What needs to change before you'll embrace Islam in America?

[NLT]

Sorry about that

I cant embrace islam because I love bacon and beheading infidels just aint my thang.

 

[shart_attack]

Nothing needs to change. I know Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Christians, Atheists and Agnostics. Haven't had a problem with any of them.

Knowing a Muslim on Facebook isn't the same thing as knowing him in Iraq, where he'll put you to death for not converting to Islam.

I'll try to stay out of war zones then, where you can get put to death no matter what the religion is. You do understand the difference don't you?

Everywhere Islam is is a war zone, you naive idiot.

 

[PratchettFan]

Knowing a Muslim on Facebook isn't the same thing as knowing him in Iraq, where he'll put you to death for not converting to Islam.

I'll try to stay out of war zones then, where you can get put to death no matter what the religion is. You do understand the difference don't you?

Everywhere Islam is is a war zone, you naive idiot.

And another coward is heard from. "Oh no! The bad Muslims are going to get me! Eeeeee!" For your sake, I hope there isn't a run on Depends.

 

[Sunni Man]

Not one single word of the Quran will be altered or changed by muslims. Period.

It is the immutable and perfect words of Allah.

The Quran contains the divine blueprint for life and living in society and the world.

And is the greatest blessing ever given to mankind. ....

 

[MaryL]

I will never embrace or tolerate such a silly superstition that is just so intolerant and does such vile nihilist things, like Islam . What's next, we accept head hunting cannibals? They are what they are, and YOU can accept them. They are never going to change. And they can go to hell, those bastards.

 

[shart_attack]

I'll try to stay out of war zones then, where you can get put to death no matter what the religion is. You do understand the difference don't you?

Everywhere Islam is is a war zone, you naive idiot.

And another coward is heard from. "Oh no! The bad Muslims are going to get me! Eeeeee!" For your sake, I hope there isn't a run on Depends.

Ummm, actually, Sherlock, the coward is the one who's afraid to call Islam what it is: a religion of violent savages hellbent on beheading the children of those who won't convert — which makes you both a coward AND tragically naive, err stupid.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Maybe after a thousand or so more years, when Islam has schizmed and morphed and adopted a few hundred more versions it'll be more American-friendly like Christianity. I'd think if we went back to Christianity's root version it'd be equally unpalettable.

 

[PratchettFan]

Everywhere Islam is is a war zone, you naive idiot.

And another coward is heard from. "Oh no! The bad Muslims are going to get me! Eeeeee!" For your sake, I hope there isn't a run on Depends.

Ummm, actually, Sherlock, the coward is the one who's afraid to call Islam what it is: a religion of violent savages hellbent on beheading the children of those who won't convert — which makes you both a coward AND tragically naive, err stupid.

I'm not the one who's shivering in fear. But you keep telling yourself you have a pair. Bigots are good at lying to themselves.

 

[shart_attack]

And another coward is heard from. "Oh no! The bad Muslims are going to get me! Eeeeee!" For your sake, I hope there isn't a run on Depends.

Ummm, actually, Sherlock, the coward is the one who's afraid to call Islam what it is: a religion of violent savages hellbent on beheading the children of those who won't convert — which makes you both a coward AND tragically naive, err stupid.

I'm not the one who's shivering in fear. But you keep telling yourself you have a pair. Bigots are good at lying to themselves.

Tell yourself what you want, you goddamned moron.

The "bigots" are the ones fighting Islam in every corner of the world, so that idiots like you have the right to post nonsense online.

Enjoy it while you can.

 

[Avatar4321]

I see no reason to embrace Islam period. But I don't see any reason to deny people their right to worship as they choose either.

 

[PratchettFan]

I see no reason to embrace Islam period. But I don't see any reason to deny people their right to worship as they choose either.

I couldn't agree more.

 

[Mojo2]

I see no reason to embrace Islam period. But I don't see any reason to deny people their right to worship as they choose either.

The time will come for you and all Americans to choose to LOVE Islam or choose to RESIST Islam.

A middle road will be very challenging.

That day will come when Muslims, predictably, go too far and you think it's time they be stopped.

