What ‘spooked the spooks’ about Trump?

[Seawytch]

Putin didn't have Don s phone number or did not want to use the unsecured phone of Trump' s as a part of the conversation? The Russians seem to know enough to contact Hope Hicks, to reach him... And somehow got her phone number?


Plus, from your article, one itty bitty line of it, among the right wing slanted opinion piece...

There were plenty of contacts between the Russian operatives and the Trump campaign detailed in the Mueller report.

Elsewhere in the report, Mueller details a “series of contacts between Trump campaign officials and individuals with ties to the Russian government.”

yet not a one of them did mueller determine to be worth pursuing.

hopes n dreams. all the left has in their hate and they won't let it go.

He was unable to pursue them. Given they are Russian nationals, there was no way for Mueller to pursue the information. He also was unable to find out what happened to the information that Manafort gave to a business associate with ties to Russian Intelligence. That gave the Russians a roadmap for their social media ads.

Mueller got it right. The Trump campaign knew the Russians wanted to help them and made it easy for them to do so.

Oh bull fucking shit. You didn't get what you emotionally counted on and are diverting the pain of losing to behind a vague lie you choose to believe.

No, that’s true shit. The Russians gave help. Trump solicited that help, took that help and absolutely benefited from that help.

The intelligence agencies investigating the interference are not the bad guys.

Sure would be nice if you could provide the slightest bit of evidence. So far only the shrilary campaign provably colluded.

The Mueller report details it.

1. Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.

2. Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.

3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.

4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.

5. Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.

6. Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.

7. A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.

8. Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.

9. Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.

10. The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.

11. The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.

12. Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.

13. During the presidential transition, Jared Kushner and Eric Prince engaged in secret back channel communications with Russian agents. (1) Kushner suggested to the Russian Ambassador that they use a secure communication line from within the Russian Embassy to speak with Russian Generals; and (2) Prince and Kushner’s friend Rick Gerson conducted secret back channel meetings with a Putin agent to develop a plan for U.S.-Russian relations.

14. During the presidential transition, in coordination with other members of the Transition Team, Michael Flynn spoke with the Russian Ambassador to prevent a tit for tat Russian response to the Obama administration’s imposition of sanctions for election interference; the Russians agreed not to retaliate saying they wanted a good relationship with the incoming administration.​

 

[Oddball]

yet not a one of them did mueller determine to be worth pursuing.

hopes n dreams. all the left has in their hate and they won't let it go.

He was unable to pursue them. Given they are Russian nationals, there was no way for Mueller to pursue the information. He also was unable to find out what happened to the information that Manafort gave to a business associate with ties to Russian Intelligence. That gave the Russians a roadmap for their social media ads.

Mueller got it right. The Trump campaign knew the Russians wanted to help them and made it easy for them to do so.

Oh bull fucking shit. You didn't get what you emotionally counted on and are diverting the pain of losing to behind a vague lie you choose to believe.

No, that’s true shit. The Russians gave help. Trump solicited that help, took that help and absolutely benefited from that help.

The intelligence agencies investigating the interference are not the bad guys.

Sure would be nice if you could provide the slightest bit of evidence. So far only the shrilary campaign provably colluded.

The Mueller report details it.

1. Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.

2. Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.

3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.

4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.

5. Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.

6. Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.

7. A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.

8. Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.

9. Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.

10. The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.

11. The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.

12. Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.

13. During the presidential transition, Jared Kushner and Eric Prince engaged in secret back channel communications with Russian agents. (1) Kushner suggested to the Russian Ambassador that they use a secure communication line from within the Russian Embassy to speak with Russian Generals; and (2) Prince and Kushner’s friend Rick Gerson conducted secret back channel meetings with a Putin agent to develop a plan for U.S.-Russian relations.

14. During the presidential transition, in coordination with other members of the Transition Team, Michael Flynn spoke with the Russian Ambassador to prevent a tit for tat Russian response to the Obama administration’s imposition of sanctions for election interference; the Russians agreed not to retaliate saying they wanted a good relationship with the incoming administration.​

 

[Seawytch]

Putin didn't have Don s phone number or did not want to use the unsecured phone of Trump' s as a part of the conversation? The Russians seem to know enough to contact Hope Hicks, to reach him... And somehow got her phone number?


