What happens to property of undocumented immigrants when deported?

[Ernie S.]

Trickery???? What are they pulling off on U.S. citizens? Are they not tricking our government out of services in place for U.S. citizens?
Yeah, I suppose most of them were good people until they broke our immigration laws. Now they are criminals and should suffer the consequences.

And YES go ahead eliminate 11millions illegals. Remember these people jobs are jobs that no whites or black wants. They do janitorial, agricultural, convalescence, home care, toilets etc.
Do you see other races working in all or any farms? There will be a time when you get old and you can not clean yourself. Who do you expect will clean you? Because that is what is going on right now.
How much do you think you can afford with your grocery bills? Think how much you paid last time you bought fruits in your grocery now multiply that 3 or 4 times the amount. If if if these food will even make to the groceries.

Do you know what happens when a business can't find an employee for the wage they offer?
They offer a higher wage. Yes, they will find people to sweep schools, scrub toilets and care for the elderly. Those that fill those jobs will be legal residents or citizens. They will pay taxes instead of swiping an EBT card. AMERICANS will be better off. The immigrants that have gone home might not be doing well, but that is not my problem.
By all means, If you like, adopt a few dozen immigrant families, but please keep your grubby fingers out of my pockets when you pay the grocery bill.

Boy sure know what you are talking about..... When you don't see white people or other races doing those jobs now. They are open to all races now. Can you give me a proof that these other races are working now in these establishment now? Do you think whites or even blacks will take these jobs? Get real.

Americans are not doing the jobs because they are either working at higher paying job or siting on their asses collecting checks from Uncle Sam.
Once companies can't find cheap illegal labor, they will offer more for the jobs. Some of the employed folk may change jobs and a few of the ass sitters may take some too.
The next step would be to make the ass sitters uncomfortable enough on welfare that they might just take the rest of these new high paying jobs.
Please study supply and demand before you reply again.

 

[charwin95]

Where in this country an illegal own a house or property? None. They name their property or properties to a relatives or their own oldest sibling that are also U.S. Citizen. So there's nothing to confiscate except maybe cars that they can just drive across the border.
Confiscation is the least to worry. There far more unimaginable gargantuan mess if we deport 11 millions illegals.

As I've said several times on this thread and hundreds of times on others: There is no need to deport 12 million people. All you need do is deport 1,000 with any "hearing" necessary held immediately with deportations occurring within 24 hours. There will be no time to sign over property, empty their bank accounts or drive their vehicles anywhere, They will simply leave the US and resurface 500 miles south of the border. (for the 90% that are Mexican)
The thing that needs to be done then is to publicize these deportations and let the remaining 11,999,000 pack up and leave on their own after loading up, selling or transferring property.
Monitor the flow and if and when it slows, grab up another 1,000, rinse and repeat.

Right on bro. Yes I saw your post in other thread but didn't even bother to read cause it's not the reality just like what you are posting now.
Do you expect these illegals just voluntary pack and go to the south? Good luck.
They left their country because they have nothing to begin with. Now you are talking 11 millions homeless and hopeless. I know you don't care.
What happened to their U.S. Citizen kids? Let say 1 yo to 18 years old living with illegal parents. Are they going to be deported? Or stay behind?
How do you eliminate 11 millions? Place marines on the street checking IDs all people. I mean ALL people. Raid houses, malls, schools, airports, churches, groceries all street corners etc. All of these has to go through legal process. I'm just being realistic.
Actually what you are proposing is similar to what the NAZI did to the Jews in WW2 rounding them up. BTW how did you come up 1,000? Deporting 1,000 will make you self deport?

Yes, I do expect many to go home on their own. Those with some property can liquidate and probably do pretty well back home.
The kids? Yup they can stay with friends or relatives or go with their parents. I really don't care as long as it doesn't cost taxpayers a dime.
Check ID's? No. Unnecessary. IDs will be checked when they apply for services, jobs, register their kids in school, apply for a library card, try to rent a house or get arrested. I'd go for a bounty payment for documented evidence of illegal status.
Again a Lib falling for Godwin's... Pitiful! No! NOTHING like Nazis rounding up Jews. The Jews were not criminals. They were not illegal immigrants. I don't advocate putting Mexicans or any other illegal ion a forced labor camp or an oven.
The 1,000 number??? No special reason other than it would get a lot of press. Most every illegal would know someone that knew someone that new someone that had been deported.
Why should refusing to bake a cake for a gay wedding be prosecuted and illegal immigration not? Who the hell are you to decide what crimes are punished and which are rewarded?

