Wanna Be Black????

[Jantje_Smit]

...what would happen if a smaller percentage of blacks turned out:

One of the dreams of the compassionate conservatives....

 

[PoliticalChic]

...what would happen if a smaller percentage of blacks turned out:

One of the dreams of the compassionate conservatives....

No, it is the abject fear of you Liberals

 

[Jantje_Smit]

No, it is the abject fear of you Liberals

I already told you....... nah, never mind

You forgot to copy/paste something to prove your point btw

 

[PoliticalChic]

No, it is the abject fear of you Liberals

I already told you....... nah, never mind

You forgot to copy/paste something to prove your point btw

Why the fear of the method I choose to make the point?

Could it be that it's because you have no way to respond?

 

[Jantje_Smit]

Why the fear of the method I choose to make the point?

Could it be that it's because you have no way to respond?

Could it be you have no point at all?

Other than Ann Coulter and Ayn Rand are great, why won't evil libruls accept that

 

[NYcarbineer]

Now....about that Affirmative Action....

4. That was two and a half generations ago. The poverty rate in America is elastically close to what it was when Johnson followed up with the "War on Poverty."

"All this spending has not bought an appreciable reduction in poverty. … the poverty rate has remained relatively constant since 1965, despite rising welfare spending. In fact, the only appreciable decline occurred in the 1990s, a time of
state experimentation with tightening welfare eligibility, culminating in the passage of national welfare reform (the Personal Responsibility and Work Responsibility Act of 1996). And, since 2006, poverty rates have risen despite a massive increase in spending. Census Bureau, “Table 5–Percent of People
by Ratio of Income to Poverty Level: 1970–2010,”
Poverty Data - U.S Census Bureau historical/hstpov5.xls.
The American Welfare State
How We Spend Nearly $1 Trillion a Year Fighting Poverty—and Fail
by Michael Tanner
Scribd

Do you know how they calculate the poverty rate in the US?

They do not include the non-cash benefits that low income households receive.

Do you know what that means?

It means that most of the benefits of the so-called war on poverty, that actually make people less poor, are not counted when the poverty rate is calculated.

Let this article from FORBES explain it to you:

The True US Poverty Rate Is 4.5 Not 14.5

Now you have something new to exercise the denialist portion of your so-called brain.

 

[jon_berzerk]

.....

a. " Prior to 1957, LBJ “had never supported civil rights legislation- any civil rights legislation. !

Prior to 1957, Ronald Reagan was a liberal FDR Democrat. By your 'reasoning', Reagan must have never been a conservative later in life.

Gads, you'll do anything to avoid facing the painful truth.....
I haven’t seen such contortions since you gave birth to yourself.



The Democrat have always been segregationists and racists...

LBJ ".... even against bills that would have protected blacks from lynching.”

they still are today

to them everyone is viewed

by their

-race

-sex

-economic status

then lumped into various groups

 

[PoliticalChic]

5. In reality, the Liberals/Democrats never had any intention of seeing black Americans standing up on their own, full-fledged Americans competing and succeeding.


While talking a great game, it is well known by all, except liberals in general, and the Black community specifically, that the Democrat Party claims to be concerned with support of blacks, their record with respect to black politicians tells a different story…


a. In 2005, the Democrats did not name Donna Brazile, who is black, to head the Democratic National Committee. They chose Howard Dean....white.


b. “Gov. David A. Paterson, black, defiantly vowed to run for election next year despite the White House‘s urging that he withdraw from the New York governor’s race.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html


c. . President Barack Obama has kept mum on the fate of Rep. Charles Rangel (D-NY) for days -- but he tells CBS News that it's time for the embattled 80-year-old former Ways and Means Chairman to end his career "with dignity."

"I think Charlie Rangel served a very long time and served-- his constituents very well. But these-- allegations are very troubling," Obama told Harry Smith in an interview to be aired on the "Early Show." and first broadcast on the CBS Evening News with Katie Couric. Obama Time for Rangel to end career with dignity - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com
Very different from the manner in which Democrats circled the wagons around racist Bill Clinton, who honored and supported segregationists his entire life.



