Vermont passes gun control laws that won't stop mass shooters or criminals from getting guns, stupid

[2aguy]

Vermont.....showing that the belief that anti gunners will not be appeased by common sense gun control and will simply react, as obama said about Boston police, "Stupidly".....passed several gun control laws....

None of the laws will stop criminals or mass shooters from using guns to murder people....they will not limit the ability of criminals and mass shooters to get guns....

They have deprived Americans of their Right to own guns and to use enough bullets to stop those same mass shooters and criminals.......

Anti gunners...you haven't managed to do it in the past, but let's see if you can do it now, explain how any of these laws will stop criminals or mass shooters....



BREAKING: Vermont Legislature Passes Gun Control. Republican Governor said he will sign. - The Truth About Guns

Very true

If we want to make an impact on 30,000 gun deaths a year, we need to ban handguns

Britain banned guns...their gun crime is going up, not down....

More Americans own and carry guns...our gun crime rate is going down.....

U.K.....gun crime going up...

Yorkshire sees highest number of crimes for any county in Britain according to figures

“In particular we’re shocked to see an increase of nearly 30 per cent in weapon possession offences between 2016 and 2017.”

Crimes covered violent and sexual offences, vehicle theft, public order offences, possession of weapons, shoplifting, personal theft, drug crimes, robbery, criminal damage, bicycle thefts and anti-social behaviour.


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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223193/Culture-violence-Gun-crime-goes-89-decade.html

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.

The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .


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Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

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Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

----

He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

-----

Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

-----

Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

Violent crime on the rise in every corner of the country, figures suggest

But analysis of the figures force by force, showed the full extent of the problem, with only one constabulary, Nottinghamshire, recording a reduction in violent offences.

The vast majority of police forces actually witnessed double digit rises in violent crime, with Northumbria posting a 95 per cent increase year on year.

Of the other forces, Durham Police recorded a 73 per cent rise; West Yorkshire was up 48 per cent; Avon and Somerset 45 per cent; Dorset 39 per cent and Warwickshire 37 per cent.

Elsewhere Humberside, South Yorkshire, Staffordshire, Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent, Wiltshire and Dyfed Powys all saw violence rise by more than a quarter year on year.




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Two men stabbed dead within hours as violent crime soars in London

The shocking attacks come as new figures revealed crime overall in London is rising, with significant increases in cases of youth violence.


A total of 35 young people under the age of 25 have been murdered in the capital in the last 12 months, an 84 per cent rise on the same period last year.

The number of cases of serious youth violence - a measure of gang activity - also rose by 18 per cent.

-----


as well as a 16 per cent rise in the number of rapes.

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Gun crime rose by nearly 19 per cent and the number of shootings was up by 11 per cent to 338.

==============

London now more dangerous than New York City, crime stats suggest

While both London and New York have populations of around 8 million, figures suggest you are almost six times more likely to be burgled in the British capital than in the US city, and one and a half times more likely to fall victim to a robbery.

London has almost three times the number of reported rapes and while the murder rate in New York remains higher, the gap is narrowing dramatically.


The change in fortunes of the two global cities has been put down largely to the difference in tactics adopted by the two police forces.

Both Scotland Yard and the New York City Police Department (NYPD) have just over 30,000 officers each and budgets of around £3 billion a year.

But in the mid-1990s spiralling crime rates in New York - sparked by the crack cocaine epidemic - resulted in radical a new approach being adopted by the city's police department.

Under the leadership of Mayor Rudy Giuliani, and police commissioner, Bill Bratton, the NYPD introduced a zero tolerance approach to low level crime and flooded problem areas with patrols.

The force also put a huge amount of emphasis on community policing in order to build bridges between the police and members of the public.

As a result the murder plummeted from a high in 1990 of over 2,000 to a record low of 335 last year.

That figure is expected to fall even lower this year, and is currently in line to dip below 240.

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We have five times the murder rate of Great Britain

I would take their gun laws in a minute

their gun murder rate went up after they banned and confiscated guns....their gun crime rates are still going up...ours are all going down...

Britain...

Culture of violence: Gun crime goes up by 89% in a decade | Daily Mail Online

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.

The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .

Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

=========



Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Violent crime on the rise in every corner of the country, figures suggest

But analysis of the figures force by force, showed the full extent of the problem, with only one constabulary, Nottinghamshire, recording a reduction in violent offences.

The vast majority of police forces actually witnessed double digit rises in violent crime, with Northumbria posting a 95 per cent increase year on year.

Of the other forces, Durham Police recorded a 73 per cent rise; West Yorkshire was up 48 per cent; Avon and Somerset 45 per cent; Dorset 39 per cent and Warwickshire 37 per cent.

Elsewhere Humberside, South Yorkshire, Staffordshire, Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent, Wiltshire and Dyfed Powys all saw violence rise by more than a quarter year on year.

