What is the source of FDR's greatness

[numan]

you "people" are evil, pure unadulterated evil.

Well, of course!!

But can't you bring up anything more significant than the obvious?

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[Moonglow]

I didn't see any brilliance out of Hoover's policies during the depression that helped. But RWer's claim him as a hero also,

Who has been claiming Hoover as a hero?

I believe it was polichic.

 

[Moonglow]

you "people" are evil, pure unadulterated evil.

I gotz a jar of it on sale on E-Bay!

 

[Moonglow]

He saved the Reagan Family, but you don't know this because you get all your information from rightwing media (and is the primary reason that Ronald Reagan supported him and campaigned for Truman).

Ronald Reagan's father was unemployed - and the family was in desperate trouble. FDR's big government provided him with a job at a time when the Reagan family was having trouble surviving. (Read Reagan's first autobiography "Where's the Rest of Me", and you will get the whole story)

Critics of FDR's work programs said that they were basically like government handouts because they were inefficient and were part of a Government structure which taxed the wealthy at a higher rate.

FDR didn't see it as a handout to the Reagan Family. He described it as an investment in Great Americans - i.e., hard working families that had fallen on hard times. FDR said that if you help people during hard times, that they would have a better chance of moving on to do great things. He speculated that if you gave more Americans a chance at success that you might be saving future scientists and maybe even a president. But the whole point was that he saw the good in people. He trusted them. He didn't see the need to call every family that fell on hard times as Welfare Queens. He was willing to use government's resources not just to help mega-corporations or bailout big banks, but also to help decent American families like the Reagans.

(You've been lied to. Turn off talk radio and study history. Your ignorance is killing this nation)

FDR had faith in the American People - that's why he helped the Reagan Family during hard times. He invested in them just like government invests in roads and energy grids.


(Some say the investment paid off)

Ronald Reagan campaigning for Truman because FDR saved his family during the depression
Reagan Campaigns for Truman in 1948 - YouTube

And in the end?

Ronny was an all right guy, now Nancy, was, well, the true leader of the US during her husbands presidency.

 

[Claudette]

The fact that he put people to work on all those tax payer funded projects.

The guy was a great war time POTUS but his domestic policy extended the GD.

No way should he be called "great" or the number one President.

 

[Richard-H]

"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little"
-FDR

 

[Richard-H]

"It is an unfortunate human failing that a full pocketbook often groans more loudly than an empty stomach"
-FDR

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

He saved the Reagan Family, but you don't know this because you get all your information from rightwing media (and is the primary reason that Ronald Reagan supported him and campaigned for Truman).

Ronald Reagan's father was unemployed - and the family was in desperate trouble. FDR's big government provided him with a job at a time when the Reagan family was having trouble surviving. (Read Reagan's first autobiography "Where's the Rest of Me", and you will get the whole story)

Critics of FDR's work programs said that they were basically like government handouts because they were inefficient and were part of a Government structure which taxed the wealthy at a higher rate.

FDR didn't see it as a handout to the Reagan Family. He described it as an investment in Great Americans - i.e., hard working families that had fallen on hard times. FDR said that if you help people during hard times, that they would have a better chance of moving on to do great things. He speculated that if you gave more Americans a chance at success that you might be saving future scientists and maybe even a president. But the whole point was that he saw the good in people. He trusted them. He didn't see the need to call every family that fell on hard times as Welfare Queens. He was willing to use government's resources not just to help mega-corporations or bailout big banks, but also to help decent American families like the Reagans.

(You've been lied to. Turn off talk radio and study history. Your ignorance is killing this nation)

FDR had faith in the American People - that's why he helped the Reagan Family during hard times. He invested in them just like government invests in roads and energy grids.


(Some say the investment paid off)

Ronald Reagan campaigning for Truman because FDR saved his family during the depression
Reagan Campaigns for Truman in 1948 - YouTube

Actually, the Great Depression was ended by our entry into WW II... FDR actually prolonged the Great Depression with his big government, big spending policies.

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/fdr-s-policies-prolonged-depression-5409.aspx

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

And to say that FDR saved the Reagan family, well, that's just dumb.

 

[auditor0007]

Historians consistently rank FDR as the Number 1 US President and it's time to ask why. What is the basis for this "Greatness"

Was it his economic record?

