What is it about Socialism that makes you want it here in the United States?

[depotoo]

Here, if you blacked out, more than likely you would have received it in a matter of days, if you agreed.

It took one week. That is days. Seven of them.

Glad you are ok.

Thank you very much.

Here it would be less. If needed immediately, you would receive it immediately, a case of just that-

Here too. Had I gone to the hospital emergy or arrived in an ambulance I am sure they would have inserted the pacemaker ASAP.

I'm ten weeks post pacemaker implant, and doing well. I was diagnosed with atrial fibrillation several years ago. First indication of a problem was that I passed out while walking on my treadmill. I recovered within a few minutes and told my wife (we thought it was a fluke). It happened again just 90 minutes later while getting a bite to eat. My wife got me to the emergency room. I was scheduled for pacemaker implant less than 6 hours later. I went home the following day. Restriction is not to lift left arm (elbow) above shoulder level for 30 days. I returned to most normal activities after 30 days. I had reduced heavy yard work; added that back after a while as well.

Happy to still be here.

That is amazing. I was thinking I'm the only person in the world with a pacemaker. So you're 8 weeks ahead of me. I was released about 3 hours after the implant but I was told to lift my left arm as much as I could to flex my muscles out of the soreness. A blood vessel was giving me trouble during the operation and no amount of pain-killing injections seemed to help so it was very sore. Careful showering, no baths for ten days then remove the bandage (gauze) and then let the band-aids fall off on their own. I still have those. The stitches are internal so I won't need to return to the hospital until the scheduled control after two months. I feel good but I do get light-headed now and then and I don't know if that has anything to do with the heart or the operation.

Happy to still be here.

I am also happy you are still here.

Not me. But I know people that have had them.

 

[ph3iron]

Socialism what is so attractive about it, that you would give up your Constitutional Rights to have in implemented?

It destroys nations, which is why the Left want it here.

Gawd, the constitution.
A piece of paper written by slave owners and slave rapists?
Think I prefer all the rest of educated countries

Gawd, you mean all those countries that also owned and sold slaves? Those countries, since the beginning of time?

I just have to laugh. You are so cocky you can’t see the forest for the trees.

Yup, Sweden and Finland owned millions of them.
Are you really trying to compare our history with say the uk?
I'm still looking for uk lynchings in the 20s

 

[ph3iron]

We are a Republic, not a democracy..

That doesn't mean anything. Some level of Democracy is found in every country on earth. What your country calls itself is irrelevant. Here in Sweden we are officially a monarchy and yet until recently we were the top number one Democracy in the world .... and we are still right up there. Titles mean nothing and being a Republic does not mean there is no democratic principles in use.

Might want to take heed-

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John Adams was the second president of the U.S. a long, long time ago and he was politicin' as Davy Crokett used to say. What he thought and what he said is completely irrelevant. It's like reading what Adolf Hitler had to say about the multi-party system and using it as a guide to political philosphy today.

those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it,,,

those who follow primitive and outdated notions are doomed to fall through the cracks of life in "real-time". In any case, John Adams isn't history, He was only there when he was spinning political philosophy to boost his own personal goals.

Ugly hag?
Nice foul mouth
I missed your church again

 

[depotoo]

We are a Republic, not a democracy..

That doesn't mean anything. Some level of Democracy is found in every country on earth. What your country calls itself is irrelevant. Here in Sweden we are officially a monarchy and yet until recently we were the top number one Democracy in the world .... and we are still right up there. Titles mean nothing and being a Republic does not mean there is no democratic principles in use.

Might want to take heed-

View attachment 269933

John Adams was the second president of the U.S. a long, long time ago and he was politicin' as Davy Crokett used to say. What he thought and what he said is completely irrelevant. It's like reading what Adolf Hitler had to say about the multi-party system and using it as a guide to political philosphy today.

Only to those that don’t learn from history or have an agenda...

History told us the world was flat. I guess Cristobal Columbo sailed off the edge. It's his own fault for not learning from history. The U.S. was the "cat's meow" and unbeatable in two world wars but Ho Chi Minh didn't take history very seriously when he beat up "the good guys" and threw them out of his country.

No, that was the result of America tiring of the war, as well as the new sick philosophy to play a kinder version of war than our enemy.

 

[GLASNOST]

Here, if you blacked out, more than likely you would have received it in a matter of days, if you agreed.

It took one week. That is days. Seven of them.

Glad you are ok.

Thank you very much.

Here it would be less. If needed immediately, you would receive it immediately, a case of just that-

Here too. Had I gone to the hospital emergy or arrived in an ambulance I am sure they would have inserted the pacemaker ASAP.