Plus, from your article, one itty bitty line of it, among the right wing slanted opinion piece...

There were plenty of contacts between the Russian operatives and the Trump campaign detailed in the Mueller report.

Elsewhere in the report, Mueller details a “series of contacts between Trump campaign officials and individuals with ties to the Russian government.”

yet not a one of them did mueller determine to be worth pursuing.

hopes n dreams. all the left has in their hate and they won't let it go.

He was unable to pursue them. Given they are Russian nationals, there was no way for Mueller to pursue the information. He also was unable to find out what happened to the information that Manafort gave to a business associate with ties to Russian Intelligence. That gave the Russians a roadmap for their social media ads.

Mueller got it right. The Trump campaign knew the Russians wanted to help them and made it easy for them to do so.

Oh bull fucking shit. You didn't get what you emotionally counted on and are diverting the pain of losing to behind a vague lie you choose to believe.

No, that’s true shit. The Russians gave help. Trump solicited that help, took that help and absolutely benefited from that help.

The intelligence agencies investigating the interference are not the bad guys.

Fuck off.

Well....That's a response worthy of your intelligence level.

Way to come back with facts.

 

[Seawytch]

Wait...so the OP thinks the big question is not why did Trump and company have dozens of contacts with Russians, but why did our intelligence agencies investigate all the Russian contacts? Wow....just....wow.

Countries - US TradeNumbers
So we have like 16 Billion $ worth of trade with Russia YTD according to this source, do you think there are a number of Americans who have contacts with Russians if we have 16 Billion worth of trade? Are all those Americans suspected criminals now for having Russian contacts? Trump has a real estate business and he does international business. I'm betting he's not the only American to do business over there.

So you think the big question is why Trump had dozens of Russian contacts? they are not the Soviet Union anymore for one thing and it's perfectly legal. Its just that every time you hear the news media talk about Trumps Russian contacts or Democrats talk about that... its always in Bullshit hushed tones as if this is some sort of rare thing for an American. Democrats themselves do business and make money with Russia... but again, its different with Trump because he is the political target.

He's the one that LIED about it repeatedly.

The Trump Tower meeting to get "dirt" on Clinton had nothing to do with his business...nor did his campaign manager sharing internal polling data with Russians.

 

[Oddball]

8. Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.
​

Looks like Weissman (the real author of that report) has a stick shoved so far up his ass, that even he couldn't tell that Trump was mocking the media.

If he really believes that this open derision was some sort of signal to alleged hackers, then he's nearly as humorless and stupid as you are....That this incident was even mentioned in that asinine report, just shows that the rest of it is a total fraud.​

 

[Yarddog]

Wait...so the OP thinks the big question is not why did Trump and company have dozens of contacts with Russians, but why did our intelligence agencies investigate all the Russian contacts? Wow....just....wow.

Countries - US TradeNumbers
So we have like 16 Billion $ worth of trade with Russia YTD according to this source, do you think there are a number of Americans who have contacts with Russians if we have 16 Billion worth of trade? Are all those Americans suspected criminals now for having Russian contacts? Trump has a real estate business and he does international business. I'm betting he's not the only American to do business over there.

So you think the big question is why Trump had dozens of Russian contacts? they are not the Soviet Union anymore for one thing and it's perfectly legal. Its just that every time you hear the news media talk about Trumps Russian contacts or Democrats talk about that... its always in Bullshit hushed tones as if this is some sort of rare thing for an American. Democrats themselves do business and make money with Russia... but again, its different with Trump because he is the political target.

He's the one that LIED about it repeatedly.

The Trump Tower meeting to get "dirt" on Clinton had nothing to do with his business...nor did his campaign manager sharing internal polling data with Russians.

If something was done inappropriately at the Trump Tower meeting there would have been an indictment. If I remember correctly, there was an investigation that took place. Trumps kid went into that meeting blind, without really knowing what it was going to be all about and then quickly left the meeting taking nothing useful..... they did not know the Russian Lawyer was linked to the government....... and again, people in Washington have dealt with Russian nationals before as well as other foreign nationals all the time. This is nothing new.

