What has caused 10,307% more deaths but has 68% less google searches then "ban guns"?

[JoeB131]

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So since a fetus is not human life, I assume the following is okay:

A woman has carried a fetus to term and her water breaks. She tells her husband (let's go ahead and assume that she has one for this example, what the hell) that "it's time", and after experiencing a brief panic-induced blackout, he helps her into the car and they drive to the hospital.

During the drive, the husband tries to cut the tension by teasing her about being a Bronco fan. She thinks a moment, and she decides that she doesn't want to bring a baby into a home with a non-Bronco fan. At Main Street, she changes her mind about giving birth and instructs her husband to drive her to an abortion clinic, where the fetus is removed and that's that.

Does anyone have a problem with this scenario? It's not a human life, so?

[MENTION=31057]JoeB131[/MENTION] ?
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More demagoguery from the right.

Which is understandable given the fact conservatives predicate their policy positions on dogma and lies, absent any facts, this being one of many examples.

More deflection from the Left. Another dodge.

And guess what? I'm pro choice. But see, not all of us are partisan ideologues like you. Most of us struggle with tough questions, we don't just avoid them because they're difficult. We're willing to be honest and actually think about and answer tough questions. And we're willing to be honest and admit that nothing is simple and black & white.

I can only imagine how crazy that must sound to someone like you.

Sometimes this place is just too easy.



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I don't struggle with the tough questions at all.

Here's the thing. I was brought up Catholic, and bought the whole anti-Choice horseshit they drilled into us.

And even after I stopped believing in Sky Pixies, I was still pretty anti-Abortion until the day my ex-boss showed me the true meaning of Christmas.

That's when I realized the Right Wing doesn't really care about abortion or prayer in Schools or any of the other social issues, they just use that to keep people upset and voting against their own economic interests.

So frankly, my attitude is to burn anything the social conservatives give a fuck about. Abortion on demand and you have to make that gay wedding cake or we confiscate your fucking business.

Totally works for me. Screw the religious idiots and what they want, they got us into this mess.

And I don't play the whole, "Well, what if she decides she wants an abortion before the umbilical chord is cut" bullshit you guys try to pull.

 

[Bfgrn]

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So since a fetus is not human life, I assume the following is okay:

A woman has carried a fetus to term and her water breaks. She tells her husband (let's go ahead and assume that she has one for this example, what the hell) that "it's time", and after experiencing a brief panic-induced blackout, he helps her into the car and they drive to the hospital.

During the drive, the husband tries to cut the tension by teasing her about being a Bronco fan. She thinks a moment, and she decides that she doesn't want to bring a baby into a home with a non-Bronco fan. At Main Street, she changes her mind about giving birth and instructs her husband to drive her to an abortion clinic, where the fetus is removed and that's that.

Does anyone have a problem with this scenario? It's not a human life, so?

[MENTION=31057]JoeB131[/MENTION] ?
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Do you understand the law and what the term Fetal Viability is?

 

[JoeB131]

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Another dodge, of course.

• Month 1?
• Month 2?
• Month 3?
• Month 4?
• Month 5?
• Month 6?
• Month 7?
• Month 8?

Aw, never mind, Joe, I'm not expecting an answer. I have to admit, sometimes I just like poking at liars and ideologues with a stick.

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I don't know, which point will piss off the religious nutters the most? because, honestly, I simply don't care.

Guy, I don't CARE when a woman has an abortion. It's her choice. It's her body. This is a bullshit issue that the Plutocrats use to fool people into voting themselves into servitude, and I refuse to fucking play.

 

[mal]

[


Another dodge, of course.

• Month 1?
• Month 2?
• Month 3?
• Month 4?
• Month 5?
• Month 6?
• Month 7?
• Month 8?

Aw, never mind, Joe, I'm not expecting an answer. I have to admit, sometimes I just like poking at liars and ideologues with a stick.

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I don't know, which point will piss off the religious nutters the most? because, honestly, I simply don't care.

