Weisselberg Indicted

[colfax_m]

they said he doesn't need to go to jail. you should actually read.

No they didn’t.

 

[jc456]

the things you think you're privy to. Amazing.

These are a matter of public record.

post a link then

 

[colfax_m]

are they obligated to cooperate?

Nope and I never claimed otherwise. In fact I’ve specifically said they aren’t obligated.

 

[jc456]

they said he doesn't need to go to jail. you should actually read.

No they didn’t.

yep.

 

[jc456]

are they obligated to cooperate?

Nope and I never claimed otherwise. In fact I’ve specifically said they aren’t obligated.

then why did you ask it?

 

[colfax_m]

the things you think you're privy to. Amazing.

These are a matter of public record.

post a link then

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-business-weisselberg-indictments/2021/07/01/e2b774a0-da15-11eb-bb9e-70fda8c37057_story.html

 

[jc456]

they said he doesn't need to go to jail. you should actually read.

No they didn’t.

post 1353, read it. my gawd.

 

[jc456]

the things you think you're privy to. Amazing.

These are a matter of public record.

post a link then

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-business-weisselberg-indictments/2021/07/01/e2b774a0-da15-11eb-bb9e-70fda8c37057_story.html

alleged? Again, they are not obligated to cooperate.

 

[colfax_m]

they said he doesn't need to go to jail. you should actually read.

No they didn’t.

yep.

Post a link.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And he's been cooperating with Vance and the Grand Jury since 2018.

Yet they had to go to the SCOTUS to get their subpoenas enforced. So again reality is the opposite of your fantasies.

 

[colfax_m]

then why did you ask it?

Because the other poster seemed to think they were cooperating. If you had read the post I responded to, it would have been perfectly clear.

 

[colfax_m]

they said he doesn't need to go to jail. you should actually read.

No they didn’t.

post 1353, read it. my gawd.

This is post 1353. Has nothing in it concerning your allegation.

well yeah...of course...but we didn't have that here....Vance in an unprecedented move indicted him for a crime...never before has that happened for this sort of thing.

And he's been cooperating with Vance and the Grand Jury since 2018.

The "hardball" is because Vance didn't hear what he wanted to hear.

 

[colfax_m]

alleged? Again, they are not obligated to cooperate.

We both know that Trump fought the subpoenas.
Yes, he’s legally allowed to do so.

But that’s not cooperating.

 

[struth]

Fort Fun Indiana sorry that was a sub for trump’s personal tax returns.

The CFO appeared as far back as 2018z. Are you lying or just this grossly misinformed by your propagandist?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Trump will throw Weisselberg right under the bus, the moment he perceives Weisselberg cannot harm him. This is the pattern. And the presidential pardon is no longer in play.

There are three people on the Trump Org board. And at least one of them directly authorized the fraud and was personally aware of Wesisselberg's off the books compensation. If the facts asserted in the indictment are demonstrated by the evidence in court (a safe bet), then we will have the situation of there being at least one as yet unindicted coconspirator on the Trump Org board.

 

[struth]

nobody is alternating reality about the trumped up case against Weisseberg

Are you sure? Some of the Trump faithful here have been trying to say that Weisselberg’s apartment in Manhattan was necessary temporary housing. You know, temporary as in 15 years.

Others have been pretending like the case is just car payments.

Others are pretending that tax fraud isn’t criminal.

that’s certainly an argument his accountants would make with the govt auditors in a normal proceeding…but this of course is a witch hunt and unprecedented move…so certainly one his attorneys will be using at trial…and rhe Govt burden to prove beyond a reasonable doubt it wasn’t

certainly seems reasonable the business would want him to have an apartment in town closer to the office to use so he could be readily available instead of communiting all the time from his home in the suburbs

Maybe in a normal proceedings the accountants would have sat down with auditors.

Trump’s organization refused to allow that to happen.

If he wanted to play hardball, he’ll get hardball. Just don’t complain when the prosecutors don’t cut you any slack.

well yeah...of course...but we didn't have that here....Vance in an unprecedented move indicted him for a crime...never before has that happened for this sort of thing.

