What is the 5 billion for?

[H B Lowrie]

So, you thnk we should waste 5 billion on a stupid wall because we spend that much money other places?

WE don;t want your stupid wall because it it would have little affect on illegal immigration.

Stopping invaders, slowing down the drug flow, saving American lives is hardly what I call stupid. Last year our Border Patrol apprehended 130,000 people at the border, so besides being brainwashed by the MSM, what makes you think that a wall would have little effect on that problem?


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I said building Trumps stupid 40' concrete wall was stupid. Put down that gun & get an education.

First,. most illegal immigrants in this country did not cross the Mexican border away from a crossing point.

Second, there are things like ladders & tunnels & just going around the fence.

So why waste 5 billion on that Trump wall.

Why not spend it on replacing fences & building more fences, increasing border patrols, more money to go after those who stay beyond their VISAs, those that come hrre as tourists & stay, etc etc etc.

THAT is the fucking question.

You can post all the best arguments with credible links about visas and these POTUS apologists only hear you saying "The Wall is a waste cuz I hate DJT!" Folks, for starters, if you are really interested in border security and immigration reform, please think visas!

Farm workers here, come in on time and leave on time

Most farm workers are illegals............and the corps using them don't go through the legal channels of the Dept of Labor for temp and seasonal workers.

And we all depend upon it, what, we're going to pay americans to do that work? Not hardly. Ever.

 

[Lesh]

The Dems won't approve shit because they want illegal immigration to help wipe out the white race in this country.

Huh?

This is about "keeping America white"???

Would "non muslim terrorists" be a better choice of words?

For what exactly?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If you want an honest discussion on the funds we will continue..........if you want to be part of the trolling on that then we will not.........I know where that button is again.......wouldn't make a difference to me…………

Me neither. I’m pointing out that Trump has lied (as the entire world knows) and I’m happy to keep beating you over the head with that as long as you keep denying it. It would probably be wise of you to put me on ignore again….

Of course you could always tell the truth. But that isn’t an option. You can’t speak ill of your master.

I know it will save money in the long run......that is all I need to know........I also know that for my entire lifetime the people of this country have been saying fix this..............and they have ignored us.............I see a chance to fix problems for the CBP here...........so He can shut down for as long as he needs for all I care...........If it goes on too long...........Federal Employees can find a new job...........they can be replaced later or rehired later...........I really don't care at this point……..


They need to do this.........and if they will not........oh well..........doesn't mean squat to me if we are still down in the summer.

When he caves, will you speak ill of your master then?

I have stated my views...........I understand the situation........and I am in agreement with fighting for those funds..........If you want to be a parrot and keep saying the same thing over again..........I might put you back there.........As I have said, it will save us money in the long run to secure the border.........

If he caves he's fucked................that is the message he was sent........

But your "understanding" is flawed.

A 40' concrete wall is do very little to cubn illegal immigration & even less to stem the influx of illegal drugs.

As long as you insist on being wrong on this aspect, the resty of your posts are just BS.

Walls work.........everywhere they are used and improved crossing reduce.........They are harer places to get in........PERIOD.

They are not 40 foot...........You pulling data out your ass again.

So instead of nice views of the Rio Grande...
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we have a concrete wall and barbed wire.

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High price to pay to keep out a bunch of nannies and gardeners.

You mean the same nannies and gardeners that attacked our border patrol with bottles and rocks, the same nannies and gardeners that had to be tear gassed to get them to back off, the same nannies and gardeners that killed a CA police officer for a simple DUI stop, the same nannies and gardeners that are members of MS-13?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Stopping invaders, slowing down the drug flow, saving American lives is hardly what I call stupid. Last year our Border Patrol apprehended 130,000 people at the border, so besides being brainwashed by the MSM, what makes you think that a wall would have little effect on that problem?


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I said building Trumps stupid 40' concrete wall was stupid. Put down that gun & get an education.