Guy, I don't CARE when a woman has an abortion. It's her choice. It's her body. This is a bullshit issue that the Plutocrats use to fool people into voting themselves into servitude, and I refuse to fucking play.

She has her own Nervous System and Heartbeat... The Heartbeat she is stopping for Convenience is NOT her own.

Easiest way to avoid Abortion is to NOT get Pregnant.

Link me to the Abortion that Save a Woman's Life...

When you are done there give me the Stats on how many of the hundreds of thousands of Abortions last year were done because of a Rape.



peace...

 

[Bfgrn]

[


Another dodge, of course.

• Month 1?
• Month 2?
• Month 3?
• Month 4?
• Month 5?
• Month 6?
• Month 7?
• Month 8?

Aw, never mind, Joe, I'm not expecting an answer. I have to admit, sometimes I just like poking at liars and ideologues with a stick.

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I don't know, which point will piss off the religious nutters the most? because, honestly, I simply don't care.

Guy, I don't CARE when a woman has an abortion. It's her choice. It's her body. This is a bullshit issue that the Plutocrats use to fool people into voting themselves into servitude, and I refuse to fucking play.

She has her own Nervous System and Heartbeat... The Heartbeat she is stopping for Convenience is NOT her own.

Easiest way to avoid Abortion is to NOT get Pregnant.

Link me to the Abortion that Save a Woman's Life...

When you are done there give me the Stats on how many of the hundreds of thousands of Abortions last year were done because of a Rape.



peace...

So women are mere 'vessels' eh mal? Not full citizens with the right to self determination. Maybe a woman should be forced to register her uterus with the government...

 

[JoeB131]

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She has her own Nervous System and Heartbeat... The Heartbeat she is stopping for Convenience is NOT her own.

Easiest way to avoid Abortion is to NOT get Pregnant.

Link me to the Abortion that Save a Woman's Life...

When you are done there give me the Stats on how many of the hundreds of thousands of Abortions last year were done because of a Rape.



peace...

A couple points, since you aren't being a phony like Mac.

I think pro-choicers invoking of Rape and Incest (probably less than 1% of abortions performed) is about as disingenous as pro-lifers invoking third trimester abortions (also less than 1% of all abortions performed.)

I will even stipulate, the vast majority of abortions performed are performed on women who consented to the sex act, but didn't want to be pregnant, and most of them are performed long before the fetus is viable or anyone in that woman's life would even know she was pregnant.

Now, all of that said, yes, it would be nice if we had less abortions. I'm sure it's never an easy decision. Of course, the way you get there is not to ban it. The Philippines bans abortions, and they have more abortions than we do per capita.

The way you get to less abortions is better sex education, universal health care, and family and medical leave and a strong social welfare state. This is what most of those evil commie socialist Europeans do, and they have half as many abortions per capita than us God-loving Americans.

But not having a uterus, I don't have a dog in this fight, and I refuse to let religious nutters put crazy people in office who end up making my life more difficult.

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[Mac1958]

A couple points, since you aren't being a phony like Mac. .

Oh ouch!

So I'm not only dumb, but a phony! This hurts.

Tell me Joe, how am I being a phony?

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[mal]

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She has her own Nervous System and Heartbeat... The Heartbeat she is stopping for Convenience is NOT her own.

Easiest way to avoid Abortion is to NOT get Pregnant.

Link me to the Abortion that Save a Woman's Life...

When you are done there give me the Stats on how many of the hundreds of thousands of Abortions last year were done because of a Rape.



peace...

A couple points, since you aren't being a phony like Mac.

I think pro-choicers invoking of Rape and Incest (probably less than 1% of abortions performed) is about as disingenous as pro-lifers invoking third trimester abortions (also less than 1% of all abortions performed.)

I will even stipulate, the vast majority of abortions performed are performed on women who consented to the sex act, but didn't want to be pregnant, and most of them are performed long before the fetus is viable or anyone in that woman's life would even know she was pregnant.

