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But that does not mean that socialism and command based economic systems are the same thing.

they are essentially the same especially given that both terms have several and imprecise meanings!!
Google:
command economy
noun
1.
a socialist economic system in which production anddistribution of goods and services are controlled by thegovernment and industry is mostly publicly owned.
I see that some people have produced explanations that make one a part of the other. I see them as being commonly used together but separate. For example, while Russia is clearly a command based economy, they have also embraced capitalism and now spit on the word socialism.

they may spit in socialism but they still have huge commands from central govt which is the point of socialism. In any case the debate remains the same: does freedom work better than liberalism communism socialism monarchy command fascism and dictatorship etc etc.
 
I like the old way best. where if we didn't like something or someone we labeled them communist, fascist, socialist, traitor, sellout, liberal, conservative and so on. Seems like a waste of good names.
 
I like the old way best. where if we didn't like something or someone we labeled them communist, fascist, socialist, traitor, sellout, liberal, conservative and so on. Seems like a waste of good names.

can you try that again only in better english so its makes sense? better yet why not tell us if you're freedom or govt and why.
 
But that does not mean that socialism and command based economic systems are the same thing.

they are essentially the same especially given that both terms have several and imprecise meanings!!
Google:
command economy
noun
1.
a socialist economic system in which production anddistribution of goods and services are controlled by thegovernment and industry is mostly publicly owned.
I see that some people have produced explanations that make one a part of the other. I see them as being commonly used together but separate. For example, while Russia is clearly a command based economy, they have also embraced capitalism and now spit on the word socialism.

they may spit in socialism but they still have huge commands from central govt which is the point of socialism. In any case the debate remains the same: does freedom work better than liberalism communism socialism monarchy command fascism and dictatorship etc etc.
Incorrect. Central government is not a requirement for socialism.
 
But that does not mean that socialism and command based economic systems are the same thing.

they are essentially the same especially given that both terms have several and imprecise meanings!!
Google:
command economy
noun
1.
a socialist economic system in which production anddistribution of goods and services are controlled by thegovernment and industry is mostly publicly owned.
I see that some people have produced explanations that make one a part of the other. I see them as being commonly used together but separate. For example, while Russia is clearly a command based economy, they have also embraced capitalism and now spit on the word socialism.

they may spit in socialism but they still have huge commands from central govt which is the point of socialism. In any case the debate remains the same: does freedom work better than liberalism communism socialism monarchy command fascism and dictatorship etc etc.
Well that goes without saying. Of course free market capitalism outperforms liberalism communism socialism monarchy command fascism and dictatorship etc etc. Why do you think liberalism communism socialism monarchy command fascism and dictatorship etc. are all borrowing from free market capitalism?
 
But that does not mean that socialism and command based economic systems are the same thing.

they are essentially the same especially given that both terms have several and imprecise meanings!!
Google:
command economy
noun
1.
a socialist economic system in which production anddistribution of goods and services are controlled by thegovernment and industry is mostly publicly owned.
I see that some people have produced explanations that make one a part of the other. I see them as being commonly used together but separate. For example, while Russia is clearly a command based economy, they have also embraced capitalism and now spit on the word socialism.

they may spit in socialism but they still have huge commands from central govt which is the point of socialism. In any case the debate remains the same: does freedom work better than liberalism communism socialism monarchy command fascism and dictatorship etc etc.
Incorrect. Central government is not a requirement for socialism.

That's what socialists like to believe. Reality has proven otherwise.
 
But that does not mean that socialism and command based economic systems are the same thing.

they are essentially the same especially given that both terms have several and imprecise meanings!!
Google:
command economy
noun
1.
a socialist economic system in which production anddistribution of goods and services are controlled by thegovernment and industry is mostly publicly owned.
I see that some people have produced explanations that make one a part of the other. I see them as being commonly used together but separate. For example, while Russia is clearly a command based economy, they have also embraced capitalism and now spit on the word socialism.

they may spit in socialism but they still have huge commands from central govt which is the point of socialism. In any case the debate remains the same: does freedom work better than liberalism communism socialism monarchy command fascism and dictatorship etc etc.

Putin recently put the owners of the country's largest oil companies in prison and had the government take ownership of their firms. Yeah, that's my conception of private property.
 
I like the old way best. where if we didn't like something or someone we labeled them communist, fascist, socialist, traitor, sellout, liberal, conservative and so on. Seems like a waste of good names.

can you try that again only in better english so its makes sense? better yet why not tell us if you're freedom or govt and why.
Me not freedom, you freedom? Its makes sense to me.
 
But that does not mean that socialism and command based economic systems are the same thing.

they are essentially the same especially given that both terms have several and imprecise meanings!!
Google:
command economy
noun
1.
a socialist economic system in which production anddistribution of goods and services are controlled by thegovernment and industry is mostly publicly owned.
I see that some people have produced explanations that make one a part of the other. I see them as being commonly used together but separate. For example, while Russia is clearly a command based economy, they have also embraced capitalism and now spit on the word socialism.

they may spit in socialism but they still have huge commands from central govt which is the point of socialism. In any case the debate remains the same: does freedom work better than liberalism communism socialism monarchy command fascism and dictatorship etc etc.
Incorrect. Central government is not a requirement for socialism.

That's what socialists like to believe. Reality has proven otherwise.
Why do you think central government is a requirement for socialism? Why can't two people implement socialism? Why do they need a central government to implement socialism between two people?
 
they are essentially the same especially given that both terms have several and imprecise meanings!!
Google:
command economy
noun
1.
a socialist economic system in which production anddistribution of goods and services are controlled by thegovernment and industry is mostly publicly owned.
I see that some people have produced explanations that make one a part of the other. I see them as being commonly used together but separate. For example, while Russia is clearly a command based economy, they have also embraced capitalism and now spit on the word socialism.

they may spit in socialism but they still have huge commands from central govt which is the point of socialism. In any case the debate remains the same: does freedom work better than liberalism communism socialism monarchy command fascism and dictatorship etc etc.
Incorrect. Central government is not a requirement for socialism.