 

[iceberg]

yet not a one of them did mueller determine to be worth pursuing.

hopes n dreams. all the left has in their hate and they won't let it go.

He was unable to pursue them. Given they are Russian nationals, there was no way for Mueller to pursue the information. He also was unable to find out what happened to the information that Manafort gave to a business associate with ties to Russian Intelligence. That gave the Russians a roadmap for their social media ads.

Mueller got it right. The Trump campaign knew the Russians wanted to help them and made it easy for them to do so.

Oh bull fucking shit. You didn't get what you emotionally counted on and are diverting the pain of losing to behind a vague lie you choose to believe.

No, that’s true shit. The Russians gave help. Trump solicited that help, took that help and absolutely benefited from that help.

The intelligence agencies investigating the interference are not the bad guys.

Fuck off.

Well....That's a response worthy of your intelligence level.

Way to come back with facts.

no - that was factual. i'll type more slowly.

Fuck off.

 

[Care4all]

Wait...so the OP thinks the big question is not why did Trump and company have dozens of contacts with Russians, but why did our intelligence agencies investigate all the Russian contacts? Wow....just....wow.

Countries - US TradeNumbers
So we have like 16 Billion $ worth of trade with Russia YTD according to this source, do you think there are a number of Americans who have contacts with Russians if we have 16 Billion worth of trade? Are all those Americans suspected criminals now for having Russian contacts? Trump has a real estate business and he does international business. I'm betting he's not the only American to do business over there.

So you think the big question is why Trump had dozens of Russian contacts? they are not the Soviet Union anymore for one thing and it's perfectly legal. Its just that every time you hear the news media talk about Trumps Russian contacts or Democrats talk about that... its always in Bullshit hushed tones as if this is some sort of rare thing for an American. Democrats themselves do business and make money with Russia... but again, its different with Trump because he is the political target.

He's the one that LIED about it repeatedly.

The Trump Tower meeting to get "dirt" on Clinton had nothing to do with his business...nor did his campaign manager sharing internal polling data with Russians.

If something was done inappropriately at the Trump Tower meeting there would have been an indictment. If I remember correctly, there was an investigation that took place. Trumps kid went into that meeting blind, without really knowing what it was going to be all about and then quickly left the meeting taking nothing useful..... they did not know the Russian Lawyer was linked to the government....... and again, people in Washington have dealt with Russian nationals before as well as other foreign nationals all the time. This is nothing new.

the Mueller report says Don Jr. broke the law, but they could not prove he knew he was breaking the law, so they could not establish his intent... and the statute required intent... to prosecute.

 

[Seawytch]

Wait...so the OP thinks the big question is not why did Trump and company have dozens of contacts with Russians, but why did our intelligence agencies investigate all the Russian contacts? Wow....just....wow.

Countries - US TradeNumbers
So we have like 16 Billion $ worth of trade with Russia YTD according to this source, do you think there are a number of Americans who have contacts with Russians if we have 16 Billion worth of trade? Are all those Americans suspected criminals now for having Russian contacts? Trump has a real estate business and he does international business. I'm betting he's not the only American to do business over there.

So you think the big question is why Trump had dozens of Russian contacts? they are not the Soviet Union anymore for one thing and it's perfectly legal. Its just that every time you hear the news media talk about Trumps Russian contacts or Democrats talk about that... its always in Bullshit hushed tones as if this is some sort of rare thing for an American. Democrats themselves do business and make money with Russia... but again, its different with Trump because he is the political target.

He's the one that LIED about it repeatedly.

The Trump Tower meeting to get "dirt" on Clinton had nothing to do with his business...nor did his campaign manager sharing internal polling data with Russians.

If something was done inappropriately at the Trump Tower meeting there would have been an indictment. If I remember correctly, there was an investigation that took place. Trumps kid went into that meeting blind, without really knowing what it was going to be all about and then quickly left the meeting taking nothing useful..... they did not know the Russian Lawyer was linked to the government....... and again, people in Washington have dealt with Russian nationals before as well as other foreign nationals all the time. This is nothing new.

It was inappropriate and illegal. Junior got off on an ignorance of the law defense. We actually don't know what they got since Trump LIES.

Yes, actually, the dozens of undisclosed contacts was both unusual and troubling....which is why there was an investigation.

