What does the Right stand for?

☭proletarian☭;1830016 said:
Then tell us what you stand FOR.

Not what you are against , what you are for.

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as written (with only land-owning rights being able to vote and blacks being less than human with no possibility of getting rids of slavery for a time) or with the modifications the liberals have made, like women's suffrage and abolition?'

You see, you've answered nothing. All you've done is refer to what amounts to a holy text, which implies that you're unable to actually articulate any real principles.
I answered using a picture so as not to confuse the OP with large words. When people continually take the intent and beliefs and dreams that the founders had when they wrote that document, and deny that the founders offered ways to improve upon it, they really do not offer up an argument.

The argument comes when people who think they know what they are talking to when they see the U.S. Constitution and then argue for programs and other entitlements that do not belong to the Federal Government but to the states.

Be sure you understand ALL of the Constitution and where government interventionism should be applied.

I stand for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights as it was written, in the spirit it was written with all the attendant powers given to the people to take control of their destiny.

Modern day liberalism and how it is applied to our society is a disease. To oppose it is not taking a stand against things. It is taking a stand for our society.
 
This is a political discussion site willow.

WTF do you think we are here for?

you don't ask someone for a list what they stand for, belittle them for not providing one, then when they do start argueing about what they stand for.. moron. that's the way dishonest fucks act

Leave the site if you dont wish to have your ideas challenged or discussed.

Sorry,, I am discussing my ideas! That you libtards are dishonest fucks..
 
Darkwind , you dont get to deside the definative interpitation of the constitution.

Sorry but your name is not written in the original as the final arbitor.
 
What the Constitution is NOT is dishonest men creating documents in the blood of our children, bribing naysayers and then sneaking into chambers to hold votes in the dead of the night on issues they have not read and do not understand.
 
Darkwind , you dont get to deside the definative interpitation of the constitution.

Sorry but your name is not written in the original as the final arbitor.
Really? And you do?

I have as much right as anyone and I apply classical liberal understanding of what that document stands for.

When it comes to MY participation in our society, it is ONLY My understand that sways My vote and positions.
 
☭proletarian☭;1830072 said:
I stand for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights as it was written, .


Awesome. I'll tell the ******* and the women to get out of the polling booths. Oh, and the poor. :clap2:
Go right ahead. As I said, if you don't understand how it was written and how our society works, it is hardly My problem.

I guess back room deals writ in the blood of future generations is a better government then the one you fear.
 
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Darkwind , you dont get to deside the definative interpitation of the constitution.

Sorry but your name is not written in the original as the final arbitor.
Really? And you do?

I have as much right as anyone and I apply classical liberal understanding of what that document stands for.

When it comes to MY participation in our society, it is ONLY My understand that sways My vote and positions.

Who is the final arbitor of what the constitution means?
 
☭proletarian☭;1829934 said:
PR, the right-wing and the republicans spit on the constitution all the time. They're statists who work to make the Fd bigger and stronger just like the Dems

The right wing stands on the constitution a hell of a lot more than the liberals do. Just ask obama what he thinks the constitution is.

"Constitution deeply flawed"... yup... and that's just the way the left sees it too...

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11OhmY1obS4[/ame]

If the original constitution was flawless why did the founding fathers set up a system in which the people could alter it?
Never said it was "flawless." However, I don't agree it's "DEEPLY FLAWED" either. I think the closer we stick to it, the better off we'll be. Liberals don't.
 
The right wing stands on the constitution a hell of a lot more than the liberals do. Just ask obama what he thinks the constitution is.

"Constitution deeply flawed"... yup... and that's just the way the left sees it too...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11OhmY1obS4

If the original constitution was flawless why did the founding fathers set up a system in which the people could alter it?
Never said it was "flawless." However, I don't agree it's "DEEPLY FLAWED" either. I think the closer we stick to it, the better off we'll be. Liberals don't.