And he's been cooperating with Vance and the Grand Jury since 2018.

The "hardball" is because Vance didn't hear what he wanted to hear.

You actually think they’ve been cooperating with Vance? Seriously?

The CFO appeared as back as 2018.

They have where they felt they had to, and fought on issues where they thought he was going to far. Which is there right, and on some issues they apparently were, like trumps personal tax returns, which they have and found zippy to charge him with and his CFO wouldn’t say what they wanted so they took this unprecedented move

 

[struth]

nobody is alternating reality about the trumped up case against Weisseberg

Are you sure? Some of the Trump faithful here have been trying to say that Weisselberg’s apartment in Manhattan was necessary temporary housing. You know, temporary as in 15 years.

Others have been pretending like the case is just car payments.

Others are pretending that tax fraud isn’t criminal.

that’s certainly an argument his accountants would make with the govt auditors in a normal proceeding…but this of course is a witch hunt and unprecedented move…so certainly one his attorneys will be using at trial…and rhe Govt burden to prove beyond a reasonable doubt it wasn’t

certainly seems reasonable the business would want him to have an apartment in town closer to the office to use so he could be readily available instead of communiting all the time from his home in the suburbs

Maybe in a normal proceedings the accountants would have sat down with auditors.

Trump’s organization refused to allow that to happen.

If he wanted to play hardball, he’ll get hardball. Just don’t complain when the prosecutors don’t cut you any slack.

the things you think you're privy to. Amazing.

he’s just making things up at this point and repeating debunked propaganda

 

[struth]

alleged? Again, they are not obligated to cooperate.

We both know that Trump fought the subpoenas.
Yes, he’s legally allowed to do so.

But that’s not cooperating.

what does that have to do with my post that the CFO has been cooperating and meeting with the GJ since 2018?

 

[colfax_m]

nobody is alternating reality about the trumped up case against Weisseberg

Are you sure? Some of the Trump faithful here have been trying to say that Weisselberg’s apartment in Manhattan was necessary temporary housing. You know, temporary as in 15 years.

Others have been pretending like the case is just car payments.

Others are pretending that tax fraud isn’t criminal.

that’s certainly an argument his accountants would make with the govt auditors in a normal proceeding…but this of course is a witch hunt and unprecedented move…so certainly one his attorneys will be using at trial…and rhe Govt burden to prove beyond a reasonable doubt it wasn’t

certainly seems reasonable the business would want him to have an apartment in town closer to the office to use so he could be readily available instead of communiting all the time from his home in the suburbs

Maybe in a normal proceedings the accountants would have sat down with auditors.

Trump’s organization refused to allow that to happen.

If he wanted to play hardball, he’ll get hardball. Just don’t complain when the prosecutors don’t cut you any slack.

well yeah...of course...but we didn't have that here....Vance in an unprecedented move indicted him for a crime...never before has that happened for this sort of thing.

And he's been cooperating with Vance and the Grand Jury since 2018.

The "hardball" is because Vance didn't hear what he wanted to hear.

You actually think they’ve been cooperating with Vance? Seriously?

The CFO appeared as back as 2018.

They have where they felt they had to, and fought on issues where they thought he was going to far. Which is there right, and on some issues they apparently were, like trumps personal tax returns, which they have and found zippy to charge him with and his CFO wouldn’t say what they wanted so they took this unprecedented move

He was subpoenaed, was he not?

Kinda hard to claim you’re cooperating when all you did was comply with a minimum legal obligation.

They did not cooperate. They took Vance to the Supreme Court to get the tax returns for the organization. They refused to let anyone sit down voluntarily. They refused to turn over any information unless compelled.

They didn’t cooperate. Saying otherwise is defying reality.

 

[colfax_m]

what does that have to do with my post that the CFO has been cooperating and meeting with the GJ since 2018?

Because that’s not cooperating. You are legally required to show up when summoned by a grand jury.