I'm ten weeks post pacemaker implant, and doing well. I was diagnosed with atrial fibrillation several years ago. First indication of a problem was that I passed out while walking on my treadmill. I recovered within a few minutes and told my wife (we thought it was a fluke). It happened again just 90 minutes later while getting a bite to eat. My wife got me to the emergency room. I was scheduled for pacemaker implant less than 6 hours later. I went home the following day. Restriction is not to lift left arm (elbow) above shoulder level for 30 days. I returned to most normal activities after 30 days. I had reduced heavy yard work; added that back after a while as well.

Happy to still be here.

That is amazing. I was thinking I'm the only person in the world with a pacemaker. So you're 8 weeks ahead of me. I was released about 3 hours after the implant but I was told to lift my left arm as much as I could to flex my muscles out of the soreness. A blood vessel was giving me trouble during the operation and no amount of pain-killing injections seemed to help so it was very sore. Careful showering, no baths for ten days then remove the bandage (gauze) and then let the band-aids fall off on their own. I still have those. The stitches are internal so I won't need to return to the hospital until the scheduled control after two months. I feel good but I do get light-headed now and then and I don't know if that has anything to do with the heart or the operation.

Happy to still be here.

I am also happy you are still here.

Not me. But I know people that have had them.

I don't understand. Did I misquote you?

 

[GLASNOST]

Ugly hag?
Nice foul mouth

That's not "foul".

I missed your church again

You are still welcome again next Sunday. Bring ten dollars.

 

[GLASNOST]

That doesn't mean anything. Some level of Democracy is found in every country on earth. What your country calls itself is irrelevant. Here in Sweden we are officially a monarchy and yet until recently we were the top number one Democracy in the world .... and we are still right up there. Titles mean nothing and being a Republic does not mean there is no democratic principles in use.

Might want to take heed-

View attachment 269933

John Adams was the second president of the U.S. a long, long time ago and he was politicin' as Davy Crokett used to say. What he thought and what he said is completely irrelevant. It's like reading what Adolf Hitler had to say about the multi-party system and using it as a guide to political philosphy today.

Only to those that don’t learn from history or have an agenda...

History told us the world was flat. I guess Cristobal Columbo sailed off the edge. It's his own fault for not learning from history. The U.S. was the "cat's meow" and unbeatable in two world wars but Ho Chi Minh didn't take history very seriously when he beat up "the good guys" and threw them out of his country.

No, that was the result of America tiring of the war, as well as the new sick philosophy to play a kinder version of war than our enemy.

FIRST of all, if you were tired of war why did you start that one? The Vietnamese were not interested in war, you forced them into it by invading their country.
SECONDLY, what enemy are you talking about? You had no enemy there until you started shooting at them.

 

[depotoo]

Socialism what is so attractive about it, that you would give up your Constitutional Rights to have in implemented?

It destroys nations, which is why the Left want it here.

Gawd, the constitution.
A piece of paper written by slave owners and slave rapists?
Think I prefer all the rest of educated countries

Gawd, you mean all those countries that also owned and sold slaves? Those countries, since the beginning of time?

I just have to laugh. You are so cocky you can’t see the forest for the trees.

Yup, Sweden and Finland owned millions of them.
Are you really trying to compare our history with say the uk?
I'm still looking for uk lynchings in the 20s

You really can’t be serious. Really. Keep moving the bar, don’t you. Amazing. Each country has its own sordid history with slave trade, yet you wish to discount it. Their history, in number of years, lasted much longer than slave trade did in the US. Much, much longer.

 

[depotoo]

Might want to take heed-

View attachment 269933

John Adams was the second president of the U.S. a long, long time ago and he was politicin' as Davy Crokett used to say. What he thought and what he said is completely irrelevant. It's like reading what Adolf Hitler had to say about the multi-party system and using it as a guide to political philosphy today.

Only to those that don’t learn from history or have an agenda...

History told us the world was flat. I guess Cristobal Columbo sailed off the edge. It's his own fault for not learning from history. The U.S. was the "cat's meow" and unbeatable in two world wars but Ho Chi Minh didn't take history very seriously when he beat up "the good guys" and threw them out of his country.

No, that was the result of America tiring of the war, as well as the new sick philosophy to play a kinder version of war than our enemy.

FIRST of all, if you were tired of war why did you start that one? The Vietnamese were not interested in war, you forced them into it by invading their country.
SECONDLY, what enemy are you talking about? You had no enemy there until you started shooting at them.