First,. most illegal immigrants in this country did not cross the Mexican border away from a crossing point.

Second, there are things like ladders & tunnels & just going around the fence.

So why waste 5 billion on that Trump wall.

Why not spend it on replacing fences & building more fences, increasing border patrols, more money to go after those who stay beyond their VISAs, those that come hrre as tourists & stay, etc etc etc.

THAT is the fucking question.

Well here is the fucken answer: Trump said there would be different applications for different areas. Trump does not make the plans for fences or walls. That is the job of our border specialists, engineers and military.

Ignoring the border problem will not make the Visa problem go away. The border has a higher priority since unlike those who come in with Visas, people crossing the border are not checked out by our government first. Even if you fix the Visa problems, it’s fruitless if they can simply walk across the border instead.


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Bull fucking shit. Trump wants a 40' concrete wall. He said it.

He just sad he still wants it.

Have your fat assed orange buddy tewll us what he wants where. he had two years to plan it.

The truth is Congress would approve a border security bill that included fences. Not this 40' concrete wall which is a waste of money.

But hey, Trump said it is only 5.6 Billion & the amount is so little it is irrelevant how it is spent.

"Congress would approve"? Why haven't they proposed one?

Answer: they care less about border security than they do Donald Trump.

The Senate has approved a CR with border security money in it. The Dems in the House have a CR Bill ready to pass with border security money in it.

What we HAVEN'T had is a bill pass the GOP House that the GOP Senate could pass.

Sure they made the offer......one fifth of what Trump wanted.

How about if we offer Democrats one-fifth of the money for the food stamp program? How about if Republicans offered one-fifth of the money for Planned Parenthood? How about if the Republicans offered one-fifth of what they wanted for environmental improvements?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The Dems won't approve shit because they want illegal immigration to help wipe out the white race in this country.

Huh?

This is about "keeping America white"???

So what's wrong with that? Can you name me one race of people outside of white liberals that are stupid enough to support a party that wants to make them a minority in their own country?

 

[candycorn]

Me neither. I’m pointing out that Trump has lied (as the entire world knows) and I’m happy to keep beating you over the head with that as long as you keep denying it. It would probably be wise of you to put me on ignore again….

Of course you could always tell the truth. But that isn’t an option. You can’t speak ill of your master.

When he caves, will you speak ill of your master then?

I have stated my views...........I understand the situation........and I am in agreement with fighting for those funds..........If you want to be a parrot and keep saying the same thing over again..........I might put you back there.........As I have said, it will save us money in the long run to secure the border.........

If he caves he's fucked................that is the message he was sent........

But your "understanding" is flawed.

A 40' concrete wall is do very little to cubn illegal immigration & even less to stem the influx of illegal drugs.

As long as you insist on being wrong on this aspect, the resty of your posts are just BS.

Walls work.........everywhere they are used and improved crossing reduce.........They are harer places to get in........PERIOD.

They are not 40 foot...........You pulling data out your ass again.

So instead of nice views of the Rio Grande...
View attachment 238154


we have a concrete wall and barbed wire.

View attachment 238155

High price to pay to keep out a bunch of nannies and gardeners.

You mean the same nannies and gardeners that attacked our border patrol with bottles and rocks, the same nannies and gardeners that had to be tear gassed to get them to back off, the same nannies and gardeners that killed a CA police officer for a simple DUI stop, the same nannies and gardeners that are members of MS-13?

I guess using the same metric of only picking out the worst people as an example, New York state only produces mass murders and perverts; Conservative heroes Dylan Root and Tim McVeigh are both from there as well as your blob. We would do better to build a wall NY it would seem.

 

[Lesh]

The Dems won't approve shit because they want illegal immigration to help wipe out the white race in this country.

Huh?

This is about "keeping America white"???

So what's wrong with that? Can you name me one race of people outside of white liberals that are stupid enough to support a party that wants to make them a minority in their own country?

Your paranoid racism is duly noted.