 

[Seawytch]

He was unable to pursue them. Given they are Russian nationals, there was no way for Mueller to pursue the information. He also was unable to find out what happened to the information that Manafort gave to a business associate with ties to Russian Intelligence. That gave the Russians a roadmap for their social media ads.

Mueller got it right. The Trump campaign knew the Russians wanted to help them and made it easy for them to do so.

Oh bull fucking shit. You didn't get what you emotionally counted on and are diverting the pain of losing to behind a vague lie you choose to believe.

No, that’s true shit. The Russians gave help. Trump solicited that help, took that help and absolutely benefited from that help.

The intelligence agencies investigating the interference are not the bad guys.

Fuck off.

Well....That's a response worthy of your intelligence level.

Way to come back with facts.

no - that was factual. i'll type more slowly.

Fuck off.

Awww, poor snowflake. Facts make you cry....

 

[Yarddog]

Wait...so the OP thinks the big question is not why did Trump and company have dozens of contacts with Russians, but why did our intelligence agencies investigate all the Russian contacts? Wow....just....wow.

Countries - US TradeNumbers
So we have like 16 Billion $ worth of trade with Russia YTD according to this source, do you think there are a number of Americans who have contacts with Russians if we have 16 Billion worth of trade? Are all those Americans suspected criminals now for having Russian contacts? Trump has a real estate business and he does international business. I'm betting he's not the only American to do business over there.

So you think the big question is why Trump had dozens of Russian contacts? they are not the Soviet Union anymore for one thing and it's perfectly legal. Its just that every time you hear the news media talk about Trumps Russian contacts or Democrats talk about that... its always in Bullshit hushed tones as if this is some sort of rare thing for an American. Democrats themselves do business and make money with Russia... but again, its different with Trump because he is the political target.

He's the one that LIED about it repeatedly.

The Trump Tower meeting to get "dirt" on Clinton had nothing to do with his business...nor did his campaign manager sharing internal polling data with Russians.

If something was done inappropriately at the Trump Tower meeting there would have been an indictment. If I remember correctly, there was an investigation that took place. Trumps kid went into that meeting blind, without really knowing what it was going to be all about and then quickly left the meeting taking nothing useful..... they did not know the Russian Lawyer was linked to the government....... and again, people in Washington have dealt with Russian nationals before as well as other foreign nationals all the time. This is nothing new.

It was inappropriate and illegal. Junior got off on an ignorance of the law defense. We actually don't know what they got since Trump LIES.

Yes, actually, the dozens of undisclosed contacts was both unusual and troubling....which is why there was an investigation.

Junior's cell phone record I believe holds up his story. Wasn't there some kind of recording with him saying "im out of here" ?
Secondly, Veselnitskaya was known for hiding her Kremlin ties, that's probably how she got a visa in the US in the first place.
Thirdly, oddly enough... ms Veselnitskaya met with someone from Fusion GPS the day before and the day after the Trump tower meeting.... for this to be a set up to help take down Trump, all she had to do was get in the same room with Junior, and thats just what happened.

an election going one way or another is worth millions or billions of dollars to certain parties involved, so it hardly seems a stretch to me that the democrats would use their own Russian ties to try and set Trump up to win an election or get an impeachment.

 

[DamnDude]

Why did they pursue the obviously absurd Steele Dossier to such an extent? Was it merely Trump’s anti war rhetoric during the campaign or an effort to help HER and continue O’s legacy? Was there some other reason?

What does the MSM’s ridiculous promotion of this obvious fraudulent story, tell us about them?


What We Still Do Not Know About Russiagate
Vital questions about perhaps the worst alleged presidential scandal in US history remain unanswered.
By Stephen F. Cohen

The Nation

September 5, 2019

(Snip)...
Why did Western intelligence agencies, prompted, it seems clear, by US ones, seek to undermine Trump’s presidential campaign? A reflexive answer might be because candidate Trump promised to “cooperate with Russia,” to pursue a pro-détente foreign policy, but this was hardly a startling, still less subversive, advocacy by a would-be Republican president. All of the major pro-détente episodes in the 20th century had been initiated by Republican presidents: Eisenhower, Nixon, and Reagan.