Now, all of that said, yes, it would be nice if we had less abortions. I'm sure it's never an easy decision. Of course, the way you get there is not to ban it. The Philippines bans abortions, and they have more abortions than we do per capita.

The way you get to less abortions is better sex education, universal health care, and family and medical leave and a strong social welfare state. This is what most of those evil commie socialist Europeans do, and they have half as many abortions per capita than us God-loving Americans.

But not having a uterus, I don't have a dog in this fight, and I refuse to let religious nutters put crazy people in office who end up making my life more difficult.

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What percentage of Abortions are performed when there is a Beating Heart?...

As for Socialism/Communism being the Remedy for Abortion... Let me know how that's working in the Former Soviet and China.

WHO/Europe | Facts and figures about abortion in the European Region

Europe's rates don't look bad, I will give you that...

But in America the MOST Liberal/Progressive pro-Universal Healthcare States have the Highest Abortion Rates:

Facts About Abortion: U.S. Abortion Statistics

•In 2011, the highest number of reported abortions occurred in California (181,730), New York (138,370) and Florida (84,990); the fewest occurred in Wyoming (120), South Dakota (600) and North Dakota (1,250) (AGI).

•The 2011 abortion rates by state ranged from a low of 3.8 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15-44 in Mississippi (Wyoming had too few abortions for reliable tabulation) to a high of 28.6 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15-44 in New York (AGI).

Our Conservative States make the EU's Abortion Rates look Horrific.

New York Dominates in Liberal Policies and Access to Healthcare/Women's Health etc and they have an Absurdly HIGH Abortion Rate.

Abortion happens WAY more in Liberal/Progressive States and in that the Cities like NY than they do in Conservative areas.

And even with all of the Baby Killing, the Rate of Dependency on the System to Single Mothers etc is still Dominately in those same areas.

Explain that to me.



peace...

 

[healthmyths]

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She has her own Nervous System and Heartbeat... The Heartbeat she is stopping for Convenience is NOT her own.

Easiest way to avoid Abortion is to NOT get Pregnant.

Link me to the Abortion that Save a Woman's Life...

When you are done there give me the Stats on how many of the hundreds of thousands of Abortions last year were done because of a Rape.



peace...

A couple points, since you aren't being a phony like Mac.

I think pro-choicers invoking of Rape and Incest (probably less than 1% of abortions performed) is about as disingenous as pro-lifers invoking third trimester abortions (also less than 1% of all abortions performed.)

I will even stipulate, the vast majority of abortions performed are performed on women who consented to the sex act, but didn't want to be pregnant, and most of them are performed long before the fetus is viable or anyone in that woman's life would even know she was pregnant.

Now, all of that said, yes, it would be nice if we had less abortions. I'm sure it's never an easy decision. Of course, the way you get there is not to ban it. The Philippines bans abortions, and they have more abortions than we do per capita.

The way you get to less abortions is better sex education, universal health care, and family and medical leave and a strong social welfare state. This is what most of those evil commie socialist Europeans do, and they have half as many abortions per capita than us God-loving Americans.

But not having a uterus, I don't have a dog in this fight, and I refuse to let religious nutters put crazy people in office who end up making my life more difficult..

So I guess you are in favor though of banning all guns?

The point of the thread was to show the (correct spelling by the way).. disingenuousness of being in favor of killing 10 times the number of deaths by guns but "banning guns" gets all the attention.
Isn't that being disingenuous?

Why are you in favor of 50 million people being murdered but indignant over 500,000 in 50 years!

Don't understand this dichotomy between why it is so egregious to have the 2nd Amendment but boy a woman constantly having abortions just because she doesn't use FREE condoms wow... what a disconnect!

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Why don't any of you Conservatives care about those babies once they're born? You want to eliminate all forms of assistance while cutting taxes for billionaires who don't give a fuck about any one of you. What is in your minds when you want so many children born into poverty and needing government assistance?

Why don't any of you care about those children once they're born?

