Vermont passes gun control laws that won't stop mass shooters or criminals from getting guns, stupid

[Skull Pilot]

Vermont.....showing that the belief that anti gunners will not be appeased by common sense gun control and will simply react, as obama said about Boston police, "Stupidly".....passed several gun control laws....

None of the laws will stop criminals or mass shooters from using guns to murder people....they will not limit the ability of criminals and mass shooters to get guns....

They have deprived Americans of their Right to own guns and to use enough bullets to stop those same mass shooters and criminals.......

Anti gunners...you haven't managed to do it in the past, but let's see if you can do it now, explain how any of these laws will stop criminals or mass shooters....



BREAKING: Vermont Legislature Passes Gun Control. Republican Governor said he will sign. - The Truth About Guns

Very true

If we want to make a significant impact on 30,000 gun deaths a year, we need to ban handguns

Suicide is not a crime and there is no evidence that banning any guns will lower the suicide rate

None of you people are serious about stopping gun violence because none of you people are putting any effort into lowering the murder rate where most murders happen.

Suicide is indeed a crime, and please explain your "no evidence," comment.

Suicide is not illegal

And just as many people commit suicide without a gun as those that do. Indeed some countries with the tough gun laws you love have a higher suicide rate than the US

In 2014 Australia had a higher suicide rate than we did even after their gun bans and confiscations. Japan has extremely strict gun laws and a higher suicide rate than the US as does Germany

The only thing you can say is that gun confiscations reduce suicide by gun but there is no evidence that the rate of all suicides will be lower.

And the fact is suicide is a choice and I will argue it is the ultimate personal choice and people should be free to make those choices without your butting in

 

[2aguy]

Vermont.....showing that the belief that anti gunners will not be appeased by common sense gun control and will simply react, as obama said about Boston police, "Stupidly".....passed several gun control laws....

None of the laws will stop criminals or mass shooters from using guns to murder people....they will not limit the ability of criminals and mass shooters to get guns....

They have deprived Americans of their Right to own guns and to use enough bullets to stop those same mass shooters and criminals.......

Anti gunners...you haven't managed to do it in the past, but let's see if you can do it now, explain how any of these laws will stop criminals or mass shooters....



BREAKING: Vermont Legislature Passes Gun Control. Republican Governor said he will sign. - The Truth About Guns

Very true

If we want to make a significant impact on 30,000 gun deaths a year, we need to ban handguns

Suicide is not a crime and there is no evidence that banning any guns will lower the suicide rate

None of you people are serious about stopping gun violence because none of you people are putting any effort into lowering the murder rate where most murders happen.

Suicide is indeed a crime, and please explain your "no evidence," comment.

Here you go....evidence...actual research...

Fact Check, Gun Control and Suicide



There is no relation between suicide rate and gun ownership rates around the world. According to the 2016 World Health Statistics report, (2) suicide rates in the four countries cited as having restrictive gun control laws have suicide rates that are comparable to that in the U. S.: Australia, 11.6, Canada, 11.4, France, 15.8, UK, 7.0, and USA 13.7 suicides/100,000. By comparison, Japan has among the highest suicide rates in the world, 23.1/100,000, but gun ownership is extremely rare, 0.6 guns/100 people.

Suicide is a mental health issue. If guns are not available other means are used. Poisoning, in fact, is the most common method of suicide for U. S. females according to the Washington Post (34 % of suicides), and suffocation the second most common method for males (27%).

Secondly, gun ownership rates in France and Canada are not low, as is implied in the Post article. The rate of gun ownership in the U. S. is indeed high at 88.8 guns/100 residents, but gun ownership rates are also among the world’s highest in the other countries cited. Gun ownership rates in these countries are are as follows: Australia, 15, Canada, 30.8, France, 31.2, and UK 6.2 per 100 residents. (3,4) Gun ownership rates in Saudia Arabia are comparable to that in Canada and France, with 37.8 guns per 100 Saudi residents, yet the lowest suicide rate in the world is in Saudia Arabia (0.3 suicides per 100,000).

Third, recent statistics in the state of Florida show that nearly one third of the guns used in suicides are obtained illegally, putting these firearm deaths beyond control through gun laws.(5)

Fourth, the primary factors affecting suicide rates are personal stresses, cultural, economic, religious factors and demographics. According to the WHO statistics, the highest rates of suicide in the world are in the Republic of Korea, with 36.8 suicides per 100,000, but India, Japan, Russia, and Hungary all have rates above 20 per 100,000; roughly twice as high as the U.S. and the four countries that are the basis for the Post’s calculation that gun control would reduce U.S. suicide rates by 20 to 38 percent. Lebanon, Oman, and Iraq all have suicide rates below 1.1 per 100,000 people--less than 1/10 the suicide rate in the U. S., and Afghanistan, Algeria, Jamaica, Haiti, and Egypt have low suicide rates that are below 4 per 100,000 in contrast to 13.7 suicides/100,000 in the U. S.

 

[Crepitus]

Vermont.....showing that the belief that anti gunners will not be appeased by common sense gun control and will simply react, as obama said about Boston police, "Stupidly".....passed several gun control laws....

None of the laws will stop criminals or mass shooters from using guns to murder people....they will not limit the ability of criminals and mass shooters to get guns....

They have deprived Americans of their Right to own guns and to use enough bullets to stop those same mass shooters and criminals.......

Anti gunners...you haven't managed to do it in the past, but let's see if you can do it now, explain how any of these laws will stop criminals or mass shooters....



BREAKING: Vermont Legislature Passes Gun Control. Republican Governor said he will sign. - The Truth About Guns

Very true

If we want to make a significant impact on 30,000 gun deaths a year, we need to ban handguns

Suicide is not a crime and there is no evidence that banning any guns will lower the suicide rate

None of you people are serious about stopping gun violence because none of you people are putting any effort into lowering the murder rate where most murders happen.

Suicide is indeed a crime, and please explain your "no evidence," comment.

Suicide is not illegal

And just as many people commit suicide without a gun as those that do. Indeed some countries with the tough gun laws you love have a higher suicide rate than the US

In 2014 Australia had a higher suicide rate than we did even after their gun bans and confiscations. Japan has extremely strict gun laws and a higher suicide rate than the US as does Germany

The only thing you can say is that gun confiscations reduce suicide by gun but there is no evidence that the rate of all suicides will be lower.

And the fact is suicide is a choice and I will argue it is the ultimate personal choice and people should be free to make those choices without your butting in

Actually while not a crime at the federal level suicide is still a crime in most states and assisting a suicide is a crime in all but two (think gun makers/sellers).

More than half of suicide attempts are by firearm and the firearm attempts are by far more successful than any other form.