London now more dangerous than New York City, crime stats suggest

While both London and New York have populations of around 8 million, figures suggest you are almost six times more likely to be burgled in the British capital than in the US city, and one and a half times more likely to fall victim to a robbery.

London has almost three times the number of reported rapes and while the murder rate in New York remains higher, the gap is narrowing dramatically.

United States...

We went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2017...guess what happened...
-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[harmonica]

Vermont.....showing that the belief that anti gunners will not be appeased by common sense gun control and will simply react, as obama said about Boston police, "Stupidly".....passed several gun control laws....

None of the laws will stop criminals or mass shooters from using guns to murder people....they will not limit the ability of criminals and mass shooters to get guns....

They have deprived Americans of their Right to own guns and to use enough bullets to stop those same mass shooters and criminals.......

Anti gunners...you haven't managed to do it in the past, but let's see if you can do it now, explain how any of these laws will stop criminals or mass shooters....



BREAKING: Vermont Legislature Passes Gun Control. Republican Governor said he will sign. - The Truth About Guns

why is it so easy for criminals to get guns?? obviously the laws are not strict enough/not national

 

[2aguy]

Vermont.....showing that the belief that anti gunners will not be appeased by common sense gun control and will simply react, as obama said about Boston police, "Stupidly".....passed several gun control laws....

None of the laws will stop criminals or mass shooters from using guns to murder people....they will not limit the ability of criminals and mass shooters to get guns....

They have deprived Americans of their Right to own guns and to use enough bullets to stop those same mass shooters and criminals.......

Anti gunners...you haven't managed to do it in the past, but let's see if you can do it now, explain how any of these laws will stop criminals or mass shooters....



BREAKING: Vermont Legislature Passes Gun Control. Republican Governor said he will sign. - The Truth About Guns

why is it so easy for criminals to get guns?? obviously the laws are not strict enough/not national

It isn't the gun laws......Britain is an island......they banned and confiscated guns, they have gone the extra step that the anti gunners want here......and gun crime there is going up, not down....42% in London last year, 30% in Yorkshire, and 23% across all of England and Wales....dittos Australia, another island nation where they banned guns......


The criminals don't care about the consequences.....

Criminals use straw buyers to buy guns from gun stores....they also steal them. Dennis Prager did a special video on the Los Angeles police Department, you can see it on Youtube......the gang crime unit stated that the gangs in L.A. have special robbery teams that specifically target guns...they break into homes, and only take guns...where do they get the info. on the guns......the criminals stated that their girlfriends, mothers, sisters, and other relatives work in all levels of state and local government, so they have access to all of your public records..which is one reason the police have such little cooperation from victims....the gangs can find them.....

Japan solved their criminal gun problem one way....long prison sentences for criminals who use guns...and criminals caught in possession of guns.....but democrats will not focus on actual crimnals using guns....they keep letting these criminals out of jail in our major cities....

 

[rightwinger]

Vermont.....showing that the belief that anti gunners will not be appeased by common sense gun control and will simply react, as obama said about Boston police, "Stupidly".....passed several gun control laws....

None of the laws will stop criminals or mass shooters from using guns to murder people....they will not limit the ability of criminals and mass shooters to get guns....

They have deprived Americans of their Right to own guns and to use enough bullets to stop those same mass shooters and criminals.......

Anti gunners...you haven't managed to do it in the past, but let's see if you can do it now, explain how any of these laws will stop criminals or mass shooters....



BREAKING: Vermont Legislature Passes Gun Control. Republican Governor said he will sign. - The Truth About Guns

Very true

If we want to make an impact on 30,000 gun deaths a year, we need to ban handguns

Britain banned guns...their gun crime is going up, not down....

More Americans own and carry guns...our gun crime rate is going down.....

U.K.....gun crime going up...

Yorkshire sees highest number of crimes for any county in Britain according to figures

“In particular we’re shocked to see an increase of nearly 30 per cent in weapon possession offences between 2016 and 2017.”

Crimes covered violent and sexual offences, vehicle theft, public order offences, possession of weapons, shoplifting, personal theft, drug crimes, robbery, criminal damage, bicycle thefts and anti-social behaviour.


========

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223193/Culture-violence-Gun-crime-goes-89-decade.html

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.

The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .


========



Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

=========



Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

----

He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

-----

Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

-----

Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

Violent crime on the rise in every corner of the country, figures suggest

But analysis of the figures force by force, showed the full extent of the problem, with only one constabulary, Nottinghamshire, recording a reduction in violent offences.

The vast majority of police forces actually witnessed double digit rises in violent crime, with Northumbria posting a 95 per cent increase year on year.

Of the other forces, Durham Police recorded a 73 per cent rise; West Yorkshire was up 48 per cent; Avon and Somerset 45 per cent; Dorset 39 per cent and Warwickshire 37 per cent.