Well, that time is now.

If you wait til then it will be too late.

 

[Mojo2]

Nothing needs to change. I know Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Christians, Atheists and Agnostics. Haven't had a problem with any of them.

So, you embrace the idea of Islam and more Muslims in America despite their mission to conquer ALL of America and the World?

Then, they'd force you to either agree to being a captive and pay a Jizyah tax, convert to Islam or die.

You're okay with that?

Do I embrace your ridiculous fantasy? No. Do I embrace Muslims, absolutely. But you live in fear if that makes you feel good. Who am I to take away your cowardice.

You must be a Muslim. Otherwise you'd no longer be wallowing around possessed by such a ridiculous notion.

It's not a ham-fistedly categorized, "fear" as much as a distaste of all things Islamic.

Just as former POTUS GHW Bush's well documented dislike of broccoli doesn't mean he fears it or is a coward before the green vegetable. My dislike of Islam is more about my satisfaction with the way of life I enjoy now and a preference to not be forced to change ANYTHING because of Islam.

If you call that fear, so be it.

Do you fear that US Marines are going to force you to eat a slab of Pork Spare Ribs?

If so, would that make you a cowardly pig?

 

[Sunni Man]

That day will come when Muslims, predictably, go too far and you think it's time they be stopped.

Exactly what are American muslims doing that requires them to be stopped? ......

 

[Mojo2]

That day will come when Muslims, predictably, go too far and you think it's time they be stopped.

Exactly what are American muslims doing that requires them to be stopped? ......

You mean, aside from the stealth Jihad being conducted in our government and in the thousands of different places where business and academia and et cetera committed elsewhere by hundreds of thousands of different Muslims every day which needs to be stopped?

My answer is, 'nothing.'

But we know the pattern and we know the game plan and we've seen their declaration of war against US and we've suffered and sacrificed from it and we know to what extent many Muslims will go to terrorize us into submission on their way to achieving global dominance.

We should establish limits on the numbers of immigrants from certain Islamic nations and we should think about somehow limiting the disruptive potential of increased Islamic populations in the USA.

Maybe think about limiting the numbers of Muslims?

Anyway, check this out.

THE FIVE STAGES OF ISLAM

by Richard Butrick

Forget the Five Pillars[1] of Islam. It is the Five Stages of Islam that threaten the fundamental freedoms of Western Democracy. Freedoms which include freedom of thought, expression, and association and the crucial derived right of freedom of the press. We should never forget that "Islam" means submission -- the opposite of self-determination and Enlightenment values.

Six years ago Dr. Peter Hammond published[2] a remarkable book which included a statistical study of the correlation between Muslim to non-Muslim population ratios and the transition from conciliatory Islam to fascist Islam. The stages are the same in 2011 but the demographics have changed to show an alarming progression. Many European nations and the U.S. are on the cusp of moving to a higher bracket. The demographics change but the story is the same. First comes the taqiyya and[3] the kitman; then comes the Sword of Islam. Imam[4] Rauf, the Ground Zero Mosque promoter, is the current master of taqiyya. He has gulled everyone from Bloomberg[5] to Maureen Dowd[6] of the NYT -- who fanaticizes over male Muslims. Expect doppelgangers of Khomeini for stage 5 and Islamic PEACE at last.

Stage 1. Establish a Beachhead

Population density at 2% (US, Australia, Canada).

Muslims are conciliatory, deferential but request harmless special treatment (foot bath facilities, removal/elimination of that which is offensive to delicate Muslim sensibilities - like walking dogs near Mosques).


Stage 2. Establish Outposts

Population density 2% - 5% (UK, Germany, Denmark). At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. A recent example[7] is that of Sheikh Abdullah el-Faisal who is back in Jamaica after being kicked out of the UK. Sound harmless? Read on:

The dispatch, dated February 2010, warns that that Jamaica could be fertile ground for jihadists because of its underground drug economy, marginalized youth, insufficient security and gang networks in U.S. and British prisons.


Stage 3. Establish Sectional Control of Major Cities.

