What the science says

[IanC]

The stupidity of jc is truly staggering. If he spent one tenth of his time trying to understand some of the basics, instead of posting up an endless stream of stupid questions, he would be much further ahead.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

now show me one with CO2. Good job.

IR from CO2 is somehow different? How exactly?

exactly, so if other materials heat at different temperatures from IR so to will CO2.

so if other materials heat at different temperatures from IR so to will CO2

Different materials absorb and heat up differently.
Photons heat materials that absorb them.
Photons are not smart.

Congrats, you now understand much more than SSDD.

I trust he has this knowledge and like me wonders if CO2 has the heating capability of asphalt or bricks. What we are so amazed about, is not one scientist has tested the actual temperature of CO2 absorbed. Why? people have tested other materials. So how warm is one PPM of CO2 when it absorbs IR?

I trust he has this knowledge

Based on his posting history, he does not.

and like me wonders if CO2 has the heating capability of asphalt or bricks

The capability to heat asphalt or bricks? Or does it emit exactly like asphalt or bricks?

What we are so amazed about, is not one scientist has tested the actual temperature of CO2 absorbed.

Unclear what you're saying here.

So how warm is one PPM of CO2 when it absorbs IR?

Nonsensical question.

So how warm is one PPM of CO2 when it absorbs IR?

Nonsensical question

And there you have it. No knowledge of how warmer CO2 can make its surrounding.

The capability to heat asphalt or bricks? Or does it emit exactly like asphalt or bricks?
does its absorption capabilities equal asphalt or bricks.
exactly, does it?

And there you have it.

Yes. It was nonsensical.

No knowledge of how warmer CO2 can make its surrounding.

When CO2 emits a photon, anything that photon is absorbed by will gain energy.

does its absorption capabilities equal asphalt or bricks.

Of course not. Different materials absorb and emit differently.

Here's some info on CO2.

If you have similar info on asphalt or bricks that would somehow add to the discussion, feel free to share.

 

[jc456]

exactly, so if other materials heat at different temperatures from IR so to will CO2.

so if other materials heat at different temperatures from IR so to will CO2

Different materials absorb and heat up differently.
Photons heat materials that absorb them.
Photons are not smart.

Congrats, you now understand much more than SSDD.

I trust he has this knowledge and like me wonders if CO2 has the heating capability of asphalt or bricks. What we are so amazed about, is not one scientist has tested the actual temperature of CO2 absorbed. Why? people have tested other materials. So how warm is one PPM of CO2 when it absorbs IR?

I trust he has this knowledge

Based on his posting history, he does not.

and like me wonders if CO2 has the heating capability of asphalt or bricks

The capability to heat asphalt or bricks? Or does it emit exactly like asphalt or bricks?

What we are so amazed about, is not one scientist has tested the actual temperature of CO2 absorbed.

Unclear what you're saying here.

So how warm is one PPM of CO2 when it absorbs IR?

Nonsensical question.

So how warm is one PPM of CO2 when it absorbs IR?

Nonsensical question

And there you have it. No knowledge of how warmer CO2 can make its surrounding.

The capability to heat asphalt or bricks? Or does it emit exactly like asphalt or bricks?
does its absorption capabilities equal asphalt or bricks.
exactly, does it?

And there you have it.

Yes. It was nonsensical.

No knowledge of how warmer CO2 can make its surrounding.

When CO2 emits a photon, anything that photon is absorbed by will gain energy.

does its absorption capabilities equal asphalt or bricks.

Of course not. Different materials absorb and emit differently.

Here's some info on CO2.

View attachment 86474

If you have similar info on asphalt or bricks that would somehow add to the discussion, feel free to share.

Of course not. Different materials absorb and emit differently.

yep. And still no test results of how warmer CO2 will make the surrounding air.

Yet asphalt and brick you can.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

so if other materials heat at different temperatures from IR so to will CO2

Different materials absorb and heat up differently.
Photons heat materials that absorb them.
Photons are not smart.

Congrats, you now understand much more than SSDD.

I trust he has this knowledge and like me wonders if CO2 has the heating capability of asphalt or bricks. What we are so amazed about, is not one scientist has tested the actual temperature of CO2 absorbed. Why? people have tested other materials. So how warm is one PPM of CO2 when it absorbs IR?

