We should all be greatful for socialism/liberalism

[kaz]

Without some basic level of law and order, people could use violence instead of negotiation to get what they want.

There you go again. In defending ubiquitous government, you choose to defend that which even a small government libertarian suppports. Yes, I support basic law and order. You argued for socialism, not a police department and courts that I support too

Lol Christ man any program funded by tax payers is SOCIALISM.

No, you people are stupid as shit. Socialism is central economic planning, it involves removal of economic choice from us for our own property and involves endless redistribution of wealth from people who earned it to people who voted for it to be given to themselves.

The police, civil and criminal courts, military and other services that are shared by all and don't profit one citizen at the expense of another are not socialism

I don't see how you don't understand the basic defintion of socialism. How about you look it up? Cite me an objective, non biased definition of socialism.

Since you're too fucking lazy to look up a definition

socialism: definition of socialism in Oxford dictionary (American English) (US)

Exactly:

"A political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."

As I told the mental midget, not being an anarchist doesn't make you a socialist. It's central economic planning. As opposed to capitalism, which is distributed economic planning. Socialism is tyranny, capitalism is freedom. Democratic socialism just makes the tyrants the majority

 

[Dale Smith]

Here is my impression of one the dumbed down Fabian socialists...those of the low IQ variety......

"I get so tired of hearing peoples say that we need less gubermint...nothing could be further from the truth. We don't need LESS gubermint...oh hell NO, we need MORE gubermint, MORE fees, MORE entitlements and subsidies. If you have enough fiat currency to buy two chickens, well, you should be compelled to give one to those that don't have one at all and we need da gubermint to make sure you do that!!!!!

 

[Billy000]

There you go again. In defending ubiquitous government, you choose to defend that which even a small government libertarian suppports. Yes, I support basic law and order. You argued for socialism, not a police department and courts that I support too

Lol Christ man any program funded by tax payers is SOCIALISM.

No, you people are stupid as shit. Socialism is central economic planning, it involves removal of economic choice from us for our own property and involves endless redistribution of wealth from people who earned it to people who voted for it to be given to themselves.

The police, civil and criminal courts, military and other services that are shared by all and don't profit one citizen at the expense of another are not socialism

I don't see how you don't understand the basic defintion of socialism. How about you look it up? Cite me an objective, non biased definition of socialism.

Since you're too fucking lazy to look up a definition

socialism: definition of socialism in Oxford dictionary (American English) (US)

Exactly:

"A political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."

As I told the mental midget, not being an anarchist doesn't make you a socialist. It's central economic planning. As opposed to capitalism, which is distributed economic planning. Socialism is tyranny, capitalism is freedom. Democratic socialism just makes the tyrants the majority

Lol you're so thick dude. Owned and regulated by the community. That is what our governmental programs are.

 

[Dale Smith]

Lol Christ man any program funded by tax payers is SOCIALISM.

No, you people are stupid as shit. Socialism is central economic planning, it involves removal of economic choice from us for our own property and involves endless redistribution of wealth from people who earned it to people who voted for it to be given to themselves.

The police, civil and criminal courts, military and other services that are shared by all and don't profit one citizen at the expense of another are not socialism

I don't see how you don't understand the basic defintion of socialism. How about you look it up? Cite me an objective, non biased definition of socialism.

Since you're too fucking lazy to look up a definition

socialism: definition of socialism in Oxford dictionary (American English) (US)

Exactly:

"A political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."

As I told the mental midget, not being an anarchist doesn't make you a socialist. It's central economic planning. As opposed to capitalism, which is distributed economic planning. Socialism is tyranny, capitalism is freedom. Democratic socialism just makes the tyrants the majority

Lol you're so thick dude. Owned and regulated by the community. That is what our governmental programs are.

Your beloved "gubermint" is actually a corporation with 185,000 subsidiaries that make money off of our sweat equity with the acts, statutes, codes and taxes that they enforce that are all designed to bring in revenue to this massive corporate entity that is tryig tp pass itself off as a legitimate governmental entity....you are the clueless one. The people no longer have allodial rights to their property...they are mere tenets.....FACT!

 

[kaz]

Lol Christ man any program funded by tax payers is SOCIALISM.

No, you people are stupid as shit. Socialism is central economic planning, it involves removal of economic choice from us for our own property and involves endless redistribution of wealth from people who earned it to people who voted for it to be given to themselves.

The police, civil and criminal courts, military and other services that are shared by all and don't profit one citizen at the expense of another are not socialism

I don't see how you don't understand the basic defintion of socialism. How about you look it up? Cite me an objective, non biased definition of socialism.

