Van Jones Admits Trump Is Helping Black People—and Democrats Are Panicking

[BluesLegend]

President Trump is storming into Dem territory and taking no prisoners. Former Dem blue states are now battle ground states

 

[Harry Dresden]

"
In a very telling interview, CNN contributor Van Jones tried to warn Democrats that Donald Trump just "sent a warning shot over the bow" letting them know that he's coming "after the black vote." But what he also said is that it will work, terrifying Democrats everywhere who have relied on the black voter block for everything.

Jones has supported the president's criminal justice reform, which affects many in the black community. It's extremely interesting to hear Jones say that Trump's message is "you may not like my rhetoric but look at my results. If he narrowcasts that it's going to be effective." Does it strike you as somewhat unreal that Democrats are worried about the fact that Trump is helping minorities? You would think they'd be thrilled about that, considering they claim to be the party for minorities. But perhaps even their staunchest defenders, like Jones, are discovering that Democrats love to talk about helping people while Trump is creating policies that are actually helping people."

Van Jones Admits Trump Is Helping Black People—and Democrats Are Panicking

Rut Roh

I guess Van Jones is forgetting what Obama did?

The spike follows the DoJ’s 2014 clemency initiative, which encouraged federal prisoners meeting certain criteria to submit petitions for commutations. As a result, the department has processed more than 20,000 petitions over these past three years. By comparison, during Ronald Reagan’s entire eight years in office, his justice department processed just over 1,300 applications and granted a total of 13.

But while the number of accepted petitions under Obama is unprecedented, it is also underwhelming, in part because the federal government has not been able to keep pace with the tens of thousands of applications.

While most of Obama’s executive actions could be undone by Trump, cutting short the sentences of inmates like Wayland Wilson will have a permanent impact for those people.

Obama made progress on criminal justice reform. Will it survive the next president?

Black Caucus tells Obama you've done too little for African-Americans

 

[Correll]

That is the way I recall it, and I'm not going to spend the time to go back. I'm not trying to be hostile or gotcha.

I kept talking about jobs and you kept dismissing that.


If I am wrong, you are welcome to explain how and/or why.

Please quote me saying that.

And when you can't, you won't admit it.

Because you're a liar.
.

That was the impression you gave me, if I got it wrong, or you gave it wrong, you are welcome to correct it.


It is not reasonable of you to be upset about this.

I no longer have any patience for you guys fabricating my words rather than quoting me.

It's certainly a very good sign, but it gets tedious.

And you complain when I choose not to communicate with you.
.

I tried as hard as I could to understand your position. If I got it wrong, I want you to correct me.


Your drama is not helpful. I carefully used your full name, so that you would know I was referencing you, so that if you had something to add, you could.


DO you have anything to add, relevant to the topic?

Nope, please continue as you were.
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Well, Van Jones, seems to think that Trump's strategy has a chance. I thought your answer would be that you disagree, but you say I am wrong about your position.


SO, what do you think of what Van JOnes said?

 

[Penelope]

Please quote me saying that.

And when you can't, you won't admit it.

Because you're a liar.
.

That was the impression you gave me, if I got it wrong, or you gave it wrong, you are welcome to correct it.


It is not reasonable of you to be upset about this.

I no longer have any patience for you guys fabricating my words rather than quoting me.

It's certainly a very good sign, but it gets tedious.

And you complain when I choose not to communicate with you.
.

I tried as hard as I could to understand your position. If I got it wrong, I want you to correct me.


Your drama is not helpful. I carefully used your full name, so that you would know I was referencing you, so that if you had something to add, you could.


DO you have anything to add, relevant to the topic?

Nope, please continue as you were.
.

Well, Van Jones, seems to think that Trump's strategy has a chance. I thought your answer would be that you disagree, but you say I am wrong about your position.


SO, what do you think of what Van JOnes said?

To carry on the Obama regulations and pass the refunding of the black college bill.

 

[Correll]

That was the impression you gave me, if I got it wrong, or you gave it wrong, you are welcome to correct it.


It is not reasonable of you to be upset about this.

I no longer have any patience for you guys fabricating my words rather than quoting me.

It's certainly a very good sign, but it gets tedious.

And you complain when I choose not to communicate with you.
.