Was it his geo-political accomplishments

Are these historians even using the same scale as Americans

Are we "Deniers" for denying the obvious greatness of the man who oversaw an economy worse than the 7 Biblical Lean Years, enabled befriended and abetted history's 2 biggest mass murderers, helped enslave 1.5 billion people under the crushing yoke of Communism, ran inhumane experiments on blacks at Tuskegee or interred 110,000 Japanese Americans in camps to help Democrats in the election

FDR's policies prevented a Marxist revolution. Had the government just let the private sector take care of everything, we would have become the USSA. Things would not just all of a sudden gotten better.

 

[Richard-H]

He saved the Reagan Family, but you don't know this because you get all your information from rightwing media (and is the primary reason that Ronald Reagan supported him and campaigned for Truman).

Ronald Reagan's father was unemployed - and the family was in desperate trouble. FDR's big government provided him with a job at a time when the Reagan family was having trouble surviving. (Read Reagan's first autobiography "Where's the Rest of Me", and you will get the whole story)

Critics of FDR's work programs said that they were basically like government handouts because they were inefficient and were part of a Government structure which taxed the wealthy at a higher rate.

FDR didn't see it as a handout to the Reagan Family. He described it as an investment in Great Americans - i.e., hard working families that had fallen on hard times. FDR said that if you help people during hard times, that they would have a better chance of moving on to do great things. He speculated that if you gave more Americans a chance at success that you might be saving future scientists and maybe even a president. But the whole point was that he saw the good in people. He trusted them. He didn't see the need to call every family that fell on hard times as Welfare Queens. He was willing to use government's resources not just to help mega-corporations or bailout big banks, but also to help decent American families like the Reagans.

(You've been lied to. Turn off talk radio and study history. Your ignorance is killing this nation)

FDR had faith in the American People - that's why he helped the Reagan Family during hard times. He invested in them just like government invests in roads and energy grids.


(Some say the investment paid off)

Ronald Reagan campaigning for Truman because FDR saved his family during the depression
Reagan Campaigns for Truman in 1948 - YouTube

Actually, the Great Depression was ended by our entry into WW II... FDR actually prolonged the Great Depression with his big government, big spending policies.

FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate / UCLA Newsroom

In the 1930s every time government spending increased unemployment went down.

The great depression was ended by an astronomical increase in government spending when WWII started. EVERY other war in history caused economic devastation. Due to FDR's economic policies, WWII caused an economic boom.

 

[JakeStarkey]

An essentially conservative individual and a progressive thinker, FDR engaged the greatest calamity in American history, steering successfully between the weirdos of the far left (like huggy) and those of the reactionary right (like CrusaderFrank).

He easily ranks in the top three of presidents.

 

[Unkotare]

Historians consistently rank FDR as the Number 1 US President and it's time to ask why. What is the basis for this "Greatness"

Was it his economic record?

Was it his geo-political accomplishments

Are these historians even using the same scale as Americans

Are we "Deniers" for denying the obvious greatness of the man who oversaw an economy worse than the 7 Biblical Lean Years, enabled befriended and abetted history's 2 biggest mass murderers, helped enslave 1.5 billion people under the crushing yoke of Communism, ran inhumane experiments on blacks at Tuskegee or interred 110,000 Japanese Americans in camps to help Democrats in the election

FDR's policies prevented a Marxist revolution. Had the government just let the private sector take care of everything, we would have become the USSA. Things would not just all of a sudden gotten better.

Things got a hell of a lot better as the hand of government was (to a far too limited degree, but...) withdrawn from more sectors of the economy upon the conclusion of the war.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

He saved the Reagan Family, but you don't know this because you get all your information from rightwing media (and is the primary reason that Ronald Reagan supported him and campaigned for Truman).

Ronald Reagan's father was unemployed - and the family was in desperate trouble. FDR's big government provided him with a job at a time when the Reagan family was having trouble surviving. (Read Reagan's first autobiography "Where's the Rest of Me", and you will get the whole story)

Critics of FDR's work programs said that they were basically like government handouts because they were inefficient and were part of a Government structure which taxed the wealthy at a higher rate.

FDR didn't see it as a handout to the Reagan Family. He described it as an investment in Great Americans - i.e., hard working families that had fallen on hard times. FDR said that if you help people during hard times, that they would have a better chance of moving on to do great things. He speculated that if you gave more Americans a chance at success that you might be saving future scientists and maybe even a president. But the whole point was that he saw the good in people. He trusted them. He didn't see the need to call every family that fell on hard times as Welfare Queens. He was willing to use government's resources not just to help mega-corporations or bailout big banks, but also to help decent American families like the Reagans.

