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Victor Davis Hanson on the disaster of the iran deal...appeasement never works..

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Victor Davis Hanson is a great writer and thinker...and his use of history to show how stupid this whole iran thing is, is just priceless...

The Way of All Appeasement - Victor Davis Hanson - Page 1


Second, the appeasement of autocrats always pulls the rug out from under domestic reformers and idealists. After the Western capitulation at Munich, no dissenter in Germany dared to question the ascendant dictatorship of Adolf Hitler.

Until last week, Iranian dissidents and reformers had blamed the theocracy for earning Iran pariah status abroad and economic ruin at home. Not now. The haughty ayatollahs are bragging that they faced down the West and will restore the economy -- as they wink to applauding crowds that Iran will soon be nuclear and dictate its terms to the Middle East.

Third, appeasers always wrongly insist that the only alternative to their foolish concessions is war. Just the opposite is true.

Time was not on Iran's side. Tehran was growing desperate for financial and commercial relief from global sanctions and embargoes. In contrast, the world had no such urgency and could have easily waited for a cash-strapped and ostracized Iran to give up on a bomb.

There were plenty of alternatives short of war in dealing with Hitler from 1936 to 1939, but none after. Expect that in five years Iran will be better armed, richer, more confident, more aggressive -- and nearly impossible to deter without the use of force.
 
Ronald Reagan-
" Admittedly, there's a risk in any course we follow other than this, but every lesson of history tells us that the greater risk lies in appeasement, and this is the specter our well-meaning liberal friends refuse to face—that their policy of accommodation is appeasement, and it gives no choice between peace and war, only between fight or surrender."
Didn't Reagan win the Cold War by appeasement?
 
Victor Davis Hanson is a great writer and thinker...and his use of history to show how stupid this whole iran thing is, is just priceless...

The Way of All Appeasement - Victor Davis Hanson - Page 1


Second, the appeasement of autocrats always pulls the rug out from under domestic reformers and idealists. After the Western capitulation at Munich, no dissenter in Germany dared to question the ascendant dictatorship of Adolf Hitler.

Until last week, Iranian dissidents and reformers had blamed the theocracy for earning Iran pariah status abroad and economic ruin at home. Not now. The haughty ayatollahs are bragging that they faced down the West and will restore the economy -- as they wink to applauding crowds that Iran will soon be nuclear and dictate its terms to the Middle East.

Third, appeasers always wrongly insist that the only alternative to their foolish concessions is war. Just the opposite is true.

Time was not on Iran's side. Tehran was growing desperate for financial and commercial relief from global sanctions and embargoes. In contrast, the world had no such urgency and could have easily waited for a cash-strapped and ostracized Iran to give up on a bomb.

There were plenty of alternatives short of war in dealing with Hitler from 1936 to 1939, but none after. Expect that in five years Iran will be better armed, richer, more confident, more aggressive -- and nearly impossible to deter without the use of force.

Yep.
 
Ronald Reagan-
" Admittedly, there's a risk in any course we follow other than this, but every lesson of history tells us that the greater risk lies in appeasement, and this is the specter our well-meaning liberal friends refuse to face—that their policy of accommodation is appeasement, and it gives no choice between peace and war, only between fight or surrender."
Didn't Reagan win the Cold War by appeasement?

So when did Reagan get that unconditional surrender from the USSR?
 
If you don't think any of his actions helped to collapse the USSR, then you haven't researched the issue well enough on your own, looking through the archives, etc.
Ronald Reagan-
" Admittedly, there's a risk in any course we follow other than this, but every lesson of history tells us that the greater risk lies in appeasement, and this is the specter our well-meaning liberal friends refuse to face—that their policy of accommodation is appeasement, and it gives no choice between peace and war, only between fight or surrender."
Didn't Reagan win the Cold War by appeasement?

So when did Reagan get that unconditional surrender from the USSR?
 

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