What ‘spooked the spooks’ about Trump?

[gipper]

Why did they pursue the obviously absurd Steele Dossier to such an extent? Was it merely Trump’s anti war rhetoric during the campaign or an effort to help HER and continue O’s legacy? Was there some other reason?

What does the MSM’s ridiculous promotion of this obvious fraudulent story, tell us about them?


What We Still Do Not Know About Russiagate
Vital questions about perhaps the worst alleged presidential scandal in US history remain unanswered.
By Stephen F. Cohen

The Nation

September 5, 2019

(Snip)...
Why did Western intelligence agencies, prompted, it seems clear, by US ones, seek to undermine Trump’s presidential campaign? A reflexive answer might be because candidate Trump promised to “cooperate with Russia,” to pursue a pro-détente foreign policy, but this was hardly a startling, still less subversive, advocacy by a would-be Republican president. All of the major pro-détente episodes in the 20th century had been initiated by Republican presidents: Eisenhower, Nixon, and Reagan.

So, again, what was it about Trump that so spooked the spooks so far off their rightful reservation and so intrusively into American presidential politics? Investigations being overseen by Attorney General William Barr may provide answers—or not. Barr has already leveled procedural charges against James Comey, head of the FBI under President Obama and briefly under President Trump, but the repeatedly hapless Comey seems incapable of having initiated such an audacious operation against a presidential candidate, still less a president-elect.

What We Still Do Not Know About Russiagate - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

 

[Oddball]

He's not a member of The Big Club™.....I really don't think it's much more complicated than that....With precious few exceptions, the DC ruling class, from both parties, have a pernicious snobbery that envelops them.

 

[wamose]

The criminal establishment will do anything to perpetuate their stronghold on power and the riches that come with it. You can call it the swamp, call it the establishment, call it Democrats or neocons but in the end it is a criminal cartel that robs our country and protects itself from criminal prosecution.

 

[gipper]

He's not a member of The Big Club™.....I really don't think it's much more complicated than that....With precious few exceptions, the DC ruling class, from both parties, have a pernicious snobbery that envelops them.

That may be correct. However, that snobbery and elitism could just as easily lead them to wanting Trump, thinking they could easily control him.

Or, it could be more sinister. They knew they had Hillary completely controlled. As such, they may have had big plans that easily would be enacted with her in the WH.

I suspect we will never know for certain.

 

[Seawytch]

Wait...so the OP thinks the big question is not why did Trump and company have dozens of contacts with Russians, but why did our intelligence agencies investigate all the Russian contacts? Wow....just....wow.

 

[Oddball]

He's not a member of The Big Club™.....I really don't think it's much more complicated than that....With precious few exceptions, the DC ruling class, from both parties, have a pernicious snobbery that envelops them.

That may be correct. However, that snobbery and elitism could just as easily lead them to wanting Trump, thinking they could easily control him.

Or, it could be more sinister. They knew they had Hillary completely controlled. As such, they may have had big plans that easily would be enacted with her in the WH.

I suspect we will never know for certain.

I don't think it was that Hillary could be controlled as much it was that she's as big a crook as they are.....Would have been one big party.

 

[gipper]

Wait...so the OP thinks the big question is not why did Trump and company have dozens of contacts with Russians, but why did our intelligence agencies investigate all the Russian contacts? Wow....just....wow.

It is sad that Americans like you believe lies.

We live in an age where facts and truth no longer matter. Only one’s political narrative is truth.

 

[Oddball]

Wait...so the OP thinks the big question is not why did Trump and company have dozens of contacts with Russians, but why did our intelligence agencies investigate all the Russian contacts? Wow....just....wow.

Take your tin foil hat somewhere else.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Wait...so the OP thinks the big question is not why did Trump and company have dozens of contacts with Russians, but why did our intelligence agencies investigate all the Russian contacts? Wow....just....wow.

Where is it illegal to do business internationally? I do business with russia.

 

[Terri4Trump]

Why did they pursue the obviously absurd Steele Dossier to such an extent? Was it merely Trump’s anti war rhetoric during the campaign or an effort to help HER and continue O’s legacy? Was there some other reason?

What does the MSM’s ridiculous promotion of this obvious fraudulent story, tell us about them?