I trust he has this knowledge

Based on his posting history, he does not.

and like me wonders if CO2 has the heating capability of asphalt or bricks

The capability to heat asphalt or bricks? Or does it emit exactly like asphalt or bricks?

What we are so amazed about, is not one scientist has tested the actual temperature of CO2 absorbed.

Unclear what you're saying here.

So how warm is one PPM of CO2 when it absorbs IR?

Nonsensical question.

So how warm is one PPM of CO2 when it absorbs IR?

Nonsensical question

And there you have it. No knowledge of how warmer CO2 can make its surrounding.

The capability to heat asphalt or bricks? Or does it emit exactly like asphalt or bricks?
does its absorption capabilities equal asphalt or bricks.
exactly, does it?

And there you have it.

Yes. It was nonsensical.

No knowledge of how warmer CO2 can make its surrounding.

When CO2 emits a photon, anything that photon is absorbed by will gain energy.

does its absorption capabilities equal asphalt or bricks.

Of course not. Different materials absorb and emit differently.

Here's some info on CO2.

View attachment 86474

If you have similar info on asphalt or bricks that would somehow add to the discussion, feel free to share.

Of course not. Different materials absorb and emit differently.

yep. And still no test results of how warmer CO2 will make the surrounding air.

Yet asphalt and brick you can.

And still no test results of how warmer CO2 will make the surrounding air.

That is a nonsensical question.

Yet asphalt and brick you can.

Really?

How warmer asphalt and brick will make the surrounding air?

 

[jc456]

I trust he has this knowledge and like me wonders if CO2 has the heating capability of asphalt or bricks. What we are so amazed about, is not one scientist has tested the actual temperature of CO2 absorbed. Why? people have tested other materials. So how warm is one PPM of CO2 when it absorbs IR?

I trust he has this knowledge

Based on his posting history, he does not.

and like me wonders if CO2 has the heating capability of asphalt or bricks

The capability to heat asphalt or bricks? Or does it emit exactly like asphalt or bricks?

What we are so amazed about, is not one scientist has tested the actual temperature of CO2 absorbed.

Unclear what you're saying here.

So how warm is one PPM of CO2 when it absorbs IR?

Nonsensical question.

So how warm is one PPM of CO2 when it absorbs IR?

Nonsensical question

And there you have it. No knowledge of how warmer CO2 can make its surrounding.

The capability to heat asphalt or bricks? Or does it emit exactly like asphalt or bricks?
does its absorption capabilities equal asphalt or bricks.
exactly, does it?

And there you have it.

Yes. It was nonsensical.

No knowledge of how warmer CO2 can make its surrounding.

When CO2 emits a photon, anything that photon is absorbed by will gain energy.

does its absorption capabilities equal asphalt or bricks.

Of course not. Different materials absorb and emit differently.

Here's some info on CO2.

View attachment 86474

If you have similar info on asphalt or bricks that would somehow add to the discussion, feel free to share.

Of course not. Different materials absorb and emit differently.

yep. And still no test results of how warmer CO2 will make the surrounding air.

Yet asphalt and brick you can.

And still no test results of how warmer CO2 will make the surrounding air.

That is a nonsensical question.

Yet asphalt and brick you can.

Really?

How warmer asphalt and brick will make the surrounding air?[/QUOTE

Urban heat island - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"As a population center grows, it tends to expand its area and increase its average temperature. The less-used term heat island refers to any area, populated or not, which is consistently hotter than the surrounding area"

Now post up one with CO2 in it.

 

[IanC]

jc is too stupid to realize that both the brick and the CO2 are matter, and it is the photons absorbed and emitted by each that are the energy transfer.

 

[jc456]

jc is too stupid to realize that both the brick and the CO2 are matter, and it is the photons absorbed and emitted by each that are the energy transfer.

but the amount they absorb is what matters. It seems you don't understand that.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I trust he has this knowledge

Based on his posting history, he does not.

and like me wonders if CO2 has the heating capability of asphalt or bricks

The capability to heat asphalt or bricks? Or does it emit exactly like asphalt or bricks?