I tried as hard as I could to understand your position. If I got it wrong, I want you to correct me.


Your drama is not helpful. I carefully used your full name, so that you would know I was referencing you, so that if you had something to add, you could.


DO you have anything to add, relevant to the topic?

Nope, please continue as you were.
.

Well, Van Jones, seems to think that Trump's strategy has a chance. I thought your answer would be that you disagree, but you say I am wrong about your position.


SO, what do you think of what Van JOnes said?

To carry on the Obama regulations and pass the refunding of the black college bill.

I have gotten used to pointing out to liberals, that despite their sentences being constructed as though they support a point, that they actually don't.


IN your case, I think this is the first time, that even the sentence structure of your post, fails to match up in any fashion with the post it was a reply to.


What you said, made no sense.

 

[Penelope]

The Senate's failure to renew $255 million in annual mandatory funding for historically black colleges is already having consequences on campuses,

I am sure the rampant fraud and misappropriation had nothing to do with the failure to renew.

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Actually no.

 

[22lcidw]

"
In a very telling interview, CNN contributor Van Jones tried to warn Democrats that Donald Trump just "sent a warning shot over the bow" letting them know that he's coming "after the black vote." But what he also said is that it will work, terrifying Democrats everywhere who have relied on the black voter block for everything.

Jones has supported the president's criminal justice reform, which affects many in the black community. It's extremely interesting to hear Jones say that Trump's message is "you may not like my rhetoric but look at my results. If he narrowcasts that it's going to be effective." Does it strike you as somewhat unreal that Democrats are worried about the fact that Trump is helping minorities? You would think they'd be thrilled about that, considering they claim to be the party for minorities. But perhaps even their staunchest defenders, like Jones, are discovering that Democrats love to talk about helping people while Trump is creating policies that are actually helping people."

Van Jones Admits Trump Is Helping Black People—and Democrats Are Panicking

Rut Roh

Well looky here:

The Senate's failure to renew $255 million in annual mandatory funding for historically black colleges is already having consequences on campuses, wrote Harry L. Williams, president and CEO of the Thurgood Marshall College Fund, in a letter to lawmakers Monday.

The group, which represents public historically black colleges, had called on the Senate to pass the FUTURE Act, which would have provided a short-term extension of Title III, Part F, funds that pay for STEM education at HBCUs. Senator Lamar Alexander, the GOP chairman of the Senate education committee, blocked the bill from passing on a voice vote before those funds expired on Sept. 30.

The issue with government money is that there is a percentage that does not get to what its intended for. And frankly, are there questions of getting what is paid for from these schools? I remember decades ago minorities weres ignoing up for colleges and not going. They collected the money for books and the tuition for at least the first of three months. And then did it again and again. This on top of food stamps, welfare and free medical. Of all the welfar programs meant to help people the the ones used the most are the ones that provide money in any way possible throughout the nation. There is a game. And the smarter people of a preferred group play it well.

 

[Penelope]

I no longer have any patience for you guys fabricating my words rather than quoting me.

It's certainly a very good sign, but it gets tedious.

And you complain when I choose not to communicate with you.
.

I tried as hard as I could to understand your position. If I got it wrong, I want you to correct me.


Your drama is not helpful. I carefully used your full name, so that you would know I was referencing you, so that if you had something to add, you could.


DO you have anything to add, relevant to the topic?

Nope, please continue as you were.
.

Well, Van Jones, seems to think that Trump's strategy has a chance. I thought your answer would be that you disagree, but you say I am wrong about your position.


SO, what do you think of what Van JOnes said?

To carry on the Obama regulations and pass the refunding of the black college bill.

I have gotten used to pointing out to liberals, that despite their sentences being constructed as though they support a point, that they actually don't.


IN your case, I think this is the first time, that even the sentence structure of your post, fails to match up in any fashion with the post it was a reply to.


What you said, made no sense.

Education Department misses deadline for its overhaul of student loan rules

"Betsy DeVos’ proposed rule would gut protections for borrowers and leave taxpayers footing the bill for predatory schools’ risky conduct,” Julie Murray, a lawyer with Public Citizen, said in a written statement. “It’s high time for the secretary to stop making excuses and put the Obama-era rule in place, as it should have been for more than a year now.”
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The Senate republicans wanted to combine the rule for higher ed and the black college funds.

