What The Left Would Have Us Surrender?

[ZackB]

Is there a point to your recitation of fifth grade civics, you lobotomized zombie fucktard?

You try soooo hard to hang with the big boys...and girls...but, clearly, you lack ability.

This is yet one more of your 'Oooo....let me in' posts.....with no substance.

The OP makes salient and specific points......you don't.



Here, in a form that you may actually understand: The wheel's spinning, but the hamster's dead.

I have yet to find a "big boy" or "big girl" here in terms of intellect. As I have told you before, the ability to use the copy-and-paste function is not indicative of intelligence. Your op makes no salient points. Rather, the authors of the quotes you copy-and-paste make salient points. You just state an opinion here and there.

Moreover, your "points" are usually on a fifth grade level. You dress up your childish "points" by copy-and-pasting a bunch of cherry picked quotes that you find on the Internet. There is nothing impressive or intellectual about that. You do not even bother to craft your "points" into a cogent argument. Instead, you number your "points" and then shit them out in aphoristic diarrhea that makes a grocery list look like the prose of Hemingway by comparison.

You, PC, are a fraud. You do a disservice to conservatism.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The nation is still sovereign if it agrees to binding treaties.

Is that why the UN is currently dictating when and how we go to war instead of our Congress?

Where is the UN sending US troops?

 

[Davros]

If I may, I would l would like to summarize PoliticalChic's post for the marxists that are unable to read and comprehend:
The leftists would like us to give up our freedom, liberty, property rights, and immediately surrender to an increasing authoritarian government.

What's,the limit to the rights of a sovereign citizen? Should he be allowed to ignore laws against murder if he chooses? No citizen can be allowed to be truly sovereign in a nation of laws.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

The nation is still sovereign if it agrees to binding treaties.

Is that why the UN is currently dictating when and how we go to war instead of our Congress?

Where is the UN sending US troops?

lIbya, syria, egypt, .........arab spring......where have you been?

 

[Davros]

The nation is still sovereign if it agrees to binding treaties.

Is that why the UN is currently dictating when and how we go to war instead of our Congress?

When has that happened?

 

[ZackB]

Our independence.


1. That applies both to our individual independence to the mandates of a government that orders collectivism....
....and our national independence, known as sovereignty.



2. Progressives, Liberals, statists have always opposed the freedom and individualism, principles on which this nation was founded. It was the socialist John Dewey who openly promoted the idea of stealing the liberal label, and applying it to the Socialist Party, giving us the folks who claim 'Liberalism' today.

Dewey, in his book Individualism Old and New argued that liberal individualism had in fact disappeared and been replaced by state capitalism and that collectivism.

a. “Once [WWI] is on, the conviction spreads that individual thought is helpless, that the only way one can count is as a cog in the great wheel. There is no good holding back. We are told to dry our unnoticed and ineffective tears and plunge into the great work.”
From a Randolph Bourne essay published in June 1917, “The War and the Intellectuals.”


b. Dewey reveled in the thought that the war might force Americans to “give up much of our economic freedom…we shall have to lay by our good natured individualism and march in step.”
Taking liberties

"....to lay by our good natured individualism and march in step.” And that is the very best definition of 'collectivization.'





3. On a national level, independence is called sovereignty.

" Sovereignty is a simple idea: the United States is an independent nation,.... The Founding Fathers understood that if America does not have sovereignty, it does not have independence. If a foreign power can tell America “what we shall do, and what we shall not do,” George Washington once wrote to Alexander Hamilton, “we have Independence yet to seek, and have contended hitherto for very little.”

The Declaration of Independence tells us why sovereignty mattered to America’s Founders.

When America declared its independence in 1776, the Declaration described Americans as “one people” who had the right “to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them.” Why Does Sovereignty Matter to America?



4. Which of the 'shameful six' is based on personal independence, or on the sovereignty of our nation?
Communism, Socialism, Liberalism, Fascism, Nazism, or Progressivism?

That's right....none of them.

You are such a well informed and articulate writer, PoliticalChic. It is always a pleasure to read your threads!