No. You are very wrong all the way. Do you really expect these people will voluntarily deport themselves when there's nothing for them to live with?
Liquidate property. What property? Most of these people don't own homes. Where do you see an illegals that own property?
KIDS. I know you don't care. 1. Leave the kids here with relatives or friends. Let say you have 2 kids and your spouse. Overnight I gave you 3 kids to take care, day care, food, clothing and schooling. Is that acceptable to you? You will seek help from the govt. Or you can put them all FEMA Camp and we tax payers feed and take care of them. Which we never have to feed or care for them to begin with.
2. Deport the U.S. Citizen kids by the millions let say 20 or maybe more with the illegal parents. These kids with no food, no jobs, no home, no land. What do you think they will become. Criminals. When they are old they come back to US on their own. By the millions turned criminals.
ID. Not necessary?? You are deporting them now, how would you know which people are illegals without ID? You said check id when they apply for job, school or rent? How about other races all races? Boy sure you don't know what you are talking about. You are already eliminating them do you expect them to look for a job or go to school?
The NAZI rounded the Jews that's exactly what you are proposing to eliminate illegals. What's the difference?
What the hell is baking a cake for gay wedding got to do with eliminating illegals?
I'm not creating a law I'm just being realistic. It is you who are dictating a law Who the hell are you? You don't have a clue of what you are talking about. You are wrong all the way. I feel sorry for you.

THEY ARE ILLEGAL ALIENS. They do not belong here Their kids are born here under illegal circumstances. They are not my problem. I'd rather not pay higher taxes because you think they should be. Got it?

No. You don't get it. These kids are us citizens it is the law of the land. Now who the hell are you creating a law? I know you don't care cause that's all you know. And you better care because either direction you go tax payers will carry all these burden. I'm telling you the reality and you keep giving me your anecdotal opinion. And are you crying? Because all what you are telling me is just inhumane and irresponsible.

 

[charwin95]

Trickery???? What are they pulling off on U.S. citizens? Are they not tricking our government out of services in place for U.S. citizens?
Yeah, I suppose most of them were good people until they broke our immigration laws. Now they are criminals and should suffer the consequences.

And YES go ahead eliminate 11millions illegals. Remember these people jobs are jobs that no whites or black wants. They do janitorial, agricultural, convalescence, home care, toilets etc.
Do you see other races working in all or any farms? There will be a time when you get old and you can not clean yourself. Who do you expect will clean you? Because that is what is going on right now.
How much do you think you can afford with your grocery bills? Think how much you paid last time you bought fruits in your grocery now multiply that 3 or 4 times the amount. If if if these food will even make to the groceries.

Do you know what happens when a business can't find an employee for the wage they offer?
They offer a higher wage. Yes, they will find people to sweep schools, scrub toilets and care for the elderly. Those that fill those jobs will be legal residents or citizens. They will pay taxes instead of swiping an EBT card. AMERICANS will be better off. The immigrants that have gone home might not be doing well, but that is not my problem.
By all means, If you like, adopt a few dozen immigrant families, but please keep your grubby fingers out of my pockets when you pay the grocery bill.

Boy sure know what you are talking about..... When you don't see white people or other races doing those jobs now. They are open to all races now. Can you give me a proof that these other races are working now in these establishment now? Do you think whites or even blacks will take these jobs? Get real.

Americans are not doing the jobs because they are either working at higher paying job or siting on their asses collecting checks from Uncle Sam.
Once companies can't find cheap illegal labor, they will offer more for the jobs. Some of the employed folk may change jobs and a few of the ass sitters may take some too.
The next step would be to make the ass sitters uncomfortable enough on welfare that they might just take the rest of these new high paying jobs.
Please study supply and demand before you reply again.

I have studied all my post. It is you who better study before you reply. You keep posting that are not realistic. Read what you just posted then read it again to yourself if you really know what the hell you are talking about.

 

[Ernie S.]

As I've said several times on this thread and hundreds of times on others: There is no need to deport 12 million people. All you need do is deport 1,000 with any "hearing" necessary held immediately with deportations occurring within 24 hours. There will be no time to sign over property, empty their bank accounts or drive their vehicles anywhere, They will simply leave the US and resurface 500 miles south of the border. (for the 90% that are Mexican)
The thing that needs to be done then is to publicize these deportations and let the remaining 11,999,000 pack up and leave on their own after loading up, selling or transferring property.
Monitor the flow and if and when it slows, grab up another 1,000, rinse and repeat.

Right on bro. Yes I saw your post in other thread but didn't even bother to read cause it's not the reality just like what you are posting now.
Do you expect these illegals just voluntary pack and go to the south? Good luck.
They left their country because they have nothing to begin with. Now you are talking 11 millions homeless and hopeless. I know you don't care.
What happened to their U.S. Citizen kids? Let say 1 yo to 18 years old living with illegal parents. Are they going to be deported? Or stay behind?
How do you eliminate 11 millions? Place marines on the street checking IDs all people. I mean ALL people. Raid houses, malls, schools, airports, churches, groceries all street corners etc. All of these has to go through legal process. I'm just being realistic.
Actually what you are proposing is similar to what the NAZI did to the Jews in WW2 rounding them up. BTW how did you come up 1,000? Deporting 1,000 will make you self deport?