I wonder how many of your fellow Trumpers are willing to say that out loud with you

 

[Lesh]

Sure they made the offer......one fifth of what Trump wanted.

Exactly the amount appropriated last year...much of which went unspent

 

[eagle1462010]

Stopping invaders, slowing down the drug flow, saving American lives is hardly what I call stupid. Last year our Border Patrol apprehended 130,000 people at the border, so besides being brainwashed by the MSM, what makes you think that a wall would have little effect on that problem?


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I said building Trumps stupid 40' concrete wall was stupid. Put down that gun & get an education.

First,. most illegal immigrants in this country did not cross the Mexican border away from a crossing point.

Second, there are things like ladders & tunnels & just going around the fence.

So why waste 5 billion on that Trump wall.

Why not spend it on replacing fences & building more fences, increasing border patrols, more money to go after those who stay beyond their VISAs, those that come hrre as tourists & stay, etc etc etc.

THAT is the fucking question.

You can post all the best arguments with credible links about visas and these POTUS apologists only hear you saying "The Wall is a waste cuz I hate DJT!" Folks, for starters, if you are really interested in border security and immigration reform, please think visas!

Farm workers here, come in on time and leave on time

Most farm workers are illegals............and the corps using them don't go through the legal channels of the Dept of Labor for temp and seasonal workers.

And we all depend upon it, what, we're going to pay americans to do that work? Not hardly. Ever.

Not the point Bozo. That is the legal way to do it

 

[RealDave]

The Dems won't approve shit because they want illegal immigration to help wipe out the white race in this country.

Huh?

This is about "keeping America white"???

So what's wrong with that? Can you name me one race of people outside of white liberals that are stupid enough to support a party that wants to make them a minority in their own country?

Only racist fucks worry about that. Like you & Trump.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The Dems won't approve shit because they want illegal immigration to help wipe out the white race in this country.

Huh?

This is about "keeping America white"???

So what's wrong with that? Can you name me one race of people outside of white liberals that are stupid enough to support a party that wants to make them a minority in their own country?

Only racist fucks worry about that. Like you & Trump.

Then every other race outside of the US must be racist then, because only a moron would support the elimination of their own race.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The Dems won't approve shit because they want illegal immigration to help wipe out the white race in this country.

Huh?

This is about "keeping America white"???

So what's wrong with that? Can you name me one race of people outside of white liberals that are stupid enough to support a party that wants to make them a minority in their own country?

Your paranoid racism is duly noted.

I wonder how many of your fellow Trumpers are willing to say that out loud with you

Not many, and that's why our country is going to hell. Political correctness is nothing more than subverting free speech in the US.

 

[eagle1462010]

Standard liberal tactics.........Bait it into a your a Racist thread...........

5 Billion is for Border Security that CBP has been asking for .......over a decade in a lot of cases.........

Pony the Fuck up Dems.......or let the Gov't Shutdown until the 2020 elections.....I don't care.

 

[Erinwltr]

Standard liberal tactics.........Bait it into a your a Racist thread...........

5 Billion is for Border Security that CBP has been asking for .......over a decade in a lot of cases.........

Pony the Fuck up Dems.......or let the Gov't Shutdown until the 2020 elections.....I don't care.

Such BS. Republicans didn't pony up when they had total control of the federal government for two years. Instead the USA got a rich mans tax cut.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Standard liberal tactics.........Bait it into a your a Racist thread...........

5 Billion is for Border Security that CBP has been asking for .......over a decade in a lot of cases.........

Pony the Fuck up Dems.......or let the Gov't Shutdown until the 2020 elections.....I don't care.

Such BS. Republicans didn't pony up when they had total control of the federal government for two years. Instead the USA got a rich mans tax cut.

Hmmm. I didn't know I was rich. Wait until I tell my parents!!!!!

 

[eagle1462010]

Standard liberal tactics.........Bait it into a your a Racist thread...........