Ha ha ha!!! When I read your post I imagine hearing you speak those words with the disjointed slur of a Down's Syndrome patient! Hilarious!

 

[Davros]

The nation is still sovereign if it agrees to binding treaties.

Is that why the UN is currently dictating when and how we go to war instead of our Congress?

Where is the UN sending US troops?

lIbya, syria, egypt, .........arab spring......where have you been?

The UN forced the US to go to war in those places?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Our independence.


1. That applies both to our individual independence to the mandates of a government that orders collectivism....
....and our national independence, known as sovereignty.



2. Progressives, Liberals, statists have always opposed the freedom and individualism, principles on which this nation was founded. It was the socialist John Dewey who openly promoted the idea of stealing the liberal label, and applying it to the Socialist Party, giving us the folks who claim 'Liberalism' today.

Dewey, in his book Individualism Old and New argued that liberal individualism had in fact disappeared and been replaced by state capitalism and that collectivism.

a. “Once [WWI] is on, the conviction spreads that individual thought is helpless, that the only way one can count is as a cog in the great wheel. There is no good holding back. We are told to dry our unnoticed and ineffective tears and plunge into the great work.”
From a Randolph Bourne essay published in June 1917, “The War and the Intellectuals.”


b. Dewey reveled in the thought that the war might force Americans to “give up much of our economic freedom…we shall have to lay by our good natured individualism and march in step.”
Taking liberties

"....to lay by our good natured individualism and march in step.” And that is the very best definition of 'collectivization.'





3. On a national level, independence is called sovereignty.

" Sovereignty is a simple idea: the United States is an independent nation,.... The Founding Fathers understood that if America does not have sovereignty, it does not have independence. If a foreign power can tell America “what we shall do, and what we shall not do,” George Washington once wrote to Alexander Hamilton, “we have Independence yet to seek, and have contended hitherto for very little.”

The Declaration of Independence tells us why sovereignty mattered to America’s Founders.

When America declared its independence in 1776, the Declaration described Americans as “one people” who had the right “to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them.” Why Does Sovereignty Matter to America?



4. Which of the 'shameful six' is based on personal independence, or on the sovereignty of our nation?
Communism, Socialism, Liberalism, Fascism, Nazism, or Progressivism?

That's right....none of them.

You are such a well informed and articulate writer, PoliticalChic. It is always a pleasure to read your threads!

It's the best cut-n-paste you've ever seen?

'cut-n-paste' refers to the manner facts are presented.

This post indicates that you have no dispute with the facts themselves.

You have served a valuable purpose.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Is there a point to your recitation of fifth grade civics, you lobotomized zombie fucktard?

You try soooo hard to hang with the big boys...and girls...but, clearly, you lack ability.

This is yet one more of your 'Oooo....let me in' posts.....with no substance.

The OP makes salient and specific points......you don't.



Here, in a form that you may actually understand: The wheel's spinning, but the hamster's dead.

I have yet to find a "big boy" or "big girl" here in terms of intellect. As I have told you before, the ability to use the copy-and-paste function is not indicative of intelligence. Your op makes no salient points. Rather, the authors of the quotes you copy-and-paste make salient points. You just state an opinion here and there.

Moreover, your "points" are usually on a fifth grade level. You dress up your childish "points" by copy-and-pasting a bunch of cherry picked quotes that you find on the Internet. There is nothing impressive or intellectual about that. You do not even bother to craft your "points" into a cogent argument. Instead, you number your "points" and then shit them out in aphoristic diarrhea that makes a grocery list look like the prose of Hemingway by comparison.

You, PC, are a fraud. You do a disservice to conservatism.

She steadfastly refuses to state her personal opinion. And what's funnier, if you assume her opinion is based on the material she posts, that she presumably agrees with (why post it if you don't?)

then she demands you quote her giving that opinion in her own words.

She's ill.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

The nation is still sovereign if it agrees to binding treaties.

Is that why the UN is currently dictating when and how we go to war instead of our Congress?

When has that happened?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Our independence.