Yes, I do expect many to go home on their own. Those with some property can liquidate and probably do pretty well back home.
The kids? Yup they can stay with friends or relatives or go with their parents. I really don't care as long as it doesn't cost taxpayers a dime.
Check ID's? No. Unnecessary. IDs will be checked when they apply for services, jobs, register their kids in school, apply for a library card, try to rent a house or get arrested. I'd go for a bounty payment for documented evidence of illegal status.
Again a Lib falling for Godwin's... Pitiful! No! NOTHING like Nazis rounding up Jews. The Jews were not criminals. They were not illegal immigrants. I don't advocate putting Mexicans or any other illegal ion a forced labor camp or an oven.
The 1,000 number??? No special reason other than it would get a lot of press. Most every illegal would know someone that knew someone that new someone that had been deported.
Why should refusing to bake a cake for a gay wedding be prosecuted and illegal immigration not? Who the hell are you to decide what crimes are punished and which are rewarded?

No. You are very wrong all the way. Do you really expect these people will voluntarily deport themselves when there's nothing for them to live with?
Liquidate property. What property? Most of these people don't own homes. Where do you see an illegals that own property?
KIDS. I know you don't care. 1. Leave the kids here with relatives or friends. Let say you have 2 kids and your spouse. Overnight I gave you 3 kids to take care, day care, food, clothing and schooling. Is that acceptable to you? You will seek help from the govt. Or you can put them all FEMA Camp and we tax payers feed and take care of them. Which we never have to feed or care for them to begin with.
2. Deport the U.S. Citizen kids by the millions let say 20 or maybe more with the illegal parents. These kids with no food, no jobs, no home, no land. What do you think they will become. Criminals. When they are old they come back to US on their own. By the millions turned criminals.
ID. Not necessary?? You are deporting them now, how would you know which people are illegals without ID? You said check id when they apply for job, school or rent? How about other races all races? Boy sure you don't know what you are talking about. You are already eliminating them do you expect them to look for a job or go to school?
The NAZI rounded the Jews that's exactly what you are proposing to eliminate illegals. What's the difference?
What the hell is baking a cake for gay wedding got to do with eliminating illegals?
I'm not creating a law I'm just being realistic. It is you who are dictating a law Who the hell are you? You don't have a clue of what you are talking about. You are wrong all the way. I feel sorry for you.

THEY ARE ILLEGAL ALIENS. They do not belong here Their kids are born here under illegal circumstances. They are not my problem. I'd rather not pay higher taxes because you think they should be. Got it?

No. You don't get it. These kids are us citizens it is the law of the land. Now who the hell are you creating a law? I know you don't care cause that's all you know. And you better care because either direction you go tax payers will carry all these burden. I'm telling you the reality and you keep giving me your anecdotal opinion. And are you crying? Because all what you are telling me is just inhumane and irresponsible.

I never said the kids aren't citizens. My opinion that they shouldn't be is irrelevant. What IS relevant is the fact that their parents are not citizens and have no right to be in this country. They must leave. Their children may stay or leave, but US taxpayers should not support them. That is their parents responsibility.

 

[Ernie S.]

Trickery???? What are they pulling off on U.S. citizens? Are they not tricking our government out of services in place for U.S. citizens?
Yeah, I suppose most of them were good people until they broke our immigration laws. Now they are criminals and should suffer the consequences.

And YES go ahead eliminate 11millions illegals. Remember these people jobs are jobs that no whites or black wants. They do janitorial, agricultural, convalescence, home care, toilets etc.
Do you see other races working in all or any farms? There will be a time when you get old and you can not clean yourself. Who do you expect will clean you? Because that is what is going on right now.
How much do you think you can afford with your grocery bills? Think how much you paid last time you bought fruits in your grocery now multiply that 3 or 4 times the amount. If if if these food will even make to the groceries.

Do you know what happens when a business can't find an employee for the wage they offer?
They offer a higher wage. Yes, they will find people to sweep schools, scrub toilets and care for the elderly. Those that fill those jobs will be legal residents or citizens. They will pay taxes instead of swiping an EBT card. AMERICANS will be better off. The immigrants that have gone home might not be doing well, but that is not my problem.
By all means, If you like, adopt a few dozen immigrant families, but please keep your grubby fingers out of my pockets when you pay the grocery bill.

