We should all be greatful for socialism/liberalism

[kaz]

If Big Business had its way In the early to mid 20th century...

There would be no "days off" for low level employees.

There would be no overtime pay.

There would be no minimum wage

If it wasn't for socialism...

We would have no military, police, firefighters...hell the list goes on and on.

Today is Thank a Socialist Day...

Let the rest of us do our part and educate Republicans on What Socialism really means.

Lord praise the government, source of all tidings great and small!

Does the Kool-aid give you an actual buzz or is it more of a numbing sensation?

You know I'm right.

Um ... I know you're right that people are nothing and we can't negotiate our own best deals, government solves our problems for us? Actually, I know you're wrong. Government makes every situation they get involved with worse

 

[Billy000]

If Big Business had its way In the early to mid 20th century...

There would be no "days off" for low level employees.

There would be no overtime pay.

There would be no minimum wage

If it wasn't for socialism...

We would have no military, police, firefighters...hell the list goes on and on.

Today is Thank a Socialist Day...

Let the rest of us do our part and educate Republicans on What Socialism really means.

Lord praise the government, source of all tidings great and small!

Does the Kool-aid give you an actual buzz or is it more of a numbing sensation?

You know I'm right.

Um ... I know you're right that people are nothing and we can't negotiate our own best deals, government solves our problems for us? Actually, I know you're wrong. Government makes every situation they get involved with worse

Without some basic level of law and order, people could use violence instead of negotiation to get what they want.

 

[Skull Pilot]

If Big Business had its way In the early to mid 20th century...

There would be no "days off" for low level employees.

There would be no overtime pay.

There would be no minimum wage

If it wasn't for socialism...

We would have no military, police, firefighters...hell the list goes on and on.

Today is Thank a Socialist Day...

Let the rest of us do our part and educate Republicans on What Socialism really means.

Lord praise the government, source of all tidings great and small!

Does the Kool-aid give you an actual buzz or is it more of a numbing sensation?

You know I'm right.

Um ... I know you're right that people are nothing and we can't negotiate our own best deals, government solves our problems for us? Actually, I know you're wrong. Government makes every situation they get involved with worse

Without some basic level of law and order, people could use violence instead of negotiation to get what they want.

You think all those Union protests of the past that you are so fond of weren't violent?

 

[jillian]

If Big Business had its way In the early to mid 20th century...

There would be no "days off" for low level employees.

There would be no overtime pay.

There would be no minimum wage

If it wasn't for socialism...

We would have no military, police, firefighters...hell the list goes on and on.

Today is Thank a Socialist Day...

Let the rest of us do our part and educate Republicans on What Socialism really means.

liberalism does not equate to socialism. and i understand what you're saying but the wingers aren't smart enough to understand we've had a mixed economic system forever.

but i hear ya.

 

[Billy000]

If Big Business had its way In the early to mid 20th century...

There would be no "days off" for low level employees.

There would be no overtime pay.

There would be no minimum wage

If it wasn't for socialism...

We would have no military, police, firefighters...hell the list goes on and on.

Today is Thank a Socialist Day...

Let the rest of us do our part and educate Republicans on What Socialism really means.

Lord praise the government, source of all tidings great and small!

Does the Kool-aid give you an actual buzz or is it more of a numbing sensation?

You know I'm right.

Um ... I know you're right that people are nothing and we can't negotiate our own best deals, government solves our problems for us? Actually, I know you're wrong. Government makes every situation they get involved with worse

Without some basic level of law and order, people could use violence instead of negotiation to get what they want.

You think all those Union protests of the past that you are so fond of weren't violent?

Lol people are people. What difference does it make if it happened at Union protests? How does that possibly devalue the need for law and order?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Lord praise the government, source of all tidings great and small!

Does the Kool-aid give you an actual buzz or is it more of a numbing sensation?

You know I'm right.

Um ... I know you're right that people are nothing and we can't negotiate our own best deals, government solves our problems for us? Actually, I know you're wrong. Government makes every situation they get involved with worse

Without some basic level of law and order, people could use violence instead of negotiation to get what they want.

You think all those Union protests of the past that you are so fond of weren't violent?

Lol people are people. What difference does it make if it happened at Union protests? How does that possibly devalue the need for law and order?

I said nothing about law and order but you certainly seem to be looking at the past with rose colored glasses

 

[Billy000]

If Big Business had its way In the early to mid 20th century...

There would be no "days off" for low level employees.

There would be no overtime pay.

There would be no minimum wage

If it wasn't for socialism...

We would have no military, police, firefighters...hell the list goes on and on.

Today is Thank a Socialist Day...

Let the rest of us do our part and educate Republicans on What Socialism really means.

liberalism does not equate to socialism. and i understand what you're saying but the wingers aren't smart enough to understand we've had a mixed economic system forever.

but i hear ya.

I know there's a difference. The first half of my post is addressing liberalism specifically.