Elsewhere Humberside, South Yorkshire, Staffordshire, Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent, Wiltshire and Dyfed Powys all saw violence rise by more than a quarter year on year.




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Two men stabbed dead within hours as violent crime soars in London

The shocking attacks come as new figures revealed crime overall in London is rising, with significant increases in cases of youth violence.


A total of 35 young people under the age of 25 have been murdered in the capital in the last 12 months, an 84 per cent rise on the same period last year.

The number of cases of serious youth violence - a measure of gang activity - also rose by 18 per cent.

-----


as well as a 16 per cent rise in the number of rapes.

-------

Gun crime rose by nearly 19 per cent and the number of shootings was up by 11 per cent to 338.

==============

London now more dangerous than New York City, crime stats suggest

While both London and New York have populations of around 8 million, figures suggest you are almost six times more likely to be burgled in the British capital than in the US city, and one and a half times more likely to fall victim to a robbery.

London has almost three times the number of reported rapes and while the murder rate in New York remains higher, the gap is narrowing dramatically.


The change in fortunes of the two global cities has been put down largely to the difference in tactics adopted by the two police forces.

Both Scotland Yard and the New York City Police Department (NYPD) have just over 30,000 officers each and budgets of around £3 billion a year.

But in the mid-1990s spiralling crime rates in New York - sparked by the crack cocaine epidemic - resulted in radical a new approach being adopted by the city's police department.

Under the leadership of Mayor Rudy Giuliani, and police commissioner, Bill Bratton, the NYPD introduced a zero tolerance approach to low level crime and flooded problem areas with patrols.

The force also put a huge amount of emphasis on community policing in order to build bridges between the police and members of the public.

As a result the murder plummeted from a high in 1990 of over 2,000 to a record low of 335 last year.

That figure is expected to fall even lower this year, and is currently in line to dip below 240.

=======

We have five times the murder rate of Great Britain

We have five times the population of Great Britain.

Another clueless conservative who doesn’t understand the concept of “rate”

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Vermont.....showing that the belief that anti gunners will not be appeased by common sense gun control and will simply react, as obama said about Boston police, "Stupidly".....passed several gun control laws....

None of the laws will stop criminals or mass shooters from using guns to murder people....they will not limit the ability of criminals and mass shooters to get guns....

They have deprived Americans of their Right to own guns and to use enough bullets to stop those same mass shooters and criminals.......

Anti gunners...you haven't managed to do it in the past, but let's see if you can do it now, explain how any of these laws will stop criminals or mass shooters....



BREAKING: Vermont Legislature Passes Gun Control. Republican Governor said he will sign. - The Truth About Guns

Very true

If we want to make an impact on 30,000 gun deaths a year, we need to ban handguns

Britain banned guns...their gun crime is going up, not down....

More Americans own and carry guns...our gun crime rate is going down.....

U.K.....gun crime going up...

Yorkshire sees highest number of crimes for any county in Britain according to figures

“In particular we’re shocked to see an increase of nearly 30 per cent in weapon possession offences between 2016 and 2017.”

Crimes covered violent and sexual offences, vehicle theft, public order offences, possession of weapons, shoplifting, personal theft, drug crimes, robbery, criminal damage, bicycle thefts and anti-social behaviour.


========

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223193/Culture-violence-Gun-crime-goes-89-decade.html

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.

The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .


========



Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

=========



Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

----

He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

-----

Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

-----

Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

Violent crime on the rise in every corner of the country, figures suggest

But analysis of the figures force by force, showed the full extent of the problem, with only one constabulary, Nottinghamshire, recording a reduction in violent offences.

The vast majority of police forces actually witnessed double digit rises in violent crime, with Northumbria posting a 95 per cent increase year on year.

Of the other forces, Durham Police recorded a 73 per cent rise; West Yorkshire was up 48 per cent; Avon and Somerset 45 per cent; Dorset 39 per cent and Warwickshire 37 per cent.

Elsewhere Humberside, South Yorkshire, Staffordshire, Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent, Wiltshire and Dyfed Powys all saw violence rise by more than a quarter year on year.




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Two men stabbed dead within hours as violent crime soars in London

The shocking attacks come as new figures revealed crime overall in London is rising, with significant increases in cases of youth violence.


A total of 35 young people under the age of 25 have been murdered in the capital in the last 12 months, an 84 per cent rise on the same period last year.

The number of cases of serious youth violence - a measure of gang activity - also rose by 18 per cent.

-----


as well as a 16 per cent rise in the number of rapes.

-------

Gun crime rose by nearly 19 per cent and the number of shootings was up by 11 per cent to 338.

==============

London now more dangerous than New York City, crime stats suggest

While both London and New York have populations of around 8 million, figures suggest you are almost six times more likely to be burgled in the British capital than in the US city, and one and a half times more likely to fall victim to a robbery.