1. That applies both to our individual independence to the mandates of a government that orders collectivism....
....and our national independence, known as sovereignty.



2. Progressives, Liberals, statists have always opposed the freedom and individualism, principles on which this nation was founded. It was the socialist John Dewey who openly promoted the idea of stealing the liberal label, and applying it to the Socialist Party, giving us the folks who claim 'Liberalism' today.

Dewey, in his book Individualism Old and New argued that liberal individualism had in fact disappeared and been replaced by state capitalism and that collectivism.

a. “Once [WWI] is on, the conviction spreads that individual thought is helpless, that the only way one can count is as a cog in the great wheel. There is no good holding back. We are told to dry our unnoticed and ineffective tears and plunge into the great work.”
From a Randolph Bourne essay published in June 1917, “The War and the Intellectuals.”


b. Dewey reveled in the thought that the war might force Americans to “give up much of our economic freedom…we shall have to lay by our good natured individualism and march in step.”
Taking liberties

"....to lay by our good natured individualism and march in step.” And that is the very best definition of 'collectivization.'





3. On a national level, independence is called sovereignty.

" Sovereignty is a simple idea: the United States is an independent nation,.... The Founding Fathers understood that if America does not have sovereignty, it does not have independence. If a foreign power can tell America “what we shall do, and what we shall not do,” George Washington once wrote to Alexander Hamilton, “we have Independence yet to seek, and have contended hitherto for very little.”

The Declaration of Independence tells us why sovereignty mattered to America’s Founders.

When America declared its independence in 1776, the Declaration described Americans as “one people” who had the right “to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them.” Why Does Sovereignty Matter to America?



4. Which of the 'shameful six' is based on personal independence, or on the sovereignty of our nation?
Communism, Socialism, Liberalism, Fascism, Nazism, or Progressivism?

That's right....none of them.

You are such a well informed and articulate writer, PoliticalChic. It is always a pleasure to read your threads!

It's the best cut-n-paste you've ever seen?

'cut-n-paste' refers to the manner facts are presented.

This post indicates that you have no dispute with the facts themselves.

You have served a valuable purpose.

You keep equating Liberalism with Nazism.

I keep asking you then to prove that Joe Biden, who is clearly a Liberal, is a Nazi.

You can't. Therefore I have disproven that portion of your rant.

 

[ZackB]

The nation is still sovereign if it agrees to binding treaties.

Is that why the UN is currently dictating when and how we go to war instead of our Congress?

That is not happening.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The nation is still sovereign if it agrees to binding treaties.

Is that why the UN is currently dictating when and how we go to war instead of our Congress?

Where is the UN sending US troops?

lIbya, syria, egypt, .........arab spring......where have you been?

The UN forced the US to go to war in those places?

Hmmm.....let's examine the United Nations:


5. It was the 32nd President who skillfully used an economic crisis to move America from one based on individualism, free markets and limited constitutional governance, into the camp of the 'shameful six,' Communism, Socialism, Liberalism, Fascism, Nazism, or Progressivism.


Roosevelt's filial bond with Joseph Stalin not only made certain that Soviet Communism survived and thrived...but that it advanced international socialism....which is what communism is...after the war.

It was done under the name United Nations.


"A young American diplomat was the leading force in the designing of the United Nations. He was secretary of the Dumbarten Oaks Conversations from August to October of 1944 where most of the preliminary planning for the U.N. was done.


He was Roosevelt's right-hand man in February of 1945 at Yalta where the postwar boundaries of Europe were drawn (Roosevelt was a dying man at the time. His death came only ten weeks later).


At Yalta it was agreed that the Soviet Union would have three votes (one each for Russia, Ukraine, and Byelorussia) in the U.N. General Assembly, even though the United States had only one. At Yalta much of Europe was placed under the iron heel of communist rule. At Yalta, Churchill, Roosevelt, and Stalin appointed this young diplomatic shining star to be the first Secretary-general of the U.N. for the founding conference held in San Francisco,April/June of 1945.


All of this seemed well and good until three years later. Alger Hiss was exposed as a communist spy...."