d. Harold Ford, black, told not to run for Senator from New York:
“From the start, Mr. Ford’s potential candidacy angered national Democratic Party leaders by disrupting plans for what was planned as a seamless Gillibrand, white, nomination. Harry Reid of Nevada, the Senate majority leader, called Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg to discourage him from supporting Mr. Ford, and Senator Charles E. Schumer of New York met personally with Mr. Ford to argue against his candidacy.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/02/nyregion/02ford.html


e. “As state comptroller, [Carl] McCall earned the distinction of being the first African American ever elected to a statewide office in New York. Four years later voters overwhelmingly supported McCall over Republican Bruce Blakeman 64.75 to 32.1%. McCall's reelection in 1998 may have given him the confidence he needed in order to pursue the governor's mansion….The McCall campaign had the support of the Democratic Party; whether or not McCall had the party's full support has been the subject of much debate….Still one wonders just how committed the party was to McCall's campaign….shunned by some of the state's most respected Democrats…McCall blamed his money woes on the national Democratic Party, claiming that the party had abandoned his campaign….” H. Carl McCall for Governor a lesson to all black high-profile statewide office seekers. - Free Online Library



f. And, most telling, Bill Clinton’s remarks about the black candidate for the presidency:
“[A]s Hillary bungled Caroline, Bill’s handling of Ted [Kennedy] was even worse. The day after Iowa, he phoned Kennedy and pressed for an endorsement, making the case for his wife. But Bill then went on, belittling Obama in a manner that deeply offended Kennedy. Recounting the conversation later to a friend, Teddy fumed that Clinton had said, A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee.”
Teddy s anger - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com



g. Three staffers working for embattled Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.), black, were asked by security officers to leave an event in downtown Washington on Thursday after they tried to display large campaign signs just as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) was about to speak. .. Waters told The Hill afterward that the staffers had been displaying the signs at the annual legislative conference for the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation, which was held at the Washington convention center a few blocks away. “It ain’t about Nancy. It’s about black people,” Waters said.
Waters aides expelled from Pelosi event TheHill


h. And what Governor of Arkansas made the Saturday before Easter "Confederate Flag Day"?
The Arkansas Code, Section 1-5-107. Confederate Flag Day.
(a) The Saturday immediately preceding Easter Sunday of each year is designated as "Confederate Flag Day" in this state.
No person, firm, or corporation shall display any Confederate flag or replica thereof in connection with any advertisement of any commercial enterprise, or in any manner for any purpose except to honor the Confederate States of America.
Any person, firm, or corporation violating the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction shall be fined not less than one hundred dollars ($100) nor more than one thousand dollars ($1,000).
"In April 1985, Governor Bill Clinton signed Act 985 into law...'
Mark R. Levin on Trent Lott & Moral Outrage on National Review Online



i. Do Democrats in Congress support blacks by practicing affirmative action in their hiring…and of course this would be our of moral convictions, as they are legally exempt from affirmative action requirements. More than passing interesting, the ‘National Journal,’ a survey of congressional staffers revealed that Democrats hired black employees at the same rate as Republicans: 2 percent. “The Racial Breakdown of Congressional Staffs,” National Journal, June 21, 2005
Schweitzer, “
Schweitzer, "Do As I Say (Not As I Do): Profiles in Liberal Hypocrisy," p. 9.




j. Clinton pushed black candidate to drop out of Florida race:
“Bill Clinton sought to persuade Rep. Kendrick Meek to drop out of the race for Senate during a trip to Florida last week — and nearly succeeded…Clinton did not dangle a job in front of Meek, who gave up a safe House seat to run for the Senate, but instead made the case that the move would advance the congressman’s future prospects, said a third Democrat familiar with the conversations. Clinton campaigned with Meek in Florida on Oct. 19 and 20, and thought he had won Meek over. But as the week wore on, Meek lost his enthusiasm for the arrangement, spurred in part, a third Democratic source said, by his wife’s belief that he could still win the race. Clinton spoke with Meek again at week’s end, three Democrats said, and again Meek said he would drop out.” Bill Clinton pushed Kendrick Meek to quit Florida race - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com


By some strange coincidence, the Democrats, again, force a black to the back:
k. “Under an arrangement reached two days ago, Steny Hoyer (white) of Maryland, the current majority leader, would get the No. 2 job of minority whip come January. Clyburn, black, now majority whip, would hold the post of assistant leader, newly created for the purpose of heading off a contest for the whip position.” Bloomberg Business



Rule of Life: Reality is defined by actions, no by words.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Why the fear of the method I choose to make the point?

Could it be that it's because you have no way to respond?

Could it be you have no point at all?

Other than Ann Coulter and Ayn Rand are great, why won't evil libruls accept that

"Could it be you have no point at all?"

Yet....here you are attempting to counter "no point at all."

Could it be you're a Liberal?

 

[NYcarbineer]

a. In 2005, the Democrats did not name Donna Brazile, who is black, to head the Democratic National Committee. They chose Howard Dean....white.


.

Howard Dean was much better qualified, and in fact proved his talent with the success of the 50 state strategy and the 2006 Democratic landslide.

NOW you are trying to criticize the Democrats for having chosen the best qualified person for the job, regardless of race or gender?

Make up (what passes for) your mind.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Lyndon Johnson became a liberal and died of a heart attack.