(You've been lied to. Turn off talk radio and study history. Your ignorance is killing this nation)

FDR had faith in the American People - that's why he helped the Reagan Family during hard times. He invested in them just like government invests in roads and energy grids.


(Some say the investment paid off)

Ronald Reagan campaigning for Truman because FDR saved his family during the depression
Reagan Campaigns for Truman in 1948 - YouTube

Actually, the Great Depression was ended by our entry into WW II... FDR actually prolonged the Great Depression with his big government, big spending policies.

FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate / UCLA Newsroom

In the 1930s every time government spending increased unemployment went down.

The great depression was ended by an astronomical increase in government spending when WWII started. EVERY other war in history caused economic devastation. Due to FDR's economic policies, WWII caused an economic boom.

Yeah.. ok, name one of his economic polices that did what you say.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little"
-FDR

What a crock of shit... the fact that the government has to provide tells us we're in trouble.

How about policies that foster an environment where people can provide for themselves?


Yeah, can't have any of that can we...

 

[Richard-H]

The basic fallacy the conservative economic thinking is the belief that if left alone market forces will correct all and lead to the best possible economy.

This is has been proven by history to be absolutely wrong.

The truth is, again proven by history, that if left alone market forces will ALWAYS cause an economic catastrophe. The free market will always cause a devastating and everlasting recession.

The only way a free market will lead to an economic boom is when:

The government set regulations to prevent the markets from becoming catastrophic

AND

There is some new economic 'revolution' occurring (i.e. the industrial age, the machine age, the information age...etc...)

If there is no economic 'revolution' ocurring than the best that will occur is mediore economic performance. Without government regulation this will quickly turn into an economic disaster.

 

[Richard-H]

Actually, the Great Depression was ended by our entry into WW II... FDR actually prolonged the Great Depression with his big government, big spending policies.

FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate / UCLA Newsroom

In the 1930s every time government spending increased unemployment went down.

The great depression was ended by an astronomical increase in government spending when WWII started. EVERY other war in history caused economic devastation. Due to FDR's economic policies, WWII caused an economic boom.

Yeah.. ok, name one of his economic polices that did what you say.

O.K.

FDR's saved the banking industry in 1933:

How FDR Reversed the 1933 Banking Crisis

Here's a synopsis of his new Deal policies:

Understanding Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal Economic Policy - Yahoo! Voices - voices.yahoo.com

In response to Hoover's "DO NOTHING AT ALL" to save the country (which as we all know, did not work very well), here's FDR's philosophy:

"The country needs and, unless I mistake its temper, the country demands bold persistent experimentation. It is common sense to take a method and try it. If it fails, admit it frankly and try another. But above all, try something."

-FDR

 

[Moonglow]

"It is an unfortunate human failing that a full pocketbook often groans more loudly than an empty stomach"
-FDR

Since he was from a rich family he would know.

 

[Moonglow]

"The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little"
-FDR

What a crock of shit... the fact that the government has to provide tells us we're in trouble.

How about policies that foster an environment where people can provide for themselves?


Yeah, can't have any of that can we...

The US has always helped the common man, the first and best example is free land grants.

II. History of the Trust Land Grants
The end of the American Revolutionary War op
ened the floodgates on a vast and virtually
inexorable stream of settlement across the Appalachian Mountains and into the American West. Over
the next 140 years, the European,
Asian, and African settlers of the American continent witnessed the
transformation of the lands that they had claimed fr
om a vast, alien world of aboriginal civilizations
and uncharted wilderness into a settled and conquere
d frontier of newly-organized states and rapidly-
growing cities, towns, and settlements, each neatly
divided into townships,
sections, and quarter-
sections by federal survey crews.
At one time or another, the federal government
held title to more than 80 percent of the land
in the United States. Today less than 30 percent of
the land in the United States still remains in
federal ownership, with the vast remainder of this
land transferred to private entities and state
institutions as a part of the settlement of the American frontier.

Among the millions of acres that
passed out of federal ownership during this period we
re more than eighty million acres of “state trust
lands” – lands that were granted to the newly-
organized states in support of public education.

These
land grants to the new states – and the purposes that inspired them – were intimately tied to the early
history of the relentless westward expansion that became the American era of “Manifest Destiny.”

 

[regent]

There are a number of stories about FDR and one I like is this one:

The Hearse carrying FDR's coffin was ending its trip in DC and crowds were all along the way, waving and crying. An old man was sobbing pretty hard and a lady asked him did he know FDR and the man replied, "No, but he knew me."

Hard to explain FDR's greatness to people that weren't there.