What The U.N. Doesn't Want You To Know

Sanity for Superheroes: What The U.N. Doesn't Want You To Know

a. "[Alger] Hiss was appointed acting secretary-general of the U.N. founding conference and was involved in staffing the U.N. by selecting people for employment in the world body. “About fifty showed up as permanent employees and a couple of hundred in part-time assignments,” Shelton says of Hiss’s efforts." “Alger Hiss Day” a Reminder of U.N.’s Anti-Americanism

 

[ZackB]

Our independence.


1. That applies both to our individual independence to the mandates of a government that orders collectivism....
....and our national independence, known as sovereignty.



2. Progressives, Liberals, statists have always opposed the freedom and individualism, principles on which this nation was founded. It was the socialist John Dewey who openly promoted the idea of stealing the liberal label, and applying it to the Socialist Party, giving us the folks who claim 'Liberalism' today.

Dewey, in his book Individualism Old and New argued that liberal individualism had in fact disappeared and been replaced by state capitalism and that collectivism.

a. “Once [WWI] is on, the conviction spreads that individual thought is helpless, that the only way one can count is as a cog in the great wheel. There is no good holding back. We are told to dry our unnoticed and ineffective tears and plunge into the great work.”
From a Randolph Bourne essay published in June 1917, “The War and the Intellectuals.”


b. Dewey reveled in the thought that the war might force Americans to “give up much of our economic freedom…we shall have to lay by our good natured individualism and march in step.”
Taking liberties

"....to lay by our good natured individualism and march in step.” And that is the very best definition of 'collectivization.'





3. On a national level, independence is called sovereignty.

" Sovereignty is a simple idea: the United States is an independent nation,.... The Founding Fathers understood that if America does not have sovereignty, it does not have independence. If a foreign power can tell America “what we shall do, and what we shall not do,” George Washington once wrote to Alexander Hamilton, “we have Independence yet to seek, and have contended hitherto for very little.”

The Declaration of Independence tells us why sovereignty mattered to America’s Founders.

When America declared its independence in 1776, the Declaration described Americans as “one people” who had the right “to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them.” Why Does Sovereignty Matter to America?



4. Which of the 'shameful six' is based on personal independence, or on the sovereignty of our nation?
Communism, Socialism, Liberalism, Fascism, Nazism, or Progressivism?

That's right....none of them.

You are such a well informed and articulate writer, PoliticalChic. It is always a pleasure to read your threads!

It's the best cut-n-paste you've ever seen?

'cut-n-paste' refers to the manner facts are presented.

This post indicates that you have no dispute with the facts themselves.

You have served a valuable purpose.

Cut and paste means that you did not originate the content, you ditzy twit.

 

[PoliticalChic]

If I may, I would l would like to summarize PoliticalChic's post for the marxists that are unable to read and comprehend:
The leftists would like us to give up our freedom, liberty, property rights, and immediately surrender to an increasing authoritarian government.

Thank you.
Succinct is not one of my characteristics.

 

[ZackB]

Is there a point to your recitation of fifth grade civics, you lobotomized zombie fucktard?

You try soooo hard to hang with the big boys...and girls...but, clearly, you lack ability.

This is yet one more of your 'Oooo....let me in' posts.....with no substance.

The OP makes salient and specific points......you don't.



Here, in a form that you may actually understand: The wheel's spinning, but the hamster's dead.

I have yet to find a "big boy" or "big girl" here in terms of intellect. As I have told you before, the ability to use the copy-and-paste function is not indicative of intelligence. Your op makes no salient points. Rather, the authors of the quotes you copy-and-paste make salient points. You just state an opinion here and there.

Moreover, your "points" are usually on a fifth grade level. You dress up your childish "points" by copy-and-pasting a bunch of cherry picked quotes that you find on the Internet. There is nothing impressive or intellectual about that. You do not even bother to craft your "points" into a cogent argument. Instead, you number your "points" and then shit them out in aphoristic diarrhea that makes a grocery list look like the prose of Hemingway by comparison.