What we are so amazed about, is not one scientist has tested the actual temperature of CO2 absorbed.

Unclear what you're saying here.

So how warm is one PPM of CO2 when it absorbs IR?

Nonsensical question.

So how warm is one PPM of CO2 when it absorbs IR?

Nonsensical question

And there you have it. No knowledge of how warmer CO2 can make its surrounding.

The capability to heat asphalt or bricks? Or does it emit exactly like asphalt or bricks?
does its absorption capabilities equal asphalt or bricks.
exactly, does it?

And there you have it.

Yes. It was nonsensical.

No knowledge of how warmer CO2 can make its surrounding.

When CO2 emits a photon, anything that photon is absorbed by will gain energy.

does its absorption capabilities equal asphalt or bricks.

Of course not. Different materials absorb and emit differently.

Here's some info on CO2.

View attachment 86474

If you have similar info on asphalt or bricks that would somehow add to the discussion, feel free to share.

Of course not. Different materials absorb and emit differently.

yep. And still no test results of how warmer CO2 will make the surrounding air.

Yet asphalt and brick you can.

And still no test results of how warmer CO2 will make the surrounding air.

That is a nonsensical question.

Yet asphalt and brick you can.

Really?

How warmer asphalt and brick will make the surrounding air?[/QUOTE

Urban heat island - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"As a population center grows, it tends to expand its area and increase its average temperature. The less-used term heat island refers to any area, populated or not, which is consistently hotter than the surrounding area"

Now post up one with CO2 in it.

Yes, warmer. You asked "how warmer"? You didn't answer the question.

 

[jc456]

http://lasersparkpluginc.com/uploads/CO2_Absorption_Data.pdf

"The question then is, in what quantity is the atmosphere absorbing and emitting
black body radiation. The emissivity of nitrogen and oxygen gasses should be closed
to 100%, since they do not reflect IR significantly. But the larger question is how
does the quantity of black body absorption compare to the fingerprint absorption of
CO2. Actual measurements and numbers do not seem to exist. So promoters use
computer models to divide up the heat of the atmosphere between pollutants such
as CO2 and everything else. They then pull such numbers out of the hat which say
increases in CO2 levels will create a global temperature increase of about 6 deg. This
is about 20% of the 33 deg. which the atmosphere is said to contribute to the
temperature of the globe."

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

http://lasersparkpluginc.com/uploads/CO2_Absorption_Data.pdf

"The question then is, in what quantity is the atmosphere absorbing and emitting
black body radiation. The emissivity of nitrogen and oxygen gasses should be closed
to 100%, since they do not reflect IR significantly. But the larger question is how
does the quantity of black body absorption compare to the fingerprint absorption of
CO2. Actual measurements and numbers do not seem to exist. So promoters use
computer models to divide up the heat of the atmosphere between pollutants such
as CO2 and everything else. They then pull such numbers out of the hat which say
increases in CO2 levels will create a global temperature increase of about 6 deg. This
is about 20% of the 33 deg. which the atmosphere is said to contribute to the
temperature of the globe."

The emissivity of nitrogen and oxygen gasses should be closed to 100%,

Is that like "close to"?

since they do not reflect IR significantly

Reflect? LOL!

pollutants such as CO2

Pollutant?

They then pull such numbers out of the hat which say increases in CO2 levels will create a global temperature increase of about 6 deg.

Not sure what you're trying to say here.

Not sure such an amateurish link is in any way helpful.

 

[jc456]

So how warm is one PPM of CO2 when it absorbs IR?

Nonsensical question

And there you have it. No knowledge of how warmer CO2 can make its surrounding.

The capability to heat asphalt or bricks? Or does it emit exactly like asphalt or bricks?
does its absorption capabilities equal asphalt or bricks.
exactly, does it?

And there you have it.

Yes. It was nonsensical.

No knowledge of how warmer CO2 can make its surrounding.

When CO2 emits a photon, anything that photon is absorbed by will gain energy.

does its absorption capabilities equal asphalt or bricks.

Of course not. Different materials absorb and emit differently.

Here's some info on CO2.

View attachment 86474

If you have similar info on asphalt or bricks that would somehow add to the discussion, feel free to share.