So, again, what was it about Trump that so spooked the spooks so far off their rightful reservation and so intrusively into American presidential politics? Investigations being overseen by Attorney General William Barr may provide answers—or not. Barr has already leveled procedural charges against James Comey, head of the FBI under President Obama and briefly under President Trump, but the repeatedly hapless Comey seems incapable of having initiated such an audacious operation against a presidential candidate, still less a president-elect.

What We Still Do Not Know About Russiagate - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

Paul Manafort, Rick Gates, General Flynn - all with bigtime financial ties to Moscow, Trump Tower Moscow, every Trump staff who is asked about Russian contacts, lies about those contacts. Trump's advance knowledge of hacker leaks through WikiLeaks. Trump's attempts to deflect attention from the Russians on the hacking, which the security agencies knew were coming from Russia.

Truly, you have to be wilfully blind NOT to investigate Trump's ties to Russia.

Oh My Gawd, Becky
Look at R's butts...

The irony here is so damn palpable. You accuse Trump supporters of being blind yet you yourself blatantly refuse to see the dangerous and deadly actions of "your side" and spout off the left talking points ad nauseam.

The problem in government the last decade and a half has been we have elected idiotic, single minded trolls to office and their supporters have taken up their gauntlets to such an extreme that almost no one will take the time to talk about compromise or listen to why things won't work. The idiotic, single minded trolls have become the voters with their mantra "I'm right, your wrong" mindset has led to boondoggle after boondoggle and we, the tax paying voters can only blame ourselves.
Willfully blind indeed.
It's not just one side.

These aren't "talking points". They're FACTS from the Mueller Report. You should try reading it.

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
*deep breath*
BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Dear sweet baby Jesus H. Ti**y F*@&ing Christ.
How in the blue hell do you know I haven't read the report?
Do you have me under surveillance? Have you let my gubmint know this?
Shit lady, I'm pretty much sick and tired of made up bullshit being passed around as fact... Especially when a nevertrumper can't even say for sure if the law has been broken. IF any of the Mueller report could've been supported by FACTS then President Trump would have been impeached by now.
The FACT Robert Mueller, with a statement, turned due process the exact opposite of what it should be also plays into the bullshit you nevertrumpers spout. All the coulda, shoulda, might be's and maybe's don't amount to a tick on a dog's ass without provable, concrete FACTS.
Good friggin grief, even the leftist loon moonbat Pelosi won't even try to impeach President Trump on that bullshit. She of the "I do everything for my party before the country sheep think."
The only things Mueller's investigation has "found" is some tax evasion and perjury UNRELATED to "Russian collusion," and in the process managed to ruin an individual I served with in the military on technicalities of language. I hope he pulls his plea bargin and forces the hand of the investigators and takes it to trial.... If they even decide to do so. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be held to the standard Mueller's staff held him to. Hell, he just might get exonerated.
FACTS....
I don't think you know the definition of the word.

 

[westwall]

Oh bull fucking shit. You didn't get what you emotionally counted on and are diverting the pain of losing to behind a vague lie you choose to believe.

No, that’s true shit. The Russians gave help. Trump solicited that help, took that help and absolutely benefited from that help.

The intelligence agencies investigating the interference are not the bad guys.

Fuck off.

Well....That's a response worthy of your intelligence level.

Way to come back with facts.

no - that was factual. i'll type more slowly.

Fuck off.

Awww, poor snowflake. Facts make you cry....

Actually , they seem to make you cry. The mewler report put forth a whole bunch of opinion. There were no facts in that load of malarkey. It just shows how desperate, and dumb you are, that you give any credence to that load of horse dung.

 

[iceberg]

Oh bull fucking shit. You didn't get what you emotionally counted on and are diverting the pain of losing to behind a vague lie you choose to believe.

No, that’s true shit. The Russians gave help. Trump solicited that help, took that help and absolutely benefited from that help.

The intelligence agencies investigating the interference are not the bad guys.

Fuck off.

Well....That's a response worthy of your intelligence level.

Way to come back with facts.

no - that was factual. i'll type more slowly.

Fuck off.

Awww, poor snowflake. Facts make you cry....

telling you to fuck off isnt crying but i see you are challenged by reality.