London has almost three times the number of reported rapes and while the murder rate in New York remains higher, the gap is narrowing dramatically.


The change in fortunes of the two global cities has been put down largely to the difference in tactics adopted by the two police forces.

Both Scotland Yard and the New York City Police Department (NYPD) have just over 30,000 officers each and budgets of around £3 billion a year.

But in the mid-1990s spiralling crime rates in New York - sparked by the crack cocaine epidemic - resulted in radical a new approach being adopted by the city's police department.

Under the leadership of Mayor Rudy Giuliani, and police commissioner, Bill Bratton, the NYPD introduced a zero tolerance approach to low level crime and flooded problem areas with patrols.

The force also put a huge amount of emphasis on community policing in order to build bridges between the police and members of the public.

As a result the murder plummeted from a high in 1990 of over 2,000 to a record low of 335 last year.

That figure is expected to fall even lower this year, and is currently in line to dip below 240.

=======

We have five times the murder rate of Great Britain

We have five times the population of Great Britain.

Another clueless conservative who doesn’t understand the concept of “rate”

Every word you wrote is wrong.

 

[Crepitus]

Breaking news! Republican governor stands up to NRA cultists, much whining ensues!

Hey....genius.....care to explain how anything they did would stop criminals or mass shooters....? Thought not.

You keep attacking the NRA...the NRA supports the FIX NICS act....the democrats oppose it.

California democrats passed a bill to let violent criminals out of prison early, the NRA fought against it...

The NRA trains local, state and federal law enforcement...the democrats constantly attack law enforcement and prevent them from arresting violent gun criminals.

You keep attacking the NRA...the NRA supports armed security and armed staff in the schools, the democrats oppose it.

The NRA teaches fun safety to millions of children...the democrats fight teaching gun safety to kids.

The NRA supports keeping violent gun offenders in prison, the democrats let violent gun offenders out of jail and pass laws letting them out early.

The NRA doesn't support the PROMISE PROGRAM, of obama, which allowed the shooter to get the gun...the democrats created and support the Promise program...which allowed the shooter to get his gun...

Since those are the facts, the truth and the reality.....

Of the two groups...the democrats are the ones supporting violent murder, not the NRA...

Why don't you explain why they would not.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Very true

If we want to make a significant impact on 30,000 gun deaths a year, we need to ban handguns

Vermont has the least stringent gun laws in the country. When was the last time they had a massive shooting incident?

 

[rightwinger]

Very true

If we want to make an impact on 30,000 gun deaths a year, we need to ban handguns

Britain banned guns...their gun crime is going up, not down....

More Americans own and carry guns...our gun crime rate is going down.....

U.K.....gun crime going up...

Yorkshire sees highest number of crimes for any county in Britain according to figures

“In particular we’re shocked to see an increase of nearly 30 per cent in weapon possession offences between 2016 and 2017.”

Crimes covered violent and sexual offences, vehicle theft, public order offences, possession of weapons, shoplifting, personal theft, drug crimes, robbery, criminal damage, bicycle thefts and anti-social behaviour.


========

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223193/Culture-violence-Gun-crime-goes-89-decade.html

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.

The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .


========



Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

=========



Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

----

He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

-----

Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

-----

Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

Violent crime on the rise in every corner of the country, figures suggest

But analysis of the figures force by force, showed the full extent of the problem, with only one constabulary, Nottinghamshire, recording a reduction in violent offences.

The vast majority of police forces actually witnessed double digit rises in violent crime, with Northumbria posting a 95 per cent increase year on year.

Of the other forces, Durham Police recorded a 73 per cent rise; West Yorkshire was up 48 per cent; Avon and Somerset 45 per cent; Dorset 39 per cent and Warwickshire 37 per cent.

Elsewhere Humberside, South Yorkshire, Staffordshire, Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent, Wiltshire and Dyfed Powys all saw violence rise by more than a quarter year on year.




-------

Two men stabbed dead within hours as violent crime soars in London

The shocking attacks come as new figures revealed crime overall in London is rising, with significant increases in cases of youth violence.


A total of 35 young people under the age of 25 have been murdered in the capital in the last 12 months, an 84 per cent rise on the same period last year.

The number of cases of serious youth violence - a measure of gang activity - also rose by 18 per cent.

-----


as well as a 16 per cent rise in the number of rapes.

-------

Gun crime rose by nearly 19 per cent and the number of shootings was up by 11 per cent to 338.

==============

London now more dangerous than New York City, crime stats suggest

While both London and New York have populations of around 8 million, figures suggest you are almost six times more likely to be burgled in the British capital than in the US city, and one and a half times more likely to fall victim to a robbery.

London has almost three times the number of reported rapes and while the murder rate in New York remains higher, the gap is narrowing dramatically.