Bingo.

And, why do they fight so hard against Constitutionally guaranteed rights?

Hmmmmmmmm??

Bottom line about abortion is that its none of their business unless they are the woman. Otherwise, they need to butt out, quit meddling in other people's business and get their Big Government out of American's private lives.

 

[healthmyths]

Why don't any of you Conservatives care about those babies once they're born? You want to eliminate all forms of assistance while cutting taxes for billionaires who don't give a fuck about any one of you. What is in your minds when you want so many children born into poverty and needing government assistance?

Why don't any of you care about those children once they're born?

FACTS NOT opinions.. OK???
1) do conservatives care about babies after their born... ...
Adopted children are less likely to be white or of Hispanic origin than children in the general U.S. population, and they are more likely to be black;
While 60% of adoptions done by Whites...
Adoption USA: Race, ethnicity, and gender
(One of Mitt Romney's children adopted a black baby )

More Conservatives than Liberals Belong to Mixed-Race Families

Indeed, among families with step-children or adopted children,
11 percent of conservatives were living in mixed race households compared to 10 percent of liberals living in mixed-race households.
Similarly, 9.4 percent of Republicans living in step- or adopted families were in mixed-race households,
compared to only 8.8 percent of Democrats in such families. (Again, this small advantage for Republicans is not large enough to be statistically significant).
More Conservatives than Liberals Belong to Mixed-Race Families | FrontPage Magazine

2) where do you get the f..king lie about " You want to eliminate all forms of assistance "..

The bill would cut $40 billion from the food stamp program over the next 10 years.
A) It would also require adults between 18 and 50 without minor children to find a job or to enroll in a work-training program in order to receive benefits.
B) It would also limit the time those recipients could get benefits to three months.
Currently, states can extend food stamp benefits past three months for able-bodied people who are working or preparing for work as part of a job-training program.
C) The bill would also restrict people enrolled in other social welfare programs from automatically becoming eligible for food stamps.
D) In addition, the legislation would allow states to require food stamp recipients to be tested for drugs and
E) to stop lottery winners from getting benefits.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/20/u...bill-cutting-40-billion-from-food-stamps.html

So you understand now why NO one believes people like you because you deal in hyperbole. You don't substantiate! YOU GUESS...
Nothing but ignorance on display!

 

[nodoginnafight]

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She has her own Nervous System and Heartbeat... The Heartbeat she is stopping for Convenience is NOT her own.

Easiest way to avoid Abortion is to NOT get Pregnant.

Link me to the Abortion that Save a Woman's Life...

When you are done there give me the Stats on how many of the hundreds of thousands of Abortions last year were done because of a Rape.



peace...

A couple points, since you aren't being a phony like Mac.

I think pro-choicers invoking of Rape and Incest (probably less than 1% of abortions performed) is about as disingenous as pro-lifers invoking third trimester abortions (also less than 1% of all abortions performed.)

I will even stipulate, the vast majority of abortions performed are performed on women who consented to the sex act, but didn't want to be pregnant, and most of them are performed long before the fetus is viable or anyone in that woman's life would even know she was pregnant.

Now, all of that said, yes, it would be nice if we had less abortions. I'm sure it's never an easy decision. Of course, the way you get there is not to ban it. The Philippines bans abortions, and they have more abortions than we do per capita.

The way you get to less abortions is better sex education, universal health care, and family and medical leave and a strong social welfare state. This is what most of those evil commie socialist Europeans do, and they have half as many abortions per capita than us God-loving Americans.

But not having a uterus, I don't have a dog in this fight, and I refuse to let religious nutters put crazy people in office who end up making my life more difficult.

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If you believe that a fetus is a human being - then abortion is murder.
If a fetus is a human being, he or she is entitled to protection under our legal system. Having a uterus should not be a qualifying factor to hold a legal opinion.

That's like saying that a woman has no right to an opinion about legal cases that do not involve women. It's crazy.