You, PC, are a fraud. You do a disservice to conservatism.

She steadfastly refuses to state her personal opinion. And what's funnier, if you assume her opinion is based on the material she posts, that she presumably agrees with (why post it if you don't?)

then she demands you quote her giving that opinion in her own words.

She's ill.

Agreed. PC is one screwed up individual. As a conservative myself people like PC embarrass the piss out of me.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Our independence.


1. That applies both to our individual independence to the mandates of a government that orders collectivism....
....and our national independence, known as sovereignty.



2. Progressives, Liberals, statists have always opposed the freedom and individualism, principles on which this nation was founded. It was the socialist John Dewey who openly promoted the idea of stealing the liberal label, and applying it to the Socialist Party, giving us the folks who claim 'Liberalism' today.

Dewey, in his book Individualism Old and New argued that liberal individualism had in fact disappeared and been replaced by state capitalism and that collectivism.

a. “Once [WWI] is on, the conviction spreads that individual thought is helpless, that the only way one can count is as a cog in the great wheel. There is no good holding back. We are told to dry our unnoticed and ineffective tears and plunge into the great work.”
From a Randolph Bourne essay published in June 1917, “The War and the Intellectuals.”


b. Dewey reveled in the thought that the war might force Americans to “give up much of our economic freedom…we shall have to lay by our good natured individualism and march in step.”
Taking liberties

"....to lay by our good natured individualism and march in step.” And that is the very best definition of 'collectivization.'





3. On a national level, independence is called sovereignty.

" Sovereignty is a simple idea: the United States is an independent nation,.... The Founding Fathers understood that if America does not have sovereignty, it does not have independence. If a foreign power can tell America “what we shall do, and what we shall not do,” George Washington once wrote to Alexander Hamilton, “we have Independence yet to seek, and have contended hitherto for very little.”

The Declaration of Independence tells us why sovereignty mattered to America’s Founders.

When America declared its independence in 1776, the Declaration described Americans as “one people” who had the right “to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them.” Why Does Sovereignty Matter to America?



4. Which of the 'shameful six' is based on personal independence, or on the sovereignty of our nation?
Communism, Socialism, Liberalism, Fascism, Nazism, or Progressivism?

That's right....none of them.

You are such a well informed and articulate writer, PoliticalChic. It is always a pleasure to read your threads!

It's the best cut-n-paste you've ever seen?

'cut-n-paste' refers to the manner facts are presented.

This post indicates that you have no dispute with the facts themselves.

You have served a valuable purpose.

Cut and paste means that you did not originate the content, you ditzy twit.

See....now I'm gonna have to put you in your place again!

"Cut and paste means that you did not originate the content, you ditzy twit."

I hear that a lot from those who don't have the background and education that I have, and, hence, are unable to draw on the vast compendium of knowledge, and array of sources, that I have.

That's your real gripe.....isn't it.


Each day I provide undeniable facts that lead to an irrefutable conclusion. Hence, an education that government school and the media hide.

You should take notes.

 

[SmokeALib]

If I may, I would l would like to summarize PoliticalChic's post for the marxists that are unable to read and comprehend:
The leftists would like us to give up our freedom, liberty, property rights, and immediately surrender to an increasing authoritarian government.

Thank you.
Succinct is not one of my characteristics.

You're welcome. Arguing with these marxist traitors is like blowing your nose without a kleenex - it relieves some pressure, but makes a helluva mess.

 

[ZackB]

The nation is still sovereign if it agrees to binding treaties.

Is that why the UN is currently dictating when and how we go to war instead of our Congress?

Where is the UN sending US troops?

lIbya, syria, egypt, .........arab spring......where have you been?

The UN forced the US to go to war in those places?

Hmmm.....let's examine the United Nations:


5. It was the 32nd President who skillfully used an economic crisis to move America from one based on individualism, free markets and limited constitutional governance, into the camp of the 'shameful six,' Communism, Socialism, Liberalism, Fascism, Nazism, or Progressivism.