 

[DamnDude]

No, that’s true shit. The Russians gave help. Trump solicited that help, took that help and absolutely benefited from that help.

The intelligence agencies investigating the interference are not the bad guys.

Fuck off.

Well....That's a response worthy of your intelligence level.

Way to come back with facts.

no - that was factual. i'll type more slowly.

Fuck off.

Awww, poor snowflake. Facts make you cry....

telling you to fuck off isnt crying but i see you are challenged by reality.

And much like other hardcore leftist...FACTS.

 

[DOTR]

I agree with your first paragraph, but have to dispute the second.
Donnie talked a good game about protecting the middle and working class, but what has he done? He pushed through a big tax cut that benefited the wealthy far more than anyone else. The invasion from the south is worse now than during Big Ears. Has he done anything about healthcare?

He doesnt have to succeed in order for the second to be true. It could be that even he was shocked to find the extent of the Deep State and ruling elites power. Trump has performed well in my opinion. I got a tax cut and i am not wealthy. But then again tax cuts will always be aimed at those who pay taxes...and 50% dont. It is logically impossible to give a tax cut to those who dont pay taxes and it is mathematically impossible to give a large tax cut to those who dont pay a large amount of taxes.
The invasion does continue. It doesnt make Trump wrong about it. It just means he has been defeated on it for now. You can bet the Democrats will use it against him in the next election. "We stopped immigration law being enforced but vote for us because Trump couldnt get the law enforced". Democrat voters are either evil or stupid...and will accept that argument. But people of good will shouldnt.
The only thing I would like to see him do on healthcare is get Obamacare repealed. He doesnt have the power of repeal but he does have the ability to influence court cases which he has done entirely to my liking. He led the effort to repeal the penalties for not having insurance (that alone equating to a tax cut for millions of the poor) and now we find in that a method of getting rid of the whole law. Trump has thrown the resources of the Justice Department behind it.

"When the case first started, the Department of Justice originally said that the courts should leave some provisions of Obamacare in effect like expanding Medicaid and creating health insurance marketplaces. But Trump ordered the agency to change course in March. In a legal brief to the Fifth Circuit, the DOJ said that the government agreed the ACA should be struck down."

If not this time then next time. If Trump gets a second term I expect we will finally get rid of that travesty. But the effort is obviously being made.

 

[DOTR]

And yet they interfered in our elective process to help HIM...not her...get elected

No, that's Don the Con's MO. He lies more than anyone. He's up in the tens of thousands. From little stupid ones like whether it fucking rained at his inauguration to really big ones like whether he paid hush money to a porn star or that his campaign had dozens of undisclosed meetings with Russians tied to Putin.

Apparently you two didn’t listen to Mueller’s testimony. Or maybe you have chosen to believe propaganda. Sad really.

WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!

Mueller: Russian Officials ‘Appeared Not to Have Pre-existing Contacts’ With Trump Campaign
Mueller: Russian Officials ‘Appeared Not to Have Pre-existing Contacts’ With Trump Campaign

Putin didn't have Don s phone number or did not want to use the unsecured phone of Trump' s as a part of the conversation? The Russians seem to know enough to contact Hope Hicks, to reach him... And somehow got her phone number?


Plus, from your article, one itty bitty line of it, among the right wing slanted opinion piece...

There were plenty of contacts between the Russian operatives and the Trump campaign detailed in the Mueller report.

Elsewhere in the report, Mueller details a “series of contacts between Trump campaign officials and individuals with ties to the Russian government.”

yet not a one of them did mueller determine to be worth pursuing.

hopes n dreams. all the left has in their hate and they won't let it go.

He was unable to pursue them. Given they are Russian nationals, there was no way for Mueller to pursue the information. He also was unable to find out what happened to the information that Manafort gave to a business associate with ties to Russian Intelligence. That gave the Russians a roadmap for their social media ads.

Mueller got it right. The Trump campaign knew the Russians wanted to help them and made it easy for them to do so.

Oh bull fucking shit. You didn't get what you emotionally counted on and are diverting the pain of losing to behind a vague lie you choose to believe.

And we got to watch new anchors cry on TV because their President is NOT a Russian agent.

