What did our founders really mean when they said “general welfare”?

[dudmuck]

"General welfare" is in contrast to "individual welfare". Promoting the "General welfare" means policies that help the whole union- not things that only help particular segments or individuals.

 

[EyeBRollin]

where?

You support tax cuts for the rich.

 

[jc456]

You support tax cuts for the rich.

where? still waiting.

 

[EyeBRollin]

where? still waiting.

Your President passed the tax cuts and jobs act. You voted for him twice. You support tax cuts for the rich.

 

[jc456]

Your President passed the tax cuts and jobs act. You voted for him twice. You support tax cuts for the rich.

where's the tax cut? detail the cut.

 

[dblack]

If you voted for Trump ...

Nope ...

I ask for your opinions on EXACTLY what you think our founders meant when they used the phrase “GENERAL WELFARE” in the constitution?.

The key to understanding the phrase is the word "general", the opposite of "specific". They meant that the services of government should benefit the general welfare of the nation, and not bestowed as favors to special interests.

 

[jc456]

Nope ...
The key to understanding the phrase is the word "general", the opposite of "specific". They meant that the services of government should benefit the general welfare of the nation, and not bestowed as favors to special interests.

Ding, ding and yet demofks

 

[BrokeLoser]

You support tax cuts for the rich.

Your President passed the tax cuts and jobs act. You voted for him twice. You support tax cuts for the rich.

Why wouldn’t you want your fellow countrymen to keep more of what’s theirs?
Why wouldn‘t you want government to cut spending on things like illegal wetbacks instead?

Ain’t that right Unkotare ?

 

[BrokeLoser]

Cause 1 is a full and complete clause. Each clause is independent. So spending on the general welfare is WELL ESTABLISHED to mean spending on social programs

Clause one is a full and complete clause. It states spending on general welfare.


You are done

So “GENERAL” to you means “individual”?

 

[Vegasgiants]

So “GENERAL” to you means “individual”?

No it means general

 

[rightwinger]

So “GENERAL” to you means “individual”?

Helping individuals does help the general population

 

[TNHarley]

Helping individuals does help the general population

how does giving some piece of shit in california 1k bucks a month help me?

 

[TNHarley]

general means "general" not individual.
You federal supremacists are trying to redefine words to fit your religion.

 

[task0778]

No it means general

"General" means everybody's welfare is improved, like building roads and bridges where everyone benefits. It does not mean some over others, hence it is NOT about gov't social welfare programs that did not exist then. And BTW, the Preamble is only an introduction to the Constitution and not a basis for any laws/legislation. The Preamble’s statements of purpose do not themselves grant powers or confer rights; the substantive provisions in the main body of the Constitution do that.

 

[there4eyeM]

"Promote" is not synonymous with "provide".

Is this not true?

 

[Vegasgiants]

"General" means everybody's welfare is improved, like building roads and bridges where everyone benefits. It does not mean some over others, hence it is NOT about gov't social welfare programs that did not exist then. And BTW, the Preamble is only an introduction to the Constitution and not a basis for any laws/legislation. The Preamble’s statements of purpose do not themselves grant powers or confer rights; the substantive provisions in the main body of the Constitution do that.

So can you name any jurist in America that agrees with you?


Come on dude

 

[rightwinger]

how does giving some piece of shit in california 1k bucks a month help me?

Not responding to this piece of shit post

 

[Polishprince]

Helping individuals does help the general population

So, in your view, there really isn't any limit to what the government has a right to do?

As long as the policies are said to help the general population?

Doesn't seem like a novus ordo seclorum at all, but instead just the old school idea of totalitarian government.

The "age of big government" continues I guess.

 

[Vegasgiants]

So, in your view, there really isn't any limit to what the government has a right to do?

As long as the policies are said to help the general population?

Doesn't seem like a novus ordo seclorum at all, but instead just the old school idea of totalitarian government.

The "age of big government" continues I guess.

Yes. It's ok as long as it helps the people

 

[rightwinger]

General" means everybody's welfare is improved, like building roads and bridges where everyone benefits. It does not mean some over others,

Building a bridge in your neighborhood does nothing to help me. I will never use it

So bridges cant be general welfare

In fact, you can’t name a single thing Government does that helps everyone equally. It can’t be done