Roosevelt's filial bond with Joseph Stalin not only made certain that Soviet Communism survived and thrived...but that it advanced international socialism....which is what communism is...after the war.

It was done under the name United Nations.


"A young American diplomat was the leading force in the designing of the United Nations. He was secretary of the Dumbarten Oaks Conversations from August to October of 1944 where most of the preliminary planning for the U.N. was done.


He was Roosevelt's right-hand man in February of 1945 at Yalta where the postwar boundaries of Europe were drawn (Roosevelt was a dying man at the time. His death came only ten weeks later).


At Yalta it was agreed that the Soviet Union would have three votes (one each for Russia, Ukraine, and Byelorussia) in the U.N. General Assembly, even though the United States had only one. At Yalta much of Europe was placed under the iron heel of communist rule. At Yalta, Churchill, Roosevelt, and Stalin appointed this young diplomatic shining star to be the first Secretary-general of the U.N. for the founding conference held in San Francisco,April/June of 1945.


All of this seemed well and good until three years later. Alger Hiss was exposed as a communist spy...."

What The U.N. Doesn't Want You To Know

Sanity for Superheroes: What The U.N. Doesn't Want You To Know

a. "[Alger] Hiss was appointed acting secretary-general of the U.N. founding conference and was involved in staffing the U.N. by selecting people for employment in the world body. “About fifty showed up as permanent employees and a couple of hundred in part-time assignments,” Shelton says of Hiss’s efforts." “Alger Hiss Day” a Reminder of U.N.’s Anti-Americanism

That is completely off topic, PC. The matter at hand concerning the UN is the ridiculous assertion by one of your dimwitted admirers that the UN has the authority to order US troop movement, notwithstanding US sovereignty and the reservations in our UN membership that legally make it impermissible for such to occur.

It takes a special kind of idiot to plunge balls deep into subject matter so foreign to them. PC, you are a special kind of idiot.

 

[Davros]

The nation is still sovereign if it agrees to binding treaties.

Is that why the UN is currently dictating when and how we go to war instead of our Congress?

Where is the UN sending US troops?

lIbya, syria, egypt, .........arab spring......where have you been?

The UN forced the US to go to war in those places?

Hmmm.....let's examine the United Nations:


5. It was the 32nd President who skillfully used an economic crisis to move America from one based on individualism, free markets and limited constitutional governance, into the camp of the 'shameful six,' Communism, Socialism, Liberalism, Fascism, Nazism, or Progressivism.


Roosevelt's filial bond with Joseph Stalin not only made certain that Soviet Communism survived and thrived...but that it advanced international socialism....which is what communism is...after the war.

It was done under the name United Nations.


"A young American diplomat was the leading force in the designing of the United Nations. He was secretary of the Dumbarten Oaks Conversations from August to October of 1944 where most of the preliminary planning for the U.N. was done.


He was Roosevelt's right-hand man in February of 1945 at Yalta where the postwar boundaries of Europe were drawn (Roosevelt was a dying man at the time. His death came only ten weeks later).


At Yalta it was agreed that the Soviet Union would have three votes (one each for Russia, Ukraine, and Byelorussia) in the U.N. General Assembly, even though the United States had only one. At Yalta much of Europe was placed under the iron heel of communist rule. At Yalta, Churchill, Roosevelt, and Stalin appointed this young diplomatic shining star to be the first Secretary-general of the U.N. for the founding conference held in San Francisco,April/June of 1945.


All of this seemed well and good until three years later. Alger Hiss was exposed as a communist spy...."

What The U.N. Doesn't Want You To Know

Sanity for Superheroes: What The U.N. Doesn't Want You To Know

a. "[Alger] Hiss was appointed acting secretary-general of the U.N. founding conference and was involved in staffing the U.N. by selecting people for employment in the world body. “About fifty showed up as permanent employees and a couple of hundred in part-time assignments,” Shelton says of Hiss’s efforts." “Alger Hiss Day” a Reminder of U.N.’s Anti-Americanism

So far the UN has helped prevent World War 3 for 70 years. That's what it was designed to do.