 

[Lesh]

yet not a one of them did mueller determine to be worth pursuing.

hopes n dreams. all the left has in their hate and they won't let it go.

He was unable to pursue them. Given they are Russian nationals, there was no way for Mueller to pursue the information. He also was unable to find out what happened to the information that Manafort gave to a business associate with ties to Russian Intelligence. That gave the Russians a roadmap for their social media ads.

Mueller got it right. The Trump campaign knew the Russians wanted to help them and made it easy for them to do so.

Oh bull fucking shit. You didn't get what you emotionally counted on and are diverting the pain of losing to behind a vague lie you choose to believe.

No, that’s true shit. The Russians gave help. Trump solicited that help, took that help and absolutely benefited from that help.

The intelligence agencies investigating the interference are not the bad guys.

Sure would be nice if you could provide the slightest bit of evidence. So far only the shrilary campaign provably colluded.

The Mueller report details it.

1. Trump was receptive to a Campaign national security adviser’s (George Papadopoulos) pursuit of a back channel to Putin.

2. Kremlin operatives provided the Campaign a preview of the Russian plan to distribute stolen emails.

3. The Trump Campaign chairman and deputy chairman (Paul Manafort and Rick Gates) knowingly shared internal polling data and information on battleground states with a Russian spy; and the Campaign chairman worked with the Russian spy on a pro-Russia “peace” plan for Ukraine.

4. The Trump Campaign chairman periodically shared internal polling data with the Russian spy with the expectation it would be shared with Putin-linked oligarch, Oleg Deripaska.

5. Trump Campaign chairman Manafort expected Trump’s winning the presidency would mean Deripaska would want to use Manafort to advance Deripaska’s interests in the United States and elsewhere.

6. Trump Tower meeting: (1) On receiving an email offering derogatory information on Clinton coming from a Russian government official, Donald Trump Jr. “appears to have accepted that offer;” (2) members of the Campaign discussed the Trump Tower meeting beforehand; (3) Donald Trump Jr. told the Russians during the meeting that Trump could revisit the issue of the Magnitsky Act if elected.

7. A Trump Campaign official told the Special Counsel he “felt obliged to object” to a GOP Platform change on Ukraine because it contradicted Trump’s wishes; however, the investigation did not establish that Gordon was directed by Trump.

8. Russian military hackers may have followed Trump’s July 27, 2016 public statement “Russia if you’re listening …” within hours by targeting Clinton’s personal office for the first time.

9. Trump requested campaign affiliates to get Clinton’s emails, which resulted in an individual apparently acting in coordination with the Campaign claiming to have successfully contacted Russian hackers.

10. The Trump Campaign—and Trump personally—appeared to have advanced knowledge of future WikiLeaks releases.

11. The Trump Campaign coordinated campaign-related public communications based on future WikiLeaks releases.

12. Michael Cohen, on behalf of the Trump Organization, brokered a secret deal for a Trump Tower Moscow project directly involving Putin’s inner circle, at least until June 2016.

13. During the presidential transition, Jared Kushner and Eric Prince engaged in secret back channel communications with Russian agents. (1) Kushner suggested to the Russian Ambassador that they use a secure communication line from within the Russian Embassy to speak with Russian Generals; and (2) Prince and Kushner’s friend Rick Gerson conducted secret back channel meetings with a Putin agent to develop a plan for U.S.-Russian relations.

14. During the presidential transition, in coordination with other members of the Transition Team, Michael Flynn spoke with the Russian Ambassador to prevent a tit for tat Russian response to the Obama administration’s imposition of sanctions for election interference; the Russians agreed not to retaliate saying they wanted a good relationship with the incoming administration.​

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Oh bull fucking shit. You didn't get what you emotionally counted on and are diverting the pain of losing to behind a vague lie you choose to believe.

No, that’s true shit. The Russians gave help. Trump solicited that help, took that help and absolutely benefited from that help.

The intelligence agencies investigating the interference are not the bad guys.

Fuck off.

Well....That's a response worthy of your intelligence level.

Way to come back with facts.

no - that was factual. i'll type more slowly.

Fuck off.

Awww, poor snowflake. Facts make you cry....

Oy Vey but your hatred of the goy runs deep.