The change in fortunes of the two global cities has been put down largely to the difference in tactics adopted by the two police forces.

Both Scotland Yard and the New York City Police Department (NYPD) have just over 30,000 officers each and budgets of around £3 billion a year.

But in the mid-1990s spiralling crime rates in New York - sparked by the crack cocaine epidemic - resulted in radical a new approach being adopted by the city's police department.

Under the leadership of Mayor Rudy Giuliani, and police commissioner, Bill Bratton, the NYPD introduced a zero tolerance approach to low level crime and flooded problem areas with patrols.

The force also put a huge amount of emphasis on community policing in order to build bridges between the police and members of the public.

As a result the murder plummeted from a high in 1990 of over 2,000 to a record low of 335 last year.

That figure is expected to fall even lower this year, and is currently in line to dip below 240.

=======

We have five times the murder rate of Great Britain

We have five times the population of Great Britain.

Another clueless conservative who doesn’t understand the concept of “rate”

Every word you wrote is wrong.

You still don’t understand what a murder rate is....do you?

 

[rightwinger]

Very true

If we want to make a significant impact on 30,000 gun deaths a year, we need to ban handguns

Vermont has the least stringent gun laws in the country. When was the last time they had a massive shooting incident?

It is because they are Vermont

Not many stick ups of Ben and Jerry’s

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Britain banned guns...their gun crime is going up, not down....

More Americans own and carry guns...our gun crime rate is going down.....

U.K.....gun crime going up...

Yorkshire sees highest number of crimes for any county in Britain according to figures

“In particular we’re shocked to see an increase of nearly 30 per cent in weapon possession offences between 2016 and 2017.”

Crimes covered violent and sexual offences, vehicle theft, public order offences, possession of weapons, shoplifting, personal theft, drug crimes, robbery, criminal damage, bicycle thefts and anti-social behaviour.


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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1223193/Culture-violence-Gun-crime-goes-89-decade.html

The latest Government figures show that the total number of firearm offences in England and Wales has increased from 5,209 in 1998/99 to 9,865 last year - a rise of 89 per cent.

The number of people injured or killed by guns, excluding air weapons, has increased from 864 in 1998/99 to a provisional figure of 1,760 in 2008/09, an increase of 104 per cent .


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Crime rise is biggest in a decade, ONS figures show

Ministers will also be concerned that the country is becoming increasingly violent in nature, with gun crime rising 23% to 6,375 offences, largely driven by an increase in the use of handguns.

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Gun crime in London increases by 42% - BBC News

Gun crime offences in London surged by 42% in the last year, according to official statistics.

Top trauma surgeon reveals shocking extent of London’s gun crime

A leading trauma surgeon has told how the number of patients treated for gunshot injuries at a major London hospital has doubled in the last five years.

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He said the hospital’s major trauma centre had seen a bigger rise in gunshot injuries compared to knife wounds and that the average age of victims was getting younger.

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Last year, gun crime offences in London increased for a third year running and by 42 per cent, from 1,793 offences in 2015/16 to 2,544 offences in 2016/17. Police have seized 635 guns off the streets so far this year.

Dr Griffiths, who also teaches medical students, said: “Our numbers of victims of gun injury have doubled [since 2012]. Gunshot injuries represent about 2.5 per cent of our penetrating trauma.

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Dr Griffiths said the average age of gun crime victims needing treatment at the hospital had decreased from 25 to the mid to late teens since 2012.

He added that medics at the Barts Health hospital’s major trauma centre in Whitechapel had seen a bigger rise in patients with gun injuries rather than knife wounds and that most were caused by pistols or shotguns.

Met Police commander Jim Stokley, who was also invited to speak at the meeting, said that handguns and shotguns were the weapons of choice and that 46 per cent of London’s gun crime discharges were gang-related.

He said: “We believe that a lot of it is associated with the drugs trade, and by that I mean people dealing drugs at street level and disagreements between different gangs.”

Violent crime on the rise in every corner of the country, figures suggest

But analysis of the figures force by force, showed the full extent of the problem, with only one constabulary, Nottinghamshire, recording a reduction in violent offences.

The vast majority of police forces actually witnessed double digit rises in violent crime, with Northumbria posting a 95 per cent increase year on year.

Of the other forces, Durham Police recorded a 73 per cent rise; West Yorkshire was up 48 per cent; Avon and Somerset 45 per cent; Dorset 39 per cent and Warwickshire 37 per cent.

Elsewhere Humberside, South Yorkshire, Staffordshire, Essex, Hertfordshire, Kent, Wiltshire and Dyfed Powys all saw violence rise by more than a quarter year on year.




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Two men stabbed dead within hours as violent crime soars in London

The shocking attacks come as new figures revealed crime overall in London is rising, with significant increases in cases of youth violence.