 

[Billy000]

You know I'm right.

Um ... I know you're right that people are nothing and we can't negotiate our own best deals, government solves our problems for us? Actually, I know you're wrong. Government makes every situation they get involved with worse

Without some basic level of law and order, people could use violence instead of negotiation to get what they want.

You think all those Union protests of the past that you are so fond of weren't violent?

Lol people are people. What difference does it make if it happened at Union protests? How does that possibly devalue the need for law and order?

I said nothing about law and order but you certainly seem to be looking at the past with rose colored glasses

Lol again what difference does it make if Union protests got violent? So what?

 

[Skull Pilot]

Um ... I know you're right that people are nothing and we can't negotiate our own best deals, government solves our problems for us? Actually, I know you're wrong. Government makes every situation they get involved with worse

Without some basic level of law and order, people could use violence instead of negotiation to get what they want.

You think all those Union protests of the past that you are so fond of weren't violent?

Lol people are people. What difference does it make if it happened at Union protests? How does that possibly devalue the need for law and order?

I said nothing about law and order but you certainly seem to be looking at the past with rose colored glasses

Lol again what difference does it make if Union protests got violent? So what?

Didn't you just say that it's undesirable for people to use violence instead of negotiating?

But I suppose you think violence is OK if it's end is something you want right?

 

[jillian]

If Big Business had its way In the early to mid 20th century...

There would be no "days off" for low level employees.

There would be no overtime pay.

There would be no minimum wage

If it wasn't for socialism...

We would have no military, police, firefighters...hell the list goes on and on.

Today is Thank a Socialist Day...

Let the rest of us do our part and educate Republicans on What Socialism really means.

liberalism does not equate to socialism. and i understand what you're saying but the wingers aren't smart enough to understand we've had a mixed economic system forever.

but i hear ya.

I know there's a difference. The first half of my post is addressing liberalism specifically.

fair enough. i just hesitate to link those things because the wingers aren't bright enough to understand the distinctions.

 

[Skull Pilot]

If Big Business had its way In the early to mid 20th century...

There would be no "days off" for low level employees.

There would be no overtime pay.

There would be no minimum wage

If it wasn't for socialism...

We would have no military, police, firefighters...hell the list goes on and on.

Today is Thank a Socialist Day...

Let the rest of us do our part and educate Republicans on What Socialism really means.

liberalism does not equate to socialism. and i understand what you're saying but the wingers aren't smart enough to understand we've had a mixed economic system forever.

but i hear ya.

I know there's a difference. The first half of my post is addressing liberalism specifically.

fair enough. i just hesitate to link those things because the wingers aren't bright enough to understand the distinctions.

Neither does Hillary

 

[Billy000]

Without some basic level of law and order, people could use violence instead of negotiation to get what they want.

You think all those Union protests of the past that you are so fond of weren't violent?

Lol people are people. What difference does it make if it happened at Union protests? How does that possibly devalue the need for law and order?

I said nothing about law and order but you certainly seem to be looking at the past with rose colored glasses

Lol again what difference does it make if Union protests got violent? So what?

Didn't you just say that it's undesirable for people to use violence instead of negotiating?

But I suppose you think violence is OK if it's end is something you want right?

Lol I never said that it was okay for those protests to become violent. Obviously those Union members should be held accountable. My point is, how is this relevant to my thread? How does it counter the overall point of my thread?

 

[jillian]

Without some basic level of law and order, people could use violence instead of negotiation to get what they want.

You think all those Union protests of the past that you are so fond of weren't violent?

Lol people are people. What difference does it make if it happened at Union protests? How does that possibly devalue the need for law and order?

I said nothing about law and order but you certainly seem to be looking at the past with rose colored glasses

Lol again what difference does it make if Union protests got violent? So what?

Didn't you just say that it's undesirable for people to use violence instead of negotiating?

But I suppose you think violence is OK if it's end is something you want right?

you know, that's actually an interesting question....

the protestors aren't the ones who get violent, though. trump is the one who tells his brownshirts, oops, i mean supporters, to rough them up.

you don't think he staged this whole thing on friday? then why would he do his rally in the middle of chicago; why would his staff let in all the protestors; and why would he shut down the rally? there was no violence until he did that (it wasn't the police who told him to shut it down).... and at every rally he tells his people to rough up protestors.

what are they fighting for? the right to be bigots?

tel us what great social good the trump kkk thugs are fighting for?

 

[Skull Pilot]

You think all those Union protests of the past that you are so fond of weren't violent?

Lol people are people. What difference does it make if it happened at Union protests? How does that possibly devalue the need for law and order?

I said nothing about law and order but you certainly seem to be looking at the past with rose colored glasses

Lol again what difference does it make if Union protests got violent? So what?

Didn't you just say that it's undesirable for people to use violence instead of negotiating?

But I suppose you think violence is OK if it's end is something you want right?