Since you're too fucking lazy to look up a definition

socialism: definition of socialism in Oxford dictionary (American English) (US)

Exactly:

"A political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."

As I told the mental midget, not being an anarchist doesn't make you a socialist. It's central economic planning. As opposed to capitalism, which is distributed economic planning. Socialism is tyranny, capitalism is freedom. Democratic socialism just makes the tyrants the majority

Lol you're so thick dude. Owned and regulated by the community. That is what our governmental programs are.

It says the "means of production" is. The police are "means of production?" This is why I said I was putting zero effort into debating this with you

 

[Billy000]

No, you people are stupid as shit. Socialism is central economic planning, it involves removal of economic choice from us for our own property and involves endless redistribution of wealth from people who earned it to people who voted for it to be given to themselves.

The police, civil and criminal courts, military and other services that are shared by all and don't profit one citizen at the expense of another are not socialism

I don't see how you don't understand the basic defintion of socialism. How about you look it up? Cite me an objective, non biased definition of socialism.

Since you're too fucking lazy to look up a definition

socialism: definition of socialism in Oxford dictionary (American English) (US)

Exactly:

"A political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."

As I told the mental midget, not being an anarchist doesn't make you a socialist. It's central economic planning. As opposed to capitalism, which is distributed economic planning. Socialism is tyranny, capitalism is freedom. Democratic socialism just makes the tyrants the majority

Lol you're so thick dude. Owned and regulated by the community. That is what our governmental programs are.

It says the "means of production" is. The police are "means of production?" This is why I said I was putting zero effort into debating this with you

Lol yes the means of production. As in paid for by the people. We vote also vote for laws in such programs. That is where democratic socialism comes in.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Lol Christ man any program funded by tax payers is SOCIALISM.

No, you people are stupid as shit. Socialism is central economic planning, it involves removal of economic choice from us for our own property and involves endless redistribution of wealth from people who earned it to people who voted for it to be given to themselves.

The police, civil and criminal courts, military and other services that are shared by all and don't profit one citizen at the expense of another are not socialism

I don't see how you don't understand the basic defintion of socialism. How about you look it up? Cite me an objective, non biased definition of socialism.

Since you're too fucking lazy to look up a definition

socialism: definition of socialism in Oxford dictionary (American English) (US)

Exactly:

"A political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."

As I told the mental midget, not being an anarchist doesn't make you a socialist. It's central economic planning. As opposed to capitalism, which is distributed economic planning. Socialism is tyranny, capitalism is freedom. Democratic socialism just makes the tyrants the majority

Lol you're so thick dude. Owned and regulated by the community. That is what our governmental programs are.

MEANS OF PRODUCTION AND DISTRIBUTION OWNED BY THE GOVERNMENT

Social programs are NOT means of production and distribution. Most are basically charities we are compelled to donate to by law

 

[kaz]

I don't see how you don't understand the basic defintion of socialism. How about you look it up? Cite me an objective, non biased definition of socialism.

Since you're too fucking lazy to look up a definition

socialism: definition of socialism in Oxford dictionary (American English) (US)

Exactly:

"A political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."

As I told the mental midget, not being an anarchist doesn't make you a socialist. It's central economic planning. As opposed to capitalism, which is distributed economic planning. Socialism is tyranny, capitalism is freedom. Democratic socialism just makes the tyrants the majority

Lol you're so thick dude. Owned and regulated by the community. That is what our governmental programs are.

It says the "means of production" is. The police are "means of production?" This is why I said I was putting zero effort into debating this with you

Lol yes the means of production. As in paid for by the people. We vote also vote for laws in such programs. That is where democratic socialism comes in.

You think "means of production" refers to anything "paid for by the people?" Seriously?

 

[Billy000]

No, you people are stupid as shit. Socialism is central economic planning, it involves removal of economic choice from us for our own property and involves endless redistribution of wealth from people who earned it to people who voted for it to be given to themselves.

The police, civil and criminal courts, military and other services that are shared by all and don't profit one citizen at the expense of another are not socialism

I don't see how you don't understand the basic defintion of socialism. How about you look it up? Cite me an objective, non biased definition of socialism.

Since you're too fucking lazy to look up a definition

socialism: definition of socialism in Oxford dictionary (American English) (US)

Exactly:

"A political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."

As I told the mental midget, not being an anarchist doesn't make you a socialist. It's central economic planning. As opposed to capitalism, which is distributed economic planning. Socialism is tyranny, capitalism is freedom. Democratic socialism just makes the tyrants the majority

Lol you're so thick dude. Owned and regulated by the community. That is what our governmental programs are.

MEANS OF PRODUCTION AND DISTRIBUTION OWNED BY THE GOVERNMENT

Social programs are NOT means of production and distribution.