A total of 35 young people under the age of 25 have been murdered in the capital in the last 12 months, an 84 per cent rise on the same period last year.

The number of cases of serious youth violence - a measure of gang activity - also rose by 18 per cent.

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as well as a 16 per cent rise in the number of rapes.

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Gun crime rose by nearly 19 per cent and the number of shootings was up by 11 per cent to 338.

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London now more dangerous than New York City, crime stats suggest

While both London and New York have populations of around 8 million, figures suggest you are almost six times more likely to be burgled in the British capital than in the US city, and one and a half times more likely to fall victim to a robbery.

London has almost three times the number of reported rapes and while the murder rate in New York remains higher, the gap is narrowing dramatically.


The change in fortunes of the two global cities has been put down largely to the difference in tactics adopted by the two police forces.

Both Scotland Yard and the New York City Police Department (NYPD) have just over 30,000 officers each and budgets of around £3 billion a year.

But in the mid-1990s spiralling crime rates in New York - sparked by the crack cocaine epidemic - resulted in radical a new approach being adopted by the city's police department.

Under the leadership of Mayor Rudy Giuliani, and police commissioner, Bill Bratton, the NYPD introduced a zero tolerance approach to low level crime and flooded problem areas with patrols.

The force also put a huge amount of emphasis on community policing in order to build bridges between the police and members of the public.

As a result the murder plummeted from a high in 1990 of over 2,000 to a record low of 335 last year.

That figure is expected to fall even lower this year, and is currently in line to dip below 240.

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We have five times the murder rate of Great Britain

We have five times the population of Great Britain.

Another clueless conservative who doesn’t understand the concept of “rate”

Every word you wrote is wrong.

You still don’t understand what a murder rate is....do you?

I do.

"Hey Frank, do you know what a hasa is?"

 

[2aguy]

Breaking news! Republican governor stands up to NRA cultists, much whining ensues!

Hey....genius.....care to explain how anything they did would stop criminals or mass shooters....? Thought not.

You keep attacking the NRA...the NRA supports the FIX NICS act....the democrats oppose it.

California democrats passed a bill to let violent criminals out of prison early, the NRA fought against it...

The NRA trains local, state and federal law enforcement...the democrats constantly attack law enforcement and prevent them from arresting violent gun criminals.

You keep attacking the NRA...the NRA supports armed security and armed staff in the schools, the democrats oppose it.

The NRA teaches fun safety to millions of children...the democrats fight teaching gun safety to kids.

The NRA supports keeping violent gun offenders in prison, the democrats let violent gun offenders out of jail and pass laws letting them out early.

The NRA doesn't support the PROMISE PROGRAM, of obama, which allowed the shooter to get the gun...the democrats created and support the Promise program...which allowed the shooter to get his gun...

Since those are the facts, the truth and the reality.....

Of the two groups...the democrats are the ones supporting violent murder, not the NRA...

Why don't you explain why they would not.

Because the democrats need school shootings....dead kids in schools give them massive power.....as we have seen.....if you prevent child deaths from gun accidents, and keep mass shooters away from schools, you keep kids from getting killed with guns...and then it is harder for democrats to push gun control.

The democrats keep letting violent gun criminals out of jail.....they need gun crime to push gun control since normal gun owners don't use their guns for crime or murder.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Vermont.....showing that the belief that anti gunners will not be appeased by common sense gun control and will simply react, as obama said about Boston police, "Stupidly".....passed several gun control laws....

None of the laws will stop criminals or mass shooters from using guns to murder people....they will not limit the ability of criminals and mass shooters to get guns....

They have deprived Americans of their Right to own guns and to use enough bullets to stop those same mass shooters and criminals.......

Anti gunners...you haven't managed to do it in the past, but let's see if you can do it now, explain how any of these laws will stop criminals or mass shooters....



BREAKING: Vermont Legislature Passes Gun Control. Republican Governor said he will sign. - The Truth About Guns

Very true

If we want to make a significant impact on 30,000 gun deaths a year, we need to ban handguns

Suicide is not a crime and there is no evidence that banning any guns will lower the suicide rate

None of you people are serious about stopping gun violence because none of you people are putting any effort into lowering the murder rate where most murders happen.

Dead is dead
Families mourn just the same

Once we get 30,000 deaths a year from people jumping out of windows, I will post 30,000 dead from jumping out of windows

Until then.......we have 30,000 gun deaths a year

Doesn't matter. It's not illegal to make people sad.

Suicide is a choice and you have no right to tell people they can't decide for themselves if they want to live or die

Most gun deaths are suicides and therefore are a nonissue because suicide is not a crime

 

[Auld Phart]

Vermont.....showing that the belief that anti gunners will not be appeased by common sense gun control and will simply react, as obama said about Boston police, "Stupidly".....passed several gun control laws....