Of course not. Different materials absorb and emit differently.

yep. And still no test results of how warmer CO2 will make the surrounding air.

Yet asphalt and brick you can.

And still no test results of how warmer CO2 will make the surrounding air.

That is a nonsensical question.

Yet asphalt and brick you can.

Really?

How warmer asphalt and brick will make the surrounding air?[/QUOTE

Urban heat island - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"As a population center grows, it tends to expand its area and increase its average temperature. The less-used term heat island refers to any area, populated or not, which is consistently hotter than the surrounding area"

Now post up one with CO2 in it.

Yes, warmer. You asked "how warmer"? You didn't answer the question.

I didn't ask that question

http://lasersparkpluginc.com/uploads/CO2_Absorption_Data.pdf

"The question then is, in what quantity is the atmosphere absorbing and emitting
black body radiation. The emissivity of nitrogen and oxygen gasses should be closed
to 100%, since they do not reflect IR significantly. But the larger question is how
does the quantity of black body absorption compare to the fingerprint absorption of
CO2. Actual measurements and numbers do not seem to exist. So promoters use
computer models to divide up the heat of the atmosphere between pollutants such
as CO2 and everything else. They then pull such numbers out of the hat which say
increases in CO2 levels will create a global temperature increase of about 6 deg. This
is about 20% of the 33 deg. which the atmosphere is said to contribute to the
temperature of the globe."

The emissivity of nitrogen and oxygen gasses should be closed to 100%,

Is that like "close to"?

since they do not reflect IR significantly

Reflect? LOL!

pollutants such as CO2

Pollutant?

They then pull such numbers out of the hat which say increases in CO2 levels will create a global temperature increase of about 6 deg.

Not sure what you're trying to say here.

Not sure such an amateurish link is in any way helpful.

that again, i've presented material and you have not.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And there you have it.

Yes. It was nonsensical.

No knowledge of how warmer CO2 can make its surrounding.

When CO2 emits a photon, anything that photon is absorbed by will gain energy.

does its absorption capabilities equal asphalt or bricks.

Of course not. Different materials absorb and emit differently.

Here's some info on CO2.

View attachment 86474

If you have similar info on asphalt or bricks that would somehow add to the discussion, feel free to share.

Of course not. Different materials absorb and emit differently.

yep. And still no test results of how warmer CO2 will make the surrounding air.

Yet asphalt and brick you can.

And still no test results of how warmer CO2 will make the surrounding air.

That is a nonsensical question.

Yet asphalt and brick you can.

Really?

How warmer asphalt and brick will make the surrounding air?[/QUOTE

Urban heat island - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"As a population center grows, it tends to expand its area and increase its average temperature. The less-used term heat island refers to any area, populated or not, which is consistently hotter than the surrounding area"

Now post up one with CO2 in it.

Yes, warmer. You asked "how warmer"? You didn't answer the question.

I didn't ask that question

http://lasersparkpluginc.com/uploads/CO2_Absorption_Data.pdf

"The question then is, in what quantity is the atmosphere absorbing and emitting
black body radiation. The emissivity of nitrogen and oxygen gasses should be closed
to 100%, since they do not reflect IR significantly. But the larger question is how
does the quantity of black body absorption compare to the fingerprint absorption of
CO2. Actual measurements and numbers do not seem to exist. So promoters use
computer models to divide up the heat of the atmosphere between pollutants such
as CO2 and everything else. They then pull such numbers out of the hat which say
increases in CO2 levels will create a global temperature increase of about 6 deg. This
is about 20% of the 33 deg. which the atmosphere is said to contribute to the
temperature of the globe."

The emissivity of nitrogen and oxygen gasses should be closed to 100%,

Is that like "close to"?

since they do not reflect IR significantly

Reflect? LOL!

pollutants such as CO2

Pollutant?

They then pull such numbers out of the hat which say increases in CO2 levels will create a global temperature increase of about 6 deg.

Not sure what you're trying to say here.

Not sure such an amateurish link is in any way helpful.

that again, i've presented material and you have not.

I didn't ask that question

You did, here.....
"And still no test results of how warmer CO2 will make the surrounding air.

