِينَ

This verse in the Quran was handed down over a thousand years ago.

And is as true today as it was back then.

The Jews and Christians will always team up against the Muslims.

Muslims who take then as friends during a time of conflict are only deluding themselves.

Because the Jews and Christian see Islam as an enemy not a friend. :evil:N
 
This verse in the Quran was handed down over a thousand years ago.

And is as true today as it was back then.

The Jews and Christians will always team up against the Muslims.

Muslims who take then as friends during a time of conflict are only deluding themselves.

Because the Jews and Christian see Islam as an enemy not a friend. :evil:N


Just to keep things straight.....you've attached my name to the wrong quote

http://www.usmessageboard.com/3497420-post396.html

really?


Qur'an 005.051

YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

51 يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ لاَ تَتَّخِذُواْ الْيَهُودَ وَالنَّصَارَى أَوْلِيَاء بَعْضُهُمْ أَوْلِيَاء بَعْضٍ وَمَن يَتَوَلَّهُم مِّنكُمْ فَإِنَّهُ مِنْهُمْ إِنَّ اللّهَ لاَ يَهْدِي الْقَوْمَ الظَّالِمِينَ

This verse in the Quran was handed down over a thousand years ago.

And is as true today as it was back then.

The Jews and Christians will always team up against the Muslims.

Muslims who take then as friends during a time of conflict are only deluding themselves.

Because the Jews and Christian see Islam as an enemy not a friend. :evil:N

All one has to do is click the little arrows next to my name in the quote, and they eventually take you to post #396, which shows what REALLY transpired in the chronology of the posts.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/3497420-post396.html

So unless YOU or some other dumbass don't want to get reported for a violation of the rules and subsequently get banned, you'll knock it off.
 
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Wanna know why it took 10 days? Because the media in this country was being very responsible and not covering that story, but........when Karzai heard about it and found it on YouTube, he used that as a political tool to get his people to riot against Americans. I mean......after all.......elections are coming up for him, and in his country, being anti-American is political capital among Muslims.

Yeah........it IS the fault of the rioters, but Terry Jones shouldn't have burned the fucking thing in the first place.

Like I said, I hope any retired or prior military person who wants to work out some aggression goes up to him and kicks his ass badly enough to put him in the hospital.

I am addressing a point that the idiot I am responding to is trying to make.

Let me ask you something. If Jones had stood up and condemned us bombing Libya, and argued that doing so proved that we are at war with Islam and someone had later used that speech to fire up rioters in Afghanistan, and the exact same thing had happened, would he have been wrong then?

Wouldn't have fired them up like that for talking about Libya.

The Koran is much more than just a book to them, it's a symbol.
 
Wanna know why it took 10 days? Because the media in this country was being very responsible and not covering that story, but........when Karzai heard about it and found it on YouTube, he used that as a political tool to get his people to riot against Americans. I mean......after all.......elections are coming up for him, and in his country, being anti-American is political capital among Muslims.

Yeah........it IS the fault of the rioters, but Terry Jones shouldn't have burned the fucking thing in the first place.

Like I said, I hope any retired or prior military person who wants to work out some aggression goes up to him and kicks his ass badly enough to put him in the hospital.

I am addressing a point that the idiot I am responding to is trying to make.

Let me ask you something. If Jones had stood up and condemned us bombing Libya, and argued that doing so proved that we are at war with Islam and someone had later used that speech to fire up rioters in Afghanistan, and the exact same thing had happened, would he have been wrong then?

Wouldn't have fired them up like that for talking about Libya.

The Koran is much more than just a book to them, it's a symbol.

Translation: I do not want to answer that because it proves that I am wrong. The really weird thing is that these are the same people who had nor problem with the destruction of the Buddha statues in Afghanistan. Those were symbols to other people, and they literraly blasted all trace of them off the face of the Earth.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4xrpjR0_0o"]YouTube - Taliban destroying Buddha statues in Afghanistan[/ame]

If they have no problem destroying the symbols of another religion why should I care if someone destroys a symbol of their religion? Why didn't they riot when the US military destroyed Bibles that were shipped to soldiers in Afghanistan? Why didn't they at least speak up about it being against the principles of their religion? Which it is, by the way.