None of the laws will stop criminals or mass shooters from using guns to murder people....they will not limit the ability of criminals and mass shooters to get guns....

They have deprived Americans of their Right to own guns and to use enough bullets to stop those same mass shooters and criminals.......

Anti gunners...you haven't managed to do it in the past, but let's see if you can do it now, explain how any of these laws will stop criminals or mass shooters....



BREAKING: Vermont Legislature Passes Gun Control. Republican Governor said he will sign. - The Truth About Guns

Very true

If we want to make a significant impact on 30,000 gun deaths a year, we need to ban handguns

Suicide is not a crime and there is no evidence that banning any guns will lower the suicide rate

None of you people are serious about stopping gun violence because none of you people are putting any effort into lowering the murder rate where most murders happen.

Dead is dead
Families mourn just the same

Once we get 30,000 deaths a year from people jumping out of windows, I will post 30,000 dead from jumping out of windows

Until then.......we have 30,000 gun deaths a year

Doesn't matter. It's not illegal to make people sad.

Suicide is a choice and you have no right to tell people they can't decide for themselves if they want to live or die

Most gun deaths are suicides and therefore are a nonissue because suicide is not a crime

Suicide is a choice and you have no right to tell people they can't decide for themselves if they want to live or die

I remember a couple of years back, Democrats were all for Assisted Suicides by doctors?

Now all of a sudden, they're against DIY suicides, because a firearm is used?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Vermont.....showing that the belief that anti gunners will not be appeased by common sense gun control and will simply react, as obama said about Boston police, "Stupidly".....passed several gun control laws....

None of the laws will stop criminals or mass shooters from using guns to murder people....they will not limit the ability of criminals and mass shooters to get guns....

They have deprived Americans of their Right to own guns and to use enough bullets to stop those same mass shooters and criminals.......

Anti gunners...you haven't managed to do it in the past, but let's see if you can do it now, explain how any of these laws will stop criminals or mass shooters....



BREAKING: Vermont Legislature Passes Gun Control. Republican Governor said he will sign. - The Truth About Guns

Very true

If we want to make a significant impact on 30,000 gun deaths a year, we need to ban handguns

Suicide is not a crime and there is no evidence that banning any guns will lower the suicide rate

None of you people are serious about stopping gun violence because none of you people are putting any effort into lowering the murder rate where most murders happen.

Dead is dead
Families mourn just the same

Once we get 30,000 deaths a year from people jumping out of windows, I will post 30,000 dead from jumping out of windows

Until then.......we have 30,000 gun deaths a year

Doesn't matter. It's not illegal to make people sad.

Suicide is a choice and you have no right to tell people they can't decide for themselves if they want to live or die

Most gun deaths are suicides and therefore are a nonissue because suicide is not a crime

Suicide is a choice and you have no right to tell people they can't decide for themselves if they want to live or die

I remember a couple of years back, Democrats were all for Assisted Suicides by doctors?

Now all of a sudden, they're against DIY suicides, because a firearm is used?

And a half of all suicides are committed by other means

So Suicide is OK if you don't use a gun just like getting murdered is OK as long as you're not murdered with a rifle at the same time as a few other people

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Very true

If we want to make a significant impact on 30,000 gun deaths a year, we need to ban handguns

Vermont has the least stringent gun laws in the country. When was the last time they had a massive shooting incident?

It is because they are Vermont

Not many stick ups of Ben and Jerry’s

So the guns aren't the problem at all.

 

[Preacher]

Any day now will see a lawsuit filed over this unconstitutional law which will of course have to be paid for by the taxpaying citizens of Vermont. Sucks their incompetent politicians don't grasp the constitution.

 

[Crepitus]

Breaking news! Republican governor stands up to NRA cultists, much whining ensues!

Hey....genius.....care to explain how anything they did would stop criminals or mass shooters....? Thought not.

You keep attacking the NRA...the NRA supports the FIX NICS act....the democrats oppose it.

California democrats passed a bill to let violent criminals out of prison early, the NRA fought against it...

The NRA trains local, state and federal law enforcement...the democrats constantly attack law enforcement and prevent them from arresting violent gun criminals.

You keep attacking the NRA...the NRA supports armed security and armed staff in the schools, the democrats oppose it.

The NRA teaches fun safety to millions of children...the democrats fight teaching gun safety to kids.

The NRA supports keeping violent gun offenders in prison, the democrats let violent gun offenders out of jail and pass laws letting them out early.

The NRA doesn't support the PROMISE PROGRAM, of obama, which allowed the shooter to get the gun...the democrats created and support the Promise program...which allowed the shooter to get his gun...

Since those are the facts, the truth and the reality.....

Of the two groups...the democrats are the ones supporting violent murder, not the NRA...

Why don't you explain why they would not.