What We Still Do Not Know About Russiagate
Vital questions about perhaps the worst alleged presidential scandal in US history remain unanswered.
By Stephen F. Cohen

The Nation

September 5, 2019

(Snip)...
Why did Western intelligence agencies, prompted, it seems clear, by US ones, seek to undermine Trump’s presidential campaign? A reflexive answer might be because candidate Trump promised to “cooperate with Russia,” to pursue a pro-détente foreign policy, but this was hardly a startling, still less subversive, advocacy by a would-be Republican president. All of the major pro-détente episodes in the 20th century had been initiated by Republican presidents: Eisenhower, Nixon, and Reagan.

So, again, what was it about Trump that so spooked the spooks so far off their rightful reservation and so intrusively into American presidential politics? Investigations being overseen by Attorney General William Barr may provide answers—or not. Barr has already leveled procedural charges against James Comey, head of the FBI under President Obama and briefly under President Trump, but the repeatedly hapless Comey seems incapable of having initiated such an audacious operation against a presidential candidate, still less a president-elect.

What We Still Do Not Know About Russiagate - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

People who do not watch fake news know enough about it now to know what happened. Illegal spying and other efforts were used to stop Trump from getting elected, and when he got elected those efforts morphed into discrediting him enough to get him impeached and overthrow the government. Thats then basic gist of it.

 

[Hellokitty]

Wait...so the OP thinks the big question is not why did Trump and company have dozens of contacts with Russians, but why did our intelligence agencies investigate all the Russian contacts? Wow....just....wow.

How many of those dozens of contacts trace back to the FBI?

 

[Seawytch]

Wait...so the OP thinks the big question is not why did Trump and company have dozens of contacts with Russians, but why did our intelligence agencies investigate all the Russian contacts? Wow....just....wow.

How many of those dozens of contacts trace back to the FBI?

None of the dozens of undisclosed Russian contacts the Trump admin had were FBI. Some were former KGB and FSB, but no FBI. I wish one of them had been undercover FBI....

 

[iceberg]

Wait...so the OP thinks the big question is not why did Trump and company have dozens of contacts with Russians, but why did our intelligence agencies investigate all the Russian contacts? Wow....just....wow.

hillary and obama had dozens of contacts with the russians. sold them uranium, they donated to her funds...yet they are untouchable despite having the very same "connections" you're mad at trump for.

maybe - just maybe - you're just being a dickheadedhater who will only give a shit when 1 side does it.

 

[gipper]

Why did they pursue the obviously absurd Steele Dossier to such an extent? Was it merely Trump’s anti war rhetoric during the campaign or an effort to help HER and continue O’s legacy? Was there some other reason?

What does the MSM’s ridiculous promotion of this obvious fraudulent story, tell us about them?


What We Still Do Not Know About Russiagate
Vital questions about perhaps the worst alleged presidential scandal in US history remain unanswered.
By Stephen F. Cohen

The Nation

September 5, 2019

(Snip)...
Why did Western intelligence agencies, prompted, it seems clear, by US ones, seek to undermine Trump’s presidential campaign? A reflexive answer might be because candidate Trump promised to “cooperate with Russia,” to pursue a pro-détente foreign policy, but this was hardly a startling, still less subversive, advocacy by a would-be Republican president. All of the major pro-détente episodes in the 20th century had been initiated by Republican presidents: Eisenhower, Nixon, and Reagan.

So, again, what was it about Trump that so spooked the spooks so far off their rightful reservation and so intrusively into American presidential politics? Investigations being overseen by Attorney General William Barr may provide answers—or not. Barr has already leveled procedural charges against James Comey, head of the FBI under President Obama and briefly under President Trump, but the repeatedly hapless Comey seems incapable of having initiated such an audacious operation against a presidential candidate, still less a president-elect.

What We Still Do Not Know About Russiagate - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

People who do not watch fake news know enough about it now to know what happened. Illegal spying and other efforts were used to stop Trump from getting elected, and when he got elected those efforts morphed into discrediting him enough to get him impeached and overthrow the government. Thats then basic gist of it.

...but why? This is the point of the OP.

If Donnie is such a dirtbag with a history of immoral behavior, as the Left portrays him, the intel agencies could easily blackmail him. Thus, controlling everything he might do.