Ronald Reagan became a conservative and died of brain damage.

Lyndon Johnson became a liberal and died of a heart attack.

An oxymoron

Ronald Reagan became a conservative and died of brain damage.

Yes, because Alzheimers is just SO funny.

Oh my are you OFFENDED? By a joke?

You should go read some of PoliticalChic's pontifications on the evils of being so easily offended.

 

[NYcarbineer]

....


Lyndon Johnson, speaking at Howard University, in June of 1965, made the succinct and unassailable argument in favor of Affirmative Action, as follows:

"You do not take a man who for years has been hobbled by chains, liberate him, bring him to the starting line of a race, saying, "you are free to compete with all the others," and still justly believe you have been completely fair... This is the next and more profound stage of the battle for civil rights. We seek not just freedom but opportunity—not just legal equity but human ability—not just equality as a right and a theory, but equality as a fact and as a result."

So what exactly is the problem with the reasoning behind that statement?

In your own words.

 

[PoliticalChic]

a. In 2005, the Democrats did not name Donna Brazile, who is black, to head the Democratic National Committee. They chose Howard Dean....white.


.

Howard Dean was much better qualified, and in fact proved his talent with the success of the 50 state strategy and the 2006 Democratic landslide.

NOW you are trying to criticize the Democrats for having chosen the best qualified person for the job, regardless of race or gender?

Make up (what passes for) your mind.

Howard Dean.....white

Donna Brazile....black




Let's remind all of the Democrat's commitment to advancing black Americans:

Remember Mark Lloyd, who was chosen by President Obama as the Federal Communications Commission (FCC)'s Chief Diversity Officer, a.k.a. the Diversity Czar?
"This... there's nothing more difficult than this. Because we have really, truly good white people in important positions. And the fact of the matter is that there are a limited number of those positions. And unless we are conscious of the need to have more people of color, gays, other people in those positions we will not change the problem.

We're in a position where you have to say who is going to step down so someone else can have power."
Audio FCC s Diversity Czar White People Need to be Forced to Step Down So Someone Else Can Have Power



You make this soooooo darn easy!

 

[NYcarbineer]

a. In 2005, the Democrats did not name Donna Brazile, who is black, to head the Democratic National Committee. They chose Howard Dean....white.


.

Howard Dean was much better qualified, and in fact proved his talent with the success of the 50 state strategy and the 2006 Democratic landslide.

NOW you are trying to criticize the Democrats for having chosen the best qualified person for the job, regardless of race or gender?

Make up (what passes for) your mind.

Howard Dean.....white

Donna Brazile....black




Let's remind all of the Democrat's commitment to advancing black Americans:

Remember Mark Lloyd, who was chosen by President Obama as the Federal Communications Commission (FCC)'s Chief Diversity Officer, a.k.a. the Diversity Czar?
"This... there's nothing more difficult than this. Because we have really, truly good white people in important positions. And the fact of the matter is that there are a limited number of those positions. And unless we are conscious of the need to have more people of color, gays, other people in those positions we will not change the problem.

We're in a position where you have to say who is going to step down so someone else can have power."
Audio FCC s Diversity Czar White People Need to be Forced to Step Down So Someone Else Can Have Power



You make this soooooo darn easy!

You refuted your own accusation. Very amusing.

 

[Auld Phart]

Lyndon Johnson became a liberal and died of a heart attack.

Ronald Reagan became a conservative and died of brain damage.

Lyndon Johnson became a liberal and died of a heart attack.

An oxymoron

Ronald Reagan became a conservative and died of brain damage.

Yes, because Alzheimers is just SO funny.

Oh my are you OFFENDED? By a joke?

You should go read some of PoliticalChic's pontifications on the evils of being so easily offended.

Oh my are you OFFENDED?

I do find disparaging remarks about Alzheimers and cancer to be offensive, yes.

By a joke?

no, you don't offend me much at all.

 

[danielpalos]

I sometimes have high hopes and pipe dreams about getting some affirmative action for a Mandingo party.

 

[NYcarbineer]

a. In 2005, the Democrats did not name Donna Brazile, who is black, to head the Democratic National Committee. They chose Howard Dean....white.


.

Howard Dean was much better qualified, and in fact proved his talent with the success of the 50 state strategy and the 2006 Democratic landslide.

NOW you are trying to criticize the Democrats for having chosen the best qualified person for the job, regardless of race or gender?

Make up (what passes for) your mind.

Howard Dean.....white

Donna Brazile....black




Let's remind all of the Democrat's commitment to advancing black Americans:

Remember Mark Lloyd, who was chosen by President Obama as the Federal Communications Commission (FCC)'s Chief Diversity Officer, a.k.a. the Diversity Czar?
"This... there's nothing more difficult than this. Because we have really, truly good white people in important positions. And the fact of the matter is that there are a limited number of those positions. And unless we are conscious of the need to have more people of color, gays, other people in those positions we will not change the problem.