Yet asphalt and brick you can"

i've presented material and you have not.

Yes. You presented jumbled garbage from an amateur.
What did it prove?

 

[jc456]

Of course not. Different materials absorb and emit differently.

yep. And still no test results of how warmer CO2 will make the surrounding air.

Yet asphalt and brick you can.

And still no test results of how warmer CO2 will make the surrounding air.

That is a nonsensical question.

Yet asphalt and brick you can.

Really?

How warmer asphalt and brick will make the surrounding air?[/QUOTE

Urban heat island - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"As a population center grows, it tends to expand its area and increase its average temperature. The less-used term heat island refers to any area, populated or not, which is consistently hotter than the surrounding area"

Now post up one with CO2 in it.

Yes, warmer. You asked "how warmer"? You didn't answer the question.

I didn't ask that question

http://lasersparkpluginc.com/uploads/CO2_Absorption_Data.pdf

"The question then is, in what quantity is the atmosphere absorbing and emitting
black body radiation. The emissivity of nitrogen and oxygen gasses should be closed
to 100%, since they do not reflect IR significantly. But the larger question is how
does the quantity of black body absorption compare to the fingerprint absorption of
CO2. Actual measurements and numbers do not seem to exist. So promoters use
computer models to divide up the heat of the atmosphere between pollutants such
as CO2 and everything else. They then pull such numbers out of the hat which say
increases in CO2 levels will create a global temperature increase of about 6 deg. This
is about 20% of the 33 deg. which the atmosphere is said to contribute to the
temperature of the globe."

The emissivity of nitrogen and oxygen gasses should be closed to 100%,

Is that like "close to"?

since they do not reflect IR significantly

Reflect? LOL!

pollutants such as CO2

Pollutant?

They then pull such numbers out of the hat which say increases in CO2 levels will create a global temperature increase of about 6 deg.

Not sure what you're trying to say here.

Not sure such an amateurish link is in any way helpful.

that again, i've presented material and you have not.

I didn't ask that question

You did, here.....
"And still no test results of how warmer CO2 will make the surrounding air.

Yet asphalt and brick you can"

i've presented material and you have not.

Yes. You presented jumbled garbage from an amateur.
What did it prove?

you have nothing? yep I'm going with that.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And still no test results of how warmer CO2 will make the surrounding air.

That is a nonsensical question.

Yet asphalt and brick you can.

Really?

How warmer asphalt and brick will make the surrounding air?[/QUOTE

Urban heat island - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"As a population center grows, it tends to expand its area and increase its average temperature. The less-used term heat island refers to any area, populated or not, which is consistently hotter than the surrounding area"

Now post up one with CO2 in it.

Yes, warmer. You asked "how warmer"? You didn't answer the question.

I didn't ask that question

http://lasersparkpluginc.com/uploads/CO2_Absorption_Data.pdf

"The question then is, in what quantity is the atmosphere absorbing and emitting
black body radiation. The emissivity of nitrogen and oxygen gasses should be closed
to 100%, since they do not reflect IR significantly. But the larger question is how
does the quantity of black body absorption compare to the fingerprint absorption of
CO2. Actual measurements and numbers do not seem to exist. So promoters use
computer models to divide up the heat of the atmosphere between pollutants such
as CO2 and everything else. They then pull such numbers out of the hat which say
increases in CO2 levels will create a global temperature increase of about 6 deg. This
is about 20% of the 33 deg. which the atmosphere is said to contribute to the
temperature of the globe."

The emissivity of nitrogen and oxygen gasses should be closed to 100%,

Is that like "close to"?

since they do not reflect IR significantly

Reflect? LOL!

pollutants such as CO2

Pollutant?

They then pull such numbers out of the hat which say increases in CO2 levels will create a global temperature increase of about 6 deg.

Not sure what you're trying to say here.

Not sure such an amateurish link is in any way helpful.

that again, i've presented material and you have not.

I didn't ask that question

You did, here.....
"And still no test results of how warmer CO2 will make the surrounding air.

Yet asphalt and brick you can"

i've presented material and you have not.

Yes. You presented jumbled garbage from an amateur.
What did it prove?

you have nothing? yep I'm going with that.