Now, I am a Christian - but I am a Christian who is a firm believer in the separation of Church and State.

My opposition to abortion is based on a legal opinion that a fetus is entitled to protection under our legal systems. One of the fundamental purposes of laws is to protect those who are unable to protect themselves. Certainly, a fetus fits into that category.

 

[Pogo]

interesting thing about these gun death stats gun grabbers like to throw around. well over half of them are by personal choice.

another interesting perspective is this

Spoon, I don't know why you keep posting that thing. It's bullshit. I lived in New Orleans a dozen years; I promise you, there ain't nothing "tough" about it.

Your antidotal ‘evidence’ does not show that they don’t have some of the toughest gun laws. Instead, it shows that such laws are completely and totally ineffective. One more reason why the very concept of increasing gun control laws in this nation is asinine.

I'm relating real-world street reality there. The idea that strong or weak gun laws make a damn bit of difference is indeed asinine. This graphic is apparently trying to draw an inverse relationship between "gun laws" and the violence in that jurisdiction. Which is bullshit. Gun laws follow the violence, they don't lead it. And they're wrongheaded, because they do nothing for the root problem.

We've done all this before but some just keep on propagating ignorance.

"New Orleans gun laws". Please. That's like saying "Florida ski slopes". If it wasn't for that graphic I'd have had no idea New Orleans had any gun laws. If indeed it does.

 

[JoeB131]

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So I guess you are in favor though of banning all guns?

The point of the thread was to show the (correct spelling by the way).. disingenuousness of being in favor of killing 10 times the number of deaths by guns but "banning guns" gets all the attention.
Isn't that being disingenuous?

Why are you in favor of 50 million people being murdered but indignant over 500,000 in 50 years!

Don't understand this dichotomy between why it is so egregious to have the 2nd Amendment but boy a woman constantly having abortions just because she doesn't use FREE condoms wow... what a disconnect!

I don't proofread my posts, guy. Most of you aren't worth the effort and the few of you who are aren't douchebags about spelling.

There's no disingunuity here at all, guy. The problem with your premise is that it starts out with the assumption that a fetus is a person, a fact not recognized by law, or medicine or even the Bible.

You really can't start an argument based on a premise where there is no agreement.

On the other hand, the people killed by guns are without a doubt, people, and the vast majority of them didn't deserve it.

Now, that said, there are all sorts of reasons why women have abortions, Some good, some really not so much. But I wouldn't want to live in a country where the Government is policing vaginas.

ANd frankly, neither would you.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Abortion isn't death. It's "choice".

Nicer car. Better clothes. More free time. More dates.....

You are RIGHT!!!

2.9% abortions or 36,400 mothers, life in danger, 1% or 13,000 due rape/incest.

1.3 million total abortions

3 reasons for ELECTING abortion:
-- say that having a baby would interfere with work, school or other responsibilities; about
-- say they cannot afford a child; and
-- say they do not want to be a single parent or are having problems with their husband or partner (AGI).
Facts About Abortion: U.S. Abortion Statistics

Your screen name is appropriate. Women's health issues are truly mythical for you.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

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So I guess you are in favor though of banning all guns?

The point of the thread was to show the (correct spelling by the way).. disingenuousness of being in favor of killing 10 times the number of deaths by guns but "banning guns" gets all the attention.
Isn't that being disingenuous?

Why are you in favor of 50 million people being murdered but indignant over 500,000 in 50 years!

Don't understand this dichotomy between why it is so egregious to have the 2nd Amendment but boy a woman constantly having abortions just because she doesn't use FREE condoms wow... what a disconnect!

I don't proofread my posts, guy. Most of you aren't worth the effort and the few of you who are aren't douchebags about spelling.

There's no disingunuity here at all, guy. The problem with your premise is that it starts out with the assumption that a fetus is a person, a fact not recognized by law, or medicine or even the Bible.

You really can't start an argument based on a premise where there is no agreement.

On the other hand, the people killed by guns are without a doubt, people, and the vast majority of them didn't deserve it.