Boy sure know what you are talking about..... When you don't see white people or other races doing those jobs now. They are open to all races now. Can you give me a proof that these other races are working now in these establishment now? Do you think whites or even blacks will take these jobs? Get real.

Americans are not doing the jobs because they are either working at higher paying job or siting on their asses collecting checks from Uncle Sam.
Once companies can't find cheap illegal labor, they will offer more for the jobs. Some of the employed folk may change jobs and a few of the ass sitters may take some too.
The next step would be to make the ass sitters uncomfortable enough on welfare that they might just take the rest of these new high paying jobs.
Please study supply and demand before you reply again.

I have studied all my post. It is you who better study before you reply. You keep posting that are not realistic. Read what you just posted then read it again to yourself if you really know what the hell you are talking about.

NO! I keep posting things that you disagree with. Your problem is that you listen to lies like "They do jobs that Americans won't do"
That is bullshit. The jobs need doing and people will pay what it takes to get people to do them.
I'm done with you for the evening. You're too ossified to hold an intelligent conversation.

 

[EatMorChikin]

There are some pretty disgusting comments on this thread so far. They remind me of the sentiments toward Japanese-Americans and how their property was stolen and they were treated at the outset of WWII without due process just as being suggested in this thread.

Not even the same thing, not close. These Japanese were here legally, but nice attempt at a straw man.

 

[EatMorChikin]

Trump wants to evict several million - so where does their property go? Some may have accumulated considerable assets. Will their property be confiscated by the government?

They sell their property. Gov't cannot confiscate private property.

Oh yes they can. If I was a felon and I was found with a gun, that gun would be confiscated. If I were a drug dealer, my possessions would be confiscated as ill gotten gain. If I failed to pay property taxes, my house could be seized by the county. If I fail to pay IRS, they can take my property to pay my obligation.
They justify that because I have broken the law. That same justification can be used to seize any property acquired in the US from any illegal immigrant.

And I would consider anything gained while here against the law ill gotten gains.

 

[EatMorChikin]

Trump wants to evict several million - so where does their property go? Some may have accumulated considerable assets. Will their property be confiscated by the government?

They sell their property. Gov't cannot confiscate private property.

Oh yes they can. If I was a felon and I was found with a gun, that gun would be confiscated. If I were a drug dealer, my possessions would be confiscated as ill gotten gain. If I failed to pay property taxes, my house could be seized by the county. If I fail to pay IRS, they can take my property to pay my obligation.
They justify that because I have broken the law. That same justification can be used to seize any property acquired in the US from any illegal immigrant.

Where in this country an illegal own a house or property? None. They name their property or properties to a relatives or their own oldest sibling that are also U.S. Citizen. So there's nothing to confiscate except maybe cars that they can just drive across the border.
Confiscation is the least to worry. There far more unimaginable gargantuan mess if we deport 11 millions illegals.

As I've said several times on this thread and hundreds of times on others: There is no need to deport 12 million people. All you need do is deport 1,000 with any "hearing" necessary held immediately with deportations occurring within 24 hours. There will be no time to sign over property, empty their bank accounts or drive their vehicles anywhere, They will simply leave the US and resurface 500 miles south of the border. (for the 90% that are Mexican)
The thing that needs to be done then is to publicize these deportations and let the remaining 11,999,000 pack up and leave on their own after loading up, selling or transferring property.
Monitor the flow and if and when it slows, grab up another 1,000, rinse and repeat.

Right on bro. Yes I saw your post in other thread but didn't even bother to read cause it's not the reality just like what you are posting now.
Do you expect these illegals just voluntary pack and go to the south? Good luck.
They left their country because they have nothing to begin with. Now you are talking 11 millions homeless and hopeless. I know you don't care.
What happened to their U.S. Citizen kids? Let say 1 yo to 18 years old living with illegal parents. Are they going to be deported? Or stay behind?
How do you eliminate 11 millions? Place marines on the street checking IDs all people. I mean ALL people. Raid houses, malls, schools, airports, churches, groceries all street corners etc. All of these has to go through legal process. I'm just being realistic.
Actually what you are proposing is similar to what the NAZI did to the Jews in WW2 rounding them up. BTW how did you come up 1,000? Deporting 1,000 will make you self deport?

Massive straw man argument! There we have it folks, it is similar to the Nazis rounding up the jews. Because we are suggesting to have illegals leave through the chimney? What a foolish statement.

 

[EatMorChikin]

What's evil about enforcing the law. Even immigrants have the right to a speedy trial.

These people are breaking our laws they MUST be removed before they become Democrat voters.

The way you treating them they are already democrat voters. Trust me the unity of these people are all time high.
They broke the law in coming here illegally to seek a better life for their family. But that doesn't mean they are committing crimes.