Communists as the enemy. Taking over other countries of their choosing to enforce communist rule against others that lived relatively free and wished to remain so, by force, when they had no means to fight it.

 

[depotoo]

Here, if you blacked out, more than likely you would have received it in a matter of days, if you agreed.

It took one week. That is days. Seven of them.

Glad you are ok.

Thank you very much.

Here it would be less. If needed immediately, you would receive it immediately, a case of just that-

Here too. Had I gone to the hospital emergy or arrived in an ambulance I am sure they would have inserted the pacemaker ASAP.

I'm ten weeks post pacemaker implant, and doing well. I was diagnosed with atrial fibrillation several years ago. First indication of a problem was that I passed out while walking on my treadmill. I recovered within a few minutes and told my wife (we thought it was a fluke). It happened again just 90 minutes later while getting a bite to eat. My wife got me to the emergency room. I was scheduled for pacemaker implant less than 6 hours later. I went home the following day. Restriction is not to lift left arm (elbow) above shoulder level for 30 days. I returned to most normal activities after 30 days. I had reduced heavy yard work; added that back after a while as well.

Happy to still be here.

That is amazing. I was thinking I'm the only person in the world with a pacemaker. So you're 8 weeks ahead of me. I was released about 3 hours after the implant but I was told to lift my left arm as much as I could to flex my muscles out of the soreness. A blood vessel was giving me trouble during the operation and no amount of pain-killing injections seemed to help so it was very sore. Careful showering, no baths for ten days then remove the bandage (gauze) and then let the band-aids fall off on their own. I still have those. The stitches are internal so I won't need to return to the hospital until the scheduled control after two months. I feel good but I do get light-headed now and then and I don't know if that has anything to do with the heart or the operation.

Happy to still be here.

I am also happy you are still here.

Not me. But I know people that have had them.

I don't understand. Did I misquote you?

I quoted someone else’s experience here, which is the norm. Showing you how quickly one can get emergency care here, if needed.

 

[progressive hunter]

We are a Republic, not a democracy..

That doesn't mean anything. Some level of Democracy is found in every country on earth. What your country calls itself is irrelevant. Here in Sweden we are officially a monarchy and yet until recently we were the top number one Democracy in the world .... and we are still right up there. Titles mean nothing and being a Republic does not mean there is no democratic principles in use.

Might want to take heed-

View attachment 269933

John Adams was the second president of the U.S. a long, long time ago and he was politicin' as Davy Crokett used to say. What he thought and what he said is completely irrelevant. It's like reading what Adolf Hitler had to say about the multi-party system and using it as a guide to political philosphy today.

those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it,,,

those who follow primitive and outdated notions are doomed to fall through the cracks of life in "real-time". In any case, John Adams isn't history, He was only there when he was spinning political philosophy to boost his own personal goals.

and those that ignore history are doomed to re[peat it,,,

 

[GLASNOST]

John Adams was the second president of the U.S. a long, long time ago and he was politicin' as Davy Crokett used to say. What he thought and what he said is completely irrelevant. It's like reading what Adolf Hitler had to say about the multi-party system and using it as a guide to political philosphy today.

Only to those that don’t learn from history or have an agenda...

History told us the world was flat. I guess Cristobal Columbo sailed off the edge. It's his own fault for not learning from history. The U.S. was the "cat's meow" and unbeatable in two world wars but Ho Chi Minh didn't take history very seriously when he beat up "the good guys" and threw them out of his country.

No, that was the result of America tiring of the war, as well as the new sick philosophy to play a kinder version of war than our enemy.

FIRST of all, if you were tired of war why did you start that one? The Vietnamese were not interested in war, you forced them into it by invading their country.
SECONDLY, what enemy are you talking about? You had no enemy there until you started shooting at them.

Communists as the enemy. Taking over other countries of their choosing to enforce communist rule against others that lived relatively free and wished to remain so, by force, when they had no means to fight it.

Communism did not make the U.S. its' enemy. Communism did not "take over" or "invade" Vietnam and Ho Chi Minh did not "enforce communist rule".

It was the U.S. that "invaded" Vietnam and tried to "take over" and "enforce Capitalist rule". You really need to read something about Vietnam and what the U.S. did there. I am amazed that you have no knowledge about it.

 

[GLASNOST]

It took one week. That is days. Seven of them.
Thank you very much.

Here it would be less. If needed immediately, you would receive it immediately, a case of just that-

Here too. Had I gone to the hospital emergy or arrived in an ambulance I am sure they would have inserted the pacemaker ASAP.