Lol I never said that it was okay for those protests to become violent. Obviously those Union members should be held accountable. My point is, how is this relevant to my thread? How does it counter the overall point of my thread?

Hey you brought up violence instead of negotiations not me so maybe you should ask yourself that question

 

[Billy000]

If Big Business had its way In the early to mid 20th century...

There would be no "days off" for low level employees.

There would be no overtime pay.

There would be no minimum wage

If it wasn't for socialism...

We would have no military, police, firefighters...hell the list goes on and on.

Today is Thank a Socialist Day...

Let the rest of us do our part and educate Republicans on What Socialism really means.

liberalism does not equate to socialism. and i understand what you're saying but the wingers aren't smart enough to understand we've had a mixed economic system forever.

but i hear ya.

I know there's a difference. The first half of my post is addressing liberalism specifically.

fair enough. i just hesitate to link those things because the wingers aren't bright enough to understand the distinctions.

No I totally agree. We are talking about fundamental differences and between the two concepts. It's a shame repubs don't see that. I guess could have been more clear in making the distinction.

 

[Billy000]

Lol people are people. What difference does it make if it happened at Union protests? How does that possibly devalue the need for law and order?

I said nothing about law and order but you certainly seem to be looking at the past with rose colored glasses

Lol again what difference does it make if Union protests got violent? So what?

Didn't you just say that it's undesirable for people to use violence instead of negotiating?

But I suppose you think violence is OK if it's end is something you want right?

Lol I never said that it was okay for those protests to become violent. Obviously those Union members should be held accountable. My point is, how is this relevant to my thread? How does it counter the overall point of my thread?

Hey you brought up violence instead of negotiations not me so maybe you should ask yourself that question

Lol and you unexplicably brought up Union protests becoming violent. What am I supposed to do with that information?

 

[Mac1958]

This is the argument that the Far Right is essentially allowing the Far Left to win. Absolutist statements against government involvement are easy to rebut. "Roads & bridges", etc., is a pretty damn easy argument.

The Right's all-or-nothing behavior over the last eight years has allowed the Democrats to move Left, and I don't think they realize it. It's now to the point where the Left is no longer afraid to promote socialism, because they know most people like many services government provides. Slam dunk.

Self-inflicted wound.
.

 

[Skull Pilot]

You think all those Union protests of the past that you are so fond of weren't violent?

Lol people are people. What difference does it make if it happened at Union protests? How does that possibly devalue the need for law and order?

I said nothing about law and order but you certainly seem to be looking at the past with rose colored glasses

Lol again what difference does it make if Union protests got violent? So what?

Didn't you just say that it's undesirable for people to use violence instead of negotiating?

But I suppose you think violence is OK if it's end is something you want right?

you know, that's actually an interesting question....

the protestors aren't the ones who get violent, though. trump is the one who tells his brownshirts, oops, i mean supporters, to rough them up.

you don't think he staged this whole thing on friday? then why would he do his rally in the middle of chicago; why would his staff let in all the protestors; and why would he shut down the rally? there was no violence until he did that (it wasn't the police who told him to shut it down).... and at every rally he tells his people to rough up protestors.

what are they fighting for? the right to be bigots?

tel us what great social good the trump kkk thugs are fighting for?

I Don't know and don't care about Trump or his motivations.

I usually wonder why on earth people feel the need to disrupt the events of people simply because they disagree with what is being said and that saying interfering with someone else's right to free speech is OK as long as no one interferes or seemingly interferes with theirs

If they want to protest them let them get their own venue and make their case. Really no one who is hosting and paying for a venue is obligated to let in protesters

 

[Skull Pilot]

I said nothing about law and order but you certainly seem to be looking at the past with rose colored glasses

Lol again what difference does it make if Union protests got violent? So what?

Didn't you just say that it's undesirable for people to use violence instead of negotiating?

But I suppose you think violence is OK if it's end is something you want right?

Lol I never said that it was okay for those protests to become violent. Obviously those Union members should be held accountable. My point is, how is this relevant to my thread? How does it counter the overall point of my thread?

Hey you brought up violence instead of negotiations not me so maybe you should ask yourself that question

Lol and you unexplicably brought up Union protests becoming violent. What am I supposed to do with that information?

So I gave you an example of something you brought up and you can't handle it?

 

[Billy000]

Lol again what difference does it make if Union protests got violent? So what?

Didn't you just say that it's undesirable for people to use violence instead of negotiating?

But I suppose you think violence is OK if it's end is something you want right?

Lol I never said that it was okay for those protests to become violent. Obviously those Union members should be held accountable. My point is, how is this relevant to my thread? How does it counter the overall point of my thread?

Hey you brought up violence instead of negotiations not me so maybe you should ask yourself that question

Lol and you unexplicably brought up Union protests becoming violent. What am I supposed to do with that information?

So I gave you an example of something you brought up and you can't handle it?

Lol an example that does nothing to counter the logic of the ideas I am discussing.