They committed a crime being here illegally! The stupidity of many of my fellow countrymen, my head is gonna explode!

 

[charwin95]

They sell their property. Gov't cannot confiscate private property.

Oh yes they can. If I was a felon and I was found with a gun, that gun would be confiscated. If I were a drug dealer, my possessions would be confiscated as ill gotten gain. If I failed to pay property taxes, my house could be seized by the county. If I fail to pay IRS, they can take my property to pay my obligation.
They justify that because I have broken the law. That same justification can be used to seize any property acquired in the US from any illegal immigrant.

Where in this country an illegal own a house or property? None. They name their property or properties to a relatives or their own oldest sibling that are also U.S. Citizen. So there's nothing to confiscate except maybe cars that they can just drive across the border.
Confiscation is the least to worry. There far more unimaginable gargantuan mess if we deport 11 millions illegals.

As I've said several times on this thread and hundreds of times on others: There is no need to deport 12 million people. All you need do is deport 1,000 with any "hearing" necessary held immediately with deportations occurring within 24 hours. There will be no time to sign over property, empty their bank accounts or drive their vehicles anywhere, They will simply leave the US and resurface 500 miles south of the border. (for the 90% that are Mexican)
The thing that needs to be done then is to publicize these deportations and let the remaining 11,999,000 pack up and leave on their own after loading up, selling or transferring property.
Monitor the flow and if and when it slows, grab up another 1,000, rinse and repeat.

Right on bro. Yes I saw your post in other thread but didn't even bother to read cause it's not the reality just like what you are posting now.
Do you expect these illegals just voluntary pack and go to the south? Good luck.
They left their country because they have nothing to begin with. Now you are talking 11 millions homeless and hopeless. I know you don't care.
What happened to their U.S. Citizen kids? Let say 1 yo to 18 years old living with illegal parents. Are they going to be deported? Or stay behind?
How do you eliminate 11 millions? Place marines on the street checking IDs all people. I mean ALL people. Raid houses, malls, schools, airports, churches, groceries all street corners etc. All of these has to go through legal process. I'm just being realistic.
Actually what you are proposing is similar to what the NAZI did to the Jews in WW2 rounding them up. BTW how did you come up 1,000? Deporting 1,000 will make you self deport?

Massive straw man argument! There we have it folks, it is similar to the Nazis rounding up the jews. Because we are suggesting to have illegals leave through the chimney? What a foolish statement.

And how would you suggest deporting 11 millions? Can you tell me how? I'm just being realistic.

 

[charwin95]

And YES go ahead eliminate 11millions illegals. Remember these people jobs are jobs that no whites or black wants. They do janitorial, agricultural, convalescence, home care, toilets etc.
Do you see other races working in all or any farms? There will be a time when you get old and you can not clean yourself. Who do you expect will clean you? Because that is what is going on right now.
How much do you think you can afford with your grocery bills? Think how much you paid last time you bought fruits in your grocery now multiply that 3 or 4 times the amount. If if if these food will even make to the groceries.

Do you know what happens when a business can't find an employee for the wage they offer?
They offer a higher wage. Yes, they will find people to sweep schools, scrub toilets and care for the elderly. Those that fill those jobs will be legal residents or citizens. They will pay taxes instead of swiping an EBT card. AMERICANS will be better off. The immigrants that have gone home might not be doing well, but that is not my problem.
By all means, If you like, adopt a few dozen immigrant families, but please keep your grubby fingers out of my pockets when you pay the grocery bill.

Boy sure know what you are talking about..... When you don't see white people or other races doing those jobs now. They are open to all races now. Can you give me a proof that these other races are working now in these establishment now? Do you think whites or even blacks will take these jobs? Get real.

Americans are not doing the jobs because they are either working at higher paying job or siting on their asses collecting checks from Uncle Sam.
Once companies can't find cheap illegal labor, they will offer more for the jobs. Some of the employed folk may change jobs and a few of the ass sitters may take some too.
The next step would be to make the ass sitters uncomfortable enough on welfare that they might just take the rest of these new high paying jobs.
Please study supply and demand before you reply again.

I have studied all my post. It is you who better study before you reply. You keep posting that are not realistic. Read what you just posted then read it again to yourself if you really know what the hell you are talking about.

NO! I keep posting things that you disagree with. Your problem is that you listen to lies like "They do jobs that Americans won't do"
That is bullshit. The jobs need doing and people will pay what it takes to get people to do them.
I'm done with you for the evening. You're too ossified to hold an intelligent conversation.

No Ernie. I'm not listening to lies. I'm telling you the reality in life. It is you who is lying.
You keep posting YOU don't care because that's all you know. Purely irresponsible. I'm telling you the reality but you keep dreaming. So its good for you to go sleep instead keeptelling me YOU Don't care.
Maybe you are dreaming. Since when you see whites, blacks or Asian working on those field? Do you see other races doing all the dirty work? Hello there wake up. Why would Americans take these kind of jobs when they can get better jobs.
Hello there wake up.