Lol you just added on "owned by the government". Do you not even see what the definition says?

 

[Skull Pilot]

I don't see how you don't understand the basic defintion of socialism. How about you look it up? Cite me an objective, non biased definition of socialism.

Since you're too fucking lazy to look up a definition

socialism: definition of socialism in Oxford dictionary (American English) (US)

Exactly:

"A political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."

As I told the mental midget, not being an anarchist doesn't make you a socialist. It's central economic planning. As opposed to capitalism, which is distributed economic planning. Socialism is tyranny, capitalism is freedom. Democratic socialism just makes the tyrants the majority

Lol you're so thick dude. Owned and regulated by the community. That is what our governmental programs are.

MEANS OF PRODUCTION AND DISTRIBUTION OWNED BY THE GOVERNMENT

Social programs are NOT means of production and distribution.

Lol you just added on "owned by the government". Do you not even see what the definition says?

BFD It's the same thing

Do you really think YOU own any community property or do you say government property?

 

[Billy000]

Since you're too fucking lazy to look up a definition

socialism: definition of socialism in Oxford dictionary (American English) (US)

Exactly:

"A political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."

As I told the mental midget, not being an anarchist doesn't make you a socialist. It's central economic planning. As opposed to capitalism, which is distributed economic planning. Socialism is tyranny, capitalism is freedom. Democratic socialism just makes the tyrants the majority

Lol you're so thick dude. Owned and regulated by the community. That is what our governmental programs are.

It says the "means of production" is. The police are "means of production?" This is why I said I was putting zero effort into debating this with you

Lol yes the means of production. As in paid for by the people. We vote also vote for laws in such programs. That is where democratic socialism comes in.

You think "means of production" refers to anything "paid for by the people?" Seriously?

Yeah obviously it wouldn't exist without the money to pay for it.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Exactly:

"A political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."

As I told the mental midget, not being an anarchist doesn't make you a socialist. It's central economic planning. As opposed to capitalism, which is distributed economic planning. Socialism is tyranny, capitalism is freedom. Democratic socialism just makes the tyrants the majority

Lol you're so thick dude. Owned and regulated by the community. That is what our governmental programs are.

It says the "means of production" is. The police are "means of production?" This is why I said I was putting zero effort into debating this with you

Lol yes the means of production. As in paid for by the people. We vote also vote for laws in such programs. That is where democratic socialism comes in.

You think "means of production" refers to anything "paid for by the people?" Seriously?

Yeah obviously it wouldn't exist without the money to pay for it.

Some of those things would certainly exist in fact they existed BEFORE the government decided to start paying for them

 

[NYcarbineer]

No, you people are stupid as shit. Socialism is central economic planning, it involves removal of economic choice from us for our own property and involves endless redistribution of wealth from people who earned it to people who voted for it to be given to themselves.

The police, civil and criminal courts, military and other services that are shared by all and don't profit one citizen at the expense of another are not socialism

I don't see how you don't understand the basic defintion of socialism. How about you look it up? Cite me an objective, non biased definition of socialism.

Since you're too fucking lazy to look up a definition

socialism: definition of socialism in Oxford dictionary (American English) (US)

Exactly:

"A political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."

As I told the mental midget, not being an anarchist doesn't make you a socialist. It's central economic planning. As opposed to capitalism, which is distributed economic planning. Socialism is tyranny, capitalism is freedom. Democratic socialism just makes the tyrants the majority

Lol you're so thick dude. Owned and regulated by the community. That is what our governmental programs are.

MEANS OF PRODUCTION AND DISTRIBUTION OWNED BY THE GOVERNMENT

Social programs are NOT means of production and distribution. Most are basically charities we are compelled to donate to by law

So in that famous rant by Ronald Reagan against any Medicare/Medicaid type programs,

he was wrong to call them socialist? Everyone who has agreed with him for decades afterward were and are wrong?

 

[Rustic]

If Big Business had its way In the early to mid 20th century...

There would be no "days off" for low level employees.

There would be no overtime pay.

There would be no minimum wage

We need liberal/progressive ideas.

If it wasn't for socialism...

We would have no military, police, firefighters...hell the list goes on and on.

Today is Thank a Socialist Day...

Let the rest of us do our part and educate Republicans on What Socialism really means.

Small business cant function in a socialist environment...

 

[Skull Pilot]

I don't see how you don't understand the basic defintion of socialism. How about you look it up? Cite me an objective, non biased definition of socialism.

Since you're too fucking lazy to look up a definition

socialism: definition of socialism in Oxford dictionary (American English) (US)

Exactly:

"A political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."