 

[Seawytch]

Wait...so the OP thinks the big question is not why did Trump and company have dozens of contacts with Russians, but why did our intelligence agencies investigate all the Russian contacts? Wow....just....wow.

Where is it illegal to do business internationally? I do business with russia.

Do you lie about it repeatedly to the American people? Do you share internal polling data from them? Do you have secret meetings with them to get stolen information?

 

[The Original Tree]

President Trump has caused fear and shitting of the pants in many a Leftist Socialist Globalist Democrat Nazi. It's simple as that.

Whatever is good for America, and The American People The Establishment Globalists on The Left and Right hate and are in fear of.

Or does everyone forget Hillary promoting getting rid of The American Dollar and replacing it with the Amero?

Do you all forget her promoting open borders and a North American Borderless Trading Zone reminiscent of the terminally Ill European Union?

Globalist ****!

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Why did they pursue the obviously absurd Steele Dossier to such an extent? Was it merely Trump’s anti war rhetoric during the campaign or an effort to help HER and continue O’s legacy? Was there some other reason?

What does the MSM’s ridiculous promotion of this obvious fraudulent story, tell us about them?


What We Still Do Not Know About Russiagate
Vital questions about perhaps the worst alleged presidential scandal in US history remain unanswered.
By Stephen F. Cohen

The Nation

September 5, 2019

(Snip)...
Why did Western intelligence agencies, prompted, it seems clear, by US ones, seek to undermine Trump’s presidential campaign? A reflexive answer might be because candidate Trump promised to “cooperate with Russia,” to pursue a pro-détente foreign policy, but this was hardly a startling, still less subversive, advocacy by a would-be Republican president. All of the major pro-détente episodes in the 20th century had been initiated by Republican presidents: Eisenhower, Nixon, and Reagan.

So, again, what was it about Trump that so spooked the spooks so far off their rightful reservation and so intrusively into American presidential politics? Investigations being overseen by Attorney General William Barr may provide answers—or not. Barr has already leveled procedural charges against James Comey, head of the FBI under President Obama and briefly under President Trump, but the repeatedly hapless Comey seems incapable of having initiated such an audacious operation against a presidential candidate, still less a president-elect.

What We Still Do Not Know About Russiagate - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

Well, it seems that many former and current intelligence staff think he may be a russian asset. It's been in the news.

 

[iceberg]

Why did they pursue the obviously absurd Steele Dossier to such an extent? Was it merely Trump’s anti war rhetoric during the campaign or an effort to help HER and continue O’s legacy? Was there some other reason?

What does the MSM’s ridiculous promotion of this obvious fraudulent story, tell us about them?


What We Still Do Not Know About Russiagate
Vital questions about perhaps the worst alleged presidential scandal in US history remain unanswered.
By Stephen F. Cohen

The Nation

September 5, 2019

(Snip)...
Why did Western intelligence agencies, prompted, it seems clear, by US ones, seek to undermine Trump’s presidential campaign? A reflexive answer might be because candidate Trump promised to “cooperate with Russia,” to pursue a pro-détente foreign policy, but this was hardly a startling, still less subversive, advocacy by a would-be Republican president. All of the major pro-détente episodes in the 20th century had been initiated by Republican presidents: Eisenhower, Nixon, and Reagan.

So, again, what was it about Trump that so spooked the spooks so far off their rightful reservation and so intrusively into American presidential politics? Investigations being overseen by Attorney General William Barr may provide answers—or not. Barr has already leveled procedural charges against James Comey, head of the FBI under President Obama and briefly under President Trump, but the repeatedly hapless Comey seems incapable of having initiated such an audacious operation against a presidential candidate, still less a president-elect.

What We Still Do Not Know About Russiagate - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

Well, it seems that many former and current intelligence staff think he may be a russian asset. It's been in the news.

also been in the news they found nothing after 2 years of looking.

funny how you pick and choose.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

also been in the news they found nothing after 2 years of looking.

Maybe in wingnut bubble land... Not in what the rest of us call "reality"....

 

[The Original Tree]

also been in the news they found nothing after 2 years of looking.

Maybe in wingnut bubble land... Not in what the rest of us call "reality"....

$100 Million spent. 23 Investigations over three years. Millions of documents made available to investigators, and not a single criminal recommendation for indictments against President Trump.

That's Reality