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Couldn't have been the AM radio crowd making mountains out of molehills during an off cycle election, could it?
Partisanship goes two ways, my friend.
Partisanship goes two ways, my friend.
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Obama, 2009: Now that progress has been made, he said, "we can't have special interests sitting shotgun. We gotta have middle class families up in front. We don't mind the Republicans joining us. They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."
South Dakota Politics: Obama Sends Republicans to the back of the bus
The Democrats behaved terribly in 2009, from Pelosi's "we won" to Obama's "they gotta sit in back" to the non-stop spiking of the ball by the media and the pundits and the partisans. Then they paid the price in 2010.
Anyone who denies that is, well, in partisan denial.
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Obama, 2009: Now that progress has been made, he said, "we can't have special interests sitting shotgun. We gotta have middle class families up in front. We don't mind the Republicans joining us. They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."
South Dakota Politics: Obama Sends Republicans to the back of the bus
The Democrats behaved terribly in 2009, from Pelosi's "we won" to Obama's "they gotta sit in back" to the non-stop spiking of the ball by the media and the pundits and the partisans. Then they paid the price in 2010.
Anyone who denies that is, well, in partisan denial.
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You'd have a point if that is what was said. It wasn't. Pelosi clearly stated that the preference would be to have Republican support.
The President never told Republicans to sit at the back of the bus. He was using a "drive the car" analogy saying that the GOP isn't in the drivers seat. Not the same as saying "get to the back of the bus".
We're divided because we have two major groups in this nation that do NOT share the same visions, dreams, out look on life, sense of personal responisibilty, values or morals and are too far apart on these things to ever find the common ground needed to work together. I fear it will eventually lead to serious bloodshed in this nation not seen since the War of Northern Aggression.
We've always had major differences in vision.
The difference is, in the past we've had "leaders" who were able to work through them by working together.
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We're divided because we have two major groups in this nation that do NOT share the same visions, dreams, out look on life, sense of personal responisibilty, values or morals and are too far apart on these things to ever find the common ground needed to work together. I fear it will eventually lead to serious bloodshed in this nation not seen since the War of Northern Aggression.
We're divided because of people like you.
Well at least the leftist scum in this nation are.
If a Defense Department instructor dares to say the country is at war with Islam, he will swiftly find himself out of a job. On the other hand, stereotyping white people as racists or saying the American dream is a myth is rewarded with a diploma.
what led you to choose to become a professional douchepickle?
We're divided because we have two major groups in this nation that do NOT share the same visions, dreams, out look on life, sense of personal responisibilty, values or morals and are too far apart on these things to ever find the common ground needed to work together. I fear it will eventually lead to serious bloodshed in this nation not seen since the War of Northern Aggression.
We're divided because of people like you.
Yup, because I detest the values and morals people like you hold, not to mention the fact that I detest the direction you wish to take my nation. THAT'S MY POINT DUMBASS
We've always had major differences in vision.
The difference is, in the past we've had "leaders" who were able to work through them by working together.
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So for the record, you condemn Pelosi saying she wasn't considering Republican ideas because "we won" and Obama saying Republicans can sit "in the back of the bus?"
Gee, maybe we're so divided because people misrepresent what others say.
Pelosi's comment in regards to the Stimulus was:
Yes, we wrote the bill. Yes we won the election, but that doesnt mean we dont want sustainability or Republican support,
But the RW media bubble whittled it down to "we won, suck it".
As to the second, provide the quote.
We're divided because of people like you.
Yup, because I detest the values and morals people like you hold, not to mention the fact that I detest the direction you wish to take my nation. THAT'S MY POINT DUMBASS
Yeah, well that's just too fucking bad about you and your high minded values and morals now isn't it.
No, they aren't. They aren't examples at all. Pelosi didn't say "we won, suck it" and the President NEVER told Republicans to get in the back of the bus.
Republicans on the other hand did say that their number one goal was to make President Obama a one term President. That's not divisive at all though...
Should the Republican's goal be to get Obama re-elected?
No, their number one goal should have been working together to serve the American people.
We're divided because of people like you.
Yup, because I detest the values and morals people like you hold, not to mention the fact that I detest the direction you wish to take my nation. THAT'S MY POINT DUMBASS
Yeah, well that's just too fucking bad about you and your high minded values and morals now isn't it.
Yup, because I detest the values and morals people like you hold, not to mention the fact that I detest the direction you wish to take my nation. THAT'S MY POINT DUMBASS
Yeah, well that's just too fucking bad about you and your high minded values and morals now isn't it.