Racism and sexism are deeply flawed ideas.

Both were in the original constitution and that is undeniable
 
I believe I know what they oppose:
No to Federal regulations--or yes to deregulation
No to gun controls--or yes to gun ownership;
No to taxes--or yes to low taxes;
No to abortion--or yes for life;
No to gay/lesbian marriage--or yes to religious definition of marriage;
No to single payer universal health care--or yes to private insurance
No to stem cell research--yes to ethics in science;
No to deficit spending--yes to balanced budget;
No to campaign finance restrictions--yes to private campaigns finances
No to sex education at any age--yes to abstinence programs;
No to welfare--yes to personal responsibilty;
No to Medicare--yes for healthcare saving accounts;
No to Social Security--yes to private savings account;
No to the Democratic Party--yes to Conservative princples;
No to the Republican Party--yes to Conservative candidates..

If this is an accuate description of the new right, what do they support? And, what would our society look like if they prevailed?


It is only a matter of changing a "No" to a "Yes" to understand what the Conservatives support.
 
PR... he never said the word 'deeply' in your video
 
Darkwind , you dont get to deside the definative interpitation of the constitution.

Sorry but your name is not written in the original as the final arbitor.
Really? And you do?

I have as much right as anyone and I apply classical liberal understanding of what that document stands for.

When it comes to MY participation in our society, it is ONLY My understand that sways My vote and positions.

Who is the final arbitor of what the constitution means?
Are you serious? You don't make decisions based upon your own knowledge and understandings?

No single person can force Me to believe what they believe. Quit looking to others to make up your mind.
 
Really? And you do?

I have as much right as anyone and I apply classical liberal understanding of what that document stands for.

When it comes to MY participation in our society, it is ONLY My understand that sways My vote and positions.

Who is the final arbitor of what the constitution means?
Are you serious? You don't make decisions based upon your own knowledge and understandings?

No single person can force Me to believe what they believe. Quit looking to others to make up your mind.

In our government who is the final arbitor of the constitutional meaning?
 
I believe I know what they oppose:
No to Federal regulations;
No to gun controls;
No to taxes;
No to abortion;
No to gay/lesbian marriage;
No to single payer universal health care
No to stem cell research;
No to deficit spending;
No to campaign finance restrictions
No to sex education at any age;
No to welfare;
No to Medicare;
No to Social Security;
No to the Democratic Party;
No to the Republican Party.

If this is an accuate description of the new right, what do they support? And, what would our society look like if they prevailed?

You can never pin them down. They seem to be for all of the above, but when you ask, they tell you (pick one):
1. We have been through this before
2. Grow up
3. Liberal f*cktard
4. Smear campaign

And you will never know what they are for. They seem to be "pro American" and "anti everything else". Except, what does "pro America" mean to a Republican?
It means (pick one):
1. We have been through this before
2. Grow up
3. Liberal f*cktard
4. Smear campaign
 
If the original constitution was flawless why did the founding fathers set up a system in which the people could alter it?
Never said it was "flawless." However, I don't agree it's "DEEPLY FLAWED" either. I think the closer we stick to it, the better off we'll be. Liberals don't.

Racism and sexism are deeply flawed ideas.

Both were in the original constitution and that is undeniable
Both were compromises. Why is it that no one ever remembers that part?

And the way was given to alter that at a later date which it was.

Nothing that is done today is done in accordance with the Constitution.

You want healthcare? Write an Amendment to the Constitution. Not back room deals and bribes.

You want an entitlement program for the poor? Write an Amendment to the Constitution. Do not use judicial fiat to enact laws which you cannot enact through the force of argument or logic.
 
Darkwing do you NOT know the answer to the questiion?
I know it. You think it is the SCOTUS. But the SCOTUS can be overridden by the People though the House of Representatives. Remember, the judical branch is really just an extension of the Congress, even with the Marshall ruling.

The People have the final say in this country.
 

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