 

[Mad Scientist]

EDIT: Double Post.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Unless its bolted to the floor they can take it back to the country from whence they came. Or have a nice garage sale.

 

[Mad Scientist]

I'm willing to take a Janitorial job if I can get all the welfare that illegals do.

 

[EatMorChikin]

Oh yes they can. If I was a felon and I was found with a gun, that gun would be confiscated. If I were a drug dealer, my possessions would be confiscated as ill gotten gain. If I failed to pay property taxes, my house could be seized by the county. If I fail to pay IRS, they can take my property to pay my obligation.
They justify that because I have broken the law. That same justification can be used to seize any property acquired in the US from any illegal immigrant.

Where in this country an illegal own a house or property? None. They name their property or properties to a relatives or their own oldest sibling that are also U.S. Citizen. So there's nothing to confiscate except maybe cars that they can just drive across the border.
Confiscation is the least to worry. There far more unimaginable gargantuan mess if we deport 11 millions illegals.

As I've said several times on this thread and hundreds of times on others: There is no need to deport 12 million people. All you need do is deport 1,000 with any "hearing" necessary held immediately with deportations occurring within 24 hours. There will be no time to sign over property, empty their bank accounts or drive their vehicles anywhere, They will simply leave the US and resurface 500 miles south of the border. (for the 90% that are Mexican)
The thing that needs to be done then is to publicize these deportations and let the remaining 11,999,000 pack up and leave on their own after loading up, selling or transferring property.
Monitor the flow and if and when it slows, grab up another 1,000, rinse and repeat.

Right on bro. Yes I saw your post in other thread but didn't even bother to read cause it's not the reality just like what you are posting now.
Do you expect these illegals just voluntary pack and go to the south? Good luck.
They left their country because they have nothing to begin with. Now you are talking 11 millions homeless and hopeless. I know you don't care.
What happened to their U.S. Citizen kids? Let say 1 yo to 18 years old living with illegal parents. Are they going to be deported? Or stay behind?
How do you eliminate 11 millions? Place marines on the street checking IDs all people. I mean ALL people. Raid houses, malls, schools, airports, churches, groceries all street corners etc. All of these has to go through legal process. I'm just being realistic.
Actually what you are proposing is similar to what the NAZI did to the Jews in WW2 rounding them up. BTW how did you come up 1,000? Deporting 1,000 will make you self deport?

Massive straw man argument! There we have it folks, it is similar to the Nazis rounding up the jews. Because we are suggesting to have illegals leave through the chimney? What a foolish statement.

And how would you suggest deporting 11 millions? Can you tell me how? I'm just being realistic.

Well for one thing, by not having areas that protect these law breakers. Why is it that Americans have to follow laws, but our government can flaunt those laws. And the illegals themselves don't have to. And guess who pays the price, and foots the bill?

I love when people try to tell an American that it isn't possible to deport them. Last I checked their home isn't Saturn, it's just over the southern border. And I don't care if they aren't from Mexico, they let them pass through to invade us. So it is their problem not ours!

 

[chikenwing]

What happens to property of undocumented immigrants when evicted?

What happens? It crashes the fucking economy by killing the property values of everyone else, not to mention the lost taxes and labor we have no way to equalize...

The Conservative Case Against Enforcing Immigration Law
How Much Would It Cost to Deport 11 Million People?

bwhahahahah clowns are kinda funny at times,but mostly just freaking creepy.

 

[EatMorChikin]

As I've said several times on this thread and hundreds of times on others: There is no need to deport 12 million people. All you need do is deport 1,000 with any "hearing" necessary held immediately with deportations occurring within 24 hours. There will be no time to sign over property, empty their bank accounts or drive their vehicles anywhere, They will simply leave the US and resurface 500 miles south of the border. (for the 90% that are Mexican)
The thing that needs to be done then is to publicize these deportations and let the remaining 11,999,000 pack up and leave on their own after loading up, selling or transferring property.
Monitor the flow and if and when it slows, grab up another 1,000, rinse and repeat.

Right on bro. Yes I saw your post in other thread but didn't even bother to read cause it's not the reality just like what you are posting now.
Do you expect these illegals just voluntary pack and go to the south? Good luck.
They left their country because they have nothing to begin with. Now you are talking 11 millions homeless and hopeless. I know you don't care.
What happened to their U.S. Citizen kids? Let say 1 yo to 18 years old living with illegal parents. Are they going to be deported? Or stay behind?
How do you eliminate 11 millions? Place marines on the street checking IDs all people. I mean ALL people. Raid houses, malls, schools, airports, churches, groceries all street corners etc. All of these has to go through legal process. I'm just being realistic.
Actually what you are proposing is similar to what the NAZI did to the Jews in WW2 rounding them up. BTW how did you come up 1,000? Deporting 1,000 will make you self deport?