I'm happy to explain what this shows......

 

[jc456]

Urban heat island - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"As a population center grows, it tends to expand its area and increase its average temperature. The less-used term heat island refers to any area, populated or not, which is consistently hotter than the surrounding area"

Now post up one with CO2 in it.

Yes, warmer. You asked "how warmer"? You didn't answer the question.

I didn't ask that question

http://lasersparkpluginc.com/uploads/CO2_Absorption_Data.pdf

"The question then is, in what quantity is the atmosphere absorbing and emitting
black body radiation. The emissivity of nitrogen and oxygen gasses should be closed
to 100%, since they do not reflect IR significantly. But the larger question is how
does the quantity of black body absorption compare to the fingerprint absorption of
CO2. Actual measurements and numbers do not seem to exist. So promoters use
computer models to divide up the heat of the atmosphere between pollutants such
as CO2 and everything else. They then pull such numbers out of the hat which say
increases in CO2 levels will create a global temperature increase of about 6 deg. This
is about 20% of the 33 deg. which the atmosphere is said to contribute to the
temperature of the globe."

The emissivity of nitrogen and oxygen gasses should be closed to 100%,

Is that like "close to"?

since they do not reflect IR significantly

Reflect? LOL!

pollutants such as CO2

Pollutant?

They then pull such numbers out of the hat which say increases in CO2 levels will create a global temperature increase of about 6 deg.

Not sure what you're trying to say here.

Not sure such an amateurish link is in any way helpful.

that again, i've presented material and you have not.

I didn't ask that question

You did, here.....
"And still no test results of how warmer CO2 will make the surrounding air.

Yet asphalt and brick you can"

i've presented material and you have not.

Yes. You presented jumbled garbage from an amateur.
What did it prove?

you have nothing? yep I'm going with that.

View attachment 86495

I'm happy to explain what this shows......

it's a picture derp

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes, warmer. You asked "how warmer"? You didn't answer the question.

I didn't ask that question

The emissivity of nitrogen and oxygen gasses should be closed to 100%,

Is that like "close to"?

since they do not reflect IR significantly

Reflect? LOL!

pollutants such as CO2

Pollutant?

They then pull such numbers out of the hat which say increases in CO2 levels will create a global temperature increase of about 6 deg.

Not sure what you're trying to say here.

Not sure such an amateurish link is in any way helpful.

that again, i've presented material and you have not.

I didn't ask that question

You did, here.....
"And still no test results of how warmer CO2 will make the surrounding air.

Yet asphalt and brick you can"

i've presented material and you have not.

Yes. You presented jumbled garbage from an amateur.
What did it prove?

you have nothing? yep I'm going with that.

View attachment 86495

I'm happy to explain what this shows......

it's a picture derp

With actual useful info. Not like that hack site you linked.

 

[jc456]

I didn't ask that question
that again, i've presented material and you have not.

I didn't ask that question

You did, here.....
"And still no test results of how warmer CO2 will make the surrounding air.

Yet asphalt and brick you can"

i've presented material and you have not.

Yes. You presented jumbled garbage from an amateur.
What did it prove?

you have nothing? yep I'm going with that.

View attachment 86495

I'm happy to explain what this shows......

it's a picture derp

With actual useful info. Not like that hack site you linked.

that shows a picture,

 

[jc456]

for everyone, nice input here:

Fudge Factor.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I didn't ask that question

You did, here.....
"And still no test results of how warmer CO2 will make the surrounding air.

Yet asphalt and brick you can"

i've presented material and you have not.

Yes. You presented jumbled garbage from an amateur.
What did it prove?

you have nothing? yep I'm going with that.

View attachment 86495

I'm happy to explain what this shows......

it's a picture derp

With actual useful info. Not like that hack site you linked.

that shows a picture,

Yes, it seems that even pictures are too complicated for you to understand.

 

[jc456]

you have nothing? yep I'm going with that.

View attachment 86495

I'm happy to explain what this shows......

it's a picture derp

With actual useful info. Not like that hack site you linked.

that shows a picture,

Yes, it seems that even pictures are too complicated for you to understand.

because a picture without an explanation is just a picture.