The problem here is not Jones, it is them. And, perhaps, you.
 
I am addressing a point that the idiot I am responding to is trying to make.

Let me ask you something. If Jones had stood up and condemned us bombing Libya, and argued that doing so proved that we are at war with Islam and someone had later used that speech to fire up rioters in Afghanistan, and the exact same thing had happened, would he have been wrong then?

Wouldn't have fired them up like that for talking about Libya.

The Koran is much more than just a book to them, it's a symbol.

Translation: I do not want to answer that because it proves that I am wrong. The really weird thing is that these are the same people who had nor problem with the destruction of the Buddha statues in Afghanistan. Those were symbols to other people, and they literraly blasted all trace of them off the face of the Earth.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4xrpjR0_0o"]YouTube - Taliban destroying Buddha statues in Afghanistan[/ame]

If they have no problem destroying the symbols of another religion why should I care if someone destroys a symbol of their religion? Why didn't they riot when the US military destroyed Bibles that were shipped to soldiers in Afghanistan? Why didn't they at least speak up about it being against the principles of their religion? Which it is, by the way.

The problem here is not Jones, it is them. And, perhaps, you.

But...why did Jones burn the book?
 
Wouldn't have fired them up like that for talking about Libya.

The Koran is much more than just a book to them, it's a symbol.

Translation: I do not want to answer that because it proves that I am wrong. The really weird thing is that these are the same people who had nor problem with the destruction of the Buddha statues in Afghanistan. Those were symbols to other people, and they literraly blasted all trace of them off the face of the Earth.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4xrpjR0_0o"]YouTube - Taliban destroying Buddha statues in Afghanistan[/ame]

If they have no problem destroying the symbols of another religion why should I care if someone destroys a symbol of their religion? Why didn't they riot when the US military destroyed Bibles that were shipped to soldiers in Afghanistan? Why didn't they at least speak up about it being against the principles of their religion? Which it is, by the way.

The problem here is not Jones, it is them. And, perhaps, you.

But...why did Jones burn the book?

The bigger question is, why were people killed because a book was burned.
 
Wanna know why it took 10 days? Because the media in this country was being very responsible and not covering that story, but........when Karzai heard about it and found it on YouTube, he used that as a political tool to get his people to riot against Americans. I mean......after all.......elections are coming up for him, and in his country, being anti-American is political capital among Muslims.

Yeah........it IS the fault of the rioters, but Terry Jones shouldn't have burned the fucking thing in the first place.

Like I said, I hope any retired or prior military person who wants to work out some aggression goes up to him and kicks his ass badly enough to put him in the hospital.

I am addressing a point that the idiot I am responding to is trying to make.

Let me ask you something. If Jones had stood up and condemned us bombing Libya, and argued that doing so proved that we are at war with Islam and someone had later used that speech to fire up rioters in Afghanistan, and the exact same thing had happened, would he have been wrong then?

Wouldn't have fired them up like that for talking about Libya.

The Koran is much more than just a book to them, it's a symbol.

And the American flag, what is it?
 
Translation: I do not want to answer that because it proves that I am wrong. The really weird thing is that these are the same people who had nor problem with the destruction of the Buddha statues in Afghanistan. Those were symbols to other people, and they literraly blasted all trace of them off the face of the Earth.

YouTube - Taliban destroying Buddha statues in Afghanistan

If they have no problem destroying the symbols of another religion why should I care if someone destroys a symbol of their religion? Why didn't they riot when the US military destroyed Bibles that were shipped to soldiers in Afghanistan? Why didn't they at least speak up about it being against the principles of their religion? Which it is, by the way.

The problem here is not Jones, it is them. And, perhaps, you.

But...why did Jones burn the book?

The bigger question is, why were people killed because a book was burned.

That would be the next question but first, why did Jones burn the book?
 
But...why did Jones burn the book?

The bigger question is, why were people killed because a book was burned.

That would be the next question but first, why did Jones burn the book?
Because the act of burning a book is iirelavant, the book has no life in it. Your question should not even be asked it doesn't matter. The question is why were people killed because of the burning of a book?
A book against the value of life?
 

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