Yes, I do expect many to go home on their own. Those with some property can liquidate and probably do pretty well back home.
The kids? Yup they can stay with friends or relatives or go with their parents. I really don't care as long as it doesn't cost taxpayers a dime.
Check ID's? No. Unnecessary. IDs will be checked when they apply for services, jobs, register their kids in school, apply for a library card, try to rent a house or get arrested. I'd go for a bounty payment for documented evidence of illegal status.
Again a Lib falling for Godwin's... Pitiful! No! NOTHING like Nazis rounding up Jews. The Jews were not criminals. They were not illegal immigrants. I don't advocate putting Mexicans or any other illegal ion a forced labor camp or an oven.
The 1,000 number??? No special reason other than it would get a lot of press. Most every illegal would know someone that knew someone that new someone that had been deported.
Why should refusing to bake a cake for a gay wedding be prosecuted and illegal immigration not? Who the hell are you to decide what crimes are punished and which are rewarded?

No. You are very wrong all the way. Do you really expect these people will voluntarily deport themselves when there's nothing for them to live with?
Liquidate property. What property? Most of these people don't own homes. Where do you see an illegals that own property?
KIDS. I know you don't care. 1. Leave the kids here with relatives or friends. Let say you have 2 kids and your spouse. Overnight I gave you 3 kids to take care, day care, food, clothing and schooling. Is that acceptable to you? You will seek help from the govt. Or you can put them all FEMA Camp and we tax payers feed and take care of them. Which we never have to feed or care for them to begin with.
2. Deport the U.S. Citizen kids by the millions let say 20 or maybe more with the illegal parents. These kids with no food, no jobs, no home, no land. What do you think they will become. Criminals. When they are old they come back to US on their own. By the millions turned criminals.
ID. Not necessary?? You are deporting them now, how would you know which people are illegals without ID? You said check id when they apply for job, school or rent? How about other races all races? Boy sure you don't know what you are talking about. You are already eliminating them do you expect them to look for a job or go to school?
The NAZI rounded the Jews that's exactly what you are proposing to eliminate illegals. What's the difference?
What the hell is baking a cake for gay wedding got to do with eliminating illegals?
I'm not creating a law I'm just being realistic. It is you who are dictating a law Who the hell are you? You don't have a clue of what you are talking about. You are wrong all the way. I feel sorry for you.

THEY ARE ILLEGAL ALIENS. They do not belong here Their kids are born here under illegal circumstances. They are not my problem. I'd rather not pay higher taxes because you think they should be. Got it?

No. You don't get it. These kids are us citizens it is the law of the land. Now who the hell are you creating a law? I know you don't care cause that's all you know. And you better care because either direction you go tax payers will carry all these burden. I'm telling you the reality and you keep giving me your anecdotal opinion. And are you crying? Because all what you are telling me is just inhumane and irresponsible.

The kids can stay, the illegal parents must go, if that is the way they wanna play us.

 

[Ernie S.]

Do you know what happens when a business can't find an employee for the wage they offer?
They offer a higher wage. Yes, they will find people to sweep schools, scrub toilets and care for the elderly. Those that fill those jobs will be legal residents or citizens. They will pay taxes instead of swiping an EBT card. AMERICANS will be better off. The immigrants that have gone home might not be doing well, but that is not my problem.
By all means, If you like, adopt a few dozen immigrant families, but please keep your grubby fingers out of my pockets when you pay the grocery bill.

Boy sure know what you are talking about..... When you don't see white people or other races doing those jobs now. They are open to all races now. Can you give me a proof that these other races are working now in these establishment now? Do you think whites or even blacks will take these jobs? Get real.

Americans are not doing the jobs because they are either working at higher paying job or siting on their asses collecting checks from Uncle Sam.
Once companies can't find cheap illegal labor, they will offer more for the jobs. Some of the employed folk may change jobs and a few of the ass sitters may take some too.
The next step would be to make the ass sitters uncomfortable enough on welfare that they might just take the rest of these new high paying jobs.
Please study supply and demand before you reply again.

I have studied all my post. It is you who better study before you reply. You keep posting that are not realistic. Read what you just posted then read it again to yourself if you really know what the hell you are talking about.

NO! I keep posting things that you disagree with. Your problem is that you listen to lies like "They do jobs that Americans won't do"
That is bullshit. The jobs need doing and people will pay what it takes to get people to do them.
I'm done with you for the evening. You're too ossified to hold an intelligent conversation.