Now, that said, there are all sorts of reasons why women have abortions, Some good, some really not so much. But I wouldn't want to live in a country where the Government is policing vaginas.

ANd frankly, neither would you.

Sure they would. THEY want to police vaginas. They just don't want their itty, bitty tiny microscopic dicks to be under the same law or authority. Hypocrites.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

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She has her own Nervous System and Heartbeat... The Heartbeat she is stopping for Convenience is NOT her own.

Easiest way to avoid Abortion is to NOT get Pregnant.

Link me to the Abortion that Save a Woman's Life...

When you are done there give me the Stats on how many of the hundreds of thousands of Abortions last year were done because of a Rape.



peace...

A couple points, since you aren't being a phony like Mac.

I think pro-choicers invoking of Rape and Incest (probably less than 1% of abortions performed) is about as disingenous as pro-lifers invoking third trimester abortions (also less than 1% of all abortions performed.)

I will even stipulate, the vast majority of abortions performed are performed on women who consented to the sex act, but didn't want to be pregnant, and most of them are performed long before the fetus is viable or anyone in that woman's life would even know she was pregnant.

Now, all of that said, yes, it would be nice if we had less abortions. I'm sure it's never an easy decision. Of course, the way you get there is not to ban it. The Philippines bans abortions, and they have more abortions than we do per capita.

The way you get to less abortions is better sex education, universal health care, and family and medical leave and a strong social welfare state. This is what most of those evil commie socialist Europeans do, and they have half as many abortions per capita than us God-loving Americans.

But not having a uterus, I don't have a dog in this fight, and I refuse to let religious nutters put crazy people in office who end up making my life more difficult.

.

If you believe that a fetus is a human being - then abortion is murder.
If a fetus is a human being, he or she is entitled to protection under our legal system. Having a uterus should not be a qualifying factor to hold a legal opinion.

That's like saying that a woman has no right to an opinion about legal cases that do not involve women. It's crazy.

Now, I am a Christian - but I am a Christian who is a firm believer in the separation of Church and State.

My opposition to abortion is based on a legal opinion that a fetus is entitled to protection under our legal systems. ........

Then maybe a fetus should also have the right to vote?

When you give a nonautonomous being the same rights as a viable, autonomous human being, you are opening up a bottomless pit of liabilities that a woman, who may not know she is even pregnant, can bear.

You are subjugating one human life for another. Except that one is conscious, independent from the womb, most likely at least 18 years old and the other is still an organism with no consciousness or bodily functions that would allow it to survive outside a floating sea of amniotic fluid. Choose carefully.

 

[healthmyths]

A couple points, since you aren't being a phony like Mac.

I think pro-choicers invoking of Rape and Incest (probably less than 1% of abortions performed) is about as disingenous as pro-lifers invoking third trimester abortions (also less than 1% of all abortions performed.)

I will even stipulate, the vast majority of abortions performed are performed on women who consented to the sex act, but didn't want to be pregnant, and most of them are performed long before the fetus is viable or anyone in that woman's life would even know she was pregnant.

Now, all of that said, yes, it would be nice if we had less abortions. I'm sure it's never an easy decision. Of course, the way you get there is not to ban it. The Philippines bans abortions, and they have more abortions than we do per capita.

The way you get to less abortions is better sex education, universal health care, and family and medical leave and a strong social welfare state. This is what most of those evil commie socialist Europeans do, and they have half as many abortions per capita than us God-loving Americans.

But not having a uterus, I don't have a dog in this fight, and I refuse to let religious nutters put crazy people in office who end up making my life more difficult.

.

If you believe that a fetus is a human being - then abortion is murder.
If a fetus is a human being, he or she is entitled to protection under our legal system. Having a uterus should not be a qualifying factor to hold a legal opinion.

That's like saying that a woman has no right to an opinion about legal cases that do not involve women. It's crazy.

Now, I am a Christian - but I am a Christian who is a firm believer in the separation of Church and State.