5 Billion is for Border Security that CBP has been asking for .......over a decade in a lot of cases.........

Pony the Fuck up Dems.......or let the Gov't Shutdown until the 2020 elections.....I don't care.

Such BS. Republicans didn't pony up when they had total control of the federal government for two years. Instead the USA got a rich mans tax cut.

Yawn..........the establishment doesn't want the Border Secure......if they did it would have been done decades ago....

The only thing BS is that the Wall will not work..........Now that is BS....everywhere the infrastructure has been improved the volume of illegals going in there has decreased.......

Other things you said are just standard Liberal BS talking points.

 

[Erinwltr]

Standard liberal tactics.........Bait it into a your a Racist thread...........

5 Billion is for Border Security that CBP has been asking for .......over a decade in a lot of cases.........

Pony the Fuck up Dems.......or let the Gov't Shutdown until the 2020 elections.....I don't care.

Such BS. Republicans didn't pony up when they had total control of the federal government for two years. Instead the USA got a rich mans tax cut.

Hmmm. I didn't know I was rich. Wait until I tell my parents!!!!!

Good for you, Ray. You're not rich and got a rich mans tax cut. Fitting.

 

[Erinwltr]

Standard liberal tactics.........Bait it into a your a Racist thread...........

5 Billion is for Border Security that CBP has been asking for .......over a decade in a lot of cases.........

Pony the Fuck up Dems.......or let the Gov't Shutdown until the 2020 elections.....I don't care.

Such BS. Republicans didn't pony up when they had total control of the federal government for two years. Instead the USA got a rich mans tax cut.

Yawn..........the establishment doesn't want the Border Secure......if they did it would have been done decades ago....

The only thing BS is that the Wall will not work..........Now that is BS....everywhere the infrastructure has been improved the volume of illegals going in there has decreased.......

Other things you said are just standard Liberal BS talking points.

What is up with the ellipses?

 

[eagle1462010]

Standard liberal tactics.........Bait it into a your a Racist thread...........

5 Billion is for Border Security that CBP has been asking for .......over a decade in a lot of cases.........

Pony the Fuck up Dems.......or let the Gov't Shutdown until the 2020 elections.....I don't care.

Such BS. Republicans didn't pony up when they had total control of the federal government for two years. Instead the USA got a rich mans tax cut.

Yawn..........the establishment doesn't want the Border Secure......if they did it would have been done decades ago....

The only thing BS is that the Wall will not work..........Now that is BS....everywhere the infrastructure has been improved the volume of illegals going in there has decreased.......

Other things you said are just standard Liberal BS talking points.

What is up with the ellipses?

They are circles and blew out on the sides......

I put the data up a long time ago in this thread............from the CBP..........I agree with funding that...........and that's it.........in regards to the shutdown......keep it down.........If these Wankers can't spend 5 billion on needed upgrades for Border Security after all the BS they've paid for over the years........well they can blow me.

 

[Erinwltr]

Standard liberal tactics.........Bait it into a your a Racist thread...........

5 Billion is for Border Security that CBP has been asking for .......over a decade in a lot of cases.........

Pony the Fuck up Dems.......or let the Gov't Shutdown until the 2020 elections.....I don't care.

Such BS. Republicans didn't pony up when they had total control of the federal government for two years. Instead the USA got a rich mans tax cut.

Yawn..........the establishment doesn't want the Border Secure......if they did it would have been done decades ago....

The only thing BS is that the Wall will not work..........Now that is BS....everywhere the infrastructure has been improved the volume of illegals going in there has decreased.......

Other things you said are just standard Liberal BS talking points.

What is up with the ellipses?

They are circles and blew out on the sides......

I put the data up a long time ago in this thread............from the CBP..........I agree with funding that...........and that's it.........in regards to the shutdown......keep it down.........If these Wankers can't spend 5 billion on needed upgrades for Border Security after all the BS they've paid for over the years........well they can blow me.

No one is gonna blow you, Ellipse.