I'm ten weeks post pacemaker implant, and doing well. I was diagnosed with atrial fibrillation several years ago. First indication of a problem was that I passed out while walking on my treadmill. I recovered within a few minutes and told my wife (we thought it was a fluke). It happened again just 90 minutes later while getting a bite to eat. My wife got me to the emergency room. I was scheduled for pacemaker implant less than 6 hours later. I went home the following day. Restriction is not to lift left arm (elbow) above shoulder level for 30 days. I returned to most normal activities after 30 days. I had reduced heavy yard work; added that back after a while as well.

Happy to still be here.

That is amazing. I was thinking I'm the only person in the world with a pacemaker. So you're 8 weeks ahead of me. I was released about 3 hours after the implant but I was told to lift my left arm as much as I could to flex my muscles out of the soreness. A blood vessel was giving me trouble during the operation and no amount of pain-killing injections seemed to help so it was very sore. Careful showering, no baths for ten days then remove the bandage (gauze) and then let the band-aids fall off on their own. I still have those. The stitches are internal so I won't need to return to the hospital until the scheduled control after two months. I feel good but I do get light-headed now and then and I don't know if that has anything to do with the heart or the operation.

Happy to still be here.

I am also happy you are still here.

Not me. But I know people that have had them.

I don't understand. Did I misquote you?

I quoted someone else’s experience here, which is the norm. Showing you how quickly one can get emergency care here, if needed.

I was sure you were talking about yourself.

 

[progressive hunter]

Only to those that don’t learn from history or have an agenda...

History told us the world was flat. I guess Cristobal Columbo sailed off the edge. It's his own fault for not learning from history. The U.S. was the "cat's meow" and unbeatable in two world wars but Ho Chi Minh didn't take history very seriously when he beat up "the good guys" and threw them out of his country.

No, that was the result of America tiring of the war, as well as the new sick philosophy to play a kinder version of war than our enemy.

FIRST of all, if you were tired of war why did you start that one? The Vietnamese were not interested in war, you forced them into it by invading their country.
SECONDLY, what enemy are you talking about? You had no enemy there until you started shooting at them.

Communists as the enemy. Taking over other countries of their choosing to enforce communist rule against others that lived relatively free and wished to remain so, by force, when they had no means to fight it.

Communism did not make the U.S. its' enemy. Communism did not "take over" or "invade" Vietnam and Ho Chi Minh did not "enforce communist rule".

It was the U.S. that "invaded" Vietnam and tried to "take over" and "enforce Capitalist rule". You really need to read something about Vietnam and what the U.S. did there. I am amazed that you have no knowledge about it.

thats not all together true,,,

vietnam was a drug war plain and simple and should have never happened,,,,neither capitalism or communism was the goal,,,

 

[depotoo]

Only to those that don’t learn from history or have an agenda...

History told us the world was flat. I guess Cristobal Columbo sailed off the edge. It's his own fault for not learning from history. The U.S. was the "cat's meow" and unbeatable in two world wars but Ho Chi Minh didn't take history very seriously when he beat up "the good guys" and threw them out of his country.

No, that was the result of America tiring of the war, as well as the new sick philosophy to play a kinder version of war than our enemy.

FIRST of all, if you were tired of war why did you start that one? The Vietnamese were not interested in war, you forced them into it by invading their country.
SECONDLY, what enemy are you talking about? You had no enemy there until you started shooting at them.

Communists as the enemy. Taking over other countries of their choosing to enforce communist rule against others that lived relatively free and wished to remain so, by force, when they had no means to fight it.

Communism did not make the U.S. its' enemy. Communism did not "take over" or "invade" Vietnam and Ho Chi Minh did not "enforce communist rule".

It was the U.S. that "invaded" Vietnam and tried to "take over" and "enforce Capitalist rule". You really need to read something about Vietnam and what the U.S. did there. I am amazed that you have no knowledge about it.

Well, we know you have been fed a load of bull. I suspect by communists themselves, or are you among their privileged few?

 

[GLASNOST]

That doesn't mean anything. Some level of Democracy is found in every country on earth. What your country calls itself is irrelevant. Here in Sweden we are officially a monarchy and yet until recently we were the top number one Democracy in the world .... and we are still right up there. Titles mean nothing and being a Republic does not mean there is no democratic principles in use.