In other words, the only way to deal with people like you is to defeat you.
We've always had major differences in vision.
The difference is, in the past we've had "leaders" who were able to work through them by working together.
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So for the record, you condemn Pelosi saying she wasn't considering Republican ideas because "we won" and Obama saying Republicans can sit "in the back of the bus?"
Yes, the Dems' behavior in 2009/2010 earned them their losses in 2010, and those are two good examples.
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Obama, 2009: Now that progress has been made, he said, "we can't have special interests sitting shotgun. We gotta have middle class families up in front. We don't mind the Republicans joining us. They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."
South Dakota Politics: Obama Sends Republicans to the back of the bus
The Democrats behaved terribly in 2009, from Pelosi's "we won" to Obama's "they gotta sit in back" to the non-stop spiking of the ball by the media and the pundits and the partisans. Then they paid the price in 2010.
Anyone who denies that is, well, in partisan denial.
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You'd have a point if that is what was said. It wasn't. Pelosi clearly stated that the preference would be to have Republican support.
The President never told Republicans to sit at the back of the bus. He was using a "drive the car" analogy saying that the GOP isn't in the drivers seat. Not the same as saying "get to the back of the bus".
I didn't bring up the "back of the bus" comment, and I agree he didn't say it. But what he said meant precisely the same thing. I pretty clearly remember the sentiment (not quotes) being "we won, you lost, too bad", which was disappointing because I was hopeful about the legislative mix, at least at the time.
But after they acted that way, I didn't blame the GOP for being pissed. I think the Republicans sure as hell took it too far, but the Dems were acting this way pretty much right off the bat.
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My "sig" rings more true every day.
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Obama, 2009: Now that progress has been made, he said, "we can't have special interests sitting shotgun. We gotta have middle class families up in front. We don't mind the Republicans joining us. They can come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back."
South Dakota Politics: Obama Sends Republicans to the back of the bus
The Democrats behaved terribly in 2009, from Pelosi's "we won" to Obama's "they gotta sit in back" to the non-stop spiking of the ball by the media and the pundits and the partisans. Then they paid the price in 2010.
Anyone who denies that is, well, in partisan denial.
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You'd have a point if that is what was said. It wasn't. Pelosi clearly stated that the preference would be to have Republican support.
The President never told Republicans to sit at the back of the bus. He was using a "drive the car" analogy saying that the GOP isn't in the drivers seat. Not the same as saying "get to the back of the bus".
I didn't bring up the "back of the bus" comment, and I agree he didn't say it. But what he said meant precisely the same thing. I pretty clearly remember the sentiment (not quotes) being "we won, you lost, too bad", which was disappointing because I was hopeful about the legislative mix, at least at the time.
But after they acted that way, I didn't blame the GOP for being pissed. I think the Republicans sure as hell took it too far, but the Dems were acting this way pretty much right off the bat.
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We're divided because we have two major groups in this nation that do NOT share the same visions, dreams, out look on life, sense of personal responisibilty, values or morals and are too far apart on these things to ever find the common ground needed to work together. I fear it will eventually lead to serious bloodshed in this nation not seen since the War of Northern Aggression.
Buddy boy, you guys started that little dust up. And we finished it. The Union was preserved, for the betterment of all.
As far as the bloodshed that you keep wishing for, is that what Jesus is telling you to wish for? Who do you plan to shoot in the name of Christ?
You'd have a point if that is what was said. It wasn't. Pelosi clearly stated that the preference would be to have Republican support.
The President never told Republicans to sit at the back of the bus. He was using a "drive the car" analogy saying that the GOP isn't in the drivers seat. Not the same as saying "get to the back of the bus".
I didn't bring up the "back of the bus" comment, and I agree he didn't say it. But what he said meant precisely the same thing. I pretty clearly remember the sentiment (not quotes) being "we won, you lost, too bad", which was disappointing because I was hopeful about the legislative mix, at least at the time.
But after they acted that way, I didn't blame the GOP for being pissed. I think the Republicans sure as hell took it too far, but the Dems were acting this way pretty much right off the bat.
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No, it doesn't mean the same thing. Saying "you don't get to drive the car" is not the same as saying "get to the back of the bus, n-word".
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Our biggest enemies are the Americans who have a vested interest in keeping us angry at each other and absolutely divided. Those whose "followers" buy into their simplistic absolutism, that "we" can never work with "them", that "we" must defeat "them". These people are creating an artificial egotism in their "followers" that is suffocating the very processes that made America great.
It's not a coincidence that America is sinking as these people are succeeding.
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