Was the Civil War fought over slavery?

The nuts will still pretend otherwise.

I don't know how though, you really can't get any clearer than "our new government was founded on slavery"....
 
Personally I think it was more about State's rights than slavery.

But slavery was a part of it.
 
This has been argued numerous times on these forums. I saw this and thought I would add it to the evidence.



Colonel Ty Seidule is the head of the history dept at the United States Military Academy at West Point.


By the way- I don't normally care for Youtube video's- but this guy is the real deal. Worth listening to.
 
Yes. But not how you think.

SOUTH: Rich whites owned the slaves. They made up 3% of the South. They also owned the newspapers. They brainwashed many poor farmers to think they were fighting a just war. They werent. Sad. That's what the battle flag reps for SOME Southern whites: being duped and sacrificed to fight for the rich man. But it was about slaves.


NORTH: Abe Lincoln wanted to deport all blacks. Wanted them sent to work in South American and colonies for American interests (Google it. It's true). BUT....the 4th Amendment prevented this....because slaves were property...not citizens. He needed to free the slaves so they could be deportable.



In short....rich Southerners wanted blacks as slaves. Rich Northerners wanted blacks deported. We fought a war over it. Lincoln got shot after victory and never succeeded with his deportation plan. Much like Iraq....the war aftermath didn't go as planned despite winning.


That's it. Ugly on all sides.
 
Abraham Lincoln tried to deport slaves to British colonies Daily Mail Online

The Britt uncovered this in archives. Lincoln wanted blacks freed so he could deport them. As property...he couldn't due to the 4th amendment. So...he freed them....and was killed before the deportation plan unfolded.

Lincoln was a man who despised blacks.
Nearly a decade later, even as he edited the draft of the preliminary Emancipation Proclamation in August of 1862, Lincoln hosted a delegation of freed slaves at the White House in the hopes of getting their support on a plan for colonization in Central America. Given the “differences” between the two races and the hostile attitudes of whites towards blacks, Lincoln argued, it would be “better for us both, therefore, to be separated.” Lincoln’s support of colonization provoked great anger among black leaders and abolitionists, who argued that African-Americans were as much natives of the country as whites, and thus deserved the same rights. After he issued the preliminary Emancipation Proclamation, Lincoln never again publicly mentioned colonization, and a mention of it in an earlier draft was deleted by the time the final proclamation was issued in January 1863.

5 Things You May Not Know About Lincoln Slavery and Emancipation History in the Headlines
 
Was the Civil War fought over slavery?
Cards on table:
I'm a native New Yorker. A "dame Yankee" by standards that prevail South of the Mason Dixie.

What is commonly referred to in the North as "THE Civil War" is often referred to in the South as "The War of Northern Aggression".

That's fine!
They can call it whatever they want.

BUT !!

IF !!!
they call it "The War of Northern Aggression" that loads the burden for the REASON for the War on the North!

That being the case:
- The South can blame who started it,

OR

- The South can designate what the War was about.

BUT !!!

The South can't have it both ways!

So PICK one!
 
How could the war be about slavery when BOTH sides practiced slavery?. Yes - the Union had 4 slave states of its own, (ky md mo de) with a total of 400,000 slaves. The idea that lincoln wanted to free the slaves is absurd in light of that fact.

History is written by the victors and so, after the war, the North started the myth that they invaded the south to free the slaves.
 
The war started over secession and the protection of the slavocracy was the reason for secession. That`s it.
 
Slavery was only part of it. Those who push agendas like this one are doing just that, pushing an agenda.
See, the union wanted blacks to be counted as 3/5 of a person, which is why they were relegated to segregated locales in the north.
Blacks were treated badly in either case so no one has a moral high ground on this. Lincoln didn't even create the emancipation proclamation until the war was already three years in.
This is just another attempt to make excuses for the failure of recent crops of blacks and deflect blame from democrat policies.
 
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How could the war be about slavery when BOTH sides practiced slavery?. Yes - the Union had 4 slave states of its own, (ky md mo de) with a total of 400,000 slaves. The idea that lincoln wanted to free the slaves is absurd in light of that fact.

History is written by the victors and so, after the war, the North started the myth that they invaded the south to free the slaves.

Right. The PhD head of the history dept at the United States Military Academy at West Point is wrong and you're right.
 
How could the war be about slavery when BOTH sides practiced slavery?. Yes - the Union had 4 slave states of its own, (ky md mo de) with a total of 400,000 slaves. The idea that lincoln wanted to free the slaves is absurd in light of that fact.

History is written by the victors and so, after the war, the North started the myth that they invaded the south to free the slaves.
And don't forget that the red and white colors of the Maryland flag were used as the banner for MD secessionists. That means that those colors need to be removed from the flag and all MD sports teams, etc.
 
Personally I think it was more about State's rights than slavery.

But slavery was a part of it.

It was about the State's wanting to protect 'their rights' to own human property.

Exactly right. It was a 4th Amendment war. Lincoln wanted all blacks deported...but couldn't seize them because they were considered property of US citizens.

No- Lincoln never advocated the involuntary deportation of blacks- he proposed a plan for voluntary resettlement of American blacks to Africa and was surprised when he found out that they no more wanted to return to Africa than English Americans wanted to return to the place their ancestors came from 200 years before
 
Yes. But not how you think.

SOUTH: Rich whites owned the slaves. They made up 3% of the South. They also owned the newspapers. They brainwashed many poor farmers to think they were fighting a just war. They werent. Sad. That's what the battle flag reps for SOME Southern whites: being duped and sacrificed to fight for the rich man. But it was about slaves.


NORTH: Abe Lincoln wanted to deport all blacks. Wanted them sent to work in South American and colonies for American interests (Google it. It's true). BUT....the 4th Amendment prevented this....because slaves were property...not citizens. He needed to free the slaves so they could be deportable.



In short....rich Southerners wanted blacks as slaves. Rich Northerners wanted blacks deported. We fought a war over it. Lincoln got shot after victory and never succeeded with his deportation plan. Much like Iraq....the war aftermath didn't go as planned despite winning.


That's it. Ugly on all sides.

Please provide the details of that 'deportation plan'.
 
How could the war be about slavery when BOTH sides practiced slavery?. Yes - the Union had 4 slave states of its own, (ky md mo de) with a total of 400,000 slaves. The idea that lincoln wanted to free the slaves is absurd in light of that fact.

History is written by the victors and so, after the war, the North started the myth that they invaded the south to free the slaves.

No one is saying that the United States fought the rebel states to free the slaves.

The Rebel states rebelled to protect their slave property.
 

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