What is the source of FDR's greatness

[koshergrl]

People believe myths and people who get handouts from the government look back fondly on the asshole who expanded that practice big time

FDR did not believe in handouts. If people were able to work they had to work. To this end FDR created a few agencies that hired people to work and create a better America. For example, just one agency the WPA produced 650,000 miles of new highways, 124,000 bridges, 1000 miles of airport runways, built or improved 125,000 public buildings, including 41,300 schools, 18,000 playgrounds, 8,000 parks and on and on.That was just one agency, there were others, PWA, builder of dams, TVA, CCC.
People elected FDR four times not because of the handouts but for the hope, historians rate FDR America's best president because of what he did. Republicans bad-mouth FDR for both.

And what he did was put into effect a federal hand out system, and create programs to draw people into government dependence.

 

[Unkotare]

There are a number of stories about FDR and one I like is this one:

The Hearse carrying FDR's coffin was ending its trip in DC and crowds were all along the way, waving and crying. An old man was sobbing pretty hard and a lady asked him did he know FDR and the man replied, "No, but he knew me."

Hard to explain FDR's greatness to people that weren't there.

Pretty hard to explain it to people who were locked up in his concentration camps, or pumped full of syphilis too, huh?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

There are a number of stories about FDR and one I like is this one:

The Hearse carrying FDR's coffin was ending its trip in DC and crowds were all along the way, waving and crying. An old man was sobbing pretty hard and a lady asked him did he know FDR and the man replied, "No, but he knew me."

Hard to explain FDR's greatness to people that weren't there.

Pretty hard to explain it to people who were locked up in his concentration camps, or pumped full of syphilis too, huh?

Yeah, right? FDR's greatness is leftist folklore... he was a ruthless, racist douche bag.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Tough, then, reactionaries don't write the history books for the mainstream.

But you can teach this nonsense in home school, but know that will change when those students move into the mainstream and they realize they have been lied to in the HS system

 

[Vox]

FDR's policies prevented a Marxist revolution. Had the government just let the private sector take care of everything, we would have become the USSA. Things would not just all of a sudden gotten better.

BS
Nope, they wont. USSR at that time did not have enough resources to conduct a "revolution" in such a big country ( and never had at any point of time. USA is not Angola, or Cuba).

You didn't know that all "marxist revolutions" were provided by soviet money and soviet weapons ?

 

[regent]

FDR's policies prevented a Marxist revolution. Had the government just let the private sector take care of everything, we would have become the USSA. Things would not just all of a sudden gotten better.

BS
Nope, they wont. USSR at that time did not have enough resources to conduct a "revolution" in such a big country ( and never had at any point of time. USA is not Angola, or Cuba).

You didn't know that all "marxist revolutions" were provided by soviet money and soviet weapons ?

Where did they Marxists get the money to convert Russia into Marxism, pretty big country?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Vox needs some reading catch up on history and political philosophy.

 

[Vox]

FDR's policies prevented a Marxist revolution. Had the government just let the private sector take care of everything, we would have become the USSA. Things would not just all of a sudden gotten better.

BS
Nope, they wont. USSR at that time did not have enough resources to conduct a "revolution" in such a big country ( and never had at any point of time. USA is not Angola, or Cuba).

You didn't know that all "marxist revolutions" were provided by soviet money and soviet weapons ?

Where did they Marxists get the money to convert Russia into Marxism, pretty big country?

Germany. They promised that after the coup ( or revolution) they will stop participating in the WWI - and they did. It did not help Germany in the very end, but Lenin and his clique made a great deal

 

[Vox]

fakey, piss off.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Vox, the Russian-German settlement was not quite that simplistic.

 

[Politico]

If I ever come across any greatness about him I'll let you know.

 

[francoHFW]

Historians consistently rank FDR as the Number 1 US President and it's time to ask why. What is the basis for this "Greatness"

Was it his economic record?

Was it his geo-political accomplishments

Are these historians even using the same scale as Americans

Are we "Deniers" for denying the obvious greatness of the man who oversaw an economy worse than the 7 Biblical Lean Years, enabled befriended and abetted history's 2 biggest mass murderers, helped enslave 1.5 billion people under the crushing yoke of Communism, ran inhumane experiments on blacks at Tuskegee or interred 110,000 Japanese Americans in camps to help Democrats in the election

FDR's policies prevented a Marxist revolution. Had the government just let the private sector take care of everything, we would have become the USSA. Things would not just all of a sudden gotten better.

Things got a hell of a lot better as the hand of government was (to a far too limited degree, but...) withdrawn from more sectors of the economy upon the conclusion of the war.

Like the GI Bill and the Marshall Plan? LOL. And Pubs would have done the same Holocaust, Iron Curtain, internment and worse. Many thanks for ruining the League, the 1st Pub Depression that gave rise to militarists in Germany and Japan, and the isolationism that let them run wild. Pubs- ALWAYS a disaster.

 

[numan]

The great depression was ended by an astronomical increase in government spending when WWII started. EVERY other war in history caused economic devastation. Due to FDR's economic policies, WWII caused an economic boom.

The economic, political, social and moral devastation occurred after WWII was over.

.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The great depression was ended by an astronomical increase in government spending when WWII started. EVERY other war in history caused economic devastation. Due to FDR's economic policies, WWII caused an economic boom.

The economic, political, social and moral devastation occurred after WWII was over..

That assertion is silly. Even with evidence, it is silly.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Jake, the Democrat Talking Point Platitude Spouter

 

[eagle7_31]

Jake, the Democrat Talking Point Platitude Spouter

Some of things FDR did during the Great Depression were needed. The entitlement explosion happend with prior admin, mainly LBJ.

As for WWII he certainly messed up at Yalta, due to illness and too much trust in Stalin.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Jake, the Democrat Talking Point Platitude Spouter

Frank, you are a mere Joe McCarthy-like shill, an a la Saul Alinsky of the reactionary right.

 

[numan]

The great depression was ended by an astronomical increase in government spending when WWII started. EVERY other war in history caused economic devastation. Due to FDR's economic policies, WWII caused an economic boom.

The economic, political, social and moral devastation occurred after WWII was over.

That assertion is silly. Even with evidence, it is silly.

To write something like that about evidence is supremely silly.
.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The economic, political, social and moral devastation occurred after WWII was over.

That assertion is silly. Even with evidence, it is silly.

To write something like that about evidence is supremely silly.
.

You made a statement without evidence, and, yes, your statement is silly.

 

[regent]

Jake, the Democrat Talking Point Platitude Spouter

Some of things FDR did during the Great Depression were needed. The entitlement explosion happend with prior admin, mainly LBJ.

As for WWII he certainly messed up at Yalta, due to illness and too much trust in Stalin.

After Germany's defeat should FDR have been ready to continue the war into the USSR?