That's what socialists like to believe. Reality has proven otherwise.
Why do you think central government is a requirement for socialism? Why can't two people implement socialism? Why do they need a central government to implement socialism between two people?
Are families guilty of socialism?
 
I see that some people have produced explanations that make one a part of the other. I see them as being commonly used together but separate. For example, while Russia is clearly a command based economy, they have also embraced capitalism and now spit on the word socialism.

they may spit in socialism but they still have huge commands from central govt which is the point of socialism. In any case the debate remains the same: does freedom work better than liberalism communism socialism monarchy command fascism and dictatorship etc etc.
Incorrect. Central government is not a requirement for socialism.

That's what socialists like to believe. Reality has proven otherwise.
Why do you think central government is a requirement for socialism? Why can't two people implement socialism? Why do they need a central government to implement socialism between two people?
Are families guilty of socialism?
Some employ socialism, yes.
 
they are essentially the same especially given that both terms have several and imprecise meanings!!
Google:
command economy
noun
1.
a socialist economic system in which production anddistribution of goods and services are controlled by thegovernment and industry is mostly publicly owned.
I see that some people have produced explanations that make one a part of the other. I see them as being commonly used together but separate. For example, while Russia is clearly a command based economy, they have also embraced capitalism and now spit on the word socialism.

they may spit in socialism but they still have huge commands from central govt which is the point of socialism. In any case the debate remains the same: does freedom work better than liberalism communism socialism monarchy command fascism and dictatorship etc etc.
Incorrect. Central government is not a requirement for socialism.

That's what socialists like to believe. Reality has proven otherwise.
Why do you think central government is a requirement for socialism? Why can't two people implement socialism? Why do they need a central government to implement socialism between two people?

How do two people build a television set?
 
Um...that's socialism, it's central economic planning. You are very confused today, you should take a nap and start over
Not necessarily. Socialism can be a component of a command based economic system but that would require it to be a mix of market and command based systems. Otherwise there is nothing to socialize. If the government owns you and all land and all commodities, and you are just a slave to the government... Then there is no distribution from one group to another, there is only top down distribution.

What you said was that government can own all property and the economy not be socialist, you have yet to back it up and this sure doesn't do it
Incorrect I gave an example. Do you need a link to command based economic system? Most economic systems are a mix.

I already replied to that. A command based economic system is a centrally planned economy, it is directly socialism. The question is to name a system where government owns all property and the economy is NOT socialist, not one that is socialist
No. Socialism is not the same thing as a command based economic system. While you can have a command based economic system that includes socialsm, they are not the same thing.

Said another way a feature of communist system is using a command based economic system. But that does not mean that socialism and command based economic systems are the same thing.

Command based economic system is a centrally planned economy, that is socialism by definition. You are claiming government can own all assets and the economy can not be socialist, which is ridiculous, as is your saying socialism isn't socialism
 

"Market socialism" is an oxymoron.

"State capitalism" is a euphemism for "communism.

"capitalism" is not socialism. It's the opposite of socialism.
Of the fifteen or so types of socialism one was Marx's Scientific Socialism. It was to ready people for communism. The USSR dropped scientific socialism in a couple of years, it was a bomb and created the New Economic "Program. Because Marx had used the scientific socialism label, many associated socialism with communism.
 

"Market socialism" is an oxymoron.

"State capitalism" is a euphemism for "communism.

"capitalism" is not socialism. It's the opposite of socialism.
Of the fifteen or so types of socialism one was Marx's Scientific Socialism. It was to ready people for communism. The USSR dropped scientific socialism in a couple of years, it was a bomb and created the New Economic "Program. Because Marx had used the scientific socialism label, many associated socialism with communism.

Still trying to disassociate socialism from communism. There is really only one type of socialism. The only difference lies in how hard a society tries to implement it. The NEP was a move away from socialism. However Stalin tried to implement socialism with a vengeance. One reason 7 million Kulaks starved to death in the Ukraine was Stalin's program to collectivize agriculture there. If any country ever tried to implement pure socialism, it was the USSR under Stalin. The result was mass starvation. The claim that it wasn't socialism is swallowed only by modern day communist dupes.
 
I read thread after thread where evil corporations and the free market are castigated by liberals and progressives. So, when I ran across this item, I decided to share it. The video is six minutes long but has some pretty interesting content. It can be viewed

returning us to Dickensian times or to a time of workhouses, sweat shops and child labor to benefit the "market" isn't anything normal people want.
 

"Market socialism" is an oxymoron.

"State capitalism" is a euphemism for "communism.

"capitalism" is not socialism. It's the opposite of socialism.
Of the fifteen or so types of socialism one was Marx's Scientific Socialism. It was to ready people for communism. The USSR dropped scientific socialism in a couple of years, it was a bomb and created the New Economic "Program. Because Marx had used the scientific socialism label, many associated socialism with communism.


regulation that protects people is not communism.

only people ignorant to the results of laissez faire capitalism, which even Adam Smith ultimately rejected, act as shills for the corporatists who are perfectly happy with a permanent underclass of cheap labor.
 
Why do you think central government is a requirement for socialism? Why can't two people implement socialism? Why do they need a central government to implement socialism between two people?

I suspect you are confused about what constitutes socialism if you think a central government is required to implement it anymore than capitalism.
 

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