No Ernie. I'm not listening to lies. I'm telling you the reality in life. It is you who is lying.
You keep posting YOU don't care because that's all you know. Purely irresponsible. I'm telling you the reality but you keep dreaming. So its good for you to go sleep instead keeptelling me YOU Don't care.
Maybe you are dreaming. Since when you see whites, blacks or Asian working on those field? Do you see other races doing all the dirty work? Hello there wake up. Why would Americans take these kind of jobs when they can get better jobs.
Hello there wake up.

I live in a heavy agricultural area, as a matter of fact, I have about 500 acres of peanuts on the east border of my property. Ain't no Mexicans working there, just good old boys that can drive a tractor or fix one. Farm jobs here pay pretty good. A combine operator will be making $500/day.
In case you didn't know, we have machines that pick peanuts and cotton since the cheap help left.

 

[EatMorChikin]

Do you know what happens when a business can't find an employee for the wage they offer?
They offer a higher wage. Yes, they will find people to sweep schools, scrub toilets and care for the elderly. Those that fill those jobs will be legal residents or citizens. They will pay taxes instead of swiping an EBT card. AMERICANS will be better off. The immigrants that have gone home might not be doing well, but that is not my problem.
By all means, If you like, adopt a few dozen immigrant families, but please keep your grubby fingers out of my pockets when you pay the grocery bill.

Boy sure know what you are talking about..... When you don't see white people or other races doing those jobs now. They are open to all races now. Can you give me a proof that these other races are working now in these establishment now? Do you think whites or even blacks will take these jobs? Get real.

Americans are not doing the jobs because they are either working at higher paying job or siting on their asses collecting checks from Uncle Sam.
Once companies can't find cheap illegal labor, they will offer more for the jobs. Some of the employed folk may change jobs and a few of the ass sitters may take some too.
The next step would be to make the ass sitters uncomfortable enough on welfare that they might just take the rest of these new high paying jobs.
Please study supply and demand before you reply again.

I have studied all my post. It is you who better study before you reply. You keep posting that are not realistic. Read what you just posted then read it again to yourself if you really know what the hell you are talking about.

NO! I keep posting things that you disagree with. Your problem is that you listen to lies like "They do jobs that Americans won't do"
That is bullshit. The jobs need doing and people will pay what it takes to get people to do them.
I'm done with you for the evening. You're too ossified to hold an intelligent conversation.

No Ernie. I'm not listening to lies. I'm telling you the reality in life. It is you who is lying.
You keep posting YOU don't care because that's all you know. Purely irresponsible. I'm telling you the reality but you keep dreaming. So its good for you to go sleep instead keeptelling me YOU Don't care.
Maybe you are dreaming. Since when you see whites, blacks or Asian working on those field? Do you see other races doing all the dirty work? Hello there wake up. Why would Americans take these kind of jobs when they can get better jobs.
Hello there wake up.

You aren't even based in reality. You are just flinging your biased bullshit. Trying to convince others. Americans are sick of it, and there is nothing you can do to change that sentiment.

 

[charwin95]

Ernie, From your post #64.
#1. Deport us citizen kids with illegal parents oh! let say 20 on the low side to maybe 30 millions of these kids. Now you have millions and millions of these people with no land, no food, no jobs, no education, nowhere to go, no future. Nothing. What do you think will happen to them? What kind of jobs or any means to survive but CRIMES. When they are old enough they come back to US soil. Now you have these millions and millions of criminals and uneducated. Some have families that will bring with them. Since they are all legals they are now qualify to all welfare benefits like SSI. How many millions is that now? What kind of jobs do you think they can find here in U.S.?Except crimes.
Now they can petition their inlaws. Inlaws will petition their siblings. And so on and so on. All on welfare. Who pays for all of these? Tax payers. WHAT A BRILLIANT IDEA.
#2. Leave kids behind. Where they have better future or at least they will eat and education.
Who will take care of these kids let say 20 millions on the low side to maybe 30 millions? Relatives, friends, fema camps orphanage? If you are raising your own kids let say 2 or more. Over night I gave you 2 more kids to feed, schools, clothing, day care etc. Is that acceptable? You will seek help from government. Right. If you sent them to orphanage by the millions. Who will feed them? Tax payers. Which we never have to take of them before to begin with. WHAT A BRILLIANT IDEA.
Most or all will pick #2.
SA countries sent their unaccompanied children as young as 4yo to our border in Texas. As of July/14 there are about 30k kids that they shoved to take care. Only 30k and they are having a hard time placing them. Think about 20 or 30 millions of these kids.
EITHER way you choose there are grave consequences.
But I'm not stopping you or anybody. GO ahead deport these 11 millions immigrants.