As I told the mental midget, not being an anarchist doesn't make you a socialist. It's central economic planning. As opposed to capitalism, which is distributed economic planning. Socialism is tyranny, capitalism is freedom. Democratic socialism just makes the tyrants the majority

Lol you're so thick dude. Owned and regulated by the community. That is what our governmental programs are.

MEANS OF PRODUCTION AND DISTRIBUTION OWNED BY THE GOVERNMENT

Social programs are NOT means of production and distribution. Most are basically charities we are compelled to donate to by law

So in that famous rant by Ronald Reagan against any Medicare/Medicaid type programs,

he was wrong to call them socialist? Everyone who has agreed with him for decades afterward were and are wrong?

By definition yes

And In all honesty I keep wondering why people bring up Reagan to me so much. Are you under the delusion that I am somehow a fan?

 

[Skull Pilot]

If Big Business had its way In the early to mid 20th century...

There would be no "days off" for low level employees.

There would be no overtime pay.

There would be no minimum wage

We need liberal/progressive ideas.

If it wasn't for socialism...

We would have no military, police, firefighters...hell the list goes on and on.

Today is Thank a Socialist Day...

Let the rest of us do our part and educate Republicans on What Socialism really means.

Small business cant function in a socialist environment...

The only way it can is by adopting an underground system of barter

 

[kaz]

No, you people are stupid as shit. Socialism is central economic planning, it involves removal of economic choice from us for our own property and involves endless redistribution of wealth from people who earned it to people who voted for it to be given to themselves.

The police, civil and criminal courts, military and other services that are shared by all and don't profit one citizen at the expense of another are not socialism

I don't see how you don't understand the basic defintion of socialism. How about you look it up? Cite me an objective, non biased definition of socialism.

Since you're too fucking lazy to look up a definition

socialism: definition of socialism in Oxford dictionary (American English) (US)

Exactly:

"A political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."

As I told the mental midget, not being an anarchist doesn't make you a socialist. It's central economic planning. As opposed to capitalism, which is distributed economic planning. Socialism is tyranny, capitalism is freedom. Democratic socialism just makes the tyrants the majority

Lol you're so thick dude. Owned and regulated by the community. That is what our governmental programs are.

MEANS OF PRODUCTION AND DISTRIBUTION OWNED BY THE GOVERNMENT

Social programs are NOT means of production and distribution. Most are basically charities we are compelled to donate to by law

Exactly:

"A political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."

As I told the mental midget, not being an anarchist doesn't make you a socialist. It's central economic planning. As opposed to capitalism, which is distributed economic planning. Socialism is tyranny, capitalism is freedom. Democratic socialism just makes the tyrants the majority

Lol you're so thick dude. Owned and regulated by the community. That is what our governmental programs are.

It says the "means of production" is. The police are "means of production?" This is why I said I was putting zero effort into debating this with you

Lol yes the means of production. As in paid for by the people. We vote also vote for laws in such programs. That is where democratic socialism comes in.

You think "means of production" refers to anything "paid for by the people?" Seriously?

Yeah obviously it wouldn't exist without the money to pay for it.

so you think the military is "means of production?"

 

[kaz]

That is where democratic socialism comes in.

Why does being in the majority justify tyranny? I thought liberals believed in the rights of the minority. Yet another lie?

 

[Skull Pilot]

That is where democratic socialism comes in.

Why does being in the majority justify tyranny? I thought liberals believed in the rights of the minority. Yet another lie?

Another thing he doesn't understand is that we are a republic not a democracy

 

[NYcarbineer]

Since you're too fucking lazy to look up a definition

socialism: definition of socialism in Oxford dictionary (American English) (US)

Exactly:

"A political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole."

As I told the mental midget, not being an anarchist doesn't make you a socialist. It's central economic planning. As opposed to capitalism, which is distributed economic planning. Socialism is tyranny, capitalism is freedom. Democratic socialism just makes the tyrants the majority

Lol you're so thick dude. Owned and regulated by the community. That is what our governmental programs are.

MEANS OF PRODUCTION AND DISTRIBUTION OWNED BY THE GOVERNMENT

Social programs are NOT means of production and distribution. Most are basically charities we are compelled to donate to by law

So in that famous rant by Ronald Reagan against any Medicare/Medicaid type programs,

he was wrong to call them socialist? Everyone who has agreed with him for decades afterward were and are wrong?

By definition yes

And In all honesty I keep wondering why people bring up Reagan to me so much. Are you under the delusion that I am somehow a fan?

What is this new movement to redefine socialism so narrowly? So you guys can get on board the welfare state without labeling yourselves socialist?