 

[Correll]

I tried as hard as I could to understand your position. If I got it wrong, I want you to correct me.


Your drama is not helpful. I carefully used your full name, so that you would know I was referencing you, so that if you had something to add, you could.


DO you have anything to add, relevant to the topic?

Nope, please continue as you were.
.

Well, Van Jones, seems to think that Trump's strategy has a chance. I thought your answer would be that you disagree, but you say I am wrong about your position.


SO, what do you think of what Van JOnes said?

To carry on the Obama regulations and pass the refunding of the black college bill.

I have gotten used to pointing out to liberals, that despite their sentences being constructed as though they support a point, that they actually don't.


IN your case, I think this is the first time, that even the sentence structure of your post, fails to match up in any fashion with the post it was a reply to.


What you said, made no sense.

Education Department misses deadline for its overhaul of student loan rules

"Betsy DeVos’ proposed rule would gut protections for borrowers and leave taxpayers footing the bill for predatory schools’ risky conduct,” Julie Murray, a lawyer with Public Citizen, said in a written statement. “It’s high time for the secretary to stop making excuses and put the Obama-era rule in place, as it should have been for more than a year now.”
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The Senate republicans wanted to combine the rule for higher ed and the black college funds.

So, the most sense I can make of your actions, is that you are trying desperately to change the subject from the OP, by pretending to be too stupid to understand what the topic is.


Meanwhile, the post you hit reply to, was about Van JOnes's comments on Trump's strategy of trying to get black votes.



Do you have an on topic comment to make, or are you just a troll, like most libs?

 

[DustyInfinity]

Mac1952 insists that minorities care more about rhetoric than economic results.

Please quote me saying that.

And when you can't, you won't admit it.

Because you're a liar.
.

That is the way I recall it, and I'm not going to spend the time to go back. I'm not trying to be hostile or gotcha.

I kept talking about jobs and you kept dismissing that.


If I am wrong, you are welcome to explain how and/or why.

Please quote me saying that.

And when you can't, you won't admit it.

Because you're a liar.
.

That was the impression you gave me, if I got it wrong, or you gave it wrong, you are welcome to correct it.


It is not reasonable of you to be upset about this.

I no longer have any patience for you guys fabricating my words rather than quoting me.

It's certainly a very good sign, but it gets tedious.

And you complain when I choose not to communicate with you.
.

When you give an actual point of view instead of trolling or bashing people, you would run no risk of being mischaracterized. Correll is probably talking about your numerous threads where you say republicans aren't reaching out to minorities and that they are mistaken to think issues will change their minds? Those threads weren't specifically about economics, but the gist is basically what correll is saying. You care a great deal about politics, you should give your point of view more often. Something beyond everybody is wingers and some nebulous spectrum.

 

[Mac1958]

Please quote me saying that.

And when you can't, you won't admit it.

Because you're a liar.
.

That is the way I recall it, and I'm not going to spend the time to go back. I'm not trying to be hostile or gotcha.

I kept talking about jobs and you kept dismissing that.


If I am wrong, you are welcome to explain how and/or why.

Please quote me saying that.

And when you can't, you won't admit it.

Because you're a liar.
.

That was the impression you gave me, if I got it wrong, or you gave it wrong, you are welcome to correct it.


It is not reasonable of you to be upset about this.

I no longer have any patience for you guys fabricating my words rather than quoting me.

It's certainly a very good sign, but it gets tedious.

And you complain when I choose not to communicate with you.
.

When you give an actual point of view instead of trolling or bashing people, you would run no risk of being mischaracterized. Correll is probably talking about your numerous threads where you say republicans aren't reaching out to minorities and that they are mistaken to think issues will change their minds? Those threads weren't specifically about economics, but the gist is basically what correll is saying. You care a great deal about politics, you should give your point of view more often. Something beyond everybody is wingers and some nebulous spectrum.

I quote people. You guys make shit up.

I prefer my way.
.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

That is the way I recall it, and I'm not going to spend the time to go back. I'm not trying to be hostile or gotcha.

I kept talking about jobs and you kept dismissing that.


If I am wrong, you are welcome to explain how and/or why.

Please quote me saying that.

And when you can't, you won't admit it.

Because you're a liar.
.