Because the democrats need school shootings....dead kids in schools give them massive power.....as we have seen.....if you prevent child deaths from gun accidents, and keep mass shooters away from schools, you keep kids from getting killed with guns...and then it is harder for democrats to push gun control.

The democrats keep letting violent gun criminals out of jail.....they need gun crime to push gun control since normal gun owners don't use their guns for crime or murder.

Don't be stupider than you have to be.

Nobody needs school shootings. Saying things like that makes you look like a retard.

 

[Crepitus]

Vermont.....showing that the belief that anti gunners will not be appeased by common sense gun control and will simply react, as obama said about Boston police, "Stupidly".....passed several gun control laws....

None of the laws will stop criminals or mass shooters from using guns to murder people....they will not limit the ability of criminals and mass shooters to get guns....

They have deprived Americans of their Right to own guns and to use enough bullets to stop those same mass shooters and criminals.......

Anti gunners...you haven't managed to do it in the past, but let's see if you can do it now, explain how any of these laws will stop criminals or mass shooters....



BREAKING: Vermont Legislature Passes Gun Control. Republican Governor said he will sign. - The Truth About Guns

Very true

If we want to make a significant impact on 30,000 gun deaths a year, we need to ban handguns

Suicide is not a crime and there is no evidence that banning any guns will lower the suicide rate

None of you people are serious about stopping gun violence because none of you people are putting any effort into lowering the murder rate where most murders happen.

Suicide is indeed a crime, and please explain your "no evidence," comment.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Breaking news! Republican governor stands up to NRA cultists, much whining ensues!

Hey....genius.....care to explain how anything they did would stop criminals or mass shooters....? Thought not.

You keep attacking the NRA...the NRA supports the FIX NICS act....the democrats oppose it.

California democrats passed a bill to let violent criminals out of prison early, the NRA fought against it...

The NRA trains local, state and federal law enforcement...the democrats constantly attack law enforcement and prevent them from arresting violent gun criminals.

You keep attacking the NRA...the NRA supports armed security and armed staff in the schools, the democrats oppose it.

The NRA teaches fun safety to millions of children...the democrats fight teaching gun safety to kids.

The NRA supports keeping violent gun offenders in prison, the democrats let violent gun offenders out of jail and pass laws letting them out early.

The NRA doesn't support the PROMISE PROGRAM, of obama, which allowed the shooter to get the gun...the democrats created and support the Promise program...which allowed the shooter to get his gun...

Since those are the facts, the truth and the reality.....

Of the two groups...the democrats are the ones supporting violent murder, not the NRA...

Why don't you explain why they would not.

Because the democrats need school shootings....dead kids in schools give them massive power.....as we have seen.....if you prevent child deaths from gun accidents, and keep mass shooters away from schools, you keep kids from getting killed with guns...and then it is harder for democrats to push gun control.

The democrats keep letting violent gun criminals out of jail.....they need gun crime to push gun control since normal gun owners don't use their guns for crime or murder.

Don't be stupider than you have to be.

Nobody needs school shootings. Saying things like that makes you look like a retard.

Whose sock are you?

 

[Crepitus]

Breaking news! Republican governor stands up to NRA cultists, much whining ensues!

Hey....genius.....care to explain how anything they did would stop criminals or mass shooters....? Thought not.

You keep attacking the NRA...the NRA supports the FIX NICS act....the democrats oppose it.

California democrats passed a bill to let violent criminals out of prison early, the NRA fought against it...

The NRA trains local, state and federal law enforcement...the democrats constantly attack law enforcement and prevent them from arresting violent gun criminals.

You keep attacking the NRA...the NRA supports armed security and armed staff in the schools, the democrats oppose it.

The NRA teaches fun safety to millions of children...the democrats fight teaching gun safety to kids.

The NRA supports keeping violent gun offenders in prison, the democrats let violent gun offenders out of jail and pass laws letting them out early.

The NRA doesn't support the PROMISE PROGRAM, of obama, which allowed the shooter to get the gun...the democrats created and support the Promise program...which allowed the shooter to get his gun...

Since those are the facts, the truth and the reality.....

Of the two groups...the democrats are the ones supporting violent murder, not the NRA...

Why don't you explain why they would not.

Because the democrats need school shootings....dead kids in schools give them massive power.....as we have seen.....if you prevent child deaths from gun accidents, and keep mass shooters away from schools, you keep kids from getting killed with guns...and then it is harder for democrats to push gun control.

The democrats keep letting violent gun criminals out of jail.....they need gun crime to push gun control since normal gun owners don't use their guns for crime or murder.

Don't be stupider than you have to be.

Nobody needs school shootings. Saying things like that makes you look like a retard.

Whose sock are you?

Oh, that's clever. Is lame accusations the best you can do my subnormal friend? You better give up now if so.