Might want to take heed-

View attachment 269933

John Adams was the second president of the U.S. a long, long time ago and he was politicin' as Davy Crokett used to say. What he thought and what he said is completely irrelevant. It's like reading what Adolf Hitler had to say about the multi-party system and using it as a guide to political philosphy today.

those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it,,,

those who follow primitive and outdated notions are doomed to fall through the cracks of life in "real-time". In any case, John Adams isn't history, He was only there when he was spinning political philosophy to boost his own personal goals.

and those that ignore history are doomed to re[peat it,,,

That makes absolutely no sense. It's just one of the nonsense quotes like "hot water freezes faster" or "taking away guns is the first step to communism" or "lightning never strikes twice in the same place". It's all nonsense.

 

[progressive hunter]

Might want to take heed-

View attachment 269933

John Adams was the second president of the U.S. a long, long time ago and he was politicin' as Davy Crokett used to say. What he thought and what he said is completely irrelevant. It's like reading what Adolf Hitler had to say about the multi-party system and using it as a guide to political philosphy today.

those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it,,,

those who follow primitive and outdated notions are doomed to fall through the cracks of life in "real-time". In any case, John Adams isn't history, He was only there when he was spinning political philosophy to boost his own personal goals.

and those that ignore history are doomed to re[peat it,,,

That makes absolutely no sense. It's just one of the nonsense quotes like "hot water freezes faster" or "taking away guns is the first step to communism" or "lightning never strikes twice in the same place". It's all nonsense.

thanks for your opinion,,,consider it noted and rejected because its a dumbass opinion,,,

 

[Corky]

Most of the posters don't even know the basic definition of Socialism.

But that doesn't stop them from babbling on about it year after year.

Read more -- type less.

 

[GLASNOST]

History told us the world was flat. I guess Cristobal Columbo sailed off the edge. It's his own fault for not learning from history. The U.S. was the "cat's meow" and unbeatable in two world wars but Ho Chi Minh didn't take history very seriously when he beat up "the good guys" and threw them out of his country.

No, that was the result of America tiring of the war, as well as the new sick philosophy to play a kinder version of war than our enemy.

FIRST of all, if you were tired of war why did you start that one? The Vietnamese were not interested in war, you forced them into it by invading their country.
SECONDLY, what enemy are you talking about? You had no enemy there until you started shooting at them.

Communists as the enemy. Taking over other countries of their choosing to enforce communist rule against others that lived relatively free and wished to remain so, by force, when they had no means to fight it.

Communism did not make the U.S. its' enemy. Communism did not "take over" or "invade" Vietnam and Ho Chi Minh did not "enforce communist rule".

It was the U.S. that "invaded" Vietnam and tried to "take over" and "enforce Capitalist rule". You really need to read something about Vietnam and what the U.S. did there. I am amazed that you have no knowledge about it.

thats not all together true,,,

vietnam was a drug war plain and simple and should have never happened,,,,neither capitalism or communism was the goal,,,

Well, you can debate that with me if you like but I don't think you will win because it was all a money-laundering scheme to keep the circle of TAX FOR WAR - ARMS MANUFACTURING - POLITICAL FAVOURS .... better known as the MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. But the important thing is that the U.S. "invaded" Vietnam and tried to "enforce Capitalist rule" in order to hold the scheme together. This applies even if you believe it was fundamentally a clandestine drug war.

 

[progressive hunter]

No, that was the result of America tiring of the war, as well as the new sick philosophy to play a kinder version of war than our enemy.

FIRST of all, if you were tired of war why did you start that one? The Vietnamese were not interested in war, you forced them into it by invading their country.
SECONDLY, what enemy are you talking about? You had no enemy there until you started shooting at them.

Communists as the enemy. Taking over other countries of their choosing to enforce communist rule against others that lived relatively free and wished to remain so, by force, when they had no means to fight it.

Communism did not make the U.S. its' enemy. Communism did not "take over" or "invade" Vietnam and Ho Chi Minh did not "enforce communist rule".

It was the U.S. that "invaded" Vietnam and tried to "take over" and "enforce Capitalist rule". You really need to read something about Vietnam and what the U.S. did there. I am amazed that you have no knowledge about it.

thats not all together true,,,

vietnam was a drug war plain and simple and should have never happened,,,,neither capitalism or communism was the goal,,,

Well, you can debate that with me if you like but I don't think you will win because it was all a money-laundering scheme to keep the circle of TAX FOR WAR - ARMS MANUFACTURING - POLITICAL FAVOURS .... better known as the MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. But the important thing is that the U.S. "invaded" Vietnam and tried to "enforce Capitalist rule" in order to hold the scheme together. This applies even if you believe it was fundamentally a clandestine drug war.

well it is history and irrelevant according to you, so why would you debate it???