My opposition to abortion is based on a legal opinion that a fetus is entitled to protection under our legal systems. ........

Then maybe a fetus should also have the right to vote?

When you give a nonautonomous being the same rights as a viable, autonomous human being, you are opening up a bottomless pit of liabilities that a woman, who may not know she is even pregnant, can bear.

You are subjugating one human life for another. Except that one is conscious, independent from the womb, most likely at least 18 years old and the other is still an organism with no consciousness or bodily functions that would allow it to survive outside a floating sea of amniotic fluid. Choose carefully.

So why the effort to have a national health system, i.e. Obamacare?
Is the state responsible for my health?
Why must I give up to Obamacare my decisions about my health care... yet a woman who without conscience has multiple abortions so she can have sexual intercourse can
terminate life without any government interference?
MY healthcare is my business. Just as a woman's womb is her business!
By what right did the government take over my healthcare?

You can't have it both ways.
You are subjugating my say so over my life by forcing me to adopt Obamacare! It will cost me money if I don't want to participate. Again against my will my money is taken!

More importantly who do you think YOU ARE GOD when you pompously say a fetus has no consciousness? How in the hell do YOU KNOW?
Again... my thread is simple. Why are you so supportive of women who callously have multiple abortions? Why do you encourage that truly animalistic self gratification?
I have never said BAN abortions as you have said BAN guns!
I agree there are situations where it is necessary...BUT come ON!
You condone women who because of wonton sexual gratification have multiple abortions? How truly uncivilized to condone such primitive behavior!

 

[hazlnut]

Just the FACTS folks!!!

Since 1973 there have been...
54,559,615 abortions
524,279 deaths from fire arms..
Deaths from abortion vs guns since 1973 ? Sifting Reality

That means there were 103 times more abortions then gun deaths.. remember abortions are legal!!!

If 44.7% of the abortions were by women that have already had ONE or more abortions isn't there something that can be done?

• 36.6% were performed on women with one or two prior abortions, and
• 8.1% were performed on women with three or more prior abortions (CDC).
• 44.7% or nearly half by women having abortions have one or more previously.

Facts About Abortion: U.S. Abortion Statistics

Now a simple measure of how people see these facts...

About 452,000 results for "ban guns" or 207% MORE google searches for "ban guns" then "ban abortions"!

About 147,000 results for "Ban abortions".


So can someone explain why 54,559,615 deaths are less important then 524,279 deaths--- YET fire-arm deaths get 70% more attention!

And when people like me simply ask why are 44.7% of these 54 million deaths done by people that have caused the deaths before are not held responsible?

Ah.. the sanctity of a woman's right!

Abortion is not death.

Fail.

LOL

 

[Wildman]

Just the FACTS folks!!!

Since 1973 there have been...
54,559,615 abortions
524,279 deaths from fire arms..
Deaths from abortion vs guns since 1973 ? Sifting Reality

That means there were 103 times more abortions then gun deaths.. remember abortions are legal!!!

If 44.7% of the abortions were by women that have already had ONE or more abortions isn't there something that can be done?

• 36.6% were performed on women with one or two prior abortions, and
• 8.1% were performed on women with three or more prior abortions (CDC).
• 44.7% or nearly half by women having abortions have one or more previously.

Facts About Abortion: U.S. Abortion Statistics

Now a simple measure of how people see these facts...

About 452,000 results for "ban guns" or 207% MORE google searches for "ban guns" then "ban abortions"!

About 147,000 results for "Ban abortions".


So can someone explain why 54,559,615 deaths are less important then 524,279 deaths--- YET fire-arm deaths get 70% more attention!

And when people like me simply ask why are 44.7% of these 54 million deaths done by people that have caused the deaths before are not held responsible?

Ah.. the sanctity of a woman's right!

You need to amend the Constitution.

where in the Constitution is a womans right to abortion ? i have searched the Constitution from one end to the other and i find no such word as "ABORTION" any where.