That was the impression you gave me, if I got it wrong, or you gave it wrong, you are welcome to correct it.


It is not reasonable of you to be upset about this.

I no longer have any patience for you guys fabricating my words rather than quoting me.

It's certainly a very good sign, but it gets tedious.

And you complain when I choose not to communicate with you.
.

When you give an actual point of view instead of trolling or bashing people, you would run no risk of being mischaracterized. Correll is probably talking about your numerous threads where you say republicans aren't reaching out to minorities and that they are mistaken to think issues will change their minds? Those threads weren't specifically about economics, but the gist is basically what correll is saying. You care a great deal about politics, you should give your point of view more often. Something beyond everybody is wingers and some nebulous spectrum.

I quote people. You guys make shit up.

I prefer my way.
.

Mac, you used to be witty. Now, you're all radical. What's going on here?

 

[Mac1958]

Please quote me saying that.

And when you can't, you won't admit it.

Because you're a liar.
.

That was the impression you gave me, if I got it wrong, or you gave it wrong, you are welcome to correct it.


It is not reasonable of you to be upset about this.

I no longer have any patience for you guys fabricating my words rather than quoting me.

It's certainly a very good sign, but it gets tedious.

And you complain when I choose not to communicate with you.
.

When you give an actual point of view instead of trolling or bashing people, you would run no risk of being mischaracterized. Correll is probably talking about your numerous threads where you say republicans aren't reaching out to minorities and that they are mistaken to think issues will change their minds? Those threads weren't specifically about economics, but the gist is basically what correll is saying. You care a great deal about politics, you should give your point of view more often. Something beyond everybody is wingers and some nebulous spectrum.

I quote people. You guys make shit up.

I prefer my way.
.

Mac, you used to be witty. Now, you're all radical. What's going on here?

I've lost my patience for asymmetrical online conversations, that's all.
.

 

[JustAGuy1]

I tried as hard as I could to understand your position. If I got it wrong, I want you to correct me.


Your drama is not helpful. I carefully used your full name, so that you would know I was referencing you, so that if you had something to add, you could.


DO you have anything to add, relevant to the topic?

Nope, please continue as you were.
.

Well, Van Jones, seems to think that Trump's strategy has a chance. I thought your answer would be that you disagree, but you say I am wrong about your position.


SO, what do you think of what Van JOnes said?

To carry on the Obama regulations and pass the refunding of the black college bill.

I have gotten used to pointing out to liberals, that despite their sentences being constructed as though they support a point, that they actually don't.


IN your case, I think this is the first time, that even the sentence structure of your post, fails to match up in any fashion with the post it was a reply to.


What you said, made no sense.

Education Department misses deadline for its overhaul of student loan rules

"Betsy DeVos’ proposed rule would gut protections for borrowers and leave taxpayers footing the bill for predatory schools’ risky conduct,” Julie Murray, a lawyer with Public Citizen, said in a written statement. “It’s high time for the secretary to stop making excuses and put the Obama-era rule in place, as it should have been for more than a year now.”
-------------------------------------

The Senate republicans wanted to combine the rule for higher ed and the black college funds.

Surely all of this connects to Jones somehow?

 

[Correll]

Please quote me saying that.

And when you can't, you won't admit it.

Because you're a liar.
.

That was the impression you gave me, if I got it wrong, or you gave it wrong, you are welcome to correct it.


It is not reasonable of you to be upset about this.

I no longer have any patience for you guys fabricating my words rather than quoting me.

It's certainly a very good sign, but it gets tedious.

And you complain when I choose not to communicate with you.
.

When you give an actual point of view instead of trolling or bashing people, you would run no risk of being mischaracterized. Correll is probably talking about your numerous threads where you say republicans aren't reaching out to minorities and that they are mistaken to think issues will change their minds? Those threads weren't specifically about economics, but the gist is basically what correll is saying. You care a great deal about politics, you should give your point of view more often. Something beyond everybody is wingers and some nebulous spectrum.

I quote people. You guys make shit up.

I prefer my way.
.

Mac, you used to be witty. Now, you're all radical. What's going on here?

When confronted by evidence that they are wrong, it is natural for humans to double down on their beliefs.


This is because people are not rational.


Rational discussion is about convincing OTHER people, who are as of yet undecided.