Population density 5%-10% (France, Sweden, Netherlands).

First comes the demand for halal food in supermarkets, and the blocking of streets for prayers; then comes the demand for self rule (within their ghettos) under Sharia. When Muslims approach 10% of the population the demands turn to lawlessness. In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any criticism of Islam results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam. In France which may be over the 10% range, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos.[8] There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrassas. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death.


Stage 4. Establish Regional Control.

Population density 20%-50% (Europe 2020?). After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues.


Stage 5. Total Control, Brutal Suppression, and Dhimmitude.

Population density > 50%.

Unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and jizya, the tax placed on infidels. As Muslim population levels increase and all infidels cower in submission there will peace at last. Dar al-Islam is achieved and everyone lives under Sharia and the Koran is the only word.


Our current Western world leaders are suckered by taqiyya and kitman and steering us into stage 3. Allen West[9] seems to get it but I can't see that any of the crop of current GOP contenders really get it. Fear of bigotry at stage 2 is the Islamists' greatest weapon.

Crucified on the cross of bigotry -- is that the future of the Western democracies? Bigotry is only bigotry if it is out of touch with reality and it is the suckers who believe the stage 1-2 peace pitch of Islam who are the ones who are out of touch with reality -- not to mention our mesmerized President.

The first GOP candidate who announces to Imam Rauf and his supporters, "Fine. A Mosque at ground zero. But how about a cathedral in Mecca first? It is part of our Christian outreach program of bridge building." will be the first to get it and a big boost in the polls.

Think-Israel

 

[Sunni Man]

In my city I personally know American muslin citizens who are school teachers, realtors, two are policemen, car mechanics, lawyers, a TSA agent, a Federal agent, a U.S. customs agent, doctors, dentists, several restaurant and grocery store owners, and of course quite a few who are taxi drivers.

Are they all part of a stealth jihad?? ......

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[Mojo2]

In my city I personally know American muslin citizens who are school teachers, realtors, two are policemen, car mechanics, lawyers, a TSA agent, a Federal agent, a U.S. customs agent, doctors, dentists, several restaurant and grocery store owners, and of course quite a few who are taxi drivers.

Are they all part of a stealth jihad?? ......

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At the moment they are called upon to do a small act for Islam, one which no one would ever find out or reveal, but an act which might cost thousands of lives, that is the moment I'd be able to more accurately answer your question.

All I know is that there is no Islamic Jihad if there is no Islam.

[ame=http://youtu.be/NQOCcx5V9RI]Geert Wilders Warning to America Part 1 of 2 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Sunni Man]

At the moment they are called upon to do a small act for Islam, one which no one would ever find out or reveal, but an act which might cost thousands of lives, that is the moment I'd be able to more accurately answer your question.

All I know is that there is no Islamic Jihad if there is no Islam.

All of the American muslims that I know, including me, don't have time to engage in physical jihad.

We are too busy working, paying taxes, putting our kids thru school, dentist appointments, doctor appointments, taking kids to soccer practice, mowing the lawn, car repairs, PTA meetings at the school, voting, cooking meals and eating out, going on vacation, repair a leak on the roof, etc., etc, etc. .....

 

[Penelope]

I see no reason to embrace Islam period. But I don't see any reason to deny people their right to worship as they choose either.

I couldn't agree more.

I agree as long as they are non violent and live in peace.

 

[Votto]

What needs to change before you'll embrace Islam in America?

A change in the Koran removing the order to followers to conquer the entire Earth for Allah.

Evidence over ten + years that traditionalist Muslims no longer worked toward making Islam dominant over all.

Once we saw no Islamic terrorism for more than 10 years anywhere on Earth I'd be willing to entertain the idea that Islam was no longer a threat to my grandchildren's freedom.

Once that was the case and ONLY after that had occurred...no Islamic terrorism anywhere on Earth...sounds difficult?

Christians and Jews manage to do it.

So can Muslims.

Once that had been accomplished I'd be willing to take a chance on being neutral about Islam in America and Muslims in America.

What would it take?

I would probably need the 70 virgins before I die.