We're in a position where you have to say who is going to step down so someone else can have power."
Audio FCC s Diversity Czar White People Need to be Forced to Step Down So Someone Else Can Have Power



You make this soooooo darn easy!

You try to manufacture an argument premised on the Democrats having been wrong if they selected Brazile,

and wrong if they selected Dean.

That is called a heads I win tails you lose fallacy.

 

[PoliticalChic]

....


Lyndon Johnson, speaking at Howard University, in June of 1965, made the succinct and unassailable argument in favor of Affirmative Action, as follows:

"You do not take a man who for years has been hobbled by chains, liberate him, bring him to the starting line of a race, saying, "you are free to compete with all the others," and still justly believe you have been completely fair... This is the next and more profound stage of the battle for civil rights. We seek not just freedom but opportunity—not just legal equity but human ability—not just equality as a right and a theory, but equality as a fact and as a result."

So what exactly is the problem with the reasoning behind that statement?

In your own words.

So....now you're gonna take pride in your lack of understanding vocabulary?


From the OP:

Lyndon Johnson, speaking at Howard University, in June of 1965, made the succinct and unassailable argument in favor of Affirmative Action, as follows:

"You do not take a man who for years has been hobbled by chains, liberate him, bring him to the starting line of a race, saying, "you are free to compete with all the others," and still justly believe you have been completely fair... This is the next and more profound stage of the battle for civil rights. We seek not just freedom but opportunity—not just legal equity but human ability—not just equality as a right and a theory, but equality as a fact and as a result."


"...the succinct and unassailable argument in favor of Affirmative Action...":



And, I point out, via experience.....it, as is true of so very many Liberal endeavors....has been a terrible flop.



Let's remind all:
1) Liberals are impulsive, and imprudent. They believe in quick changes, and risk new abuses worse than the ‘evils’ that they would sweep away, since remedies are usually not simple. Plato said that prudence is the mark of the statesman. There should be a balance between permanence and change, while liberals see ‘progress’ as some mythical direction for society.
It's brilliant, huh?


2." It was the misfortune of black Americans that they were just on the verge of passing through the immigrant experience when damaging ideas about welfare and the lenient attitude about crime took hold. It could have happened to the Italians, Germans, Jews or Irish, but luckily for them, there were no Liberals around to “help” when they arrived."
Coulter

 

[PoliticalChic]

a. In 2005, the Democrats did not name Donna Brazile, who is black, to head the Democratic National Committee. They chose Howard Dean....white.


.

Howard Dean was much better qualified, and in fact proved his talent with the success of the 50 state strategy and the 2006 Democratic landslide.

NOW you are trying to criticize the Democrats for having chosen the best qualified person for the job, regardless of race or gender?

Make up (what passes for) your mind.

Howard Dean.....white

Donna Brazile....black




Let's remind all of the Democrat's commitment to advancing black Americans:

Remember Mark Lloyd, who was chosen by President Obama as the Federal Communications Commission (FCC)'s Chief Diversity Officer, a.k.a. the Diversity Czar?
"This... there's nothing more difficult than this. Because we have really, truly good white people in important positions. And the fact of the matter is that there are a limited number of those positions. And unless we are conscious of the need to have more people of color, gays, other people in those positions we will not change the problem.

We're in a position where you have to say who is going to step down so someone else can have power."
Audio FCC s Diversity Czar White People Need to be Forced to Step Down So Someone Else Can Have Power



You make this soooooo darn easy!

You try to manufacture an argument premised on the Democrats having been wrong if they selected Brazile,

and wrong if they selected Dean.

That is called a heads I win tails you lose fallacy.

I didn't say it.....a Democrat totalitarian said it.


We're in a position where you have to say who is going to step down so someone else can have power."
Audio FCC s Diversity Czar White People Need to be Forced to Step Down So Someone Else Can Have Power

 

[NYcarbineer]

Lyndon Johnson became a liberal and died of a heart attack.

Ronald Reagan became a conservative and died of brain damage.

Lyndon Johnson became a liberal and died of a heart attack.

An oxymoron

Ronald Reagan became a conservative and died of brain damage.

Yes, because Alzheimers is just SO funny.

Oh my are you OFFENDED? By a joke?

You should go read some of PoliticalChic's pontifications on the evils of being so easily offended.

Oh my are you OFFENDED?

I do find disparaging remarks about Alzheimers and cancer to be offensive, yes.

By a joke?

no, you don't offend me much at all.

Put me on ignore.